@sda The Passat is a nice looking car, but they haven't changed them much over the years. Our 2013 looked the same, and the instrument cluster was exactly the same. I was impressed with the quality workmanship and the European handling - for a reasonable price. I guess the end is coming soon.
@driver100 said: @sda The Passat is a nice looking car, but they haven't changed them much over the years. Our 2013 looked the same, and the instrument cluster was exactly the same. I was impressed with the quality workmanship and the European handling - for a reasonable price. I guess the end is coming soon.
Driver, the Passat has grown in size since your 2013 and is much roomier inside. The shape is similar but the 2013 and the 2021 are merely related - definitely not the same cars. 🤓
Speaking about inventory shortages, GM is suspending operations at all of its assembly plants due to semiconductor shortages! Can the other manufacturers be far behind? Probably not! Shortages of vehicles causes significant increases in prices. Going to be very slow introductions of 2022 vehicles because of this situation.
Speaking about inventory shortages, GM is suspending operations at all of its assembly plants due to semiconductor shortages! Can the other manufacturers be far behind? Probably not! Shortages of vehicles causes significant increases in prices. Going to be very slow introductions of 2022 vehicles because of this situation.
The GM at my BMW store told me that the main problem for them is the unavailability of certain options, such as wireless charging pads.
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The GM at my BMW store told me that the main problem for them is the unavailability of certain options, such as wireless charging pads.
I have 2 ways I can charge my iPhone while in the car - USB cable or wireless charging slot in my console. I prefer using the USB cable because my phone charges faster and with less heat production. I have 2-USB slots - one for CarPlay and one for connectivity for the music on my phone. The phone charges using either slot.
The unit total production shortage across all brands and models will be in millions by the time it’s over. Wireless charging pad may be a decent convenience, but not a necessity, plus I’m not convinced I’d by one from BMW at their proposed prices. Like $300 for Apple Play back in the day I bought my GC.
The GM at my BMW store told me that the main problem for them is the unavailability of certain options, such as wireless charging pads.
I have 2 ways I can charge my iPhone while in the car - USB cable or wireless charging slot in my console. I prefer using the USB cable because my phone charges faster and with less heat production. I have 2-USB slots - one for CarPlay and one for connectivity for the music on my phone. The phone charges using either slot.
I found the same thing when charging my phone in the Legacy. Faster with the cable, but I use the 12 volt option usually instead of USB. The wireless is slower and the phone gets pretty hot.
We are spending the week in Hilton Head. The Passat is a great highway cruiser and got great gas mileage. Heavy traffic around HH brought it down from 43.4 to 41.
A couple of pics, the Q5, RDX, VW fleet were all loaded down.
Nice vacation spot, nice gas mileage. What engine do you have in the Passat?
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@driver100 said: @sda The Passat is a nice looking car, but they haven't changed them much over the years. Our 2013 looked the same, and the instrument cluster was exactly the same. I was impressed with the quality workmanship and the European handling - for a reasonable price. I guess the end is coming soon.
Driver, the Passat has grown in size since your 2013 and is much roomier inside. The shape is similar but the 2013 and the 2021 are merely related - definitely not the same cars. 🤓
That explains why the price has gone up, according to C&D they start at $28k+ and is their #9 choice. Most are around $25k with #1 being Accord, #2 was a surprise - Mazda 6, #3 Sonata which looks pretty nice with it's remodel - see below, #4 KIA K5 and #6 Camry at $26k. Actually, $28k is pretty good because our 2013 was $23k and was a manual. It was also slow, I believe the new ones have more hps.
@driver100 is correct. The 2018 is essentially the same as his 2013. It had a styling update in 2016 and multiple powertrain and equipment, features changes through time. The 2021 was revised again but is still the same car. It is a good solid no nonsense car.
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I haven’t had a real chance to use the adaptive cruise control until our trip. I followed my wife in the Q5, and my SIL in her RDX. I had our dogs riding with me. When we were on the interstate I set cruise on 80 even though we were going about 75. It was great as the car slowed down and sped up to speed as appropriate and kept a proper distance with the flow of traffic. I’m spoiled by it now. And speaking of spoiled, our dogs travel with us where ever we go. Their bed takes up my trunk. Everything else in the other vehicles.
