Describes the C/E/S class, the 3/5/7 series from BMW, and the A4/A6/A8 sedans from Audi.
Curious that none of the American brands adopted that strategy.
Many years ago, before many of you were born, Ford came out with the 1960 Comet which was sold by Mercury dealers. People who had more expensive T-Birds, and Galaxy 500s complained the less expensive Comet had a look that resembled their cars. I think the Big 3 shied away from making models resemble each other after that happened...but it didn't stop the Europeans from doing it.
I don't know about that, seems to me that the big three started to clone cars among their brand names in the 60's.
All I know is I remember reading about the complaints at the time....that the lower priced Comet bothered T-Bird owners because they looked too similar. I checked to see if I could find any info to confirm it and I got an article that was very current.......explaining the same problem. Off hand, I can't think of a case where the smaller and/or less expensive cars looked similar to their bigger mates, like a C Class and an S Class do...or BMWs or Audis. Maybe class doesn't matter as much in Europe...lol
Well the one thing that pops up in my mind is the Trans Am/Camero same car with a slightly different skin. Also refresh my memory wasn't the Bonneville/Impala/Le Sabre pretty much the same car with just slight differences with the look?
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Describes the C/E/S class, the 3/5/7 series from BMW, and the A4/A6/A8 sedans from Audi.
Curious that none of the American brands adopted that strategy.
Many years ago, before many of you were born, Ford came out with the 1960 Comet which was sold by Mercury dealers. People who had more expensive T-Birds, and Galaxy 500s complained the less expensive Comet had a look that resembled their cars. I think the Big 3 shied away from making models resemble each other after that happened...but it didn't stop the Europeans from doing it.
I don't know about that, seems to me that the big three started to clone cars among their brand names in the 60's.
All I know is I remember reading about the complaints at the time....that the lower priced Comet bothered T-Bird owners because they looked too similar. I checked to see if I could find any info to confirm it and I got an article that was very current.......explaining the same problem. Off hand, I can't think of a case where the smaller and/or less expensive cars looked similar to their bigger mates, like a C Class and an S Class do...or BMWs or Audis. Maybe class doesn't matter as much in Europe...lol
Well the one thing that pops up in my mind is the Trans Am/Camero same car with a slightly different skin. Also refresh my memory wasn't the Bonneville/Impala/Le Sabre pretty much the same car with just slight differences with the look?
Yes, in that case the Camaro was for Chevy dealers to sell and the Firebird (Trans Am) was for Pontiac dealers, similar with Bonneville, LeSabre and Impala, or Ford and Mercury, they made the same basic car for different lines, but each had it's own distinctive style. But they didn't take one of their larger models, like a large Cadillac, and make a smaller cheaper version, that was say the size of a Corvair....and use the same styling as say the larger Cadillac. When Cadillac made the small Cimmaron in 1985 it looked a lot different than the full size Caddie;
I like those. No clue if I fit. Looks like a nice example. I’d take it if I had the workshop space and tools to work on it myself.
For the sake of truth and integrity, I got a generic picture of a similar car from the internet, I couldn't copy it from the guys photo. But it looks almost exactly the same.
The X1/9 might have been the absolute worst car in the US market, in the '70s. And, that's saying something.
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We’ve been getting ready for that tropical storm east of us which is forecast to become a CAT 1 hurricane tomorrow night. Right now they predict it to make landfall in Palm Beach County or the Vero Beach area which is about 45-90 miles north of me. I am 3 miles south of Palm Beach County. But the winds of 35-70 mph extend out over 300 miles. This is a huge storm, especially this late in the hurricane season.
I went food shopping this morning - Publix was empty which really surprised me. They had full shelves of every item. My daughter lives in Boynton Beach (3-4 blocks north of Delray Beach) 3 blocks from the ocean on US-1. Since they are expecting a 4-5 foot storm surge up there, she will need to evacuate. She will come to me along with those children of hers - 2 young cats. Ahhhh, my dreams (nightmares) of sharing my condo with 2 cats is coming to realization.
Describes the C/E/S class, the 3/5/7 series from BMW, and the A4/A6/A8 sedans from Audi.
Curious that none of the American brands adopted that strategy.
Many years ago, before many of you were born, Ford came out with the 1960 Comet which was sold by Mercury dealers. People who had more expensive T-Birds, and Galaxy 500s complained the less expensive Comet had a look that resembled their cars. I think the Big 3 shied away from making models resemble each other after that happened...but it didn't stop the Europeans from doing it.
