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ruking1

Mr_Shiftright said:

My Mercedes diesel had a long-range fuel tank--I could squeeze just about 800 miles out of it. I drove from Provo UT to San Francisco on one tank but not in one day.

Since childhood, I have always loved road trips! As a small kid, 500 miles in a day was the max. I wish my father was still around & we could take another 6,000, 9,000 to 12,000 miles “see as many states & CN provinces as possible again” road trip.We didn’t go to Alaska through Canada because that road was mostly gravel & he didn’t want to go that slow. The (26.4 gal) 845 mile range of a 2012 VW Touareg TDI would probably have tickled his fancy. Diesel synthetic oils robustness, which can allow up to 30,000 miles OCI, means we would not need an oil change on the 12,000 miles or less trip. For sure, we’d would need 3 tire rotations.

Traveling has been made really cush. GPS, WiFi, cell phones, iPads are light years AHEAD of Dad’s early car phone adoption, about the size of POTUS’S nuclear codes case. We navigated mostly by CSAAA maps & tour books. One can now make, change or cancel hotel reservations from the car, shop for prices: even target where you want to rest, eat, fuel, etc.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

Thanks guys, once I get around to it I’ll let you know how it comes out.

I'm pretty confident that it will come out.

jmonroe

Or the sidewalk might disintegrate entirely.
It would be easier to make a small nuclear device!

Oh great job there driver, now the NSA is watching us.

Well, the IRS is already following somebody here anyway.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
186 miles? WOW.

My F150.

Yeh, but lots of people have F-150s, don't you want to be super cool and own a Bison?

And so what about going 440 miles on a tankful....with the Bison you can stay overnight in motels for 2 nights, and charge up, and take a nice leisurely trip.

Nope that 440 miles to empty on a half tank of gas. Giving that it's saying he is averaging 23.8 MPG that give him about a 36 gallon tank.

explorerx4

Here was my redneck truck, which had the same size tank.
That includes pulling a trailer on the outbound trip.

ruking1

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

ruking1 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I wish we had some of those Chinese bullet trains. Those things haul! From Beijing to Shanghai takes about 4.5 hours to go 819 miles. That's about the same as Houston-Chicago or Phoenix San Francisco. They can regularly hit 217 mph top speed. $82 bucks for 2nd class ticket.

You and the former governor Moonbeam. The monies needed for “commercial completion” would bankrupt America, let alone CA state. “Fare box” revenues would not be even operationally sustainable.

Doesn't seem to have bankrupted the Chinese, and they are a much poorer country per capita than we are. As for "moonbeams", there's nothing spacey about looking to the future. You can't expect one lone state to carry the burdens and responsibilities of a nation. Should California have its own space program or army?

Of course, the Chinese government is subsidizing the whole thing. They couldn't charge enough per ticket to pay for any of this. But they aren't stupid. Rail networks like this unite the nation, geographically, politically and financially.

Let's face it. The era of private transportation (that is, the car) won't last forever. We can hear the swan song, even if it's 50 years away.

It doesn't bankrupt China because labor is so cheap, and when you have that many people paying for a common element it is cheaper per person. Also, there is some big serious money in China too. If you go to China you will see in some ways there standards are pretty good, especially infrastructure....for one thing a lot of it is new so doesn't have to be rebuilt.

At the start of all this, (decades ago) I had read that $220 USD was the average yearly Chinese (farmers) income. Some may/not understand that one goal of the Chinese government was to get farmers off their lands. So given the artificial American 2,080 yearly hours of work, that’s .11 cents an hour. Anything over that, tall cotton?

oldfarmer50

imidazol97 said:

jmonroe1 said:

WOW...TMI but I can't say I'm surprised that we'd be giving chemistry lessons in here.
jmonroe

Three treatments to try.

Myself, I'd start with the oxalic acid. I don't think it will dissolve things as much as acetic acid in vinegar. Oxalic acid reacts with the iron oxide. Its best use is for removing rust stains from clothing. I have a jar of it out in the garage.

But won’t that give your concrete gout?

fintail

My E250 has a 21 gallon tank and easily hits 40+ mpg on the highway. 800 miles is a cinch.