I haven’t had a real chance to use the adaptive cruise control until our trip. I followed my wife in the Q5, and my SIL in her RDX. I had our dogs riding with me. When we were on the interstate I set cruise on 80 even though we were going about 75. It was great as the car slowed down and sped up to speed as appropriate and kept a proper distance with the flow of traffic. I’m spoiled by it now. And speaking of spoiled, our dogs travel with us where ever we go. Their bed takes up my trunk. Everything else in the other vehicles.
Curious how it reacts when you come to a stop - in the Subaru, the ACC brings the car to 0 MPH, then shows "HOLD" on the dashboard. When traffic starts to move again, a slight tap on the gas pedal resets the system back to the original MPH setting. Very nice.
We were doing shuttles out of the airport today which is usually considered grunt work. One bright spot among the Accents and Versas was one Infinity Q70. It had one of the most beautiful interiors I’ve seen in a long time. Creamer colored leather with matching pleated door panels. Very comfortable, powerful even in 3.7L V6 form. Couldn’t tell much about handling in the 1 mile shuttle with the local constabulary staked out waiting for the over enthusiastic transporter but it seemed very tight and centered. Wouldn’t mind owning one if I had a few more bucks.
For some reason my Edmunds Cars and Conversations start page defaults to page 1595 (Nov 2018). And this @oldfarmer50 post featuring the Q70 still looks fresh. Good design or am I stuck in a time warp?
I haven’t had a real chance to use the adaptive cruise control until our trip. I followed my wife in the Q5, and my SIL in her RDX. I had our dogs riding with me. When we were on the interstate I set cruise on 80 even though we were going about 75. It was great as the car slowed down and sped up to speed as appropriate and kept a proper distance with the flow of traffic. I’m spoiled by it now. And speaking of spoiled, our dogs travel with us where ever we go. Their bed takes up my trunk. Everything else in the other vehicles.
Curious how it reacts when you come to a stop - in the Subaru, the ACC brings the car to 0 MPH, then shows "HOLD" on the dashboard. When traffic starts to move again, a slight tap on the gas pedal resets the system back to the original MPH setting. Very nice.
I haven’t been brave enough to let it slow down below 40, my foot automatically goes to the brake pedal. From my understanding this setup only slows to 20 then the driver needs to take over, i.e. brake.
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I haven’t had a real chance to use the adaptive cruise control until our trip. I followed my wife in the Q5, and my SIL in her RDX. I had our dogs riding with me. When we were on the interstate I set cruise on 80 even though we were going about 75. It was great as the car slowed down and sped up to speed as appropriate and kept a proper distance with the flow of traffic. I’m spoiled by it now. And speaking of spoiled, our dogs travel with us where ever we go. Their bed takes up my trunk. Everything else in the other vehicles.
Curious how it reacts when you come to a stop - in the Subaru, the ACC brings the car to 0 MPH, then shows "HOLD" on the dashboard. When traffic starts to move again, a slight tap on the gas pedal resets the system back to the original MPH setting. Very nice.
I haven’t been brave enough to let it slow down below 40, my foot automatically goes to the brake pedal. From my understanding this setup only slows to 20 then the driver needs to take over, i.e. brake.
OK, that would be similar to the Toyota ACC - it shuts down when the speed drops below a specific threshold - I think 20 MPH, as well.
Speaking about inventory shortages, GM is suspending operations at all of its assembly plants due to semiconductor shortages! Can the other manufacturers be far behind? Probably not! Shortages of vehicles causes significant increases in prices. Going to be very slow introductions of 2022 vehicles because of this situation.
The GM at my BMW store told me that the main problem for them is the unavailability of certain options, such as wireless charging pads.
I can think of a half dozen useless gewgaws like that that I would never miss.
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We were doing shuttles out of the airport today which is usually considered grunt work. One bright spot among the Accents and Versas was one Infinity Q70. It had one of the most beautiful interiors I’ve seen in a long time. Creamer colored leather with matching pleated door panels. Very comfortable, powerful even in 3.7L V6 form. Couldn’t tell much about handling in the 1 mile shuttle with the local constabulary staked out waiting for the over enthusiastic transporter but it seemed very tight and centered. Wouldn’t mind owning one if I had a few more bucks.
