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stickguy

man, trucks have gotten so darned bulked up. Like billboards. Watching the baseball ASG, and they just had a bit about the MVP gets to pick a Chevy, and showed the 2 choices. A silverado trail boss, or a Corvette. Looked like the C8 could drive under the front bumper, and the PU driver would never see it with such a massive hood and 5' high grill.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

OF, it's the paper. once you introduce a person into the equation, be prepared to wait.

I usually never see anything until late July anyway so a few more weeks is no biggie.

tjc78

I know we’ve talked about TPMS before, but my one complaint with Volvo is how bad their system is.

Got an alert on the dashboard with the driver’s rear circled. OK I haven’t checked any of them for a little while so entirely possible. Visual check, no nails and definitely not dangerously low.

I can’t find my tire gauge because I haven’t needed it for years since GM and Hyundai have pressure read outs for each tire like it should be … so I run to Wawa who has the nice pumps that beep at a preset PSI

So driver’s rear wheel first. Was at 31, topped it to 37. Rest of the tires were at 33, and brought them up to 37.

Went in grabbed coffees for the family because I’m nice and then came out to the light still on. Pull up the menu and then have to pull up the TPMS specific menu and “store pressure”. It then proceeded to “spin” and wouldn’t give green on all four corners until I drove for about 8-10 miles.

Over complicated fail. Take a page from GM on this one Volvo.

Rant over

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

The good news- Liberty Mutual finally spoke to the bus driver and has accepted 100% liability.

The bad news- my insurance is still at $300 less than auction value and won’t go up. I filed a complaint with the state department insurance this afternoon. I’ll see what happens.

I guess we are commenting on a July 9th post.
I know the SIL bought a used Rogue (don't ask????? ) that cost $24000.
He got run off the road by a truck - he says, but he probably did it himself - and the car was a write off. This happened 4 months after he bought it.
I don't talk to him but I hear he is really upset because he paid $24000 and they will only give him $22000.
In this case, they probably gave him the generous wholesale/trade-in price, but I am not going to waste my time explaining it....let him stew about it.

MJFloyd1......are you saying they are offering $300 under auction or wholesale price? I suppose they can try, and it might be hard to fight it....but, they might just be testing to see if they can get away with it.

Was his cost $24K OTD? If so he did real well and has no room to complain, if that $24K is before Tax Title and license he still did get a pretty good payout.

No, he paid $24k for the Rogue...plus taxes, license fees etc.
After the accident they were offering $22000.
I still don't think he has a reason to complain because of the way the system is.
They'll only give him what the car is worth to him....like if he was to trade it in on another car.
If life was fair....they would give him the amount he needed to buy the same car again...but, it doesn't work like that.

Before you said after an accident your car is worth less as a trade-in, but they can't deduct that because the insurance company doesn't know when you will be trading in your car or what condition it will be in.

When you eventually trade in your car they should give you the value if it wasn't in an accident and if it was, and then the insurance company should pay up. Why should my car be worth less, when some moron hits it?

kyfdx

imidazol97 said:

My IRS return is in its 8th week after date of receipt by IRS in Fresno.
Waiting.

Still waiting for the last stimulus check.

I think I may have unintentionally killed mine. I was checking on the healthcare exchange to see if I could save money on my healthcare, and they asked some income questions, which were automatically verified by the IRS.

I definitely qualify (got the other two), but looks like I'll have to wait to file my tax return to get this last one.

imidazol97

tjc78 said:

I know we’ve talked about TPMS before, but my one complaint with Volvo is how bad their system is.

Got an alert on the dashboard with the driver’s rear circled. OK I haven’t checked any of them for a little while so entirely possible. Visual check, no nails and definitely not dangerously low.

I can’t find my tire gauge because I haven’t needed it for years since GM and Hyundai have pressure read outs for each tire like it should be … so I run to Wawa who has the nice pumps that beep at a preset PSI

So driver’s rear wheel first. Was at 31, topped it to 37. Rest of the tires were at 33, and brought them up to 37.

