Real-World Trade-In Values

jpp75

@qbrozen Wondered if I could get an update on my Touareg. 2016 Lux V6, 14,000 miles, Canyon Gray over black, located in Southeastern NC. It has the extra safety feature package, which includes the Adaptive Cruise.

Thanks!

xwesx

tommister2 said:

steine13 said:

I think I've found my winter beater -- time to park the missus' beloved Sienna in the garage.

Whaddayathink?
http://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/5929501465.html

Hey, looks like a winner to me!

Yep, gotta agree! It's a pretty basic car, but it really does look like it is in nice shape (for year and miles)! Still, on the topic of "winter beater," seeing that price tag makes me grin when I think about how much I paid for my 2008 Forester.

qbrozen

jpp5862 said:

@qbrozen Wondered if I could get an update on my Touareg. 2016 Lux V6, 14,000 miles, Canyon Gray over black, located in Southeastern NC. It has the extra safety feature package, which includes the Adaptive Cruise.

Thanks!

37'ish

henryn

We got early dismissal today, 2:30, so I set out to do a little car shopping. My Passat TDI goes back January 17th, so…

I stopped by to look at a 2011 Infiniti EX after @qbrozen talked about and then bought one. I didn’t fit (headroom), but they had a really nice FX35. Low miles, one local owner, dealer serviced, new tires.

2012 Infiniti FX35
Houston, TX
32k miles
Dark brown exterior, lighter interior

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=77021&modelCode1=FX35&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=77021&showcaseOwnerId=70009&startYear=1981&listingType=used&endYear=2017&modelCodeList=FX35&makeCodeList=INFIN&modelCode1=FX35&mmt=%5BINFIN%5BFX35%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingTypes=used&showcaseListingId=446152523&makeCode1=INFIN&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=25&showcaseOwnerId=70009&listingTypes=used&showcaseListingId=446152523&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&makeCode1=INFIN&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&searchRadius=25&listingId=444613411&makeCode1=INFIN&modelCode1=FX35

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?make=INFIN&vin=-7|69|27|-11|84|95|31|29|109|98|-105|-57|81|5|-94|43|115|-25|23|-8|-105|91|52|-122|&dealer_id=585088&car_id=444613411&partner=ATD_W

I like this car, but I’m not too crazy about paying $26k for a 5 year old car.

I then stopped down the street and drove a 2011 Hyundai Genesis with the 4.6L v8.

2011 Hyundai Genesis, black noir pearl, 66k miles, the interior was a light color (beige?).

This is another one owner local car. There are no pictures on the web site for this, but it is very clean, except for the wheels. The chrome is peeling on all 4 wheels, they are ugly as homemade sin.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=77021&showcaseOwnerId=56940910&startYear=2011&numRecords=25&endYear=2015&modelCode1=GENESIS&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=77021&showcaseOwnerId=56940910&startYear=2011&listingType=used&endYear=2015&modelCodeList=GENESIS&makeCodeList=HYUND&modelCode1=GENESIS&mmt=%5BHYUND%5BGENESIS%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingTypes=used%2Ccertified&showcaseListingId=443253422&makeCode1=HYUND&maxPrice=28000&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=25&listingTypes=used,certified&showcaseListingId=443253422&makeCode1=HYUND&maxPrice=28000&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=25&listingId=446042066&makeCode1=HYUND&modelCode1=GENESIS


https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?make=HYUND&vin=-125|73|-128|9|123|-69|-104|86|-48|-61|63|-109|66|-80|-32|101|-95|54|98|-52|-112|72|-60|41|&dealer_id=100028052&car_id=446042066&partner=ATD_W

This dealer told me the average price on Mannheim auctions for this car was $11,100. I'm wondering if he was truthful?

steine13

xwesx said:

tommister2 said:

steine13 said:

Yep, gotta agree! It's a pretty basic car, but it really does look like it is in nice shape (for year and miles)! Still, on the topic of "winter beater," seeing that price tag makes me grin when I think about how much I paid for my 2008 Forester.

Ya -- $3,500 a year-and-a-half ago. That was a great deal. Around here, Subarus are a cult.

