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I concur...who didn’t predict that. Wonder what the whole NYC move and move back cost the brand? I thought it was a silly move to begin with.
One would think that with all the marketing, engineering and 116 year history behind it, they’d be able to figure out what to do. From where I sit, the product is good. The execution is dismal.
Simple questions they need to ask themselves....
-What does a buyer of $$40K and above vehicles expect?
-What do luxury buyers want in their vehicles and their experience?
-How do you relate to those who do buy your vehicles?
Start there, and build on those answers.
But, what do I know? I was a customer (a lost customer). But, I also have decades of tech experience, mostly in marketing. I have my people ask similar questions about products, old and new, all the time.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Or it more going on old impressions without people actually experiencing the vehicles. Just going on what other "experts" say?
How many here have test driven a Cadillac? I recall @abacomike did drive one. I suspect that people judge by their favorite image of a luxury vehicle and always can find a reason not to consider a different one as up-to-par in my mind: it doesn't have a cup holder in the console or it doesn't have the certain feature here or there. I've sprinkled pickle juice around occasionally because a few are prejudge.
Amazingly, using numbers of visits to a service department at 134% of the average of vehicles, likely means 3 instead of 2 visits as for another popular brand considered in the "perfect" vehicle virtual image. In my earlier tweaking message on the point someone said, that it really comes down to dealer service for many of us.
I might have a Cadillac were I closer to a Cadillac store. I'm close to Chevy, Frod, Toyota, Hyundai.
I'll probably shop Hyundai (Kia) to see if they have the safety nannies I want in my next car available WITH a normal engine without having to buy a premium, high-powered engine. I have lane wander warnings, rear side traffic warning for on the road and in backup mode, and collision alert with brake prep but no auto braking. I want the automatic high speed braking on my next vehicle.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I would never look at a luxury caddy though. Not because of brand name, just too big and too expensive! I could see an ATS though.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Not a fan of DeNysschen's schtick. He made the same moves at Infiniti.
Regarding test drives, I haven't, but I rode with a friend on a CT6 test drive. Seriously nice car. Too bad the dealer experience put him off, especially when it came time to talk numbers - he ended up buying (yes, not leasing) a Lincoln. He still likes the CT6 though, and he's in the early 40s professional demographic the brand should target.
Nothing you can do about those attitudes which you have quite correctly noted. They are an easy target to slag, especially here where one poster had a curiously bad experience that seems rather unique. Same with the comments from many here and elsewhere about the naming convention for their models. It seems it is fine for Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Infiniti and several other brands to use such nomenclature but with Cadillac the armchair experts want them to go back to names from the 1950s. Of course when that failed as it undoubtedly would those same "experts" would be decrying how they remained stuck in the past..
As for the NYC move, if Detroit was such a great place to run a brand from it is curious why those companies that Cadillac sees as their direct competitors do not have their HQ offices there (except the struggling Lincoln). I imagine a Detroit location is not a positive for attracting top talent.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
If NYC is a great place to run a brand, it's funny that no other major automakers (that I recall) are based there. Many seem to be based in closer to factories and/or maybe in low cost/low amenity areas where they get tax bribes. Goofy moves by DeNysschen, not a fan of some of his ideas or his arrogant thin-skinned rep (not to mention just repeating a similar formula for Caddy as he used at Infiniti, with so-far both less than awesome results), but it might match his background.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
A great day indeed.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
No reason for any automaker to base there in 2018. And now Caddy is gone too.
How biblical! You could start up the Saw-zall and raise it above the car. Then one kid intervenes and says "No, father, spare the car and give it to my sibling!". Then you declare that "this one is the true owner".
Actually, that probably wouldn't go over well in real life....
1. The worst year for Cadillac's reputation: = 1980-81
2. When most people eligible to buy and drive a car in 1980 were born: = 1962
3. The average longevity of a person born in 1962 = about 80 years, give or take.
4. The year when no one will be alive to tell anyone else how bad Cadillac once was: = 2042
So, yeah, another 20 years or so before Cadillac gets back on its feet.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
One of Driver's Important Rules in Life is if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If someone calls and offers a 10% discount on my car insurance I say, I am happy with my current supplier, if I become unhappy, I will give you a call.
Same with cars. I have had only excellent pleasing results with my BMW and Mercedes cars, even the Audi was a great car to drive........why would I ever switch? I would be thinking the grass is greener....and it usually isn't. Cadillac probably makes a great car, I have been in them and like them, but, I don't want to take an unnecessary risk, especially when spending big bucks!
Names seem to be follow the leader. That is another problem, Cadillac is trying to emulate the experience a BMW or Mercedes owner wants........usually the original is the one that has the superior product....the others are wannabes trying to catch up - in most cases. The only way to do it is on price point, and they don't want to do that or they can't do it.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2018 430i Gran Coupe
2018 430i Gran Coupe
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
For what it's worth, I was washing cars with my Dad starting when I was 4 or 5 years old. It was a weekend ritual for us to wash the family cars, make runs to the auto parts store, etc. Even now when I go home, it is something we make time for.
Great news that you are off medication, means you're healthy.
If you are like me, just not taking any medication is its' own reward.
We have to save some for Abacomike.
So you are driving the Viggen as a backup to the Stelvio?
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Bad thing is, I need to mow the lawn tomorrow or Sunday and will have to look out for bear poop.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
In a large mixing bowl combine flour, oregano, salt and pepper. Place bear meat in the bowl a little at a time and coat well.
Heat oil and butter in a large skillet. Fry the bear meat until browned. Let drain on paper towels.
Fill a large Dutch oven with 2 to 3 quarts water. Add bear meat, onions, beef broth, bay leaves, potatoes, mushrooms carrots and turnips. Cook on medium-high heat for 2 to 3 hours. Add more water as needed.
Nutrition Facts
Per Serving: 585 calories; 28.1 g fat; 30.9 g carbohydrates; 51.2 g protein; 0 mg cholesterol; 618 mg sodium.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I do still have medication I’m on for my Crohn’s disease, but I’ve been on it for over a decade and it works just fine with no side effects, so no huge burden.
Better that bear than this one.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
As for U.S. cities it would be Boston.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I saw a Prius poking at 45 on 3-lane I70 which is 70 mph with heavy truck traffic at 70 and up and vehicular traffic at 75-80. Yes it was 40 or 45. I was stunned.
So I guess I should point out for a while a lot of Buicks got traded for
PiousesPriuses. Now it's CRvs and Rav4s.2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Can't say one way or the other as I am not following it, just presenting another reason why he scuttled the agreement.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D