Mr_Shiftright said:

My Mercedes diesel had a long-range fuel tank--I could squeeze just about 800 miles out of it. I drove from Provo UT to San Francisco on one tank but not in one day.

fintail

Public transit shouldn't be required to run in the black. Such requirements seem to be an American concept, more of the "self made" fairytale spread as a distraction by those who were born on third base and act like they hit a triple, as economic mobility continues to dwindle and the socio-economic chasm flies past pre-depression levels. This will make a lovely future.

I live in an area where a couple prior lucky/oblivious generations kicked the light rail can down the road, but now it is needed dearly. It is being built, on schedule, but is insanely expensive. I still don't mind helping pay for it, as it will be worth it once it is here.

The Chinese seem to have a much longer term vision than our (as a nation) fixation on quarterly profits and the next paycheck.

Mr_Shiftright said:

Doesn't seem to have bankrupted the Chinese, and they are a much poorer country per capita than we are. As for "moonbeams", there's nothing spacey about looking to the future. You can't expect one lone state to carry the burdens and responsibilities of a nation. Should California have its own space program or army?

Of course, the Chinese government is subsidizing the whole thing. They couldn't charge enough per ticket to pay for any of this. But they aren't stupid. Rail networks like this unite the nation, geographically, politically and financially.

Let's face it. The era of private transportation (that is, the car) won't last forever. We can hear the swan song, even if it's 50 years away.

Mr_Shiftright

fintail said:

My E250 has a 21 gallon tank and easily hits 40+ mpg on the highway. 800 miles is a cinch.

Mr_Shiftright said:

My Mercedes diesel had a long-range fuel tank--I could squeeze just about 800 miles out of it. I drove from Provo UT to San Francisco on one tank but not in one day.

Yes but you don't get the smell and the noise for all that efficiency. Also you don't have to deal with range anxiety like I did----not mileage range, Mountain range. That Benz could barely crawl at 10,000 feet.

ruking1

“Public transit shouldn't be required to run in the black. Such requirements seem to be an American concept, more of the "self made" fairytale spread as a distraction by those who were born on third base and act like they hit a triple, as economic mobility continues to dwindle and the socio-economic chasm flies past pre-depression levels. This will make a lovely future.

I live in an area where a couple prior lucky/oblivious generations kicked the light rail can down the road, but now it is needed dearly. It is being built, on schedule, but is insanely expensive. I still don't mind helping pay for it, as it will be worth it once it is here.

The Chinese seem to have a much longer term vision than our (as a nation) fixation on quarterly profits and the next paycheck”...

Some entitled/pampered gens are brought up on T ball where they don’t keep score! I’d hazard a guess ones’ job bosses are keeping “score” on one. Indeed if one is a part of management of ones company, one is keeping score on employees ? So yeah, stop at the “ fairytailors” already?

So it’s good ones’ entitled gen & those after are paying & paying & paying for it. One knows what they say about the Kings Roads, no matter whose paying for them! ?

fintail

You are right, the ones after the most entitled and oblivious in history are the ones left with the bill. You are lucky we are so generous.

Fairytales. You didn't build that

ruking1 said:

Some entitled/pampered gens are brought up on T ball where they don’t keep score! I’d hazard a guess ones’ job bosses are keeping “score” on one. Indeed if one is a part of management of ones company, one is keeping score on employees ? So yeah, stop at the “ fairytailors” already?

So it’s good ones’ entitled gen & those after are paying & paying & paying for it. One knows what they say about the Kings Roads, no matter whose paying for them! ?

ruking1

Mr_Shiftright said:

fintail said:

My E250 has a 21 gallon tank and easily hits 40+ mpg on the highway. 800 miles is a cinch.

Mr_Shiftright said:

My Mercedes diesel had a long-range fuel tank--I could squeeze just about 800 miles out of it. I drove from Provo UT to San Francisco on one tank but not in one day.

Yes but you don't get the smell and the noise for all that efficiency. Also you don't have to deal with range anxiety like I did----not mileage range, Mountain range. That Benz could barely crawl at 10,000 feet.

