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driver100

tjc78 said:

We had my son’s fifth birthday a Nerf Gun battle place.... good times. Over ordered on Pizza for the party so gonna be eating it all weekend lol.
It was thirty people, so I figured 2.5 slices each and actually rounded down to 9. Guess I wasn’t thinking that almost half of that were 5 year olds. Oops.

Better to be over than under I always say. Also I always say about airports.....better to arrive 2 hours early that 15 minutes late.

ruking1

Salt is natural & sustainable!😎👍

imidazol97

Oxalic acid. Do not use metal container for mixing.

I see TSP can be used. Real trisodiumphosphate is available at Lowes in paint/cleaning aisle last time I checked. They also sell a fake TSP meant to replace it.



Trisodium Phosphate
1
Wear goggles and rubber gloves to protect your eyes and your hands. Trisodium phosphate is an irritant to your skin and eyes. It can also be harmful if inhaled or ingested.
2
Mix 1/2 cup of trisodium phosphate into 1/2 gallon of hot water until the trisodium phosphate has dissolved.
3
Pour enough of the solution onto the rust stain to fully cover it and leave it for about 15 minutes so that the tridsodium phosphate can penetrate the rust.
4
Scrub the area with a wire brush. Use a circular motion when scrubbing and apply firm pressure to the brush to loosen all of the rust within the concrete.
5
Rinse the trisodium solution away with clean water. Repeat the application of the solution and scrub once more if the rust hasn’t fully disappeared.


Oxalic Acid
1
Wear goggles and rubber gloves to protect your eyes and your hands. Oxalic acid is extremely caustic.
2
Mix 4 ounces of oxalic acid into a quart of water. You can buy oxalic acid in crystal or powder form at most paint stores.
3
Apply the solution over the stain with a mop and leave it to penetrate the concrete for about two hours.
4
Rinse the area with clean water and scrub the stain with a stiff brush. Repeat application of the oxalic acid solution if the stain isn’t fully removed. You may have to treat the area several times depending on the severity of the stain.
Lemon Juice or Vinegar
1
Pour undiluted lemon juice or vinegar over the rust stain. Make sure to cover all parts of the rust stain. Use caution when treating rust stains near grass or valuable plants. Undiluted, these liquids can damage or kill your plants.
2
Allow the lemon juice or vinegar to penetrate the surface for about 15 minutes. This gives it time to break down the rust stain, which makes scrubbing it away easier.
3
Scrub the area with a wire brush. Use a circular motion when scrubbing and apply firm pressure to the brush to loosen all of the rust within the concrete.
4
Rinse the lemon juice or vinegar away with clean water. Repeat application and scrubbing if the stain isn’t fully removed.

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

Oxalic acid. Do not use metal container for mixing.

I see TSP can be used. Real trisodiumphosphate is available at Lowes in paint/cleaning aisle last time I checked. They also sell a fake TSP meant to replace it.



Trisodium Phosphate
1
Wear goggles and rubber gloves to protect your eyes and your hands. Trisodium phosphate is an irritant to your skin and eyes. It can also be harmful if inhaled or ingested.
2
Mix 1/2 cup of trisodium phosphate into 1/2 gallon of hot water until the trisodium phosphate has dissolved.
3
Pour enough of the solution onto the rust stain to fully cover it and leave it for about 15 minutes so that the tridsodium phosphate can penetrate the rust.
4
Scrub the area with a wire brush. Use a circular motion when scrubbing and apply firm pressure to the brush to loosen all of the rust within the concrete.
5
Rinse the trisodium solution away with clean water. Repeat the application of the solution and scrub once more if the rust hasn’t fully disappeared.


