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driver100

Lots of youtube videos of C63's reaching 300 kms per hour or about 188 mph. This one is 27 seconds....there are others,
https://youtu.be/kcTmnH1HOlU

driver100

or this one....2 minutes.
https://youtu.be/C2NneytKpVA
He was on a highway that is in excellent condition, at least 3 maybe 4 lanes going in each direction at that point. The speed limit is either 65 or 75 mph at that point. It was 10 p.m. and there wasn't much traffic at that time.

stickguy

for the 308KM guy, probably better that they clocked him at such an absurd speed. Gives them plausible deniability! Can claim that the car couldn't do it, so the reading must be wrong, and if it is wrong, impossible to know for sure how fast really going. So logical result would be a plea bargain to something less draconian. But now that the incident is famous, might be harder to follow logic.

ab348

Police seem to love issuing "stunting" (what a dumb name) tickets up here now that most provinces have adopted similar laws. The penalties are usually pretty draconian - several thousand dollars in fines, long license suspensions, and I'm not sure what they do with the vehicles, but they always seize them for at least a while. They always seem to issue a press release every time as well.

cdnpinhead

Waving one's stuff in the air appears to be frowned on by the gendarmes in this context, though it works quite well in other venues. Gotta love testosterone.

fintail

I got the fintail just past an indicated 100 way back in the day. Transmission cooling line broke later that afternoon, car taught me a lesson

ronsteve said:

One of my more ill advised stints was back in the late 90s in my Saturn, when I tagged onto the back of 3 much more capable cars and cruised for a few minutes at 105-110 mph. It was just right to stay out of the limiter which was 112.

fintail

I don't think anyone doubts a C63 can hit that speed, but it would take the right road and the right (non stock) car. I suppose that's maybe no less likely than the radar being used correctly. I just can't be optimistic though, given the almost identical speed claim near to me that given my knowledge of that road, seems pretty wild.

My old E55 had the 155 governor as well - I had read it was good for around 175-180 de-governed, and it was a less powerful car than the C63 (but possibly understated). I performed almost no mods to that car though, but I will say it pulled pretty hard beyond 60. Funny, the E wagon is just as fast - on paper anyway.

dino001

Current most US-based German cars have 130 mph governorns, usually bumped up to 150 if the car has sports suspension package. Special sport models, like AMG, M or RS may have their own rules, though and I'm sure there are plenty of places you can reflash your CPU to remove the gorvernor, if it's there.

300+ kph is definitely an absurd speed for public roads with stock tires, even those on AMG model. Let alone a teenager driving it, which should result in long driver license suspension and perhaps many hours of community service, preferably at trauma hospital unit. I probably wouldn't imprison them, but I would make their life quite miserable for at least couple of years.

graphicguy

imidazol97 said:

graphicguy said:

We're looking for places to go out to this weekend as restaurants that have outdoor seating are going to start serving again.

I hope it's a lot warmer at night than it has been the last few nights if you go for outdoor seating. LOL

I am anxious to actually sit down and be served in a restaurant.

@imidazol97 ....we’re looking around to see A) who has an outdoor dining area, and one that has some sort of umbrella tables or awning as it’s supposed to rain a bit, as of right now.

Looking at the predictions, 70º+ around here this weekend. We’ll see.

@driver100 saw your original statement about adding the Stinger to my siggy. I’ve tried several times. I change the signature in my profile, but it doesn’t show up when I post. Who knows? I quit trying. I may forever have an Acura TLX as long as I post here.

driver100

graphicguy said:

imidazol97 said:

graphicguy said:

We're looking for places to go out to this weekend as restaurants that have outdoor seating are going to start serving again.

I hope it's a lot warmer at night than it has been the last few nights if you go for outdoor seating. LOL

I am anxious to actually sit down and be served in a restaurant.

@driver100 saw your original statement about adding the Stinger to my siggy. I’ve tried several times. I change the signature in my profile, but it doesn’t show up when I post. Who knows? I quit trying. I may forever have an Acura TLX as long as I post here.

Oh, OK GG. Just add it at the end of each post....instead of like JMonroe say 2019 Kia Stinger!
I guess that is one reason you have to keep the TLX.

stickguy

I know there are 2 places you can add cars. One ends up in the signature line

venture

stickguy said:

I know there are 2 places you can add cars. One ends up in the signature line

Yes. And it's not as obvious as it should be if I remember correctly. It's to the left of the easy place.