Went in grabbed coffees for the family because I’m nice and then came out to the light still on. Pull up the menu and then have to pull up the TPMS specific menu and “store pressure”. It then proceeded to “spin” and wouldn’t give green on all four corners until I drove for about 8-10 miles.

Over complicated fail. Take a page from GM on this one Volvo.

Rant over

Sounds like they may be using the ABS rotation speed sensors for the tire conditions. My 03 leSabre had that kind of tire pressure monitoring. Over the years I found out that the system used comparisons of the rotation speeds in 3 different speed ranges and compared them. IOW, if the tire is low, it might change how its speed compared to the other tire(s) was in mid speeds but not at low speeds or highway speeds.

It may be your car had to go through resetting all 3 speed ranges or whatever breakdown Volvo uses before it turned off the light. Did it go off after you reached a higher speed, for instance?

driver100

tjc78 said:

I know we’ve talked about TPMS before, but my one complaint with Volvo is how bad their system is.

Got an alert on the dashboard with the driver’s rear circled. OK I haven’t checked any of them for a little while so entirely possible. Visual check, no nails and definitely not dangerously low.

I can’t find my tire gauge because I haven’t needed it for years since GM and Hyundai have pressure read outs for each tire like it should be … so I run to Wawa who has the nice pumps that beep at a preset PSI

So driver’s rear wheel first. Was at 31, topped it to 37. Rest of the tires were at 33, and brought them up to 37.

Over complicated fail. Take a page from GM on this one Volvo.

Rant over

I did a quick Google check:
Tire Pressure for Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum
Recommended tire inflation for Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum is 38 psi to 42 psi for front tires and 38 psi to 42 psi for rear tires.
I'm no expert but didn't it do what it was supposed to do...it warned you the pressure was low? And then it might be set so it will be more accurate if you drive 8 to 10 miles before giving you a reading.

stickguy

Driver, insurance is supposed to give you retail, not wholesale, value. Since they are replacing your car.

imidazol97

Chick Fil A chosen top fast food restaurant even beating full service restaurants like Longhorn (83 compared to 70) in customer satisfaction.

"For the seventh year in a row, Chick-fil-A was chosen tops in customer satisfaction for fast-food restaurants.

"According to the American Customer Satisfaction Index Restaurant Study, Chick-fil-A came in on top of all fast-food restaurants with a score of 83 out of 100 possible points.

"The restaurant chain also beat every full-service restaurant included in the survey. The top full-service restaurant was LongHorn Steakhouse. LongHorn scored an 80."

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/chick-fil-a-chosen-top-us-fast-food-restaurant-mcdonalds-last/IGXMOJ6NEREYZODDO7MDX7M4VE/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

tjc78

@driver100 said:
I did a quick Google check:
Tire Pressure for Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum
Recommended tire inflation for Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum is 38 psi to 42 psi for front tires and 38 psi to 42 psi for rear tires.
I'm no expert but didn't it do what it was supposed to do...it warned you the pressure was low? And then it might be set so it will be more accurate if you drive 8 to 10 miles before giving you a reading.

This was for my S60.

I didn’t say it do what it needed to do. I said it’s cumbersome and not as logical as other makes where the display tells you exact tire pressures.

Like @imidazol97 said, it must be some sort of rotational based system rather than individually installed sensors.

To answer the question, speed didn’t matter it seems to just need some miles before giving green at all four corners.

tjc78

@imidazol97 said:
Chick Fil A chosen top fast food restaurant even beating full service restaurants like Longhorn (83 compared to 70) in customer satisfaction.

"For the seventh year in a row, Chick-fil-A was chosen tops in customer satisfaction for fast-food restaurants.

"According to the American Customer Satisfaction Index Restaurant Study, Chick-fil-A came in on top of all fast-food restaurants with a score of 83 out of 100 possible points.

"The restaurant chain also beat every full-service restaurant included in the survey. The top full-service restaurant was LongHorn Steakhouse. LongHorn scored an 80."