Oxalic Acid
1
Wear goggles and rubber gloves to protect your eyes and your hands. Oxalic acid is extremely caustic.
2
Mix 4 ounces of oxalic acid into a quart of water. You can buy oxalic acid in crystal or powder form at most paint stores.
3
Apply the solution over the stain with a mop and leave it to penetrate the concrete for about two hours.
4
Rinse the area with clean water and scrub the stain with a stiff brush. Repeat application of the oxalic acid solution if the stain isn’t fully removed. You may have to treat the area several times depending on the severity of the stain.
Lemon Juice or Vinegar
1
Pour undiluted lemon juice or vinegar over the rust stain. Make sure to cover all parts of the rust stain. Use caution when treating rust stains near grass or valuable plants. Undiluted, these liquids can damage or kill your plants.
2
Allow the lemon juice or vinegar to penetrate the surface for about 15 minutes. This gives it time to break down the rust stain, which makes scrubbing it away easier.
3
Scrub the area with a wire brush. Use a circular motion when scrubbing and apply firm pressure to the brush to loosen all of the rust within the concrete.
4
Rinse the lemon juice or vinegar away with clean water. Repeat application and scrubbing if the stain isn’t fully removed.

WOW...TMI but I can't say I'm surprised that we'd be giving chemistry lessons in here.

jmonroe

tjc78

Thanks guys, once I get around to it I’ll let you know how it comes out.

jmonroe1

abacomike said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good.

I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting?

jmonroe

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

Thanks guys, once I get around to it I’ll let you know how it comes out.

I'm pretty confident that it will come out.

jmonroe

carnaught

Great day with the family enjoying our local Mecum Car Auction in Phoenix/Glendale. Staff were all very polite, congenial and really treated you like a friend. It was especially positive seeing and speaking with the CEO Dave Magers, Stephen Cox and “Chicken” George Boswell. Was not able to interact with Scott Hoke, John Kraman and Bill Stephens, as they were occupied, but I have no doubt I would have found them to be equally as friendly . They had some exceptional mid and late 50’s Eldorados among many great muscle cars. Overall impression was that it was extremely well done, and less snooty than Barrett Jackson. Thanks to my son, we had Media Passes. Next one I go to I will have bidding credentials.

stickguy

that sounds like fun. Maybe next year I will get to the one at Saratoga. Much smaller operation though.

ronsteve

I usually run PUG from Costco in the RDX. Usually it's about 30 cents per gallon less than most any other station around here. I'm still a bit of a skeptic knowing that the same engine and very similar tune in the Accord runs on 87, but as long as I have the membership and sometimes can get PUG for about the same price as RUG from any other top-tier, why not? Occasionally when I'm running low and Costco is too out of the way, I'll stop at one of the others, in which case I stick to top-tier brands but might use 87 or 89. Gives a new understanding of why they want to use "chained" CPI to calculate COLAs going forward.

MPG really stabilizing at 22-23 MPG (indicated 23.4 per the computer over the last ~2000 miles) in roughly 70/30 highway/city split. The Volvo had similar EPA numbers but got 24-25 real world, though almost half of the difference is odometer error (round trip to/from work is indicated at 40.2 miles in the RDX as opposed to 41.3 in the Volvo).

ronsteve

snakeweasel said:

berri said:

I've heard that in many places Costco fuel comes from Shell, but have no idea whether that is true or not. I know it does get very good ratings, which kind of goes with many of their other Kirkland products.

Costco likely gets their fuel from the nearest refinery as most stations do. Here Costco gets there from Citco.

Here in Louisville, Marathon essentially has a monopoly on the wholesale, but I think Valero trucks theirs in from the other direction. They don't follow the Marathon "gouge" pattern, but rather they gouge on the 89 and 93 grades so it doesn't help me much.

Remember even though most stations in a given area get their product from the same refinery each brand has its own additive/detergent package. Nobody knows whether Kirkland is actually Shell or its own thing, but at least we do know it's Top Tier.

ronsteve

henryn said:

driver100 said:

I always lose when I buy gas.....it always goes down in price right after I buy it.
RUG was $2.59 when I bought it on Wednesday, the next day it dropped back to $2.57.
I am out 22 cents on 11 gallons.