Signature settings.

ab348

Pictures of the 20201 S-Class M-B here, supposedly:

Link to post on New Car Spotter topic here

graphicguy

Well...wouldn't you know it. I just tried updating my siggy just now and it worked. Halleluja!

driver100

graphicguy said:

Well...wouldn't you know it. I just tried updating my siggy just now and it worked. Halleluja!

That's better!

stickguy

Getting a couple estimates this week to modernize our deck. After 27 years the wood is a bit tired, and it’s overdue for cleaning and restaining. Big deck some I’m sure the number will give me heart failure, but figured good time to find out. Since we seem to be permanently house bound. And I’m done car shopping for a couple years!

ab348

stickguy said:

And I’m done car shopping for a couple years!

Famous last words. :laughing:

driver100

stickguy said:

Big deck some I’m sure the number will give me heart failure, but figured good time to find out.!

Could have bought a nice used car for the cost of ours.....almost enough to buy a 2014 C250.

andres3

roadburner said:

Gone But Not Forgotten...
Speaking of former folks who posted at Edmunds, here are some of the funniest(the names have been omitted to protect the ignorant):

1. The Lincoln LS board was blessed with an EE who thought he knew everything about cars- and in actuality knew next to nothing. He claimed that a V6 was superior to an inline six and that the only cars that needed periodic brake fluid changes were cars with defective braking systems.
2. On the Jeep Liberty topic there was a guy who claimed switching to a K&N filter would net you 3-5 additional mpg. When a couple of people followed his sage advice and noticed no difference he got really bent out of shape- to the point that he was not only banned but that ALL of his prior messages were also deleted.
3. The X3 topic had a chronic complainer, but when pressed he couldn't articulate what the problem was- shift quality, ride, throttle response- he couldn't(or wouldn't) say. He used the same username to whine on a couple of other X3 specific web pages. A person who shall remain nameless tricked him into believing he was discussing his X3 issues with a representative of BMW NA. Too funny.

I'd tend to think lowly of someone on the Lincoln LS board to begin with. I'd think even lower of someone dumb enough to own a Jeep Liberty (no offense to anyone here, as I am biased against Chrysler Corp.).

andres3

dino001 said:

Current most US-based German cars have 130 mph governorns, usually bumped up to 150 if the car has sports suspension package. Special sport models, like AMG, M or RS may have their own rules, though and I'm sure there are plenty of places you can reflash your CPU to remove the gorvernor, if it's there.

300+ kph is definitely an absurd speed for public roads with stock tires, even those on AMG model. Let alone a teenager driving it, which should result in long driver license suspension and perhaps many hours of community service, preferably at trauma hospital unit. I probably wouldn't imprison them, but I would make their life quite miserable for at least couple of years.

I think those punishments should be reserved for left lane campers/impeders, or perhaps those youngsters that cause their first collision. In the hopes that they might avoid creating a second collision.

andres3

driver100 said:

kyfdx said:

Not only that, if you could seem how much time it would take to get from 150-190 MPH, you'd know it was BS.

You think the 191 mph in the C 63 is B.S.? It has been on every newscast.....and it had to register on the radar. Not saying the whole thing could be a mistake, but I would say an 80% chance it is real. I don't know about the Corvette, but if this story about the C63 is fake........there will be a big uproar about the police not doing their job properly, and I can see lawsuits.

Radar is ancient technology, and is prone to several types of errors and misreadings. Accuracy and precision are not the same thing.

andres3

https://www.motor1.com/news/366354/audi-rs6-avant-darth-vader/

Looks like you can choose to buy your RS6 with the nanny of your choice, the modest 155 MPH, the speedy 174 MPH, or the full 190 MPH you paid for.

In a Station Wagon!

fintail

Also punishments for those who don't use turn signals. Seems to be an epidemic lately. Also maybe some progressive fines.

Over the past several years, MB has also offered a higher "performance" package on some AMG cars that bumps the limit to 186 mph, IIRC.

andres3

fintail said:

Also punishments for those who don't use turn signals. Seems to be an epidemic lately. Also maybe some progressive fines.

Over the past several years, MB has also offered a higher "performance" package on some AMG cars that bumps the limit to 186 mph, IIRC.

I would vote for a 4-figure turn signal violation fine. I find it much more offensive than the occasional speed demon that "dares" to pass me.

fintail

It's weird, when people pass me, I don't care. I use the old line about everyone faster than me is insane, and everyone slower than me is an idiot If everyone would just use first world lane discipline, and signal.

Also 10x the fine for distracted driving if holding a phone in a car with bluetooth, because the vehicle operator is too lazy or stupid to sync it. I see this in late model cars all the time.

andres3 said:

I would vote for a 4-figure turn signal violation fine. I find it much more offensive than the occasional speed demon that "dares" to pass me.

