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snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks. I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned. So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

What is the plural for Prius, Prii?

Anyway I have seemed to notice that around here Prius drives seem to do some serious hypermiling until you try to pass them then it's the Bandit trying to outrun Sherriff Buford T. Justice. 

abacomike

carnaught said:

To my son Cadillac” connotes old, stodgy, I would never have one, mentality.

Will, you need to be more “grammatically correct” when you post something on this board - more understanding of old geezers who don’t see well or understand a fragmented sentence! 

As an example, “To my son, “Cadillac” connotes old; stodgy; an ‘I would never have one,’ mentality.“  It took me 4 or 5 re-readings of your post to get the gist of what you were trying to convey.  But I keep forgetting that doctors can’t write worth a darn - ask any pharmacist! 

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

explorerx4 said:

@jomonroe1, Better that bear than this one.

I used to live in Kodiak Alaska, you should have seen the bears we had up there.

I used to live in Chicago, Illinois.  You should have seen the “Bears” we had up there. 

driver100

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks.

I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.

So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

What is the plural for Prius, Prii?

Anyway I have seemed to notice that around here Prius drives seem to do some serious hypermiling until you try to pass them then it's the Bandit trying to outrun Sherriff Buford T. Justice

. 

My neighbor was going on a 40 mile trip in his BMWi electric car. His car has a range of about 100 miles. He will be at his brothers who doesn't have a fast fill electric system, so total charge time is about 11 hours. They do hypermiling behind trucks to get more miles out of the car.

Oh man, the cost of being environmentally friendly. I don't like to waste resources, but, I like to enjoy my life too.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

jmonroe1 said:

So, I guess when someone says to you, "does a bear poop in the woods"? You can say, "and in my backyard too". To be honest, I'd be more concerned about the bear coming back than what it left behind. jmonroe

A haunting question bears on my mind: if a bear attacks @jmonroe or @jmonroe1 while he's mowing a yard, is that counted as 1 or 2 people that the bear attacked?

Probably 1, if we consider jmonroe0 and 1 as "people".

houdini2

28firefighter said:

Haha! I leased the Stelvio about a month ago now and I still have the Saab Viggen. The Viggen is only temporary as my Dad is planning to hand down his Porsche 968 at some point in the future, and that will be a forever car that I will hold onto for Sam.

For what it's worth, I was washing cars with my Dad starting when I was 4 or 5 years old. It was a weekend ritual for us to wash the family cars, make runs to the auto parts store, etc. Even now when I go home, it is something we make time for.

28firefighter said:

Haha! I leased the Stelvio about a month ago now and I still have the Saab Viggen. The Viggen is only temporary as my Dad is planning to hand down his Porsche 968 at some point in the future, and that will be a forever car that I will hold onto for Sam.

For what it's worth, I was washing cars with my Dad starting when I was 4 or 5 years old. It was a weekend ritual for us to wash the family cars, make runs to the auto parts store, etc. Even now when I go home, it is something we make time for.

Yes, great news FF. I hope you enjoy life every day until you are 100, and then pass away while haggling over a new Porsche.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

My neighbor was going on a 40 mile trip in his BMWi electric car. His car has a range of about 100 miles. He will be at his brothers who doesn't have a fast fill electric system, so total charge time is about 11 hours. They do hypermiling behind trucks to get more miles out of the car.

Driving closely behind trucks subjects your paint on your bumpers and the hood and mirrors to peppering by bits of stone from the roadway. Just hold your hand out the window for a while when close behind the trucks.

So the hypermilers are getting their paint chipped by sandblasting. Maybe the windshield as well.

Hypermiling tailgating:
As for hypermilers, the hondas and toyotas that brag about their super great mileage probably got it by drafting trucks and other vehicles. When I was going back and forth to Columbus during my son's last year and half to drop things at his apartment, I was in no hurry so I cruised at 60 in the right hand lane. I noticed how many Civics and toyotas would get behind me fairly close and then just stay there. If I went 62 or 63 as I noticed trucks governed at that speed coming up behind me or if I went slower at 58, they'd still tail me.