I have no idea what PUG costs....I use PUG but only go be the RUG price listed on the sign....that is probably a good way to rip us off......

That is indeed a bad idea, not checking the price on premium. The spread between RUG and PUG varies widely from station to station, and I do mean widely. The big name stations (Exxon, Chevron, etc) often charge 70 or 80 cents more for PUG over RUG. The HEB only charges about 30 to 33 cents more.

That 22 cents you lost could be a drop in the bucket compared to what you lost by not looking at the RUG - PUG price spread.

This!

In my area it's typically a 60 cent spread. Costco is 40-50 cents difference, which is what really gives them an advantage.

On the flipside, there's a Valero near me that would be tempting because they don't follow the pattern of nearby Marathon and Speedway (and I avoid those two at almost any cost) but I've seen Valero with as much as 95 cents diffrence between regular and premium.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

tjc78 said:

Since you guys know everything.... we had a nice patio poured last he backyard. We had a patio set that is supposed to be aluminum, but when we moved the chairs they poured out rusty water. Now I’ve got some nasty rust stains on the concrete. I’ve read lemon juice, white vinegar or store bought stuff. Anyone have a recommendation on what actually works?

The vinegar would be my choice. They say to leave it on longer for better cleaning. If that doesn’t work try a product called CLR.

I bet your furniture was aluminum but the bolts holding it together were iron.

I agree about the high carbon steel hardware causing the rust and I also agree with using vinegar. However, and this goes against all that is holy to you @oldfarmer50, but I have mixed vinegar with salt and had success with removing rust from concrete. The salt won't hurt the concrete because you are going to flood the area with water after the vinegar/salt solution has been applied.

Hard to believe but sometimes salt can be a good thing.

jmonroe

Noooooooooooooo! :@ :@ :@

oldfarmer50

carnaught said:

Great day with the family enjoying our local Mecum Car Auction in Phoenix/Glendale. Staff were all very polite, congenial and really treated you like a friend. It was especially positive seeing and speaking with the CEO Dave Magers, Stephen Cox and “Chicken” George Boswell. Was not able to interact with Scott Hoke, John Kraman and Bill Stephens, as they were occupied, but I have no doubt I would have found them to be equally as friendly . They had some exceptional mid and late 50’s Eldorados among many great muscle cars. Overall impression was that it was extremely well done, and less snooty than Barrett Jackson. Thanks to my son, we had Media Passes. Next one I go to I will have bidding credentials.

If I had the money I’d bring home a late 50s Chrysler 300. Someone in the know told me it’s usually cheaper to buy a fully restored classic rather than do it yourself. There’s a real excitement in a well done auction.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

that sounds like fun. Maybe next year I will get to the one at Saratoga. Much smaller operation though.

See you there. Wear your Edmunds t shirt so I can recognize you.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

Thanks guys, once I get around to it I’ll let you know how it comes out.

I'm pretty confident that it will come out.

jmonroe

Or the sidewalk might disintegrate entirely.
It would be easier to make a small nuclear device!

ab348

carnaught said:

Great day with the family enjoying our local Mecum Car Auction in Phoenix/Glendale. Staff were all very polite, congenial and really treated you like a friend.

If you are planning to bid, be very careful at Mecum to check out the vehicle very carefully and thoroughly beforehand. Last year there was a very miserable situation where they presented a VW 23-window bus as authentic when in reality it was something cobbled together from junkyards in Brazil/Indonesia/Mexico/somewhere, including fraudulent VIN. The buyer overpaid for it even if it was the real deal so when the truth was discovered shortly after taking delivery it got very messy. Mecum denied any responsibility of course but in the end the courts found in the buyers favor and they were forced to reverse the sale, something that they should have done right away after being informed of the fraud. The bus was then seized by the authorities.

Long thread, lots of info supplied by those in the hobby, resolution found on page 29:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=694683&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

that sounds like fun. Maybe next year I will get to the one at Saratoga. Much smaller operation though.

See you there. Wear your Edmunds t shirt so I can recognize you.