I don't know about that, seems to me that the big three started to clone cars among their brand names in the 60's.
All I know is I remember reading about the complaints at the time....that the lower priced Comet bothered T-Bird owners because they looked too similar. I checked to see if I could find any info to confirm it and I got an article that was very current.......explaining the same problem. Off hand, I can't think of a case where the smaller and/or less expensive cars looked similar to their bigger mates, like a C Class and an S Class do...or BMWs or Audis. Maybe class doesn't matter as much in Europe...lol
Well the one thing that pops up in my mind is the Trans Am/Camero same car with a slightly different skin. Also refresh my memory wasn't the Bonneville/Impala/Le Sabre pretty much the same car with just slight differences with the look?
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Anyone want a car that will cost 10X the purchase price to keep it on the road? My sister had bought one new many years ago. Even new, it was a challenge…..
Yes. That's not a pic of the exact unit, but right color. Not common, as you can imagine, so I have no gauge what they go for in Japan. I'm taking a guess at a price I'm comfortable with and we'll see what happens. I could be way under.
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Anyone want a car that will cost 10X the purchase price to keep it on the road? My sister had bought one new many years ago. Even new, it was a challenge…..
There is one of those Barchettas in that exact color locally that I see most summers. Eye-catching car and looks like fun. Can’t be much fun getting parts though.
Anyone want a car that will cost 10X the purchase price to keep it on the road? My sister had bought one new many years ago. Even new, it was a challenge…..
Describes the C/E/S class, the 3/5/7 series from BMW, and the A4/A6/A8 sedans from Audi.
Curious that none of the American brands adopted that strategy.
Many years ago, before many of you were born, Ford came out with the 1960 Comet which was sold by Mercury dealers. People who had more expensive T-Birds, and Galaxy 500s complained the less expensive Comet had a look that resembled their cars. I think the Big 3 shied away from making models resemble each other after that happened...but it didn't stop the Europeans from doing it.
I don't know about that, seems to me that the big three started to clone cars among their brand names in the 60's.
All I know is I remember reading about the complaints at the time....that the lower priced Comet bothered T-Bird owners because they looked too similar. I checked to see if I could find any info to confirm it and I got an article that was very current.......explaining the same problem. Off hand, I can't think of a case where the smaller and/or less expensive cars looked similar to their bigger mates, like a C Class and an S Class do...or BMWs or Audis. Maybe class doesn't matter as much in Europe...lol
Well the one thing that pops up in my mind is the Trans Am/Camero same car with a slightly different skin. Also refresh my memory wasn't the Bonneville/Impala/Le Sabre pretty much the same car with just slight differences with the look?
Yes, in that case the Camaro was for Chevy dealers to sell and the Firebird (Trans Am) was for Pontiac dealers, similar with Bonneville, LeSabre and Impala, or Ford and Mercury, they made the same basic car for different lines, but each had it's own distinctive style. But they didn't take one of their larger models, like a large Cadillac, and make a smaller cheaper version, that was say the size of a Corvair....and use the same styling as say the larger Cadillac. When Cadillac made the small Cimmaron in 1985 it looked a lot different than the full size Caddie;
Those were a MY 1982 debut that was widely panned from new, they disguised it more from the Cavalier as time went on. A later one with lots of equipment and a V6 might be kind of cool for what it is.
Describes the C/E/S class, the 3/5/7 series from BMW, and the A4/A6/A8 sedans from Audi.
Curious that none of the American brands adopted that strategy.
Many years ago, before many of you were born, Ford came out with the 1960 Comet which was sold by Mercury dealers. People who had more expensive T-Birds, and Galaxy 500s complained the less expensive Comet had a look that resembled their cars. I think the Big 3 shied away from making models resemble each other after that happened...but it didn't stop the Europeans from doing it.
I don't know about that, seems to me that the big three started to clone cars among their brand names in the 60's.
All I know is I remember reading about the complaints at the time....that the lower priced Comet bothered T-Bird owners because they looked too similar. I checked to see if I could find any info to confirm it and I got an article that was very current.......explaining the same problem. Off hand, I can't think of a case where the smaller and/or less expensive cars looked similar to their bigger mates, like a C Class and an S Class do...or BMWs or Audis. Maybe class doesn't matter as much in Europe...lol
Well the one thing that pops up in my mind is the Trans Am/Camero same car with a slightly different skin. Also refresh my memory wasn't the Bonneville/Impala/Le Sabre pretty much the same car with just slight differences with the look?