Then the State raised the speed limit for 65/55 to 70/70. So I started running a little faster to avoid being a problem for the trucks in the right lane when they were around me. Not quite as many tailgaters when I was going faster.

roadburner

Anyone with half a brain should realize that the i3 is a city car- although the newest iteration does have a 140 mile range. No issues with using ours. If you are borderline senile and constantly forget to plug it in you will have a problem, but that’s about it.

fintail

Calling either a "world city" (on par with London, NYC, LA etc) is a gigantic stretch.

snakeweasel said:

Wouldn't that be Jerusalem?

As for U.S. cities it would be Boston.

fintail

I think as the population experiences some aging, and the boomers move deeper into senior citizen-hood, there will be more of that doddering stereotype in every brand, as they love their Toyolex products among many other brands - probably a lot less brand loyalty (especially "buy American" rhetoric) in that generation than in those prior. Larger Toyolex models already have that rep, at least on the west coast. As you say, these cars replaced Buicks, the Avalon and Lexus ES have long been called a Japanese (at least in corporate parentage) Buick. RAV4s are also a big hit with the "active" retiree set.

And don't get me started on Prius here.

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks.

I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.

So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

qbrozen

imidazol97 said:

Facebook has been breached--50 million accounts at risk.

Oh goodness! The thieves will know I'm friends with Aunt Ida!

qbrozen

snakeweasel said:

dino001 said:

I'm surprised nobody mentioned SEC suing Tesla and Elon Musk. This is big deal. If this protracts, Tesla won't be able to acquire new capital on public markets and considering their cashburn rate and the convertible debt due, this could be a true disaster, all the way to BK. I'm sure they can find a way out, but reports are saying Musk actually scuttled a settlement last minute, which only confirms the man has major psychological issues.

Could it also mean that the SEC's case isn't as strong as it appears, or it's falling apart?

Can't say one way or the other as I am not following it, just presenting another reason why he scuttled the agreement.

From what little I have read, I can't say the SEC is wrong in their accusation. However, is it really againt the rules to be boastful and overpromise? Isn't that the job of every CEO?

carnaught

I’ll say one thing re: Prius. As you know, wifey has an ’18 Prius as a city car/grocery getter. When driving down a large street in town, or rarely the highway, even if we’re going 5-10 miles over the limit, cars unceremoniously rush to pass us, stopping just short of giving us the swear finger. We are not LLC’s, and dislike them. Stereotypes work both ways.

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

jmonroe1 said:

So, I guess when someone says to you, "does a bear poop in the woods"? You can say, "and in my backyard too". To be honest, I'd be more concerned about the bear coming back than what it left behind. jmonroe

A haunting question bears on my mind: if a bear attacks @jmonroe or @jmonroe1 while he's mowing a yard, is that counted as 1 or 2 people that the bear attacked?

So, you have "bears" on your mind. How about dogs, cats, goldfish, parakeets, you get the idea.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

explorerx4 said:

@jomonroe1,
Better that bear than this one.

I used to live in Kodiak Alaska, you should have seen the bears we had up there.

And they were probably Grizzlies. By comparison Black bears are kinda tame/timid.

I'm waiting to hear from our poster buddy @xwesx about his bear story/stories.

jmonroe

Drivingfool

Used to have a few Prius's at work but haven't seen many of the newer ones lately. I don't like them because of the rear split window and can't understand why they do that? We do have some Fusion hybrids which folks seem to like. Had one for my rental over nite but it was a bit too big, so swapped it out for a smaller vehicle at Enterprise. Since my insurance did direct billing with them, was just easier than going with Hertz. The last week that was on me, went with Hertz as I'm a Gold Member and get a 40% employee discount. Still waiting to be reimbursed for that cost as well as my deductible but not holding my breath. Found out Windstream is a sucky insurance company and they have a very bad reputation!

bwia

explorerx4 said:

@28ff,
Great news that you are off medication, means you're healthy.
If you are like me, just not taking any medication is its' own reward.
We have to save some for Abacomike.

So you are driving the Viggen as a backup to the Stelvio?

Ditto--let's celebrate to a clean bill of health. Stay well

suydam

abacomike said:

carnaught said:

To my son Cadillac” connotes old, stodgy, I would never have one, mentality.

Will, you need to be more “grammatically correct” when you post something on this board - more understanding of old geezers who don’t see well or understand a fragmented sentence! 