One’s gotta love the twin TURBO’s 2.1 L TDI with 369 # ft torque! It can easily go highway upgrade @ 90 mph @ 5000 ft to 7,300 + that I’m acquainted @ 36 to 37.5 mpg. But I do miss the 406 # ft on a 2012 VW Touareg TDI, even if it got 32/33 mpg with like models 19 mpg PUG.

ruking1

fintail said:

You are right, the ones after the most entitled and oblivious in history are the ones left with the bill. You are lucky we are so generous.

Fairytales. You didn't build that

ruking1 said:

Some entitled/pampered gens are brought up on T ball where they don’t keep score! I’d hazard a guess ones’ job bosses are keeping “score” on one. Indeed if one is a part of management of ones company, one is keeping score on employees ? So yeah, stop at the “ fairytailors” already?

So it’s good ones’ entitled gen & those after are paying & paying & paying for it. One knows what they say about the Kings Roads, no matter whose paying for them! ?

Well it’s pretty simple, even though one chooses to ignore it. WA’s (one’s) “older”political leadership & those that elected them didn’t think they/ones all needed it @ the time and therefore did NOT build it. So no, it’s not about that gen/s handing to one’s ENTITLED generation and those following’s generosities. The entitled gen & up & coming are the ones that say they/you need it, .... connect the dots. Now I understand that ones’ upset that grand /mommy’s and grand/daddy’s didn’t hand a $B’s transportation systems on a plate on down ....

Fairytailors”, stop twisting.

No I didn’t build WA’s., nor CA’s. I made that very clear! Now it’s being twisted to say I said I built it? Sorry, they are your lies! Stop twisting.

snakeweasel

fintail said:

The Chinese seem to have a much longer term vision than our (as a nation) fixation on quarterly profits and the next paycheck.

That's because the chinese have single party rule, the same people with the same agenda will be running that country for the foreseeable future. While here in the U.S. we have two main parties that can switch who's in power biannually. 

snakeweasel

A sure sign of spring, I spent a considerable amount of time cleaning up the back yard.

And another sign that spring is just around the corner.

explorerx4

@ruking1,
369 #, 412 #, that's some minor league stuff. My redneck has 470 #
Hopefully everyone understands this is all in fun.

ruking1

F150 = Minor league mpg 2 @ 90 mph? 😱

explorerx4

@ruking1,
No, 16+ floored for 6 hours. I let one of my BIL's who has the coveted LEO 'Professional Courtesy tin', drive it back on a road trip.
I didn't want to know how fast we were going.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

The Chinese seem to have a much longer term vision than our (as a nation) fixation on quarterly profits and the next paycheck.

That's because the chinese have single party rule, the same people with the same agenda will be running that country for the foreseeable future. While here in the U.S. we have two main parties that can switch who's in power biannually. 

Easy to build anything where there is no real concept of private property and you have a few million political prisoners to shovel the dirt.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

A sure sign of spring, I spent a considerable amount of time cleaning up the back yard.

And another sign that spring is just around the corner.

lol....but it looks like you used some of this on that brick wall:

explorerx4

Have an RV show on the TV.
I's about the Winnebago brand.
They showed a standee of the founder John K Hanson with a comment bubble.
"You can't take SEX, BOOZE or WEEKENDS away from the AMERICAN PEOPLE." HAHA

imidazol97

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

jmonroe1 said:

WOW...TMI but I can't say I'm surprised that we'd be giving chemistry lessons in here.
jmonroe

Three treatments to try.

Myself, I'd start with the oxalic acid. I don't think it will dissolve things as much as acetic acid in vinegar. Oxalic acid reacts with the iron oxide. Its best use is for removing rust stains from clothing. I have a jar of it out in the garage.

But won’t that give your concrete gout?

Do you mean "grout"? LOL

ruking1

explorerx4 said:

@ruking1,
No, 16+ floored for 6 hours. I let one of my BIL's who has the coveted LEO 'Professional Courtesy tin', drive it back on a road trip.
I didn't want to know how fast we were going.

Your BIL, I’m sure knows the drill so he’s not likely be be stopped anyway. Around here, 75 mph is SLOW for PU trucks towing, even as the speed limit is 55 mph. (65/70 mph speed limit cars) On Interstate Highway 5, the majority of traffic moves along, I’d guess 80/85 mph.

explorerx4

My BIL has been stopped plenty of times, just never cited.