Yes, in that case the Camaro was for Chevy dealers to sell and the Firebird (Trans Am) was for Pontiac dealers, similar with Bonneville, LeSabre and Impala, or Ford and Mercury, they made the same basic car for different lines, but each had it's own distinctive style. But they didn't take one of their larger models, like a large Cadillac, and make a smaller cheaper version, that was say the size of a Corvair....and use the same styling as say the larger Cadillac. When Cadillac made the small Cimmaron in 1985 it looked a lot different than the full size Caddie;
Those were a MY 1982 debut that was widely panned from new, they disguised it more from the Cavalier as time went on. A later one with lots of equipment and a V6 might be kind of cool for what it is.
Describes the C/E/S class, the 3/5/7 series from BMW, and the A4/A6/A8 sedans from Audi.
Curious that none of the American brands adopted that strategy.
Many years ago, before many of you were born, Ford came out with the 1960 Comet which was sold by Mercury dealers. People who had more expensive T-Birds, and Galaxy 500s complained the less expensive Comet had a look that resembled their cars. I think the Big 3 shied away from making models resemble each other after that happened...but it didn't stop the Europeans from doing it.
I don't know about that, seems to me that the big three started to clone cars among their brand names in the 60's.
All I know is I remember reading about the complaints at the time....that the lower priced Comet bothered T-Bird owners because they looked too similar. I checked to see if I could find any info to confirm it and I got an article that was very current.......explaining the same problem. Off hand, I can't think of a case where the smaller and/or less expensive cars looked similar to their bigger mates, like a C Class and an S Class do...or BMWs or Audis. Maybe class doesn't matter as much in Europe...lol
Well the one thing that pops up in my mind is the Trans Am/Camero same car with a slightly different skin. Also refresh my memory wasn't the Bonneville/Impala/Le Sabre pretty much the same car with just slight differences with the look?
Yes, in that case the Camaro was for Chevy dealers to sell and the Firebird (Trans Am) was for Pontiac dealers, similar with Bonneville, LeSabre and Impala, or Ford and Mercury, they made the same basic car for different lines, but each had it's own distinctive style. But they didn't take one of their larger models, like a large Cadillac, and make a smaller cheaper version, that was say the size of a Corvair....and use the same styling as say the larger Cadillac. When Cadillac made the small Cimmaron in 1985 it looked a lot different than the full size Caddie;
Those were a MY 1982 debut that was widely panned from new, they disguised it more from the Cavalier as time went on. A later one with lots of equipment and a V6 might be kind of cool for what it is.
Describes the C/E/S class, the 3/5/7 series from BMW, and the A4/A6/A8 sedans from Audi.
Curious that none of the American brands adopted that strategy.
Many years ago, before many of you were born, Ford came out with the 1960 Comet which was sold by Mercury dealers. People who had more expensive T-Birds, and Galaxy 500s complained the less expensive Comet had a look that resembled their cars. I think the Big 3 shied away from making models resemble each other after that happened...but it didn't stop the Europeans from doing it.
I don't know about that, seems to me that the big three started to clone cars among their brand names in the 60's.
All I know is I remember reading about the complaints at the time....that the lower priced Comet bothered T-Bird owners because they looked too similar. I checked to see if I could find any info to confirm it and I got an article that was very current.......explaining the same problem. Off hand, I can't think of a case where the smaller and/or less expensive cars looked similar to their bigger mates, like a C Class and an S Class do...or BMWs or Audis. Maybe class doesn't matter as much in Europe...lol
Well the one thing that pops up in my mind is the Trans Am/Camero same car with a slightly different skin. Also refresh my memory wasn't the Bonneville/Impala/Le Sabre pretty much the same car with just slight differences with the look?
Yes, in that case the Camaro was for Chevy dealers to sell and the Firebird (Trans Am) was for Pontiac dealers, similar with Bonneville, LeSabre and Impala, or Ford and Mercury, they made the same basic car for different lines, but each had it's own distinctive style. But they didn't take one of their larger models, like a large Cadillac, and make a smaller cheaper version, that was say the size of a Corvair....and use the same styling as say the larger Cadillac. When Cadillac made the small Cimmaron in 1985 it looked a lot different than the full size Caddie;
Those were a MY 1982 debut that was widely panned from new, they disguised it more from the Cavalier as time went on. A later one with lots of equipment and a V6 might be kind of cool for what it is.
