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For example: I'm getting 2015 528xi, msrp is 58K,
Lease 12K for 39 months - 515/- including everything (7% tax)... $1900 down.
And this is not just one place.. all dealers are giving the similar prices.
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Can you run the math for me using:
2015 535i with Msport, Premium, driver asst, driver asst plus, silver
MSRP: 65,450.00
Selling Price: 57,859.00 (includes 2K holiday credit)
12K miles
39 month lease.
Do you know the RV for 12K miles is?
MF .0013
Tax here is 6% here.
Im trying figure out what my monthly should be.
Can I do better on selling price?
Is there any loyalty cash?
With your numbers, I get a pre-tax payment of $602.91; with 6% tax, $639.08.
$5K off sticker before holiday credit seems pretty good.
No loyalty cash that I'm aware of - check the "Car Research" tab at the top of the page for current incentives.
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I'm trying to pull the trigger on either 2014 or 2015 528ix this Friday. Can I have MF and RV for 36/12k term please? Thank you!
2015: .00130 MF and 60% residual for 39 months, 12K/yr. $2000 Holiday Credit
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1) Is there any spreadsheet that you guys can share, into which I can plug in purchase price, MF, RV etc to determine the lease payment? I tried a couple of spreadsheets from the internet, on the lease offers on the BMW website, but it gives something way higher than what is listed, even after I factor in the incentives.
2) Is 7 MSD the max permissible? I am trying to keep my monthly pmt low, wanted to max out the MSD and then contribute additional down payment, maybe additional 3K. Are there any suggestions here? This is my first time leasing. I am assuming that 100% of the MSD is returned at the end of the lease.
3) My edmunds "pricepromise" value for a 2015 528i is $52,670 excluding taxes/fees for the options that I picked. What MF and RV should I be looking for, and what does the payment come out to be, with and without tax? I am in the San Francisco bay area.
4) If I had to order a custom build, what is the typical delivery time? There are not too many vehicles in the bay area with my color/options requirements, I am wondering whether ordering is a feasible option. I am not in a hurry, but wanted to take advantage of the holiday offers.
Thank you all,
SA
1) Can't help you with the spreadsheet.
2) 7 MSD is the max. Security deposits are always reduced by any money owed at lease end, but the size of the deposit has no effect. The person inspecting your car has no information about your deposit, so that won't affect any lease-end charges. I've never had an issue.
3) .00130 MF and 58% residual for 39 months, 15K/yr. $2000 Holiday Credit.
We would need the MSRP to calculate a payment.
4) I would think 6-10 weeks on a car coming from Germany, but you should check with your dealer.
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Any dealer cash?
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Black friday lease deals are for a 535i, MSRP $62,100, $4774 down (incl. fees/1st month/etc), $549 mo for 39/10k.
Texas. So, I have to deal with paying all the tax up front. But, they are telling me that they will take care of that....but I'm not seeing it on the offer provided. Here are the numbers they gave me. Something just doesn't seem right, so I walked.
So, the car I settled on is:
MSRP: $63,550
Selling price: $58,700
Tax: $3786.97
Fees etc. makes Balance Due $62736.47
The numbers provided are $4774 due at signing, $595/mo. I'm told that is the payment, no tax added since it's paid up front.
So, what am I missing? Or is this a good deal?
Residual is calculated off the MSRP.
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2014 - 58% for 36/15. $1500 holiday cash
2015 - 58% for 39/15. $2000 holiday cash.
Extra miles are charged at .10-.25 per and deducted from the residual.
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Ask them for a detailed breakdown of the money due at signing.
TX taxes the entire selling price - you can choose to pay it up front or roll it into the lease.
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$3500 cap cost reduction
$750 acquisition
The remainder is misc fees...title, inspection, etc.
This is supposed to believe the Black Friday deal BMW FS is running. $549mo, but for a MSRP of $62100. The car I'm looking at is a bit more.
Again, they are telling me that the tax will be paid by them. He told me when I went into the box to sign, I would see the taxes zeroed out at "the back end"......whatever that means.
If true, and I'm paying the other fees up front, can you please run the numbers on this deal? Plugging them in myself doesn't make sense. I guess it's $58700 - 3500........so $55200? I was using .0013 and 61%.
I have no idea if that's right.
Also, should I feel like I must rush to get this deal? I'm told it's only available until Monday.