I went and drove the Focus home and put it on ramps.
It was a good re-introduction to ten year old cars.
Loose-ish suspension, one brake is making noises, strong engine, decent transmission -- this is an almost 20 year old design that was built beyond it's fresh-by date, and as such a great candidate for a cheap running-around car. It's not been hit that I could tell, rust is only evident from underneath a bit, and it's not been smoked in. Four new tires, but they're cheap Goodyears. Somebody made a token effort at keeping it up.

Engine is clean, oil has definitely been changed on schedule, but it's almost a quart low. Forgot to check the window sticker to see how long it's been.

I like its simplicity, but when I mentioned to the wife how it would save her van from another winter, wouldn't that be a good idea? -- she said Yes. Good idea. Another good idea, she said, would be to buy the new Grand Caravan I've been talking about.
So at least we're converging on something here.

Shifty said it a couple pages back: People are hungry for sub-$3k cars. Given that it has needs coming up, I would not want to spend more than $3 on this thing. OTOH, having spent that, it's hard to see how it wouldn't be decent transportation for a half decade with some judicious and inexpensive maintenance.
I'll probably just take over the old Sienna and call it good.

The attraction of hooptie cars for me is twofold: (i) I don't have to worry about anything, and (ii) Insurance is a lot cheaper without collision.

cheers -mathias

qbrozen

henryn said:

We got early dismissal today, 2:30, so I set out to do a little car shopping. My Passat TDI goes back January 17th, so… I stopped by to look at a 2011 Infiniti EX after @qbrozen talked about and then bought one. I didn’t fit (headroom), but they had a really nice FX35. Low miles, one local owner, dealer serviced, new tires. 2012 Infiniti FX35 Houston, TX 32k miles Dark brown exterior, lighter interior http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=77021&modelCode1=FX35&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=77021&showcaseOwnerId=70009&startYear=1981&listingType=used&endYear=2017&modelCodeList=FX35&makeCodeList=INFIN&modelCode1=FX35&mmt=%5BINFIN%5BFX35%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingTypes=used&showcaseListingId=446152523&makeCode1=INFIN&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=25&showcaseOwnerId=70009&listingTypes=used&showcaseListingId=446152523&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&makeCode1=INFIN&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&searchRadius=25&listingId=444613411&makeCode1=INFIN&modelCode1=FX35 https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?make=INFIN&vin=-7|69|27|-11|84|95|31|29|109|98|-105|-57|81|5|-94|43|115|-25|23|-8|-105|91|52|-122|&dealer_id=585088&car_id=444613411&partner=ATD_W I like this car, but I’m not too crazy about paying $26k for a 5 year old car. I then stopped down the street and drove a 2011 Hyundai Genesis with the 4.6L v8. 2011 Hyundai Genesis, black noir pearl, 66k miles, the interior was a light color (beige?). This is another one owner local car. There are no pictures on the web site for this, but it is very clean, except for the wheels. The chrome is peeling on all 4 wheels, they are ugly as homemade sin. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=77021&showcaseOwnerId=56940910&startYear=2011&numRecords=25&endYear=2015&modelCode1=GENESIS&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=77021&showcaseOwnerId=56940910&startYear=2011&listingType=used&endYear=2015&modelCodeList=GENESIS&makeCodeList=HYUND&modelCode1=GENESIS&mmt=%5BHYUND%5BGENESIS%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingTypes=used%2Ccertified&showcaseListingId=443253422&makeCode1=HYUND&maxPrice=28000&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=25&listingTypes=used,certified&showcaseListingId=443253422&makeCode1=HYUND&maxPrice=28000&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=25&listingId=446042066&makeCode1=HYUND&modelCode1=GENESIS https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?make=HYUND&vin=-125|73|-128|9|123|-69|-104|86|-48|-61|63|-109|66|-80|-32|101|-95|54|98|-52|-112|72|-60|41|&dealer_id=100028052&car_id=446042066&partner=ATD_W This dealer told me the average price on Mannheim auctions for this car was $11,100. I'm wondering if he was truthful?

Head room in the EX? I'm 6'5". How the hell tall are YOU?