See the thread ‘Who Killed the Cimmarron?’ @fintail started. Good detail there. My 82 was a nice car other than being very underpowered even with the 4 sp manual.
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@sb55 said:
I've got one. Now that you are a northerner, take a short trip up the Northway. I'll even hop the ferry to meet you in Plattsburgh.
Did not know that. You selling or just offering a look over? 😁
I did discover from some research that Carvana apparently cornered the market on used Miata’s. Almost every one advertised for sale is from them. Mostly at crazy prices too. That stinks.
I've got one. Now that you are a northerner, take a short trip up the Northway. I'll even hop the ferry to meet you in Plattsburgh.
Did not know that. You selling or just offering a look over? 😁
I did discover from some research that Carvana apparently cornered the market on used Miata’s. Almost every one advertised for sale is from them. Mostly at crazy prices too. That stinks.
Sorry, but I'm keeping it. Just to see if you fit and want a good test drive. How about up route 9, over the Rouses Point Bridge, down route 2 through the Islands and back to the ferry? It's a PRHT, but headroom is similar to the soft top.
Thanks for the offer. We are planning on a weekend in Burlington but that won’t be happening until spring. I think there are a couple around here I can stop to see. Unfortunately automatics but should be able to tell anyway most of what I need.
There is a current-model HT Miata that apparently lives nearby since I see it on my street fairly often. When it goes past I wonder how anyone other than a jockey can fit behind the wheel. It looks *really* tiny with the hardtop in place.
See the thread ‘Who Killed the Cimmarron?’ @fintail started. Good detail there. My 82 was a nice car other than being very underpowered even with the 4 sp manual.
See the thread ‘Who Killed the Cimmarron?’ @fintail started. Good detail there. My 82 was a nice car other than being very underpowered even with the 4 sp manual.
Where is that found?
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See the thread ‘Who Killed the Cimmarron?’ @fintail started. Good detail there. My 82 was a nice car other than being very underpowered even with the 4 sp manual.
The Cimarron was a very unhappy chapter in Cadillac history. The dealers were hurting in the early ‘80s and were screaming for a smaller car to sell against the German imports running around Beverly Hills. In typical fashion for GM at the time, having lost sight of their original goal, they redoubled their efforts and brought out a tarted-up Cavalier that fooled nobody as to its origins, with a stratospheric price tag and not enough power to pull the skin off a pudding. As the article posted notes, by the end they had finally made it decent at least, but by then it was too late.
My maternal grandmother drove an early 60's Comet. I have very dim memories of it, as she traded it in for a '67 Monterey coupe. That thing was massive.
My father had one as well- even as a toddler I could sense it was built to a very low price.
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Thanks, that was fun to look at and I saw some interesting old and same faces. I liked this statement;
RE; 1982 Cimmaron: rated at 88hp, but torque was much better with the 2 litre. Some chassis changes were made that improved ride and handling. Remember the speed limit during this period was 55 mph. With the automatic the 82 did 0-60 in 15.8 sec, qtr mile 22 sec at 65 mph.
I wonder if Cadillac will ever bring back the Cimmaron nameplate?
Thanks, that was fun to look at and I saw some interesting old and same faces. I liked this statement;
RE; 1982 Cimmaron: rated at 88hp, but torque was much better with the 2 litre. Some chassis changes were made that improved ride and handling. Remember the speed limit during this period was 55 mph. With the automatic the 82 did 0-60 in 15.8 sec, qtr mile 22 sec at 65 mph.
I wonder if Cadillac will ever bring back the Cimmaron nameplate?
There is a current-model HT Miata that apparently lives nearby since I see it on my street fairly often. When it goes past I wonder how anyone other than a jockey can fit behind the wheel. It looks *really* tiny with the hardtop in place.
I know that a 6’2” old man can fit in one.
Not comfortably.
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I really need to find a nice NC Maita to try out. I think I can actually fit in one of those well enough to drive it.
I've got one. Now that you are a northerner, take a short trip up the Northway. I'll even hop the ferry to meet you in Plattsburgh.
You’d deprive him of the ferry ride? The Plattsburgh-Burlington run is called “vacation time” where I work.🥰
Ferry is closed for the season but looks like a fun thing for the spring or summer. Though it is quicker to just drive directly to Burlington!
I had unlimited headroom in my NB Miata. With the top down, which it almost always was. Also fine top up, but the header blocked view a bit. My problem was not enough room for my legs and feet.