Mr_Shiftright

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

The Chinese seem to have a much longer term vision than our (as a nation) fixation on quarterly profits and the next paycheck.

That's because the chinese have single party rule, the same people with the same agenda will be running that country for the foreseeable future. While here in the U.S. we have two main parties that can switch who's in power biannually. 

Yes, brutal dictatorships can be very effective--until they aren't.

Any massive train project will have to come from the government. It's like a moon shot. No "investor" is going to stake one unless there's some kind of payoff. As you say, the government doesn't need a monetary payoff.

Now, if we needed high speed trains to fight a war, say, that would be a motivation.

jmonroe1

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

abacomike said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good.

I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting?

jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it.

jmonroe

abacomike

jmonroe1 said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good. I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting? jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it. jmonroe

So your rationale is that, “...I already gave at the office...”!  Fair enough - you’re on your way to conversion once you learn that it’s “Mogen David”! 

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

The Chinese seem to have a much longer term vision than our (as a nation) fixation on quarterly profits and the next paycheck.

That's because the chinese have single party rule, the same people with the same agenda will be running that country for the foreseeable future. While here in the U.S. we have two main parties that can switch who's in power biannually. 

Easy to build anything where there is no real concept of private property and you have a few million political prisoners to shovel the dirt.

That reminds me of a mayor in the city of Pittsburgh long ago being asked why he didn't authorize the building of a tunnel that some people thought was needed. He said, "it's not as easy as some people think. We don't live in China". When asked what China had to do with Pittsburgh, he said, "if they want a tunnel in China, they put a group of Chinese on one side of a mountain and another group of Chinese on the other side. Both groups are armed with picks and shovels. They blow a whistle and both groups start to dig. If they meet, they have a tunnel, if not they have two. We can't build like that around here." Sorta made sense to me and I was only about 12 years old at the time.

jmonroe

ruking1

explorerx4 said:

My BIL has been stopped plenty of times, just never cited.

Well, I don’t know what to say.😎

ruking1

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

The Chinese seem to have a much longer term vision than our (as a nation) fixation on quarterly profits and the next paycheck.

That's because the chinese have single party rule, the same people with the same agenda will be running that country for the foreseeable future. While here in the U.S. we have two main parties that can switch who's in power biannually. 

Easy to build anything where there is no real concept of private property and you have a few million political prisoners to shovel the dirt.

That reminds me of a mayor in the city of Pittsburgh long ago being asked why he didn't authorize the building of a tunnel that some people thought was needed. He said, "it's not as easy as some people think. We don't live in China". When asked what China had to do with Pittsburgh, he said, "if they want a tunnel in China, they put a group of Chinese on one side of a mountain and another group of Chinese on the other side. Both groups are armed with picks and shovels. They blow a whistle and both groups start to dig. If they meet, they have a tunnel, if not they have two. We can't build like that around here." Sorta made sense to me and I was only about 12 years old at the time.

jmonroe

That mayor is as stupid as bricks. At least bricks are building materials. The thing he said was what was done building the US railroad in the US west. They also used explosives.

driver100

They blow a whistle and both groups start to dig. If they meet, they have a tunnel, if not they have two. We can't build like that around here." Sorta made sense to me and I was only about 12 years old at the time.
jmonroe

We are talking China where you do what you are told....no unions btw. We saw people cleaning a modern highway with a tree branch. Our 100 passenger cruise ship on the Yangtze had 101 staff....labor is cheap. Once they decide to do it it gets done....none of this lowest bidder stuff.

jmonroe1

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good.

I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting?

jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it.

jmonroe

So your rationale is that, “...I already gave at the office...”!  Fair enough - you’re on your way to conversion once you learn that it’s “Mogen David”! 

Damn, it looks like I might not make it afterall.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

They blow a whistle and both groups start to dig. If they meet, they have a tunnel, if not they have two. We can't build like that around here." Sorta made sense to me and I was only about 12 years old at the time.
jmonroe

We are talking China where you do what you are told....no unions btw. We saw people cleaning a modern highway with a tree branch. Our 100 passenger cruise ship on the Yangtze had 101 staff....labor is cheap. Once they decide to do it it gets done....none of this lowest bidder stuff.