If I go you will recognize me in my Superman T-Shirt.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

tjc78 said:

Since you guys know everything.... we had a nice patio poured last he backyard. We had a patio set that is supposed to be aluminum, but when we moved the chairs they poured out rusty water. Now I’ve got some nasty rust stains on the concrete. I’ve read lemon juice, white vinegar or store bought stuff. Anyone have a recommendation on what actually works?

The vinegar would be my choice. They say to leave it on longer for better cleaning. If that doesn’t work try a product called CLR.

I bet your furniture was aluminum but the bolts holding it together were iron.

I agree about the high carbon steel hardware causing the rust and I also agree with using vinegar. However, and this goes against all that is holy to you @oldfarmer50, but I have mixed vinegar with salt and had success with removing rust from concrete. The salt won't hurt the concrete because you are going to flood the area with water after the vinegar/salt solution has been applied.

Hard to believe but sometimes salt can be a good thing.

jmonroe

Noooooooooooooo! :@ :@ :@

C'mon man, did I say to drive on your concrete patio while you were trying to get out the rust stains?

jmonroe

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

Noooooooooooooo! :@ :@ :@

All that salt seems to be raising your blood pressure.

bwia

tjc78 said:

Since you guys know everything.... we had a nice patio poured last he backyard. We had a patio set that is supposed to be aluminum, but when we moved the chairs they poured out rusty water. Now I’ve got some nasty rust stains on the concrete. I’ve read lemon juice, white vinegar or store bought stuff. Anyone have a recommendation on what actually works?

Try coke (Coca-Cola classic). It's great for removing metal rust, not sure if it is as effective on concrete though. Nonetheless, let us know if that works or just urban legend.

abacomike

tjc78 said:

Since you guys know everything.... we had a nice patio poured last he backyard. We had a patio set that is supposed to be aluminum, but when we moved the chairs they poured out rusty water. Now I’ve got some nasty rust stains on the concrete. I’ve read lemon juice, white vinegar or store bought stuff. Anyone have a recommendation on what actually works?

Pour a new patio - works like a charm!

abacomike

jmonroe1 said:

abacomike said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good.

I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting?

jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

graphicguy

In the last 3 cars I’ve owned, I’ve used nothing BUT Costco PUG. I go there once/week anyway. Their gas is rated “Top Tier” and is always a few pennies/gal to a few dimes/gal less than the el cheapo, no name stations.

I’ve never, ever had any sort of fuel related issues with any cars since I’ve been using Costco gas. And, over the years, I’ve probably saved hundreds of dollars per year in the process.

abacomike

ronsteve said:

snakeweasel said:

berri said:

I've heard that in many places Costco fuel comes from Shell, but have no idea whether that is true or not. I know it does get very good ratings, which kind of goes with many of their other Kirkland products.

Costco likely gets their fuel from the nearest refinery as most stations do. Here Costco gets there from Citco.

Here in Louisville, Marathon essentially has a monopoly on the wholesale, but I think Valero trucks theirs in from the other direction. They don't follow the Marathon "gouge" pattern, but rather they gouge on the 89 and 93 grades so it doesn't help me much.

Remember even though most stations in a given area get their product from the same refinery each brand has its own additive/detergent package. Nobody knows whether Kirkland is actually Shell or its own thing, but at least we do know it's Top Tier.

I had a long conversation with the gasoline pump manager at my local Costco a month or so back. I asked him what refinery Costco buys its gasoline from. His response was that gasoline arrives at Port Everglades adjacent to FLL airport from all the Gulf of Mexico refineries. When the gasoline is pumped into the tankers for delivery to gasoline retailers, a special blend of detergents is added during the pumping process by the wholesaler based upon the retailer's specifications. As an example, gasoline headed for Chevron retailers is infused with Techron. So I asked him if each load of gasoline delivered to Costco is identical to other loads of gasoline received from the same wholesaler. He said no - it all depends on the refinery the wholesaler purchased it from. So it is possible that one load of gasoline from a Shell refinery is slightly different than a load from a Mobil refinery - but all purchases of gasoline have minimum specifications when it comes to detergent additives - in other words, Costco contracts with a wholesaler to deliver gasoline to its warehouse stores that has specified additives that meet or exceed TopTier detergent standards.