As an example, “To my son, “Cadillac” connotes old; stodgy; an ‘I would never have one,’ mentality.“  It took me 4 or 5 re-readings of your post to get the gist of what you were trying to convey.  But I keep forgetting that doctors can’t write worth a darn - ask any pharmacist! 


I’m not into correcting other peoples’ grammar. He wrote it the way you’d speak, and I had no trouble with it. We aren’t that formal here.

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

explorerx4 said:

@jomonroe1, Better that bear than this one.

I used to live in Kodiak Alaska, you should have seen the bears we had up there.

And they were probably Grizzlies. By comparison Black bears are kinda tame/timid. I'm waiting to hear from our poster buddy @xwesx about his bear story/stories. jmonroe

Kodiak bear which is a subspecies of the Alaskan Brown bear and the largest bears around.

jmonroe1

suydam said:

abacomike said:

carnaught said:

To my son Cadillac” connotes old, stodgy, I would never have one, mentality.

Will, you need to be more “grammatically correct” when you post something on this board - more understanding of old geezers who don’t see well or understand a fragmented sentence! 

As an example, “To my son, “Cadillac” connotes old; stodgy; an ‘I would never have one,’ mentality.“  It took me 4 or 5 re-readings of your post to get the gist of what you were trying to convey.  But I keep forgetting that doctors can’t write worth a darn - ask any pharmacist! 

I’m not into correcting other peoples’ grammar. He wrote it the way you’d speak, and I had no trouble with it. We aren’t that formal here.

I ain't no grammar guru myself and I know @Mike was just having some fun with @carnaught and I'm pretty sure @carnaught didn't name his son, Cadillac but if he did, he should be in here defending himself.

jmonroe

imidazol97

I'm confused.

Mr_Shiftright

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks.

I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.

So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

Well all stereotypes do have a grain of truth to them--we just tend to exaggerate them.

Mr_Shiftright

fintail said:

Calling either a "world city" (on par with London, NYC, LA etc) is a gigantic stretch.

snakeweasel said:

Wouldn't that be Jerusalem?

As for U.S. cities it would be Boston.

Boston was at one time, the premier city in America for science and culture but that was maybe 125 years ago.

explorerx4

Boston's baseball team has won more games this year that any baseball team in the world.

fintail

Nothing against Boston, people say similar things about Seattle too, usually to try to justify the insane real estate costs. Seattle isn't a world city either, it's a tech hub and regional city.

This all reminds me of an amusing "The Onion" piece from several years ago

Mr_Shiftright said:

Boston was at one time, the premier city in America for science and culture but that was maybe 125 years ago.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

I'm confused.

Glad to meet you confused, I'm Snakeweasel.

driver100

roadburner said:

Anyone with half a brain should realize that the i3 is a city car- although the newest iteration does have a 140 mile range. No issues with using ours. If you are borderline senile and constantly forget to plug it in you will have a problem, but that’s about it.

That is what I said to my wife, I would only consider one if I never went outside the city. My neighbor only uses it to get to work, about 15 miles each way....this time they wanted to take it on a long trip. They can plug it in while visiting.

I still say if I spend that much on a car I want it to be able to take me a lot more miles than even 140, just in case my main car is tied up and we have to use the second car. Different strokes and all that.......

driver100

fintail said:

Calling either a "world city" (on par with London, NYC, LA etc) is a gigantic stretch.

snakeweasel said:

Wouldn't that be Jerusalem?

As for U.S. cities it would be Boston.

Yah, and New York has some status to make your product more legitimate!

driver100

Mr_Shiftright said:

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks.

I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.

So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

Well all stereotypes do have a grain of truth to them--we just tend to exaggerate them.

I read Suburus were a big car of choice for seniors. They are small, have AWD, they are reliable and practical.

driver100

explorerx4 said:

Boston's baseball team has won more games this year that any baseball team in the world.

No reason to set up head office for a car company though!

houdini2

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Boston's baseball team has won more games this year that any baseball team in the world.

No reason to set up head office for a car company though!

Two words...tax incentives. They must have expired so back to Detroit for more...tax incentives.

jmonroe1

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Boston's baseball team has won more games this year that any baseball team in the world.

No reason to set up head office for a car company though!

Two words...tax incentives. They must have expired so back to Detroit for more...tax incentives.

He's slow, say it again.

jmonroe

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks.

I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.

So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

Well all stereotypes do have a grain of truth to them--we just tend to exaggerate them.