Dealer isn't lying. I'd say he is even a little low given the mileage. Doesntappear they dip into the $11s till they break 70k miles.

henryn

qbrozen said:

henryn said:

We got early dismissal today, 2:30, so I set out to do a little car shopping. My Passat TDI goes back January 17th, so…

I stopped by to look at a 2011 Infiniti EX after @qbrozen talked about and then bought one. I didn’t fit (headroom),

Head room in the EX? I'm 6'5". How the hell tall are YOU?

I'm 6'2" and a smidge. But I have short legs (31 inch inseam) and a very long body. So I sit about as tall as most basketball players. And my arms are also on the shorter side, so I can't reach the steering wheel if I recline the seat very far.

aspecx1

Can someone please give me a dealer trade-in estimate on the following:

2008 BMW 335i Sedan
125,000
Good overall condition with sport/premium packages
Automatic
Dark Blue Ext / Brown Leather Int
Does have 3 accidents on CarFax (previous owners)

Thanks

Michaell

aspecx1 said:

Can someone please give me a dealer trade-in estimate on the following:

2008 BMW 335i Sedan
125,000
Good overall condition with sport/premium packages
Automatic
Dark Blue Ext / Brown Leather Int
Does have 3 accidents on CarFax (previous owners)

Thanks

What city and state?

aspecx1

Michaell said:

aspecx1 said:

Can someone please give me a dealer trade-in estimate on the following:

2008 BMW 335i Sedan

What city and state?

Atlanta, GA

nyccarguy

aspecx1 said:

Can someone please give me a dealer trade-in estimate on the following:

2008 BMW 335i Sedan
125,000
Good overall condition with sport/premium packages
Automatic
Dark Blue Ext / Brown Leather Int
Does have 3 accidents on CarFax (previous owners)

Thanks

How come you you wish to part with this vehicle? COUGH High Pressure Fuel Pump COUGH. Sorry, I've got a tickle in my throat.

qbrozen

hmmm... *COUGH* paper mache vanos sensors *COUGH* carbon buildup *COUGH*
jeez! must be contagious!

Anyhooo... this will hurt ... $2k-$2500.
I am SURE someone will gladly take it off your hands for maybe $5k.

Mr_Shiftright

Ah, the Nein 54 engine.....

andres3

aspecx1 said:

Can someone please give me a dealer trade-in estimate on the following:

2008 BMW 335i Sedan
125,000
Good overall condition with sport/premium packages
Automatic
Dark Blue Ext / Brown Leather Int
Does have 3 accidents on CarFax (previous owners)

Thanks

At 3 accidents cars should be required to remove all badges.

Mr_Shiftright

Or at least remove the giant magnets in the doors

andres3

There's a colleague at work with a '08 335i and she seems to think a few expensive repairs every year is normal for a German car ownership experience; so she's happy with it. I will give her credit for mentioning today that the 328i new loaner she was given the other day by the dealership was garbage compared to her older model.

Ultimate driving machine they are not anymore.

henryn

I just got a rude shock down at CarMax. Contemplating my options after the Passat TDI is sold back to VW next month, one of my options is to drop back to one vehicle. I would need something that is easy to park in the parking garage downtown, and something is also comfortable enough for the occasional road trip.

If I’m going to drop back to one vehicle, then I will want to trade in my truck, so I need a base line on it’s value.

2015 Ford F150 4x2 SuperCrew
145 inch wheelbase
2.7L V6 Ecoboost engine
6 speed auto
Exterior: bronze fire metallic
Interior: Medium camel cloth

Miles: 5,843
In Houston, TX

This truck is very close to perfect, no curb rash on the wheels, one visible door ding (if you look for it).

Carmax comes back with an offer of $19,000. My jaw drops, and I ask the guy if he’s sure he’s got the right truck. Yep, he’s got the right truck. But don’t worry, he has good news. The Kelley Blue Book Instant Cash Offer is $22,250 and they’ll match that.

I assume they are dinging the h_ll out of the price due to the hood not being original. I can’t think of anything else. I know absolutely and for 100% certain that the bottom has not fallen out of used truck prices. Not in Texas, anyway.