Further, he told me that gasoline retailers in a specific geographic area all buy their gasoline from the same wholesaler. But each delivery has different additives based upon the retailer's specifications - detergents are added to the tankers filling up at the port for local deliveries.

driver100

Almost ready for the market, Canadian made, estimated cost $52000. What do you think Explorer, ready to trade in the F-150?

The Canadian arm of a company called Havelaar unveiled its Bison battery electric pickup

Launched in partnership with the University of Toronto, the Havelaar Bison features a dual-motor, all-wheel-drive powertrain that is designed to withstand Canada's cold weather and rough terrain. It uses an electronic vehicle dynamics management system, and is engineered to tackle steep off-road grades under a full load. It's built upon a carbon fiber-reinforced steel space frame, and Havelaar promises "class-leading" torsional stiffness.
The Bison's battery pack offers a driving range of 186 miles on a single charge. It provides 46 cubic feet of exterior cargo space, with another 18 cubic feet of lockable storage. Inside the cabin is a digital instrument panel, as well as a large, central touchscreen display reminiscent of that in a Tesla.

imidazol97

I think this has been discussed before. And I believe that's right for most areas. I saw a delivery slip for the tank truck delivering the gasoline two grades to the local fast market store. It showed the same additive "package" was dumped into the two tanks for PUG and RUG. Of course MUG is not a grade--it's a blend of the two grades from what I could tell long ago with about 1/3 PUG and 2/3 RUG.

At the area "port" where gasoline comes in by pipeline from the South, Texas maybe, there are two terminals. One with Marathon all over the entrance and the tanks. Across the road is an anonymous terminal also with tanks and pumping arrangements to put the product into the over-the-road delivery trucks.

explorerx4

@driver100,
186 miles? WOW.

My F150.

imidazol97

For those who don't want the ecological problems of disposing of batteries and electrical motor components and who don't want to use electricity that's actually made 85% from fossil fuels,

here's the solution--your own windmill generator for your vehicle. And it converts to give propulsion down the road when needed. It does double duty. What more could we ask.

driver100

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
186 miles? WOW.

My F150.

Yeh, but lots of people have F-150s, don't you want to be super cool and own a Bison?

And so what about going 440 miles on a tankful....with the Bison you can stay overnight in motels for 2 nights, and charge up, and take a nice leisurely trip.

berri

Imi - thought that picture was a redneck turbo charged pickup

explorerx4

@driver100,
447 is the range left after driving 353 miles. I forgot about your math 'skills'.

Mr_Shiftright

ruking1 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I wish we had some of those Chinese bullet trains. Those things haul! From Beijing to Shanghai takes about 4.5 hours to go 819 miles. That's about the same as Houston-Chicago or Phoenix San Francisco. They can regularly hit 217 mph top speed. $82 bucks for 2nd class ticket.

You and the former governor Moonbeam. The monies needed for “commercial completion” would bankrupt America, let alone CA state. “Fare box” revenues would not be even operationally sustainable.

Doesn't seem to have bankrupted the Chinese, and they are a much poorer country per capita than we are. As for "moonbeams", there's nothing spacey about looking to the future. You can't expect one lone state to carry the burdens and responsibilities of a nation. Should California have its own space program or army?

Of course, the Chinese government is subsidizing the whole thing. They couldn't charge enough per ticket to pay for any of this. But they aren't stupid. Rail networks like this unite the nation, geographically, politically and financially.

Let's face it. The era of private transportation (that is, the car) won't last forever. We can hear the swan song, even if it's 50 years away.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
186 miles? WOW.

My F150.