I read Suburus were a big car of choice for seniors. They are small, have AWD, they are reliable and practical.

That's not quite the stereotype I've heard, but I'm not going to say any more about THAT.

driver100

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks.

I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.

So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

Well all stereotypes do have a grain of truth to them--we just tend to exaggerate them.

I read Suburus were a big car of choice for seniors. They are small, have AWD, they are reliable and practical.

That's not quite the stereotype I've heard, but I'm not going to say any more about THAT.

Edmund's Posters demand to know!

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Boston's baseball team has won more games this year that any baseball team in the world.

No reason to set up head office for a car company though!

Two words...tax incentives. They must have expired so back to Detroit for more...tax incentives.

He's slow, say it again.

jmonroe

Read this S-L-O-W-L-Y jm:

New York's economic development agency approved a $1 million grant to Cadillac to help with the $12.7 million renovation of the Manhattan headquarters.

Morrissey said GM did not draw down any of the incentive funds "but we are thankful and appreciative of the support we got from New York."

Jason Conwall, spokesman for Empire State Development, New York state's main economic development office, said the state is disappointed in the move, but understands "this is a business decision being made by GM to co-locate the Cadillac headquarters with the rest of its corporate headquarters."

He confirmed that the state did not disperse any of the $1 million performance grant to GM.

Seems tax incentives weren't the reason!

fintail

I suspect DeNysschen didn't want to live in metro Detroit, although his reasoning of wanting to be away from other GM distractions isn't bad. I wonder where he lived with Infiniti - I know most US Nissan stuff is in TN, and although Nashville is apparently evolving into a fairly cool city, it might not have been up to his standards either. Or maybe he lived in HK, which would make Detroit a big shock.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Boston's baseball team has won more games this year that any baseball team in the world.

No reason to set up head office for a car company though!

Two words...tax incentives. They must have expired so back to Detroit for more...tax incentives.

He's slow, say it again.

jmonroe

Read this S-L-O-W-L-Y jm:

New York's economic development agency approved a $1 million grant to Cadillac to help with the $12.7 million renovation of the Manhattan headquarters.

Morrissey said GM did not draw down any of the incentive funds "but we are thankful and appreciative of the support we got from New York."

Jason Conwall, spokesman for Empire State Development, New York state's main economic development office, said the state is disappointed in the move, but understands "this is a business decision being made by GM to co-locate the Cadillac headquarters with the rest of its corporate headquarters."

He confirmed that the state did not disperse any of the $1 million performance grant to GM.

Seems tax incentives weren't the reason!

Do you really believe everything you read on the Internet?

jmonroe

henryn

Elon Musk Steps Down as Tesla’s Chairman in Settlement With S.E.C. Over Go-Private Tweet



Elon Musk, under pressure from his lawyers and investors of Tesla, the company he co-founded, reached a deal with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Saturday to resolve securities fraud charges. The settlement will force Mr. Musk to step aside as chairman for three years and pay a $20 million fine.


The S.E.C. announced the deal two days after it sued Mr. Musk in federal court for misleading investors over his post on Twitter last month that he had “funding secured” for a buyout of the electric-car company at $420 a share.
The deal with the S.E.C. will allow him to remain as chief executive, something he could have jeopardized if he had gone to battle with the agency.
…
Mr. Musk is widely regarded by analysts and investors as the creative engine behind Tesla, and he has helped the company become one of the most valuable American carmakers. But Tesla has lurched from crisis to crisis over the past year, and has since scrambled to contain the fallout from Mr. Musk’s tweet.

When are people going to learn to stay the hell off Twitter? Idiots.

iluvmysephia1

All right, well, I'm still driving the 2011 Kia Soul 5-speed base, but now I've turned my attention to a beautiful specimen of 2017 Nissan Sentra NISMO 6-speed. I've found one in El Paso at a used car dealer. Price is $17,995 and the miles are 6,800. For miles that low that is a decent price. The car retails for $24,990. Nissan does a few extras for the NISMO Sentra including a small spoiler, no sunroof, though my wife and I don't need a sunroof.