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/chick-fil-a-chosen-top-us-fast-food-restaurant-mcdonalds-last/IGXMOJ6NEREYZODDO7MDX7M4VE/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

CFA is customer obsessed. They make you feel like you are dining at a much higher priced place. If they screw up, they always give you a comp for next time.

CFA story time later.

driver100

stickguy said:

Driver, insurance is supposed to give you retail, not wholesale, value. Since they are replacing your car.

That seems logical...in SILs case he paid $24k 4 months earlier....they offered $22k. Maybe he over payed or the car depreciated that much in 2 months. Since used car prices have gone up so much I wonder if they give you today's highly inflated prices.

Maybe oldfarmer should take his hooptie out and hope someone hits it.

driver100

tjc78 said:

@driver100 said:

I did a quick Google check:

Tire Pressure for Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum

Recommended tire inflation for Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum is 38 psi to 42 psi for front tires and 38 psi to 42 psi for rear tires.

I'm no expert but didn't it do what it was supposed to do...it warned you the pressure was low? And then it might be set so it will be more accurate if you drive 8 to 10 miles before giving you a reading.

This was for my S60.

I didn’t say it do what it needed to do. I said it’s cumbersome and not as logical as other makes where the display tells you exact tire pressures.

Like @imidazol97 said, it must be some sort of rotational based system rather than individually installed sensors.

To answer the question, speed didn’t matter it seems to just need some miles before giving green at all four corners.

By making you drive a few miles the tires get heated up to their more maximum pressure level. If you go by the cold pressure on a tire that hasn't been moving it could register lower than the real temperature.
Just saying maybe that is why they want you to drive a few miles before giving you a reading....which though cumbersome is probably a good thing to get a more accurate reading.

Really cumbersome if you are paying for air....fill the tire, then have to drive to see what the reading is, and then pay for more air, but you should have a more accurate reading. Chhose your poison.

jmonroe1

bwia said:

The Taxman cometh.

Just received a tax collection notice from the IRS on my 2019 return for $1,080.41, which represents $884.02 for late filing and $117.87 for interest and penalty. Bummer!

I believe I have a good enough excuse since I was stuck in the Caribbean for 9 months because of Covid-19 restrictions. Any suggestions on how I should proceed? I don't want to go to jail.

Don’t worry. When I get my notification you’ll have company.

jmonroe

henryn

While I was doing my homework, before swapping the wheels on my truck, I watched a few videos on TPMS sensors, how they worked, how to install, etc. The newer TPMS sensors (last 10 years) give real time readings on tire pressure, temperature, and more. What the computer in the car does with those readings is a different matter entirely. A $150 hand tool will read the TPMS sensors and show you everything they are broadcasting.

This 2013 F150 will just tell me that I have a low tire, not which one, and not how low. My 2018 F150, which was getting pretty much the same information from the sensors, would show me a diagram with the pressure at all 4 corners. The owner’s manual did state that you should not rely on that display when you were airing up your tires.

Everyone should own an accurate air pressure gauge, just as they should know how to check the oil and how to change a flat, just in case AAA isn’t there.

driver100

@henryn My first TPMS was in my 2004 X3. It was pretty minimal, it said a tire had low pressure. And then there was a big process to reset the gauge once you found the tire in question and filled it up with air.

More recent cars show the pressure in each tire, and to reset you can just check the pressure available in your car. Agree about carrying a tire gauge....I don't even know if some service station air pumps can be trusted, some are in pretty rough shape.

oldfarmer50

kyfdx said:

imidazol97 said:

My IRS return is in its 8th week after date of receipt by IRS in Fresno.
Waiting.

Still waiting for the last stimulus check.

I think I may have unintentionally killed mine. I was checking on the healthcare exchange to see if I could save money on my healthcare, and they asked some income questions, which were automatically verified by the IRS.

I definitely qualify (got the other two), but looks like I'll have to wait to file my tax return to get this last one.