447 miles to empty on a half tank? Dual tanks or do you tow a tank trailer?

ruking1

Mr_Shiftright said:

ruking1 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I wish we had some of those Chinese bullet trains. Those things haul! From Beijing to Shanghai takes about 4.5 hours to go 819 miles. That's about the same as Houston-Chicago or Phoenix San Francisco. They can regularly hit 217 mph top speed. $82 bucks for 2nd class ticket.

You and the former governor Moonbeam. The monies needed for “commercial completion” would bankrupt America, let alone CA state. “Fare box” revenues would not be even operationally sustainable.

Doesn't seem to have bankrupted the Chinese, and they are a much poorer country per capita than we are. As for "moonbeams", there's nothing spacey about looking to the future. You can't expect one lone state to carry the burdens and responsibilities of a nation. Should California have its own space program or army?

Of course, the Chinese government is subsidizing the whole thing. They couldn't charge enough per ticket to pay for any of this. But they aren't stupid. Rail networks like this unite the nation, geographically, politically and financially.

Let's face it. The era of private transportation (that is, the car) won't last forever. We can hear the swan song, even if it's 50 years away.

Scale wise, the Chinese have a much greater row to hoe. Also to downplay the fact that American technology, logistics, etc., money’s 30 to 40 years ago were the real basis of China’s economic miracle. They also look ahead 100 years. They are unlike American politics that can barely look ahead 100 seconds. China’s gordian knot is how to replace America.

It is really redundant to say, but rail networks have long ago since united the nation, geographically, politically, and financially. The CEO’s in that drive WEST era/effort of old were considered the robber barons. Private transportation networks, i.e. roads, highway, which you seem to vilify are really the lynch pin of what makes America great.

Let me put it this way, I am absolutely familiar with how to get transportation monies. I’m no stranger to visioning & execution. Indeed not too many years ago, I was closely involved in getting $1.75 B in bike, roads & light rail monies in (Silicon Valley) Santa Clara, CA.

A small % of the money was used for the precursor studies to get BART ( Bay Area Rapid Transit) to the South Bay (San Jose, Santa Clara County) If there were no rail right of ways, this BART (generations old) project to San Jose could never get off the ground.

The real issue has always been that American politicians believe that MAGICALLY maintenance & monies are NEVER needed for all these projects.

Keep in mind that Obama close down the FL. space program, not that many years ago. He had to COLLUDE with Russia to supply the American space station that still had American astronauts in it.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
Just one factory 36 gallon tank.

houdini2

berri said:

Imi - thought that picture was a redneck turbo charged pickup

berri said:

Imi - thought that picture was a redneck turbo charged pickup

All of us rednecks thank you for implying that we could come up with something like that ! Looks like I am still stuttering.

ruking1

If the MB GLK 250BT had a 36 gallon tank, the range would be 1,296 to 1,350 miles. Given timing & annual miles fueling could be 14 times a year, rather than 33. 😜

Mr_Shiftright

My Mercedes diesel had a long-range fuel tank--I could squeeze just about 800 miles out of it. I drove from Provo UT to San Francisco on one tank but not in one day.

snakeweasel

ruking1 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I wish we had some of those Chinese bullet trains. Those things haul! From Beijing to Shanghai takes about 4.5 hours to go 819 miles. That's about the same as Houston-Chicago or Phoenix San Francisco. They can regularly hit 217 mph top speed. $82 bucks for 2nd class ticket.

You and the former governor Moonbeam. The monies needed for “commercial completion” would bankrupt America, let alone CA state. “Fare box” revenues would not be even operationally sustainable.

I do believe that Amtrak states that their trains can do 150 MPH with about half of their routes having trains that do exceed 100 MPH at times.

ruking1

snakeweasel said:

ruking1 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I wish we had some of those Chinese bullet trains. Those things haul! From Beijing to Shanghai takes about 4.5 hours to go 819 miles. That's about the same as Houston-Chicago or Phoenix San Francisco. They can regularly hit 217 mph top speed. $82 bucks for 2nd class ticket.