It has NissanConnect, Bluetooth, steering wheel audio controls, and such, but it's the special sills, spoiler, extra front end lighting and distinct labeling on the car that makes it an interesting proposition. I seem to really love the Nissan Sentra line, but I don't think the base model would keep me satisfied in the long run. For another $5,000 the NISMO line wouldn't definitely do it for me. It's not selling at this dealer, the dealer gets good marks from people as far as helping them with financing and such. I think I could do much worse. For a car with only 6,800 miles and the rest of the factory Warranty going to the buyer, I could do much, much worse. For instance, I've found '17 Nissan Sentra NISMO's (2017 is the first model year for the Nissan Sentra NISMO) on Car Gurus going for $18,995 and more, absolutely none for a price as low as $17,995.

Here's some pics of the car. It's silver.








What's cool about this quest is that El Paso is only 90 miles south of us. It would be ironic if I buy this car in El Paso. El Paso was where we surrendered our 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS against our will but because of cold, harsh reality. The car broke down on Highway 54 southbound to El Paso! I'll never forget it - it brings back nasty memories for me and the Mrs.

It'll just take an hour and a half drive and a pretty quick test drive to get this done. I have to decide on the timing. It'll never be the right time for the Mrs. - she thinks on a much different plane of thinking regarding cars that I do, though.

stickguy

well, that is at least a bit fancier, and a whole lot quicker, than a base model. Lots more money of course.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Bears in the back yard annoy me.

If he shows up again shoot him in the butt with a paint ball gun or bb gun while making a lot of noise (if you can do so safely). You might save his life. Bears that make too frequent contact with humans eventually get put down.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

Anyone with half a brain should realize that the i3 is a city car- although the newest iteration does have a 140 mile range. No issues with using ours. If you are borderline senile and constantly forget to plug it in you will have a problem, but that’s about it.

If Tesla goes belly up I bet VW is ready to swoop in and pick up the pieces. They have a 100,000 electric unit factory in the US and they have been heavily promoting electric cars in their new ads. (Kind of insulting where they imply that driving gas is stupid and no fun).

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks.

I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.

So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

Well all stereotypes do have a grain of truth to them--we just tend to exaggerate them.

I read Suburus were a big car of choice for seniors. They are small, have AWD, they are reliable and practical.

That's not quite the stereotype I've heard, but I'm not going to say any more about THAT.

Edmund's Posters demand to know!

Think man bun.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Boston's baseball team has won more games this year that any baseball team in the world.

No reason to set up head office for a car company though!

Two words...tax incentives. They must have expired so back to Detroit for more...tax incentives.

He's slow, say it again.

jmonroe

Read this S-L-O-W-L-Y jm:

New York's economic development agency approved a $1 million grant to Cadillac to help with the $12.7 million renovation of the Manhattan headquarters.

Morrissey said GM did not draw down any of the incentive funds "but we are thankful and appreciative of the support we got from New York."

Jason Conwall, spokesman for Empire State Development, New York state's main economic development office, said the state is disappointed in the move, but understands "this is a business decision being made by GM to co-locate the Cadillac headquarters with the rest of its corporate headquarters."

He confirmed that the state did not disperse any of the $1 million performance grant to GM.

Seems tax incentives weren't the reason!

I don't know, NY has a lot of different ways to hand out taxpayer money to crony capitalists. There are many different incentives to the favored few. 1 million sounds like chump change.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

imidazol97 said:

Amazingly, I've seen that same stereotype here. AND not only Cadillacs and Buicks, but Camrys, Hondas, and MBs. A CRv or Rav4 are most likely now to be driven, in this area, by older folks who seem lacking in some faculties. They bought those as a replacement for their Buicks.

I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.

So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for Piouses Priuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.

Well all stereotypes do have a grain of truth to them--we just tend to exaggerate them.

I read Suburus were a big car of choice for seniors. They are small, have AWD, they are reliable and practical.

That's not quite the stereotype I've heard, but I'm not going to say any more about THAT.

Edmund's Posters demand to know!

Think man bun.

Thanks....I guess they also attract dog lovers.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Boston's baseball team has won more games this year that any baseball team in the world.

No reason to set up head office for a car company though!

Two words...tax incentives. They must have expired so back to Detroit for more...tax incentives.

He's slow, say it again.

jmonroe

Read this S-L-O-W-L-Y jm:

New York's economic development agency approved a $1 million grant to Cadillac to help with the $12.7 million renovation of the Manhattan headquarters.