If this is for real, then I am most definitely not trading in the truck. It’s worth more than that to me, even if I only drive it once a week.

breld

breld said:

Hey Q - can you provide your thoughts on this (just in case ): In Colorado, 2012 MINI hardtop Base model with manual trannie Ice Blue with Carbon Black interior It has the panoramic sunroof, but other than that, it's bare bones 38k miles, good condition Thanks!

Well, as most of you know from other threads, we did pull the trigger on a new MINI. Based on the advice here (thanks @qbrozen, @Mr_Shiftright and @28firefighter), we are planning on going the private sale route, but the dealership is gonna take a look at it tomorrow when we pick up the new MINI just to see if it makes sense on trade. I'm thinking private sale around $10k, likely a touch under to get into the "4 digits" instead of 5. If they somehow came up to $8k on trade I'd be tempted to take that plus the $500 tax savings and call it a day. I'll report back.

Just reporting back - dealer came up to $8,000 on the trade, so we went ahead and took them up on it.  

With some real minor damage on the rear bumper and a fender panel that was slightly misaligned, not to mention the car saying service  was due, we thought it was a reasonable way to go. 

As always, thanks for all the advice!

qbrozen

henryn said:

I just got a rude shock down at CarMax. Contemplating my options after the Passat TDI is sold back to VW next month, one of my options is to drop back to one vehicle. I would need something that is easy to park in the parking garage downtown, and something is also comfortable enough for the occasional road trip. If I’m going to drop back to one vehicle, then I will want to trade in my truck, so I need a base line on it’s value. 2015 Ford F150 4x2 SuperCrew 145 inch wheelbase 2.7L V6 Ecoboost engine 6 speed auto Exterior: bronze fire metallic Interior: Medium camel cloth Miles: 5,843 In Houston, TX This truck is very close to perfect, no curb rash on the wheels, one visible door ding (if you look for it). Carmax comes back with an offer of $19,000. My jaw drops, and I ask the guy if he’s sure he’s got the right truck. Yep, he’s got the right truck. But don’t worry, he has good news. The Kelley Blue Book Instant Cash Offer is $22,250 and they’ll match that. I assume they are dinging the h_ll out of the price due to the hood not being original. I can’t think of anything else. I know absolutely and for 100% certain that the bottom has not fallen out of used truck prices. Not in Texas, anyway. If this is for real, then I am most definitely not trading in the truck. It’s worth more than that to me, even if I only drive it once a week.

What trim level? An XLT should be about $24k at most dealers and $25k at carmax.

if an XL, they are right on the money.

henryn

qbrozen said:

henryn said:

I just got a rude shock down at CarMax. Contemplating my options after the Passat TDI is sold back to VW next month, one of my options is to drop back to one vehicle. I would need something that is easy to park in the parking garage downtown, and something is also comfortable enough for the occasional road trip.

If I’m going to drop back to one vehicle, then I will want to trade in my truck, so I need a base line on it’s value.

2015 Ford F150 4x2 SuperCrew
145 inch wheelbase
2.7L V6 Ecoboost engine
6 speed auto
Exterior: bronze fire metallic
Interior: Medium camel cloth

Miles: 5,843
In Houston, TX

This truck is very close to perfect, no curb rash on the wheels, one visible door ding (if you look for it).

Carmax comes back with an offer of $19,000. My jaw drops, and I ask the guy if he’s sure he’s got the right truck. Yep, he’s got the right truck. But don’t worry, he has good news. The Kelley Blue Book Instant Cash Offer is $22,250 and they’ll match that.

I assume they are dinging the h_ll out of the price due to the hood not being original. I can’t think of anything else. I know absolutely and for 100% certain that the bottom has not fallen out of used truck prices. Not in Texas, anyway.

If this is for real, then I am most definitely not trading in the truck. It’s worth more than that to me, even if I only drive it once a week.

What trim level? An XLT should be about $24k at most dealers and $25k at carmax.

if an XL, they are right on the money.