Yeah, I’m missing the second $600 one. My wife got her’s in the mail despite the fact that we file jointly and the other two were direct deposited in our account.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

Driver, insurance is supposed to give you retail, not wholesale, value. Since they are replacing your car.

That seems logical...in SILs case he paid $24k 4 months earlier....they offered $22k. Maybe he over payed or the car depreciated that much in 2 months. Since used car prices have gone up so much I wonder if they give you today's highly inflated prices.

Maybe oldfarmer should take his hooptie out and hope someone hits it.

I think even the hooptie prices have inflated. My $2k Sebring is now going for $4k on Craigslist ads for similar year and mileage. I would imagine that if someone totaled it I wouldn’t get squat from the insurance company.

ab348

The CUE infotainment system in my ATS has been acting erratically for a few months as they are wont to do. I complained about it when it was in for service in April and they reloaded the latest software and called it a day. That did nothing to resolve its misbehavior of course. A couple of weeks back we had some abnormally hot weather here and when I next used the car I noticed a small 1" crack in the upper corner of the screen, not in an area that you would ever touch to control it. Today it was especially cranky and I made a video of it and sent it off to my service advisor. To her credit, she immediately responded and said they are ordering a new screen under warranty.

I suspect most CUE screens in the system Caddy used from 2018 and earlier have all been replaced at least once. The one in my 2014 ATS failed fairly early on. I wonder if other makes have anything close to that rate of failure? Apparently there is an aftermarket version of the CUE screen that is more robust but of course GM does not use that because it does away with the haptic feedback feature. At least I will get a slightly longer warranty period now once the replacement is installed.

stickguy

Farmer, that’s putting a big crimp in my plan to get a hooptie to tide me over. If I’m going to take a bath on it, might as well just pay the surcharge now on what I would rather have.

henryn

stickguy said:

Farmer, that’s putting a big crimp in my plan to get a hooptie to tide me over. If I’m going to take a bath on it, might as well just pay the surcharge now on what I would rather have.

You need to define "bath". Buying an older used car for $4k instead of $2k means you could lose $2k when things return to normal.

Let's say you instead buy a $30k Honda CR-V. You pay a $4k "market adjustment", so $34k. In a year or a year and a half, that $30k MSRP car is now available for about $28k new, and your used one is worth maybe $26k. Which would be a loss of $8k in 12 to 18 months.

Is it worth that much to be driving the new CR-V versus the beater? Only you can answer that question.

All numbers pulled out of thin air, so feel free to make up your own numbers. But trying to find a new Honda at MSRP would probably be very difficult at this moment in time.

stickguy

I could have bought a new model civic last weekend for sticker.

I was thinking more like 2k on a hooptie vs 2k on a new car (the former discount now missing). Predicting down the line, who knows! Difference is, instead of buying a car to dump in 3-6 months, it would be buying the keeper now.

henryn

stickguy said:

I could have bought a new model civic last weekend for sticker.
.

If things get any worse, you may wind up wishing you had taken that opportunity! I don't think that's possible around here. I just checked the two closest Honda dealers, the closest has NO Civics, the second closest has 10 Civics but no selling prices listed, only MSRP with no indication as to actual price.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

I could have bought a new model civic last weekend for sticker.

I was thinking more like 2k on a hooptie vs 2k on a new car (the former discount now missing). Predicting down the line, who knows! Difference is, instead of buying a car to dump in 3-6 months, it would be buying the keeper now.

But with a beater you can just junk it or give it to charity. It all comes down to how badly you need a vehicle right away.

stickguy

Our standards of beater is different. I have to be willing to sit in it, and possibly even get the wife in it. If I brought home a rusty 20 YO Buick she would throw both of us out.