For some reason my Edmunds Cars and Conversations start page defaults to page 1595 (Nov 2018). And this @oldfarmer50 post featuring the Q70 still looks fresh. Good design or am I stuck in a time warp?
Mine defaults to page 1534 where I saw this exchange; jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,065 September 2018
imidazol97 said:
So far no one has commented on the data showing the Accord 2016, 17, 18 models are having higher repair problems. And the article will even let you read the types of problems real owners, not actors, are experiencing.
If this were about Malibus or other GM products, there would be comments.
You need to eat more pickles. Pickles have been claimed to grow thicker skin. That's why models don't eat them. Just a suggestion. jmonroe
We were doing shuttles out of the airport today which is usually considered grunt work. One bright spot among the Accents and Versas was one Infinity Q70. It had one of the most beautiful interiors I’ve seen in a long time. Creamer colored leather with matching pleated door panels. Very comfortable, powerful even in 3.7L V6 form. Couldn’t tell much about handling in the 1 mile shuttle with the local constabulary staked out waiting for the over enthusiastic transporter but it seemed very tight and centered. Wouldn’t mind owning one if I had a few more bucks.
For some reason my Edmunds Cars and Conversations start page defaults to page 1595 (Nov 2018). And this @oldfarmer50 post featuring the Q70 still looks fresh. Good design or am I stuck in a time warp?
Probably wanted to make sure you didn’t miss my witty banter.
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@driver100 is correct. The 2018 is essentially the same as his 2013. It had a styling update in 2016 and multiple powertrain and equipment, features changes through time. The 2021 was revised again but is still the same car. It is a good solid no nonsense car.
One odd thing...I never get comments about the E400, but I had 3 or 4 people comment that the Passat was a really nice looking car. The Sonata and KIA are flashier looking, but the Passat has nice clean sensible styling. I still don't know how they got the backseat area so large, it is like a limo back there!
@driver100 is correct. The 2018 is essentially the same as his 2013. It had a styling update in 2016 and multiple powertrain and equipment, features changes through time. The 2021 was revised again but is still the same car. It is a good solid no nonsense car.
One odd thing...I never get comments about the E400, but I had 3 or 4 people comment that the Passat was a really nice looking car. The Sonata and KIA are flashier looking, but the Passat has nice clean sensible styling. I still don't know how they got the backseat area so large, it is like a limo back there!
Now you know how I feel when I got several nice comments when I had the black 2015 Altima rental for 2 days when Mrs. j’s 2012 Subie was in the shop having the right front fender replaced as a result of being hit by a pickup in a youth hockey arena parking lot. I never got that many complements about my 2015 Jenny in such a short period of time. :@
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Yes it is. Who says camping while traveling is cheaper than staying in motels/hotels...
Does anybody? If they do, they’ve never looked at the nightly prices of rv parks.
Although I wouldn’t call it camping. Camping involves no more than a tent for shelter, IMHO.
I say it's cheaper, but then again to me luxury camping is a tent I can stand up in that has a floor, an inflatable bed and a flush toilet within a half mile walk. Most places i have camped in were $25 or less with the vast majority being under $20.
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We are spending the week in Hilton Head. The Passat is a great highway cruiser and got great gas mileage. Heavy traffic around HH brought it down from 43.4 to 41.
Our weekend trip we got in the low thirties for the whole trip. However our trip involved no interstate driving and was all on back country roads. The driftless region is very rugged and hilly making most of the driving there on hills with tight turns so hard to keep a consistent speed which hurt our mileage.
Here is where we stayed, it's on a bluff overlooking the Mississippi.
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I haven’t had a real chance to use the adaptive cruise control until our trip. I followed my wife in the Q5, and my SIL in her RDX. I had our dogs riding with me. When we were on the interstate I set cruise on 80 even though we were going about 75. It was great as the car slowed down and sped up to speed as appropriate and kept a proper distance with the flow of traffic. I’m spoiled by it now. And speaking of spoiled, our dogs travel with us where ever we go. Their bed takes up my trunk. Everything else in the other vehicles.
Curious how it reacts when you come to a stop - in the Subaru, the ACC brings the car to 0 MPH, then shows "HOLD" on the dashboard. When traffic starts to move again, a slight tap on the gas pedal resets the system back to the original MPH setting. Very nice.