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An XLT, and with the 302A package -- power sliding rear window, back up camera, bigger center screen console, LED lighting in the bed.

andres3

henryn said:

I just got a rude shock down at CarMax. Contemplating my options after the Passat TDI is sold back to VW next month, one of my options is to drop back to one vehicle. I would need something that is easy to park in the parking garage downtown, and something is also comfortable enough for the occasional road trip.

If I’m going to drop back to one vehicle, then I will want to trade in my truck, so I need a base line on it’s value.

2015 Ford F150 4x2 SuperCrew
145 inch wheelbase
2.7L V6 Ecoboost engine
6 speed auto
Exterior: bronze fire metallic
Interior: Medium camel cloth

Miles: 5,843
In Houston, TX

This truck is very close to perfect, no curb rash on the wheels, one visible door ding (if you look for it).

Carmax comes back with an offer of $19,000. My jaw drops, and I ask the guy if he’s sure he’s got the right truck. Yep, he’s got the right truck. But don’t worry, he has good news. The Kelley Blue Book Instant Cash Offer is $22,250 and they’ll match that.

I assume they are dinging the h_ll out of the price due to the hood not being original. I can’t think of anything else. I know absolutely and for 100% certain that the bottom has not fallen out of used truck prices. Not in Texas, anyway.

If this is for real, then I am most definitely not trading in the truck. It’s worth more than that to me, even if I only drive it once a week.

Ask them if you are getting dinged for panel replacement(s). They will answer you. That's probably it; Carmax is picky on accident damage evidence, as they should be.

xwesx

Perhaps, but it seems like there should be a difference between a crash and a stolen part. In a private party sale, the buyer's perception would surely be different in those scenarios.

henryn

I walked around the lot at CarMax with a salesman, while waiting for the appraisal on my truck. I had him unlock about 20 different cars so that I could do a trial fit (headroom, knee room, etc). A couple of surprises, at least to me: A Prius V and a Nissan Juke. Who would've thought?

While engaged in all of these trial fittings, a customer walking the lot by himself approached my salesman and asked if that were all of the trucks they had. I had not noticed before, but there were very few pickups. Only around 10 or 12 total. Here in Texas, they sell a LOT of pickup trucks. And someone looking for a pickup truck is not going to settle for anything else. Which made me anticipate a good offer for my truck, but alas, not to be.

They had a fair number of SUVs, but less than I would have expected. What they had was a boatload of cars. Like someone in their management failed to get the memo: "People aren't buying cars anymore, they're buying SUVs and trucks."

aspecx1

qbrozen said:

hmmm... *COUGH* paper mache vanos sensors *COUGH* carbon buildup *COUGH*
jeez! must be contagious!

Anyhooo... this will hurt ... $2k-$2500.
I am SURE someone will gladly take it off your hands for maybe $5k.

You were spot on. $5K is what it traded for. I had dealers offering $4500-$5000 so it was fairly consistent.

No hard feelings on the *cough* comments... they are all true! That car was expensive to maintain. Glad to be free of the next unknown to be honest.

cdnpinhead

It's nice when someone who has posted only a few times gets helpful information here.

There are two other boards where many of us gather to share (or just read/lurk) stories. You may want to check them out. One is called "Edmunds Members - Cars and Conversations" and the other is "Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous," though that title is somewhat misleading. Many of the guys on there acquire new rides on an annual (or even more often) basis, but they still tolerate someone like me. I buy a car for myself or my wife about once every 5-8 years.

I'd post the links, but most times when I try such things the result isn't what I intend.

Either way, best of luck with your future car situation.

qbrozen

aspecx1 said:

hmmm... *COUGH* paper mache vanos sensors *COUGH* carbon buildup *COUGH* jeez! must be contagious! Anyhooo... this will hurt ... $2k-$2500. I am SURE someone will gladly take it off your hands for maybe $5k.

You were spot on. $5K is what it traded for. I had dealers offering $4500-$5000 so it was fairly consistent. No hard feelings on the *cough* comments... they are all true! That car was expensive to maintain. Glad to be free of the next unknown to be honest.