A 2012 Civic or Camry is my definition of a Hooptie. And those are absurdly overpriced.

stickguy

Oh, I just pulled up rodo. Pick of colors on new civic tourings at MSRP.

laurasdada

Some time back, dining at Chick Fil A; went to the counter to refill my Diet Coke. I joked with the counterperson (so friendly) that it's too bad that the meals didn't offer free refills!
5 minutes later, the Manager came by with a free meal; after thanking and confirming that no employee would be (directly) paying for this largesse, I accepted it. And, being strong of self-control and health conscious, ate the whole thing.

jmonroe1

laurasdada said:

Some time back, dining at Chick Fil A; went to the counter to refill my Diet Coke. I joked with the counterperson (so friendly) that it's too bad that the meals didn't offer free refills!
5 minutes later, the Manager came by with a free meal; after thanking and confirming that no employee would be (directly) paying for this largesse, I accepted it. And, being strong of self-control and health conscious, ate the whole thing.

I’ve mentioned this before about CFA…the people that work there seem to genuinely enjoy serving their customers. Kinda wild in this day and age.

FWIW, the CFA we go to offers free refills. I rarely take advantage of that and on top of that when I have it was because someone was walking around asking if anyone wanted a refill and they brought it to the table.

I doubt they’ll stay in business very long with their attitude.

jmonroe

driver100

stickguy said:

Our standards of beater is different. I have to be willing to sit in it, and possibly even get the wife in it. If I brought home a rusty 20 YO Buick she would throw both of us out.

A 2012 Civic or Camry is my definition of a Hooptie. And those are absurdly overpriced.

How much did you want to spend......2004 Camry $3800, 183000 miles...looks clean except the black marks on the hood.


You Need to Hurry This Vehicle Is Going to The Pre Auction Storage Lot, These Cars Are Offered For Sale For A Limited Period of Time Before They Are Sent to Auction, Sold AS-IS with all it's Faults, See Dealer for Details, Mechanical and Cosmetic Work may be Required, This vehicle is a Wholesale unit it will be available for sale until it is sent to the Auction,

To get one in good running order is probably going to cost $15000+
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=584433956&zip=33573&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=33573&city=Sun+City+Center&vehicleStyleCodes=SEDAN&incremental=all&modelCodeList=CAMRY&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&listingTypes=USED&sortBy=relevance&location=%5Bobject+Object%5D&maxPrice=15000&state=FL&searchByDma=false&firstRecord=0&marketExtension=include&relevanceConfig=default&searchRadius=200&isNewSearch=false&listingTypes=USED&numRecords=25&maxPrice=15000&vehicleStyleCodes=SEDAN&searchByDma=false&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CAMRY&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=TOYOTA&modelCode1=CAMRY&clickType=listing

henryn

stickguy said:

Our standards of beater is different. I have to be willing to sit in it, and possibly even get the wife in it. If I brought home a rusty 20 YO Buick she would throw both of us out.

A 2012 Civic or Camry is my definition of a Hooptie. And those are absurdly overpriced.

Well, yes, the Civics and Accords and Camrys are overpriced. But a Buick doesn't have to be 20 years old and rusty.

https://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/houston-2014-buick-lacrosse/7347877619.html

https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/houston-2012-buick-lacrosse/7342647023.html

Those are not $2k hoopties, but they're well under $10k, and are very nice cars which would provide nice transportation for several years.


Yes, all of those (above) are probably twice as expensive right now as they were 18 months ago. But if you buy one of them and drive it a couple of years, you're not going to lose your shirt either.

Of course, if you can get a new Civic for MSRP, that very well might be a better option for you.

mjfloyd1

Currently at 50649 pretax. He says they have some wiggle room. I want him to wiggle up to 53300 pretax

mjfloyd1

I got $53300 pretax but that was painful.

Thanks to @qbrozen

stickguy

don't tell him that. he is going to send you an invoice now!

but congrats. Might have required expert help, and been painful, but paid off. But think about the average person that had no clue about the car business or willingness to stand up to the bully, that took the first offer. Which is exactly why that is their business model!

stickguy

well, I also won't drive a large domestic sedan. Forgot to mention that. But the smaller sedan they had was not bad.

henryn

stickguy said:

well, I also won't drive a large domestic sedan. Forgot to mention that. But the smaller sedan they had was not bad.

That's too bad. The best hoopties are usually large domestic sedans.