I really need to find a nice NC Maita to try out. I think I can actually fit in one of those well enough to drive it.
I've got one. Now that you are a northerner, take a short trip up the Northway. I'll even hop the ferry to meet you in Plattsburgh.
You’d deprive him of the ferry ride? The Plattsburgh-Burlington run is called “vacation time” where I work.🥰
Ferry is closed for the season but looks like a fun thing for the spring or summer. Though it is quicker to just drive directly to Burlington!
I had unlimited headroom in my NB Miata. With the top down, which it almost always was. Also fine top up, but the header blocked view a bit. My problem was not enough room for my legs and feet.
The ferry from Plattsburgh to Grand Isle is year round, 24/7. The ferry to Burlington from Pt. Kent has been closed for 3 years and is probably not going to be resumed. The ferry company is happier building boat slips and probably soon a hotel at the terminal.
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It's tempting, big windows, very square, flat panels.....hmmmmmm
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I like those. No clue if I fit. Looks like a nice example. I’d take it if I had the workshop space and tools to work on it myself.
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Was it any better by 1986?
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When Cadillac made the small Cimmaron in 1985 it looked a lot different than the full size Caddie;
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4.2 AMC Gremlin (1970–78)
4.3 Chevrolet Vega (1971–77)
4.4 Ford Pinto (1971–80)
4.5 Morris Marina (1971–80)
4.6 Vauxhall HC Viva "Firenza" (Canada) (1971–73)
4.7 Lancia Beta (1972–84)
4.8 Reliant Robin/Rialto (1973–2002)
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Well the us didn’t get a bunch of those.
And the gremlin got an unfair bad rap
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We’ve been getting ready for that tropical storm east of us which is forecast to become a CAT 1 hurricane tomorrow night. Right now they predict it to make landfall in Palm Beach County or the Vero Beach area which is about 45-90 miles north of me. I am 3 miles south of Palm Beach County. But the winds of 35-70 mph extend out over 300 miles. This is a huge storm, especially this late in the hurricane season.
I went food shopping this morning - Publix was empty which really surprised me. They had full shelves of every item. My daughter lives in Boynton Beach (3-4 blocks north of Delray Beach) 3 blocks from the ocean on US-1. Since they are expecting a 4-5 foot storm surge up there, she will need to evacuate. She will come to me along with those children of hers - 2 young cats. Ahhhh, my dreams (nightmares) of sharing my condo with 2 cats is coming to realization.
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My first new car was a ‘66 Bonneville 2 door hardtop. I personally never thought it had anything in common with an Impala or Le Sabre other than they were all GM cars.
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Actually it's a perfect car. It's small enough that when it breaks down (and it will) you can pick it up and carry it to the garage.
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That's not a pic of the exact unit, but right color. Not common, as you can imagine, so I have no gauge what they go for in Japan. I'm taking a guess at a price I'm comfortable with and we'll see what happens. I could be way under.
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When I was a kid, a neighbor had a green one, and even in 1984 I saw it as an unusual loud car, I bet they depreciated nicely.
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Did not know that. You selling or just offering a look over? 😁
I did discover from some research that Carvana apparently cornered the market on used Miata’s. Almost every one advertised for sale is from them. Mostly at crazy prices too. That stinks.
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Did not know that. You selling or just offering a look over? 😁
I did discover from some research that Carvana apparently cornered the market on used Miata’s. Almost every one advertised for sale is from them. Mostly at crazy prices too. That stinks.
Sorry, but I'm keeping it. Just to see if you fit and want a good test drive. How about up route 9, over the Rouses Point Bridge, down route 2 through the Islands and back to the ferry? It's a PRHT, but headroom is similar to the soft top.
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See the thread ‘Who Killed the Cimmarron?’ @fintail started. Good detail there. My 82 was a nice car other than being very underpowered even with the 4 sp manual.
Yeh, I'd like to know too, I'll read it for sure.
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Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
RE; 1982 Cimmaron: rated at 88hp, but torque was much better with the 2 litre. Some chassis changes were made that improved ride and handling. Remember the speed limit during this period was 55 mph. With the automatic the 82 did 0-60 in 15.8 sec, qtr mile 22 sec at 65 mph.
I wonder if Cadillac will ever bring back the Cimmaron nameplate?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
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2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Not comfortably.
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I had unlimited headroom in my NB Miata. With the top down, which it almost always was. Also fine top up, but the header blocked view a bit. My problem was not enough room for my legs and feet.
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