Real-World Trade-In Values

Michaell

Mr_Shiftright said:

Audi is niche-crazy.

No more so than BMW or MB, I think.

kyfdx

I think the Q3 that is out now, is better than the FWD 1.8T they reviewed when they first came out. Now that the 2.0T engine is standard, it's basically a prettier Tiguan.

andres3

Someone didn't like this beautiful new red Q3 Quattro 2.0T with 1,500 miles and for sale sign on it. Snapped a photo as they were leaving, but never had the time to call them and ask why (this was months and months ago)! Left a bad vibe in my mind.

explorerx4

Q3 was probably where is - as is.

Mr_Shiftright

Selling a $32,000 car with a For Sale sign in the window?---good luck with that.

andres3

Mr_Shiftright said:

Selling a $32,000 car with a For Sale sign in the window?---good luck with that.

I never saw that Q3 again so perhaps they were just visiting, or it got sold. If it did sell, I'm betting the FOR SALE sign was in addition to other advertising methods.

But who sells a '17 model back in 2016 with 1,500 miles on it? Looks in excellent shape so it's not like it was crashed into (unless it was already fixed).

nyccarguy

@andres3 - "But who sells a '17 model back in 2016 with 1,500 miles on it?"

Who needs a reason? You are a CCBA member, right?

kyfdx

I leased a 2011 Z4 for my wife. We had it a week, and she told me she hated it. It was gone at the one month mark.

henryn

kyfdx said:

I leased a 2011 Z4 for my wife. We had it a week, and she told me she hated it. It was gone at the one month mark.

Which can be rather expensive, and is why I prefer to spend some real time with a car before I make the decision to commit to buying. The typical 15 minute test drive just does NOT tell you the full story. I like to live with one for a week. I find it to be worth the cost of renting (if possible).

Unfortunately, there are a number of cars that you just can't find for rent. A few years back, I was on the verge of buying a CR-V, but the inability to spend serious time with one caused me to back away.

andres3

henryn said:

kyfdx said:

I leased a 2011 Z4 for my wife. We had it a week, and she told me she hated it. It was gone at the one month mark.

Which can be rather expensive, and is why I prefer to spend some real time with a car before I make the decision to commit to buying. The typical 15 minute test drive just does NOT tell you the full story. I like to live with one for a week. I find it to be worth the cost of renting (if possible).

Unfortunately, there are a number of cars that you just can't find for rent. A few years back, I was on the verge of buying a CR-V, but the inability to spend serious time with one caused me to back away.

Some dealers might be willing to extend you a 30 minute test drive. Still not the same as having a car for a week. I think I could get the complete picture over a weekend.

kyfdx

Most of our local luxury make dealers will let you take a car home, overnight.

The last one we did that with was a 2011 Infiniti (which we then leased).

The Z4 was a super cheap lease on a service loaner. I had to fly to Baltimore to get it. But, I knew I could flip it, if needed. It was that cheap.

suydam

I think last year you could have the Encore overnight. Maybe other GM cars as well? And a few years back I was given a Nissan Altima for the weekend to try out. That didn't work for them as I decided it wasn't the car for me.

fladriver

Hi,

I've got a lease ending on a 2014 Jetta Hybrid SE and I'm considering buying it. It's black, 30000 miles, in Florida.

I know I would have to buy it for the residual but what is the market value of the car?

Thanks,
Martha

qbrozen

$9k-$9500 trade, $10-10.5k auction, $13-$14k retail.

fladriver

qbrozen - thank you!

My residual is $13325. I think I'd like to buy it out, but could I ask you if the $13-$14k retail is for a CPO?

sda

I've had dealers let me take the car home for a day or so but haven't had that offered to me recently. That was a nice accommodation as I could really look the car over, try out the features, see how it fit in the garage, and put it thru the paces of my normal routine. Of those that I took home there was only one that I didn't buy.

explorerx4

I remember seeing some 300 engineering mules when they had cloud car bodies on them.

qbrozen

fladriver said:

qbrozen - thank you!

My residual is $13325. I think I'd like to buy it out, but could I ask you if the $13-$14k retail is for a CPO?

I wasn't figuring CPO. Really not sure what that would cost for a VW.

Sandman6472

We always do the "garage test" for whatever we buy. Every dealer has been cool with it but we live very close to most that we'd deal with. So far, the '88 Corolla FX and the current Golf have fit the best on my side where the air handler resides. The wife takes the longer side and only the '88 Olds 88 had issues.

The Sandman

(Seems like we're staying in the area for longer than expected. Found a new development of townhouses going up near us that we might be able to swap out into. Asking low $300's and from the comps I've been seeing, 4/2's like ours are going for the high $300's even without a pool. Going to check them out because might just work to sell our 30 year old place and get something brand new, and a bit smaller. Only killer would be the stairs and my spinal issues. Would be cool to get a much newer place and walk away with twenty to forty thousand cash and continue to have $0 mortgage!)

nyccarguy

Hey @qbrozen - can you peg a trade in value for me on the following:

2015 Cadillac Escalade 
4WD
Grey Exterior/Brown Interior
22K miles
Not a platinum edition, but loaded up to that point
perfect condition inside & out

qbrozen

Guess I'll call it a "premium," which would put it at about $54-55k.

BTW, platinum would be $5k more. 

nyccarguy

Thanks

kyfdx

No particular reason, but...

2011 BMW X3 xDrive 28
Bluewater Metallic/black leather
Premium pkg
NAV
85K miles
Good tires, brakes, etc.. all dealer maintenance
Need a trade-in number, please.

Thanks!

qbrozen

$11k-$12k

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

$11k-$12k

Ouch... I was afraid of that.

Thanks!