I would say if you are sending people out to sweep a highway with tree branches you are the lowest bidder.

stickguy

it is like back in the depression, when they had to public works projects to give unemployed people something useful to do. Just with millions more people to keep occupied!

abacomike

jmonroe1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good. I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting? jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it. jmonroe

So your rationale is that, “...I already gave at the office...”!  Fair enough - you’re on your way to conversion once you learn that it’s “Mogen David”! 

Damn, it looks like I might not make it afterall. jmonroe

Doubtful, to be sure! 

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good.

I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting?

jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it.

jmonroe

So your rationale is that, “...I already gave at the office...”!  Fair enough - you’re on your way to conversion once you learn that it’s “Mogen David”! 

Damn, it looks like I might not make it afterall.

jmonroe

I did it the easy way, my maternal grandmother was Jewish.

abacomike

ruking1 said:

fintail said:

The Chinese seem to have a much longer term vision than our (as a nation) fixation on quarterly profits and the next paycheck.

That's because the chinese have single party rule, the same people with the same agenda will be running that country for the foreseeable future. While here in the U.S. we have two main parties that can switch who's in power biannually. 

Easy to build anything where there is no real concept of private property and you have a few million political prisoners to shovel the dirt.

That reminds me of a mayor in the city of Pittsburgh long ago being asked why he didn't authorize the building of a tunnel that some people thought was needed. He said, "it's not as easy as some people think. We don't live in China". When asked what China had to do with Pittsburgh, he said, "if they want a tunnel in China, they put a group of Chinese on one side of a mountain and another group of Chinese on the other side. Both groups are armed with picks and shovels. They blow a whistle and both groups start to dig. If they meet, they have a tunnel, if not they have two. We can't build like that around here." Sorta made sense to me and I was only about 12 years old at the time. jmonroe

That mayor is as stupid as bricks. At least bricks are building materials. The thing he said was what was done building the US railroad in the US west. They also used explosives.

Explosives that the Chinese invented?

snakeweasel

I have a question for the all knowing forum. What are your opinions of lasik surgery?

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good. I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting? jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it. jmonroe

So your rationale is that, “...I already gave at the office...”!  Fair enough - you’re on your way to conversion once you learn that it’s “Mogen David”! 

Damn, it looks like I might not make it afterall. jmonroe

I did it the easy way, my maternal grandmother was Jewish.

The only way you could be Jewish is if your mother was Jewish.  Stretching a point or two, that made your mother Jewish and thus, you really are Jewish.  Welcome to the flock.  As for jmonroe, he hasn’t got a chance except to convert! 

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good.

I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting?

jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it.

jmonroe

So your rationale is that, “...I already gave at the office...”!  Fair enough - you’re on your way to conversion once you learn that it’s “Mogen David”! 

Damn, it looks like I might not make it afterall.

jmonroe

I did it the easy way, my maternal grandmother was Jewish.

It's probably too late for her to adopt me, huh ?

jmonroe

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

I have a question for the all knowing forum. What are your opinions of lasik surgery?

I did research on the procedure a few years ago.  Then I realized I looked better wearing glasses and decided against it.

All kidding aside, the procedure works great - but it’s all about who does the procedure and where it’s done.  I have heard horror stories about eye infections as well as botched surgeries because the procedure was done by an ophthalmologist who got her degree from a school in Central America.  Just research the ophthalmologist as well as the clinic.

abacomike

jmonroe1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good. I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting? jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it. jmonroe

So your rationale is that, “...I already gave at the office...”!  Fair enough - you’re on your way to conversion once you learn that it’s “Mogen David”! 

Damn, it looks like I might not make it afterall. jmonroe

I did it the easy way, my maternal grandmother was Jewish.