You and the former governor Moonbeam. The monies needed for “commercial completion” would bankrupt America, let alone CA state. “Fare box” revenues would not be even operationally sustainable.

I do believe that Amtrak states that their trains can do 150 MPH with about half of their routes having trains that do exceed 100 MPH at times.

🤣 Seattle, WA tried and on its’ maiden voyage had an accident; derailing. 😩

snakeweasel

berri said:

Sorry McSnakeweasel , didn't mean to pressure you Shamrock . Will it be Guinness or Jameson

Both.

One St. Paddys day I had those phoney foam rocks hanging at my desk no one got that they were sham rocks.

ruking1

Is SHAM Rocks a rapper? 😜

imidazol97

jmonroe1 said:

WOW...TMI but I can't say I'm surprised that we'd be giving chemistry lessons in here.
jmonroe

Three treatments to try.

Myself, I'd start with the oxalic acid. I don't think it will dissolve things as much as acetic acid in vinegar. Oxalic acid reacts with the iron oxide. Its best use is for removing rust stains from clothing. I have a jar of it out in the garage.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

Thanks guys, once I get around to it I’ll let you know how it comes out.

I'm pretty confident that it will come out.

jmonroe

Or the sidewalk might disintegrate entirely.
It would be easier to make a small nuclear device!

Oh great job there driver, now the NSA is watching us.

snakeweasel

abacomike said:

tjc78 said:

Since you guys know everything.... we had a nice patio poured last he backyard. We had a patio set that is supposed to be aluminum, but when we moved the chairs they poured out rusty water. Now I’ve got some nasty rust stains on the concrete. I’ve read lemon juice, white vinegar or store bought stuff. Anyone have a recommendation on what actually works?

Pour a new patio - works like a charm!

Or he could dye the patio a rust color.

driver100

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
447 is the range left after driving 353 miles. I forgot about your math 'skills'.

Thanks for pointing that out....guess you would need a few more days to make that trip in the Bison.

snakeweasel

graphicguy said:

In the last 3 cars I’ve owned, I’ve used nothing BUT Costco PUG. I go there once/week anyway. Their gas is rated “Top Tier” and is always a few pennies/gal to a few dimes/gal less than the el cheapo, no name stations.

I’ve never, ever had any sort of fuel related issues with any cars since I’ve been using Costco gas. And, over the years, I’ve probably saved hundreds of dollars per year in the process.

As long as it's a well known brand I'll use it and I also never had a fuel related issue.

driver100

Mr_Shiftright said:

ruking1 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I wish we had some of those Chinese bullet trains. Those things haul! From Beijing to Shanghai takes about 4.5 hours to go 819 miles. That's about the same as Houston-Chicago or Phoenix San Francisco. They can regularly hit 217 mph top speed. $82 bucks for 2nd class ticket.

You and the former governor Moonbeam. The monies needed for “commercial completion” would bankrupt America, let alone CA state. “Fare box” revenues would not be even operationally sustainable.

Doesn't seem to have bankrupted the Chinese, and they are a much poorer country per capita than we are. As for "moonbeams", there's nothing spacey about looking to the future. You can't expect one lone state to carry the burdens and responsibilities of a nation. Should California have its own space program or army?

Of course, the Chinese government is subsidizing the whole thing. They couldn't charge enough per ticket to pay for any of this. But they aren't stupid. Rail networks like this unite the nation, geographically, politically and financially.

Let's face it. The era of private transportation (that is, the car) won't last forever. We can hear the swan song, even if it's 50 years away.

It doesn't bankrupt China because labor is so cheap, and when you have that many people paying for a common element it is cheaper per person. Also, there is some big serious money in China too. If you go to China you will see in some ways there standards are pretty good, especially infrastructure....for one thing a lot of it is new so doesn't have to be rebuilt.

driver100

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
447 is the range left after driving 353 miles. I forgot about your math 'skills'.

btw...it wasn't my math skills in question....it was the tiny numbers that tell you how many miles you have driven.