Mr_Shiftright

Q--do you have any recent auction pricing for a 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman S, 75,000, loaded up, San Francisco Bay Area, top shape. Thanks!

nyccarguy

kyfdx said:

$11k-$12k

Ouch... I was afraid of that. Thanks!

Can't part ways with the ZHP, so you are going to dump the wife's X3 instead?

kyfdx

We were looking at X1s, yesterday. But, with a value of $12K on the X3, she might be driving it for another 4 years.

Michaell

OK, just for grins .... (and, since I just described my daughter's next ride in CCBA) ...

2014 MINI Cooper Countryman S ALL4

Royal Grey (really, more green), black leather interior. 28,000 miles, new tires with maybe 3000 miles on them.

Fully loaded - nav, pano roof, automatic.

Denver, CO area...

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--do you have any recent auction pricing for a 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman S, 75,000, loaded up, San Francisco Bay Area, top shape. Thanks!

Stick or auto?

qbrozen

Michaell said:

OK, just for grins .... (and, since I just described my daughter's next ride in CCBA) ... 2014 MINI Cooper Countryman S ALL4 Royal Grey (really, more green), black leather interior. 28,000 miles, new tires with maybe 3000 miles on them. Fully loaded - nav, pano roof, automatic. Denver, CO area...

Somewhere in the 17s up to 18k

qbrozen

qbrozen said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--do you have any recent auction pricing for a 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman S, 75,000, loaded up, San Francisco Bay Area, top shape. Thanks!

Stick or auto?

Oh, never mind. It is so worthless that it doesn't matter. They are in the low 4s.

nyccarguy

Michaell said:

OK, just for grins .... (and, since I just described my daughter's next ride in CCBA) ... 2014 MINI Cooper Countryman S ALL4 Royal Grey (really, more green), black leather interior. 28,000 miles, new tires with maybe 3000 miles on them. Fully loaded - nav, pano roof, automatic. Denver, CO area...

What are they asking for it?

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

qbrozen said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--do you have any recent auction pricing for a 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman S, 75,000, loaded up, San Francisco Bay Area, top shape. Thanks!

Stick or auto?

Oh, never mind. It is so worthless that it doesn't matter. They are in the low 4s.

Thanks Q---yeah I think at that point it doesn't matter either. I think I'll suggest to my friend that if the car checks out on a PPI to offer $6K tops. It is impeccably clean I must say.

stickguy

Bradd, that is her current car they are looking to trade in.

nyccarguy

stickguy said:

Bradd, that is her current car they are looking to trade in.

Whoops.  My bad.

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

stickguy said:

Bradd, that is her current car they are looking to trade in.

Whoops.  My bad.

Well, not now. Way buried in it, she is.

If she asks, I'll tell her, but at this point I was just collecting numbers.

As always, thanks for the reality check, @qbrozen

feldonis

qbrozen,
Can you give me a trade-in number on a:
2012 Jeep Wrangler JKU Sport, 70,000 miles, silver, cloth interior, good condition, modified if it makes a difference (lifted, 17" wheels, 35" tires)).
Thanks!

qbrozen

what is JKU?

feldonis

JK is a term for the model years and U is unlimited as in 4 door, sorry. Also, its an automatic

qbrozen

The mods might hurt it, and the miles are quite high. These, of course, have strong resale value, though. If they like the mods, $20k. If they don't, you might see $18-$19k.

nyccarguy

feldonis said:

qbrozen,
Can you give me a trade-in number on a:
2012 Jeep Wrangler JKU Sport, 70,000 miles, silver, cloth interior, good condition, modified if it makes a difference (lifted, 17" wheels, 35" tires)).
Thanks!

What city and state are you located in?

feldonis

nyccarguy said:

feldonis said:

qbrozen,
Can you give me a trade-in number on a:
2012 Jeep Wrangler JKU Sport, 70,000 miles, silver, cloth interior, good condition, modified if it makes a difference (lifted, 17" wheels, 35" tires)).
Thanks!

What city and state are you located in?

Houston, TX

mrploww

Hi, looking to trade our 2012 Honda Pilot 4WD EX-L with Nav. 85,000 miles, gray, very clean inside and out. No mechanical issues, all service records. Can you give me a trade in number?
Looking to buy a 2013 Honda CRV EX-L with Nav, 33,500 miles, silver with gray interior. Dealer is asking $16,975. Located in Columbus OH.
Thank you!!

qbrozen

Somewhere around $15k-$16k on yours.

if that CRV is a hair over 33,555, I believe they purchased it for $17,200 on Feb 16 in Chicago. No idea why it is priced at a loss.

mrploww

Carfax shows it was sold new in Marion OH and traded in at same dealer in November 2016. I'm hoping to get them down some on the CRV, but I know it is priced well. Do you think there is any room for negotiation?

qbrozen

probably not, but never hurts to try.

videolife

Couple questions for you guys.

1) How much can you haggle on a $4,000 - $5,000 car? Generally speaking, are we looking at $500 to $1,000? Or upwards of $2,000? I know there are many variables, but I wonder if a generalization can be made?

2) Can you please share your thoughts on the value of a 1998 Toyota Camry LE V6 Sedan in Illinois? $4k (before sales tax & fees), 80k miles, tan interior/exterior. What would be a good OTD price (post fees/taxes)? The listing says "Guaranteed Haggle Free Low Prices", so I'm not sure if they mean that literally (i.e. like Carmax), or if the price is negotiable at most dealerships, regardless of what they advertise.

qbrozen

Dealer is probably in it for about $2k, so the price is fair enough if it is nice and needs nothing. I'd probably push for $3500 though.

merritt295

Does anyone have approx value of a 2014 BMW x3 28i x-drive fully optioned in very clean condition ? 22k miles. ( northern NJ location )

Thanks !