You got that on TRADE? Those people lost their minds! Congrats!!

stever

henryn said:

While engaged in all of these trial fittings, a customer walking the lot by himself approached my salesman and asked if that were all of the trucks they had.

Should have told the customer, "follow me".

kyfdx

@henryn

RWD trucks are almost impossible to find, in this area. 95% are 4X4.

But, my friend wanted one.. We eventually found a 2013 XLT with base V-6 and 38K miles, asking $23K. I think he paid about $21,500. Extended cab, 2WD, like-new condition.

I would think the market for RWD would be a lot better in Texas. But, maybe it's too new? The new trucks all come with incentives and low APR, 72-month financing. Maybe, the comparisons are tough for the "finance" market. You'd think a cash buyer would snap it up, though.

suydam

"I walked around the lot at CarMax with a salesman, while waiting for the appraisal on my truck. I had him unlock about 20 different cars so that I could do a trial fit (headroom, knee room, etc). A couple of surprises, at least to me: A Prius V and a Nissan Juke. Who would've thought?"

We test drove a Nissan Juke. One of the most uncomfortable vehicles I have ever been in.

sda

The two local CarMax lots leave the cars unlocked. That makes for easy browsing. I had the Pilot appraised about a year ago. Because the front fender did not have the vin sticker, it and the front bumper had been replaced, they valued it thousands less, though they said it showed well and was a nice vehicle.

cesone619

Trade in value for 
2014 Cadillac CTS Coupe 3.6 V6, 41k miles, clean title, very clean inside, premium Bose sound.

tkfitz1

It might be that time again......

2015 Ford Edge
SEL
Roof
Tech package
Leather
Black on black
16000 or so miles, in NH
What might they have in it?
Thanks in advance.

Michaell

cesone619 said:

Trade in value for 
2014 Cadillac CTS Coupe 3.6 V6, 41k miles, clean title, very clean inside, premium Bose sound.

What city and state? Is this AWD?

qbrozen

tkfitz1 said:

It might be that time again...... 2015 Ford Edge SEL Roof Tech package Leather Black on black 16000 or so miles, in NH What might they have in it? Thanks in advance.

Fwd or awd? 4cyl or 6cyl?

tkfitz1

qbrozen said:

tkfitz1 said:

It might be that time again......

2015 Ford Edge
SEL
Roof
Tech package
Leather
Black on black
16000 or so miles, in NH
What might they have in it?
Thanks in advance.

Fwd or awd? 4cyl or 6cyl?

3.5 V6, AWD

tkfitz1

tkfitz1 said:

qbrozen said:

tkfitz1 said:

It might be that time again......

2015 Ford Edge
SEL
Roof
Tech package
Leather
Black on black
16000 or so miles, in NH
What might they have in it?
Thanks in advance.

Fwd or awd? 4cyl or 6cyl?

3.5 V6, AWD

The 4 cylinder 2WD models are rare here. Very much so in any higher trim line. Too bad.

qbrozen

tkfitz1 said:

tkfitz1 said:

It might be that time again...... 2015 Ford Edge SEL Roof Tech package Leather Black on black 16000 or so miles, in NH What might they have in it? Thanks in advance.

Fwd or awd? 4cyl or 6cyl?

3.5 V6, AWD

Hmmm...many in that $23k zip code with a couple wandering up to $25k. I think $26k buying would be safe enough. What is asking price?

tkfitz1

qbrozen said:

tkfitz1 said:

qbrozen said:

tkfitz1 said:

It might be that time again......

2015 Ford Edge
SEL
Roof
Tech package
Leather
Black on black
16000 or so miles, in NH
What might they have in it?
Thanks in advance.

Fwd or awd? 4cyl or 6cyl?

3.5 V6, AWD

Hmmm...many in that $23k zip code with a couple wandering up to $25k. I think $26k buying would be safe enough. What is asking price?

Thanks for the quick reply. They are asking 27700......it does have Nav if that makes a difference......It is at a no haggle place, so making a counter offer is fairly pointless. In a week it will be a 2015 in year 2017.......

sda

Mr_Shiftright said:

Ah, the Nein 54 engine.....