Yeah. My Legacy and Ascent do that too. Nice feature, but I always have my foot hovering over the brake pedal.
Got to try out my new Michelin CrossClimate tires in the rain yesterday, and as expected they are really good. Even got to test them in an empty school parking lot, and the wet traction is impressive. Glad I splurged on these tires, even though now I need to economize in other areas to pay for them.
@driver100 is correct. The 2018 is essentially the same as his 2013. It had a styling update in 2016 and multiple powertrain and equipment, features changes through time. The 2021 was revised again but is still the same car. It is a good solid no nonsense car.
One odd thing...I never get comments about the E400, but I had 3 or 4 people comment that the Passat was a really nice looking car. The Sonata and KIA are flashier looking, but the Passat has nice clean sensible styling. I still don't know how they got the backseat area so large, it is like a limo back there!
Now you know how I feel when I got several nice comments when I had the black 2015 Altima rental for 2 days when Mrs. j’s 2012 Subie was in the shop having the right front fender replaced as a result of being hit by a pickup in a youth hockey arena parking lot. I never got that many complements about my 2015 Jenny in such a short period of time. :@
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Maybe people are more comfortable relating to someone who is driving a car they can identify with. 30 years ago I liked watching Motorweek on PBS. I watched when they tested cars I might be interested in buying....I lost interest when they started reviewing Maserati's and Ferraris every week......what good does that do me?
One odd thing...I never get comments about the E400, but I had 3 or 4 people comment that the Passat was a really nice looking car.
I was watching Leno review movie director John Frankenheimer's 1965 Rolls-Royce Sliver Cloud and he made a comment about how that is the type of car that people tend to be a bit intimidated by when they see it - assuming it is someone who is very wealthy or famous inside. Could the same be happneing with your E-Class?
@driver100 said:
Maybe people are more comfortable relating to someone who is driving a car they can identify with. 30 years ago I liked watching Motorweek on PBS. I watched when they tested cars I might be interested in buying....I lost interest when they started reviewing Maserati's and Ferraris every week......what good does that do me?
Neil deGrasse Tyson and Malcolm Gladwell were on the radio discussing the technology behind self-driving cars. In essence, they concluded that the technology does not sufficiently take into consideration human behavior--rational or irrational.
Take for instance, the simple act of J-walking. If a person walks in front of an autonomous moving vehicle, the car will stop and so will all traffic that follows. Fair enough, but in a city where people constantly walk in and out of traffic, that is a recipe for perpetual gridlock. Getting to work in the morning would be a nightmare scenario. While this might appear to be a trivial point, it’s not really, if all other vehicles on the road are also self- driving. Eventually, passengers will get to their destinations, late and frustrated. So, instead of solving a problem, self-driving cars potentially create a new one that cannot be easily solved by artificial intelligence.
Maybe people are more comfortable relating to someone who is driving a car they can identify with. 30 years ago I liked watching Motorweek on PBS. I watched when they tested cars I might be interested in buying....I lost interest when they started reviewing Maserati's and Ferraris every week......what good does that do me?
That show tested few cars I'd be interested in buying.
Take for instance, the simple act of J-walking. If a person walks in front of an autonomous moving vehicle, the car will stop and so will all traffic that follows.
As apposed to now where the driver doesn't stop and simply runs over the J-walker?
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Got to try out my new Michelin CrossClimate tires in the rain yesterday, and as expected they are really good. Even got to test them in an empty school parking lot, and the wet traction is impressive. Glad I splurged on these tires, even though now I need to economize in other areas to pay for them.
Back from my trip to Ohio. Left at 5am Thursday. Rain and wind from Ida had stopped by then. At 10am a charter jet crashed just after takeoff a half a mile from my house. It crashed into a local business and 2 employees were injured. 4 people on board the plane, unfortunately none survived. One of my kids went to school with one of the victims, sadly, an expectant mom. Husband and wife were on the plane without their, now parentless, 1 year old. Very sad.
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We looked at a townhouse there. You can get one for less than a condo on the ocean side.
We stayed in those Sea Pines condos about a dozen times between 1994-2011. Great family vacations! Condo prices are crazy, though.