I myself am not nearly that picky. If I need it to get me from point A to point B, and I can fit in it and don't feel it puts my life in danger, I will drive it. And have driven it.

Which is not the same thing as owning it!

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

Our standards of beater is different. I have to be willing to sit in it, and possibly even get the wife in it. If I brought home a rusty 20 YO Buick she would throw both of us out.

A 2012 Civic or Camry is my definition of a Hooptie. And those are absurdly overpriced.

How much did you want to spend......2004 Camry $3800, 183000 miles...looks clean except the black marks on the hood.


You Need to Hurry This Vehicle Is Going to The Pre Auction Storage Lot, These Cars Are Offered For Sale For A Limited Period of Time Before They Are Sent to Auction, Sold AS-IS with all it's Faults, See Dealer for Details, Mechanical and Cosmetic Work may be Required, This vehicle is a Wholesale unit it will be available for sale until it is sent to the Auction,

To get one in good running order is probably going to cost $15000+
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=584433956&zip=33573&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=33573&city=Sun+City+Center&vehicleStyleCodes=SEDAN&incremental=all&modelCodeList=CAMRY&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&listingTypes=USED&sortBy=relevance&location=%5Bobject+Object%5D&maxPrice=15000&state=FL&searchByDma=false&firstRecord=0&marketExtension=include&relevanceConfig=default&searchRadius=200&isNewSearch=false&listingTypes=USED&numRecords=25&maxPrice=15000&vehicleStyleCodes=SEDAN&searchByDma=false&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CAMRY&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=TOYOTA&modelCode1=CAMRY&clickType=listing

Here’s a newer one for about the same:

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/troy-2009-toyota-camry/7351076399.html

qbrozen

@mjfloyd1 said:
I got $53300 pretax but that was painful.

Thanks to @qbrozen

Good for you! Way to outlast them. That was a ridiculous exercise.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

well, I also won't drive a large domestic sedan. Forgot to mention that. But the smaller sedan they had was not bad.

My goodness you’re a snob! Are you afraid they won’t let you buy a fancy house in Saratoga?

28firefighter

Well done @mjfloyd1 !! Way to stick to your guns on this.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

well, I also won't drive a large domestic sedan. Forgot to mention that. But the smaller sedan they had was not bad.

My goodness you’re a snob! Are you afraid they won’t let you buy a fancy house in Saratoga?

I have standards. That Camry does not look/sound too bad, but not sure it would stand up to closer scrutiny.

I have found a few houses/neighborhoods up there that the wife really likes. So far a disconnect between budget and wants. But not too far off. Maybe like "should get a CRV but wants and RDX now". Which is better than "can afford a Civic but wants a BMW 7 series"!

tjc78

@henryn said:
Well, yes, the Civics and Accords and Camrys are overpriced. But a Buick doesn't have to be 20 years old and rusty.

https://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/houston-2014-buick-lacrosse/7347877619.html

https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/houston-2012-buick-lacrosse/7342647023.html

Those are not $2k hoopties, but they're well under $10k, and are very nice cars which would provide nice transportation for several years.

Yes, all of those (above) are probably twice as expensive right now as they were 18 months ago. But if you buy one of them and drive it a couple of years, you're not going to lose your shirt either.

Of course, if you can get a new Civic for MSRP, that very well might be a better option for you.

I’d go for the Silver 2012. Looks to be a PIII like I had. That was a great car with respectable handling for a nearly 5,000 lb sedan.

stickguy

Both of those are salvage (rebuilt) titles. Floods maybe?

mjfloyd1

I got it done while standing in line in Gatlinburg. Profitable wait for once in my life.

Thanks again for help/support

mjfloyd1

He even had one value of $55k but averaged. I just went with the Manheim @qbrozen fair number for me

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

@henryn said:

Well, yes, the Civics and Accords and Camrys are overpriced. But a Buick doesn't have to be 20 years old and rusty.

https://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/houston-2014-buick-lacrosse/7347877619.html

https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/houston-2012-buick-lacrosse/7342647023.html

Those are not $2k hoopties, but they're well under $10k, and are very nice cars which would provide nice transportation for several years.