What is the story with these engines and what years were they used? Have the issues been resolved in newer models?

kyfdx

sda said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Ah, the Nein 54 engine.....

What is the story with these engines and what years were they used? Have the issues been resolved in newer models?

It's the 335i model twin-turbo V-6. Internal BMW designation is N54. 2007-2009 in the 3-series. (and, in other models).

It was replaced by the N55 model (twin-scroll single-turbo) in 2010, I think.

Mr_Shiftright

That's the most common part of the models affected. I found what I guess is a more comprehensive list.

E60, E61 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): 535i including xDrive
E71 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): X6 xDrive35i
E82, E88 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): 135i
E89 (MY 2009, 2010): E89 – Z4 sDrive35i
E90, E92, E93 (MY 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010): 335i including xDrive

roadburner

The N55 does not tend to suffer from the maladies of the N54. That said, the N55 is being superseded by the B58 modular engine.

qbrozen

tkfitz1 said:

tkfitz1 said:

tkfitz1 said:

It might be that time again...... 2015 Ford Edge SEL Roof Tech package Leather Black on black 16000 or so miles, in NH What might they have in it? Thanks in advance.

Fwd or awd? 4cyl or 6cyl?

3.5 V6, AWD

Hmmm...many in that $23k zip code with a couple wandering up to $25k. I think $26k buying would be safe enough. What is asking price?

Thanks for the quick reply. They are asking 27700......it does have Nav if that makes a difference......It is at a no haggle place, so making a counter offer is fairly pointless. In a week it will be a 2015 in year 2017.......

Nav helps but only about $500. $27.7k is too much, IMHO. 

henryn

Is it just me, or do all of the "no haggle" dealerships seem to be really high priced? The prices at CarMax seem to be truly outlandish, and yet I see tremendous numbers of cars on the road with CarMax stickers.

Probably a reflection of how much people hate the typical car buying experience, which can be avoided at Carmax, I'll give you that.

jpp75

qbrozen said:

jpp5862 said:

@qbrozen Wondered if I could get an update on my Touareg. 2016 Lux V6, 14,000 miles, Canyon Gray over black, located in Southeastern NC. It has the extra safety feature package, which includes the Adaptive Cruise.

Thanks!

37'ish

Thanks q. Looks like it's staying with me for the next 24 months.

28firefighter

henryn said:

Is it just me, or do all of the "no haggle" dealerships seem to be really high priced? The prices at CarMax seem to be truly outlandish, and yet I see tremendous numbers of cars on the road with CarMax stickers.

Probably a reflection of how much people hate the typical car buying experience, which can be avoided at Carmax, I'll give you that.

I tend to agree. There are some exceptions, but generally they are overpriced by $1000-$2000.

What I will give CarMax is that they excel at the logistics of leveraging their massive network of vehicles. It is very easy to have a car transported to your local CarMax without obligation to purchase.

Also, I've read some pretty crazy stories about how good their extended warranty is, so for someone who wants to own an exotic car but is worried about the repairs, you pay a premium to have access to that warranty.

stickguy

My experience looking has been that yeas the are expensive. You pay for the comfort.

sda

I agree, prices at CarMax tend to be high. Every once in a while I'll find a car priced where I think it is a good value, but not often. I have sold 3 cars to CarMax and the process was very easy. That was when they would offer more than what I could get from the dealer when I was ready to trade. In the past year or so I have found that they tend to bid low so I haven't given them the pleasure of my business.

tjc78

We have another chain in the NJ area called Autolenders. Similar business model to Carmax. They are also extremely high, but as I'm sure Stick and Q can attest to there are plenty of those stickers on cars in the area.

I sold my 09 Genesis to them for $1100 or so above my buyout (27 months into my lease) then they put it for sale $6000 above that and it was off their website in a week.

mjfloyd1

kyfdx said:

Ah, the Nein 54 engine.....

What is the story with these engines and what years were they used? Have the issues been resolved in newer models?

It's the 335i model twin-turbo V-6. Internal BMW designation is N54. 2007-2009 in the 3-series. (and, in other models). It was replaced by the N55 model (twin-scroll single-turbo) in 2010, I think.

Correct except straight 6...