528i xDrive
Base Price - $52,250
Imperial Blue Metallic - $550
Cold Weather Package - $950
Luxury Line - $2,000
Premium Package - $2,600
Park Distance Control - $750
Rear View Camera - $400
Destination and Handling - $950
TOTAL MSRP - $60,450
The dealership is giving me $2,000 holiday credit and another $3475 off of sticker price to bring the Total Cap Cost down to $54,975. Salesperson says that leaves them with a $750 profit. Do you think I can get the MSRP down more?
Originally the MF was .0017. I offered to do 7 MSD and it brought the MF to .00121 Does that sound right?
Upon signing due up front are:
First month - $626.90 - (Base is $590.02 + $36.88)
Bank Aqu Fee - $982.81
License Plates - $452.69
7 MSD - $4,200
TOTAL DUE AT SIGNING - $6,262.40
Overall what do you think about this deal? Where are there places I can further negotiate?
Down Payment 2.5 K
MSD -3850
Monthly payment = %510
12k/Year
39 month lease.
Please let me know how is the deal?
It's possible that BMW has tax credits in Texas that they are passing along to the customer, this month... If so, that's a huge bonus, as tax runs close to $100/mo. on a car of this price.
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They are marking up the money factor from the base amount of .00130 (or, .00081 with 7 MSDs).. Also, marking up the acquisition fee from $725 to $925 (assume the extra is tax on the acq.fee).
Your selling price looks good... I would focus on getting the base acq.fee and money factor, rather than further price reductions. Those two items are adding about $40/mo, post-tax to your deal..
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Did you get the base money factor? I'd need to know the breakdown of your $2500 to comment further (is it all cap reduction, or is it the total amount due at signing?). Does the deal include tax? If so, what state and tax rate?
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Thanks again!
Looks like you are getting the base money factor, but your Amount Due at Signing doesn't really add up...
What's the deal with $1900 for tire insurance? Is that included in the $52,925? That seems excessive.. $4350 is a lot to put upfront (outside of the MSDs). You have a lot of numbers there, and it looks like a lot of opportunity to hide extra costs...
You need a breakdown of the CAP cost. What's in the Gross CAP cost, and the NET CAP cost. Ask what money factor is being used.
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The base MF is .00130, and after 7 MSDs it should be .00081. Anything over that is extra profit for the dealer.
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Are you shopping more than one dealer?
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MSRP - 58,550.
Selling price - 49950.
12K miles, 39 months,
$537 x 38 months
Down - $1943
Including NJ 7% tax.
Based on the prices posted above I think it's a good deal.
Seems like you did very well. Enjoy your new BMW!
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Btw, this pricing I got through online query from their internet dept. When I went there, they straight-ward said, no scope for negotiation. So it was pretty quick transaction.
No wasting time and no going again and again to manager after every sentence you say.
BMW numbers aren't scheduled to change for December. Current program runs through end of the year.
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Unless they change it, yes..
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Thanks again for your help.
Looks like a pretty good deal on a $60K car..
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Terms: 10K / 39mos
MSRP: 63,965
Residual: 39,018 (61%)
Sales Price: 56,737
Acquisition Fee: 725
Due at signing: 1,210
Monthly payment: 594 plus tax
You are getting over $5K off the MSRP before applying the holiday cash - not sure how much there is left to come down.
Using the .00130 base MF with the numbers you've provided, I get a pre-tax payment of $578.80.
The best way to lower the payment would be to use MSD to buy down the MF.
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Looking for 36/10.
also, what is the holiday cash BMW is offering for the M5.
Thanks,
RM
$2000 holiday cash.
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Thank you in advance for your help and opinion.
Here's my deal. It's just a little different because the car is a "corporate" car that only has 4500 miles but I am getting the lease deal like a new car.
2014 535i xdrive MSRP $63150 Sale Price $52000
36mo/20k will be $655/month (that includes taxes Indiana)
$5569 at delivery ($4900 is MSD)
Adjusted Residual $33546
Lease Rate Factor .0008
I don't have complete numbers yet on the fees that would give me an exact cap cost. But this sounds like a good deal. What do you think?
If you need 20K miles per year, why not buy? The extra 15,000 miles will cost you in the neighborhood of $3000, or $83/mo.
Still, $655/mo with taxes for a car that stickers at $63K is a pretty good deal.
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