28firefighter

I don’t understand not moving to the right. I drive a sporty car and have zero embarrassment about driving in the right lane when I’m not passing.

stickguy

I don't either. usually. Some people seem afraid for some reason. Definitely some being passive-aggressive road warriors. plenty are likely oblivious.

mostly bothers me when they are driving slower than traffic.if they are moving over the SL and passing traffic, not a big deal. mostly.

one time I can see it is when the right lane is too slow. One place this happens is on the lower part of the NYS thruway, where the traffic can be pretty heavy but there are only 2 lanes. It is also hilly and lots of trucks. So, at times, you can get blocked in the right lane by slow traffic, but there are no breaks in the fast lane for long stretches.

so, you often have a choice of driving too slow, or just staying out in the fast lane, even if cars are trying to move faster than you want to go.

driver100

28firefighter said:

I don’t understand not moving to the right. I drive a sporty car and have zero embarrassment about driving in the right lane when I’m not passing.

I really try to do the same, as much as possible. But, on a long drive if there is lots of cars behind me in the left lane.....I go to the right lane and I get stuck behind a slow car in the right, then I have to move to the left again, and meanwhile I am back in the left only 10 cars back from where I would have been if I had stayed....and no one behind me can get through anyway.

stickguy

Car joke of the day: What do you call a Norwegian prostitute?



A: A Fjord Escort

driver100

fintail said:

It's weird, when people pass me, I don't care. I use the old line about everyone faster than me is insane, and everyone slower than me is an idiot If everyone would just use first world lane discipline, and signal.

Also 10x the fine for distracted driving if holding a phone in a car with bluetooth, because the vehicle operator is too lazy or stupid to sync it. I see this in late model cars all the time.

andres3 said:

I would vote for a 4-figure turn signal violation fine. I find it much more offensive than the occasional speed demon that "dares" to pass me.

I don't care about people passing me...if I maintain my speed it doesn't affect my life one bit. They can do their speeding and cutting back and get their blood pressure up.....makes no difference to me.

driver100

stickguy said:

Car joke of the day: What do you call a Norwegian prostitute?



A: A Fjord Escort

Cute!

driver100

andres3 said:

fintail said:

Also punishments for those who don't use turn signals. Seems to be an epidemic lately. Also maybe some progressive fines.

Over the past several years, MB has also offered a higher "performance" package on some AMG cars that bumps the limit to 186 mph, IIRC.

I would vote for a 4-figure turn signal violation fine. I find it much more offensive than the occasional speed demon that "dares" to pass me.

Even if he is going 191 mph?
As the cop said....if you are traveling the length of a football field in 1 second....if anyone moves in front of you or if anything goes wrong you will not have chance to react.
Ford Focus hitting a wall at 120 mph.

There isn't enough room for someone to survive the crash....and that's 120 mph.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

andres3 said:

fintail said:

Also punishments for those who don't use turn signals. Seems to be an epidemic lately. Also maybe some progressive fines.

Over the past several years, MB has also offered a higher "performance" package on some AMG cars that bumps the limit to 186 mph, IIRC.

I would vote for a 4-figure turn signal violation fine. I find it much more offensive than the occasional speed demon that "dares" to pass me.

Even if he is going 191 mph?
As the cop said....if you are traveling the length of a football field in 1 second....if anyone moves in front of you or if anything goes wrong you will not have chance to react.
Ford Focus hitting a wall at 120 mph.

There isn't enough room for someone to survive the crash....and that's 120 mph.

Not only is there no time to react but if you hit any dips, bumps, debris or pot holes at that speed you are toast.

fintail

Maybe some strawman there. I don't think andres was defending anyone going 120 or 192 on public roads, rather, that he doesn't care if someone wants to pass him, it's not his position to hold up someone who wants to zoom past, and that chronic non-signalers are much more annoying than someone who wants to fly by (likely going no more than ~20 over).

cdnpinhead

andres3 said:

I'd tend to think lowly of someone on the Lincoln LS board to begin with.

It's becoming clearer why we get along so well.

ab348

It's not just AMG M-B models that can speed in ridiculously inappropriate ways. How about a Kia Soul doing an estimated 120mph on suburban streets? With fatal results sadly:

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/canada/witness-describes-horrific-crash-scene-that-left-two-men-dead-in-st-johns-448968/

qbrozen

A Soul can’t hit 120. And the paper publishing another driver’s estimate is very poor “reporting,” IMHO.

dino001

andres3 said:

dino001 said:

Current most US-based German cars have 130 mph governorns, usually bumped up to 150 if the car has sports suspension package. Special sport models, like AMG, M or RS may have their own rules, though and I'm sure there are plenty of places you can reflash your CPU to remove the gorvernor, if it's there.