Morrissey said GM did not draw down any of the incentive funds "but we are thankful and appreciative of the support we got from New York."

Jason Conwall, spokesman for Empire State Development, New York state's main economic development office, said the state is disappointed in the move, but understands "this is a business decision being made by GM to co-locate the Cadillac headquarters with the rest of its corporate headquarters."

He confirmed that the state did not disperse any of the $1 million performance grant to GM.

Seems tax incentives weren't the reason!

Do you really believe everything you read on the Internet?

jmonroe

I believe what jmonroe (zero) writes but not that new imposter guy, jmonroe1.

driver100

iluvmysephia1 said:

It'll just take an hour and a half drive and a pretty quick test drive to get this done. I have to decide on the timing. It'll never be the right time for the Mrs. - she thinks on a much different plane of thinking regarding cars that I do, though.

I agree with Mrs iluv.
btw....what happened when you got to the dealership the last time?

dino001

Looks like the same deal he scuttled first. Seems like SEC is quite generous. So SEC case wasn’t so weak, was it? All it took is file in the court and couple of days later he caves. Whe everybody around you tells you you’re a genius, you think you’re invincible and nothing can touch you. First time in years he sees otherwise.

Elon Musk Steps Down as Tesla’s Chairman in Settlement With S.E.C. Over Go-Private Tweet



Elon Musk, under pressure from his lawyers and investors of Tesla, the company he co-founded, reached a deal with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Saturday to resolve securities fraud charges. The settlement will force Mr. Musk to step aside as chairman for three years and pay a $20 million fine.


The S.E.C. announced the deal two days after it sued Mr. Musk in federal court for misleading investors over his post on Twitter last month that he had “funding secured” for a buyout of the electric-car company at $420 a share.
The deal with the S.E.C. will allow him to remain as chief executive, something he could have jeopardized if he had gone to battle with the agency.
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Mr. Musk is widely regarded by analysts and investors as the creative engine behind Tesla, and he has helped the company become one of the most valuable American carmakers. But Tesla has lurched from crisis to crisis over the past year, and has since scrambled to contain the fallout from Mr. Musk’s tweet.

When are people going to learn to stay the hell off Twitter? Idiots.

oldfarmer50

iluvmysephia1 said:

All right, well, I'm still driving the 2011 Kia Soul 5-speed base, but now I've turned my attention to a beautiful specimen of 2017 Nissan Sentra NISMO 6-speed. I've found one in El Paso at a used car dealer. Price is $17,995 and the miles are 6,800. For miles that low that is a decent price. The car retails for $24,990. Nissan does a few extras for the NISMO Sentra including a small spoiler, no sunroof, though my wife and I don't need a sunroof.

It has NissanConnect, Bluetooth, steering wheel audio controls, and such, but it's the special sills, spoiler, extra front end lighting and distinct labeling on the car that makes it an interesting proposition. I seem to really love the Nissan Sentra line, but I don't think the base model would keep me satisfied in the long run. For another $5,000 the NISMO line wouldn't definitely do it for me. It's not selling at this dealer, the dealer gets good marks from people as far as helping them with financing and such. I think I could do much worse. For a car with only 6,800 miles and the rest of the factory Warranty going to the buyer, I could do much, much worse. For instance, I've found '17 Nissan Sentra NISMO's (2017 is the first model year for the Nissan Sentra NISMO) on Car Gurus going for $18,995 and more, absolutely none for a price as low as $17,995.

Here's some pics of the car. It's silver.








What's cool about this quest is that El Paso is only 90 miles south of us. It would be ironic if I buy this car in El Paso. El Paso was where we surrendered our 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS against our will but because of cold, harsh reality. The car broke down on Highway 54 southbound to El Paso! I'll never forget it - it brings back nasty memories for me and the Mrs.

It'll just take an hour and a half drive and a pretty quick test drive to get this done. I have to decide on the timing. It'll never be the right time for the Mrs. - she thinks on a much different plane of thinking regarding cars that I do, though.

I assume you've read the comments by the auto press on that car. It seems that Nissan is the new Mitsubishi for snarky comments. That said, if you like it and can afford it without your wife hitting the roof, I say go for it. Sell your Soul on Craigslist unless you want to take a bath.

stickguy

first time I read this, I was thinking soul, as in to the devil. Definitely more fun that way!