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Driver, the Passat has grown in size since your 2013 and is much roomier inside. The shape is similar but the 2013 and the 2021 are merely related - definitely not the same cars. 🤓
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Speaking about inventory shortages, GM is suspending operations at all of its assembly plants due to semiconductor shortages! Can the other manufacturers be far behind? Probably not! Shortages of vehicles causes significant increases in prices. Going to be very slow introductions of 2022 vehicles because of this situation.
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It’s only a 4 day shutdown when you exclude Labor Day.
I have 2 ways I can charge my iPhone while in the car - USB cable or wireless charging slot in my console. I prefer using the USB cable because my phone charges faster and with less heat production. I have 2-USB slots - one for CarPlay and one for connectivity for the music on my phone. The phone charges using either slot.
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Wireless charging pad may be a decent convenience, but not a necessity, plus I’m not convinced I’d by one from BMW at their proposed prices. Like $300 for Apple Play back in the day I bought my GC.
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I have 2 ways I can charge my iPhone while in the car - USB cable or wireless charging slot in my console. I prefer using the USB cable because my phone charges faster and with less heat production. I have 2-USB slots - one for CarPlay and one for connectivity for the music on my phone. The phone charges using either slot.
I found the same thing when charging my phone in the Legacy. Faster with the cable, but I use the 12 volt option usually instead of USB. The wireless is slower and the phone gets pretty hot.
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Driver, the Passat has grown in size since your 2013 and is much roomier inside. The shape is similar but the 2013 and the 2021 are merely related - definitely not the same cars. 🤓
That explains why the price has gone up, according to C&D they start at $28k+ and is their #9 choice. Most are around $25k with #1 being Accord, #2 was a surprise - Mazda 6, #3 Sonata which looks pretty nice with it's remodel - see below, #4 KIA K5 and #6 Camry at $26k.
Actually, $28k is pretty good because our 2013 was $23k and was a manual. It was also slow, I believe the new ones have more hps.
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If this were about Malibus or other GM products, there would be comments.
You need to eat more pickles. Pickles have been claimed to grow thicker skin. That's why models don't eat them.
Just a suggestion.
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Does anybody? If they do, they’ve never looked at the nightly prices of rv parks.
Although I wouldn’t call it camping. Camping involves no more than a tent for shelter, IMHO.
I say it's cheaper, but then again to me luxury camping is a tent I can stand up in that has a floor, an inflatable bed and a flush toilet within a half mile walk. Most places i have camped in were $25 or less with the vast majority being under $20.
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Here is where we stayed, it's on a bluff overlooking the Mississippi.
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OK, I guess not...
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Did you say GATORS?
Picture taken from top level of deck.
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I don't do gators.
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Entertainment? 😜🤪🤓
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Take for instance, the simple act of J-walking. If a person walks in front of an autonomous moving vehicle, the car will stop and so will all traffic that follows. Fair enough, but in a city where people constantly walk in and out of traffic, that is a recipe for perpetual gridlock. Getting to work in the morning would be a nightmare scenario. While this might appear to be a trivial point, it’s not really, if all other vehicles on the road are also self- driving. Eventually, passengers will get to their destinations, late and frustrated. So, instead of solving a problem, self-driving cars potentially create a new one that cannot be easily solved by artificial intelligence.
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Maybe people are more comfortable relating to someone who is driving a car they can identify with. 30 years ago I liked watching Motorweek on PBS. I watched when they tested cars I might be interested in buying....I lost interest when they started reviewing Maserati's and Ferraris every week......what good does that do me?
That show tested few cars I'd be interested in buying.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
As apposed to now where the driver doesn't stop and simply runs over the J-walker?
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Glad to hear the good news.
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This guy was outside our condo at Kiawah:
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Crunchy? Are you sure it's seedless?
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Left at 5am Thursday. Rain and wind from Ida had stopped by then.
At 10am a charter jet crashed just after takeoff a half a mile from my house.
It crashed into a local business and 2 employees were injured.
4 people on board the plane, unfortunately none survived.
One of my kids went to school with one of the victims, sadly, an expectant mom.
Husband and wife were on the plane without their, now parentless, 1 year old.
Very sad.