300+ kph is definitely an absurd speed for public roads with stock tires, even those on AMG model. Let alone a teenager driving it, which should result in long driver license suspension and perhaps many hours of community service, preferably at trauma hospital unit. I probably wouldn't imprison them, but I would make their life quite miserable for at least couple of years.

I think those punishments should be reserved for left lane campers/impeders, or perhaps those youngsters that cause their first collision. In the hopes that they might avoid creating a second collision.

Rich kid going 150 mph and older gentleman going ten mph too slow. Sure, clearly same thing.

stickguy

qbrozen said:

A Soul can’t hit 120. And the paper publishing another driver’s estimate is very poor “reporting,” IMHO.

Agreed that eyeball estimate is going to be unreliable (anything more “fast” or “really fast”. But I actually checked, and you might have to be insane to do it, but on an open highway with room, and the right year/engine, you can get a Soul up near that high. At least based on some random Soul forum I found!

Fair enough LOL.

I have to say this was done on an abandoned, closed down country road maintained ONLY by us and used ONLY by us just for this kind of stuff now. We clocked a random 2012 Kia Soul with GPS and radar gun at 119MPH at our speed trap.

The driver stated the car was slowly accelerating still as well.
He also said that the car did not feel especially stable at that speed either.
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imidazol97

stickguy said:

He also said that the car did not feel especially stable at that speed either.

That's gotta be the understatement of the day.

ab348

qbrozen said:

A Soul can’t hit 120. And the paper publishing another driver’s estimate is very poor “reporting,” IMHO.

Hey, all I know is what I read in the papers.

driver100

ab348 said:

It's not just AMG M-B models that can speed in ridiculously inappropriate ways. How about a Kia Soul doing an estimated 120mph on suburban streets? With fatal results sadly:

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/canada/witness-describes-horrific-crash-scene-that-left-two-men-dead-in-st-johns-448968/

The Soul is probably the one that turned over:

I get top speed for a KIA Soul as 90 m.p.h. If you are going 60 mph and a car zooms by you may think he is going 120 mph.......
Between a kid going 150 mph and an old guy going 10 mph under, I would rather deal with the 10 mph under guy anytime.
Really awful...poor motorcycle guy did not have a chance...of course, the speeders never think about the innocent victims who's lives they will ruin.

ronsteve

driver100 said:

I get top speed for a KIA Soul as 90 m.p.h. If you are going 60 mph and a car zooms by you may think he is going 120 mph........

Where do you get that? According to Car and Driver, (in the current model at least) the turbo models are governed at 128 mph and the lower models at 120.

venture

stickguy said:

qbrozen said:

A Soul can’t hit 120. And the paper publishing another driver’s estimate is very poor “reporting,” IMHO.

Agreed that eyeball estimate is going to be unreliable (anything more “fast” or “really fast”. But I actually checked, and you might have to be insane to do it, but on an open highway with room, and the right year/engine, you can get a Soul up near that high. At least based on some random Soul forum I found!

I used to do a fair amount of speed checking using a radar gun. You would think, after using a gun for a while, that you could judge speeds pretty well. You can't; especially at the higher speeds.

graphicguy

ab348 said:

qbrozen said:

A Soul can’t hit 120. And the paper publishing another driver’s estimate is very poor “reporting,” IMHO.

Hey, all I know is what I read in the papers.

Or like getting all our news from FaceBook and believing every medical post on YouTube!

driver100

ronsteve said:

driver100 said:

I get top speed for a KIA Soul as 90 m.p.h. If you are going 60 mph and a car zooms by you may think he is going 120 mph........

Where do you get that? According to Car and Driver, (in the current model at least) the turbo models are governed at 128 mph and the lower models at 120.

You are right.....I read the first part of posts where drivers said they drove it 90 mph....missed the part where they said they could have gone higher. Maybe he was going 120. We'll have to get oldfarmer to take his out and see what it will do.

stickguy

The 120 maybe have been misperception. But it was probably flying way faster than normal. So maybe it was just 95? Or 100? Still way too fast for conditions.

ab348

I see an Audi in the pic, maybe that was the speeder.

stickguy

Audi definitely hit from behind. Besides, Andre doesn’t live in Canada!

nyccarguy

cdnpinhead said:

andres3 said:

I'd tend to think lowly of someone on the Lincoln LS board to begin with.

It's becoming clearer why we get along so well.

I was waiting for you to chime in.