Yes, all of those (above) are probably twice as expensive right now as they were 18 months ago. But if you buy one of them and drive it a couple of years, you're not going to lose your shirt either.

Of course, if you can get a new Civic for MSRP, that very well might be a better option for you.

I’d go for the Silver 2012. Looks to be a PIII like I had. That was a great car with respectable handling for a nearly 5,000 lb sedan.

Do you really want that car since it has a rebuilt title. Sounds like one of those Hurricane Harvey flood cars. You don’t have to take that one. I’m sure there’s more where that one came from and maybe with less miles.

EDIT: I see @stickguy already mentioned that but you can still give us an answer.

jmonroe

tjc78

I didn’t read description… of course not if it’s salvage

henryn

Salvage titles on older cars are pretty easy to figure out. If you're dealing with the rebuilder himself, he will have pictures of the before and after so that you can judge the damage for yourself. It doesn't take much at all for the insurance company to total a 2012 Buick, a minor fender bender could be all that happened to it. Or if it's an individual, and he can prove that he has owned the car for a while and it's still running, all the better. My brother once bought an old Nissan (Datsun) pickup with a salvage title. The guy he bought it from had owned it for 5 years after the rebuild (you can tell from the title).

Now if it's a shady dealer, or a curbstoner, then of course run away.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

Our standards of beater is different. I have to be willing to sit in it, and possibly even get the wife in it. If I brought home a rusty 20 YO Buick she would throw both of us out.

A 2012 Civic or Camry is my definition of a Hooptie. And those are absurdly overpriced.

How much did you want to spend......2004 Camry $3800, 183000 miles...looks clean except the black marks on the hood.


You Need to Hurry This Vehicle Is Going to The Pre Auction Storage Lot, These Cars Are Offered For Sale For A Limited Period of Time Before They Are Sent to Auction, Sold AS-IS with all it's Faults, See Dealer for Details, Mechanical and Cosmetic Work may be Required, This vehicle is a Wholesale unit it will be available for sale until it is sent to the Auction,

To get one in good running order is probably going to cost $15000+
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=584433956&zip=33573&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=33573&city=Sun+City+Center&vehicleStyleCodes=SEDAN&incremental=all&modelCodeList=CAMRY&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&listingTypes=USED&sortBy=relevance&location=%5Bobject+Object%5D&maxPrice=15000&state=FL&searchByDma=false&firstRecord=0&marketExtension=include&relevanceConfig=default&searchRadius=200&isNewSearch=false&listingTypes=USED&numRecords=25&maxPrice=15000&vehicleStyleCodes=SEDAN&searchByDma=false&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CAMRY&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=TOYOTA&modelCode1=CAMRY&clickType=listing

Here’s a newer one for about the same:

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/troy-2009-toyota-camry/7351076399.html

except now it says:
This posting has been deleted by its author.
I wonder what happened?

Those salvaged cars shown also make me leery of buying used cars online when there is a shortage of good used cars...................it's a time to be extra careful. Maybe look for an estate sale car, at least it is being sold for the right reasons.

stickguy

It means that the car was a really good buy and sold quick. Price a clean used Toyota well and you will be inundated by people wanting it.

andres3

henryn said:

I remember when we were all working on the Volkswagen TDI buyback. I was driving around in a 2013 Passat TDI which was going to bring me a $5k profit (turned out to be over $7k). Some idiot ran a stop sign right in front of me, luckily I saw him, anticipated his insanity and was able to miss him. All I could think about was $5k going up in a puff of smoke as there was no way the insurance company was going to pay me what I was anticipating from VW on the buyback.

It all worked out in the end, but it made me nervous, I can tell you that. I was trying to figure out if there was some way to buy insurance for the extra added value in that Passat TDI, but of course there wasn't.

That exact scenario is why I ran, rather than walked, into the VW dealership to get my check going for the TDI buybacks.