It's probably too late for her to adopt me, huh ? jmonroe

Adoptions don’t count!  Your mother has to be Jewish.  

stickguy

snakeweasel said:

I have a question for the all knowing forum. What are your opinions of lasik surgery?

my son had it last year, and loved it. His eyes were relatively normal for someone that needed glasses (no big astigmatisms or other weirdness). He got tired of glasses and contacts, so took the plunge (he was 27). went perfectly, and his vision is great, no side effects. Sample size of 1, but he recommends it to everyone now.

the technology for this has changed so much it is light years better than when it first started years ago.

stickguy

oh, 110% agree with Mike's point. Research the facility and doctor carefully. My son ended up with one of the top guys in the state. And definitely not a procedure I would shop based solely on price!

snakeweasel

abacomike said:

snakeweasel said:

I have a question for the all knowing forum. What are your opinions of lasik surgery?

I did research on the procedure a few years ago.  Then I realized I looked better wearing glasses and decided against it.

All kidding aside, the procedure works great - but it’s all about who does the procedure and where it’s done.  I have heard horror stories about eye infections as well as botched surgeries because the procedure was done by an ophthalmologist who got her degree from a school in Central America.  Just research the ophthalmologist as well as the clinic.

I understand looking better wearing glasses, the more my face is blocked the better I look too.

We have new and better vision insurance now here at work that will cover part of the cost so I am going to go on for the consultation and decide from there.

suydam

Re lasik surgery. What’s to have an opinion on? All 3 of my kids did it years ago and they all have great vision. It’s a pretty routine procedure. As with any medical procedure researching a good doctor is key. I had the old people’s version 3 years ago — laser cataract surgery — and the results are incredible. After a lifetime of being blind as a bat, I now see without glasses.

jmonroe1

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

abacomike said:

jmonroe1 said:

Happy St. Patrick’s Day tomorrow to our Irish brethren here on this thread.  Tonight I was invited to a friend’s house for his annual “corned beef and cabbage” dinner with lots of stout being served.  He is an amazing cook, however even with the use of DNA testing, he is probably more indigenous Native American than he is Irish, that’s for sure. 

In any case, enjoy the day, everyone.

Thanks but I unknowingly screwed up today. I totally forgot this was St. Patrick's day and we decided not to go out to dinner tonight so we stayed home and ate at the @jmonroe deli. Had a great corned beef sandwich on some pretty good marble rye bread with tasty brown mustard, a nice kosher pickle and a few oven baked fries. I can't remember the last time we did this at home. I know, that's more Jewish than Irish but it was soooo good.

I have a question for my kosher poster buddies. Is this a good start at converting?

jmonroe

You're not even close, according to my research. Start your conversion with circumcision. If you get past that, the rest is easy! :

Nope, that ain't gonna happen again. No man should be asked to give twice. The way I see it, all that should be required is some Holy Water. Well, in this case some Mogan David wine but that's it.

jmonroe

So your rationale is that, “...I already gave at the office...”!  Fair enough - you’re on your way to conversion once you learn that it’s “Mogen David”! 

Damn, it looks like I might not make it afterall.

jmonroe

I did it the easy way, my maternal grandmother was Jewish.

It's probably too late for her to adopt me, huh ?

jmonroe

Adoptions don’t count!  Your mother has to be Jewish.  



Hey, how about this. After my Mother died and my Brothers and I were going through her things we found our Mothers birth certificate. Since I was the oldest son my Brothers thought I should have it. I still have it. So, what if I changed her last name and religion. She damn sure wouldn't know or care about it now.

jmonroe

qbrozen

I had lasik done maybe 8 or so years ago. It is a tossup. I appreciate not dealing with glasses, but I have to deal with some tradeoffs. My night vision went to hell and never recovered, despite them saying it would. Headlight glare at night is brutal. My reading vision also decreased. I am unable to focus on things that are too close. That has gotten progressively worse as I age, as would be expected, but it is far worse now than it should be for a 45-yr-old, IMHO. 

suydam

I’ve got news for you. You don’t have to be Jewish to eat at a deli.

fintail

I dunno, looking at American socio-economic trends that seem to remain the same over the past few decades no matter who is in office, the difference between those parties might just be a masquerade.

snakeweasel said:

That's because the chinese have single party rule, the same people with the same agenda will be running that country for the foreseeable future. While here in the U.S. we have two main parties that can switch who's in power biannually.