2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Lease Questions

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  • bfactor84bfactor84 Member Posts: 27
    edited July 2015
    Thank you! when do they typically release incentive information?
  • kic74kic74 Member Posts: 13
    I had asked earlier about MF and Residual on Overland 4x4. I'm working numbers with dealer now and we have agreed on sale price, residual and MF. They were willing to give me their deal structure print out upon leaving the store to think things over. I now notice they have my down payment added to the Adjusted Cap Cost. Shouldn't money down lower the adj cap cost?

    Thanks
  • don2428don2428 Member Posts: 6
    I was given this offer...Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4... 36/10k... MSRP:47590...Selling price with all incentives:42910....0 down....638 a month...Does this look like a good deal?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    bfactor84 said:

    Thank you! when do they typically release incentive information?

    Use the "Car Research" tab at the top of the page to see the current customer incentives.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    kic74 said:

    I had asked earlier about MF and Residual on Overland 4x4. I'm working numbers with dealer now and we have agreed on sale price, residual and MF. They were willing to give me their deal structure print out upon leaving the store to think things over. I now notice they have my down payment added to the Adjusted Cap Cost. Shouldn't money down lower the adj cap cost?

    Thanks

    Generally, yes. Can you post the numbers for us to review?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    don2428 said:

    I was given this offer...Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4... 36/10k... MSRP:47590...Selling price with all incentives:42910....0 down....638 a month...Does this look like a good deal?

    .00001 and 51% for 36/10. With your MSRP and selling price, I get a pre-tax payment of $518.42.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is; there might be some fees added into your selling price that accounts for the difference.

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  • kic74kic74 Member Posts: 13
    edited July 2015
    Michaell said:

    kic74 said:

    I had asked earlier about MF and Residual on Overland 4x4. I'm working numbers with dealer now and we have agreed on sale price, residual and MF. They were willing to give me their deal structure print out upon leaving the store to think things over. I now notice they have my down payment added to the Adjusted Cap Cost. Shouldn't money down lower the adj cap cost?

    Thanks

    Generally, yes. Can you post the numbers for us to review?
    Sure, here are the numbers:

    MSRP: $48780
    Sale Price: $44500 (includes incentives)
    MF: .00039
    Residual: $25863.40
    Term: 36/10
    Deal Fee: $80.50
    Doc Fee: $250
    Tax: $1572.46
    Due at Signing: $616.36

    Cap Cost is listed as: $48902.96
    Adjusted or Net Cap Cost is listed as: $47019.32

    One arrives at $47019.32 by adding sale price, deal fee, doc fee, taxes AND money down at signing. I think the Adjusted Cap Cost should be $45786.60, which is sale price, deal fee, doc fee and tax but LESS the money down at signing. Maybe I'm wrong.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    kic74 said:

    Michaell said:

    kic74 said:

    I had asked earlier about MF and Residual on Overland 4x4. I'm working numbers with dealer now and we have agreed on sale price, residual and MF. They were willing to give me their deal structure print out upon leaving the store to think things over. I now notice they have my down payment added to the Adjusted Cap Cost. Shouldn't money down lower the adj cap cost?

    Thanks

    Generally, yes. Can you post the numbers for us to review?
    Sure, here are the numbers:

    MSRP: $48780
    Sale Price: $44500 (includes incentives)
    MF: .00039
    Residual: $25863.40
    Term: 36/10
    Deal Fee: $80.50
    Doc Fee: $250
    Tax: $1572.46
    Due at Signing: $616.36

    Cap Cost is listed as: $48902.96
    Adjusted or Net Cap Cost is listed as: $47019.32

    One arrives at $47019.32 by adding sale price, deal fee, doc fee, taxes AND money down at signing. I think the Adjusted Cap Cost should be $45786.60, which is sale price, deal fee, doc fee, tax LESS money down at signing. Maybe I'm wrong.
    What state is this? Tax obligations on a lease vary based on where you live.

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  • kic74kic74 Member Posts: 13
    Ohio
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    kic74 said:

    Ohio

    I believe Ohio calculates the tax for the lease up front and you can choose to add it to the cap cost or pay it when you sign the paperwork. Looks like you are doing the former.

    Ask the dealer to account for the math difference ... could be an honest mistake. Then again .....

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  • kic74kic74 Member Posts: 13
    edited July 2015
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding your response. I'm not questioning the tax being applied to the cap cost. The tax of $1572.46 is already being added in and the monthly payments they are quoting me are all in (tax,finance charge, lease charge, etc). That part make sense to me.

    I'm questioning why the money due at signing ($616.36) is increasing the adjusted cap cost? It should lower it in my mind. Let's say - rather than putting $616 down, I decide to put down $6616 - that shouldn't make my adjusted cap cost go up $6k.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    kic74 said:

    Maybe I'm misunderstanding your response. I'm not questioning the tax being applied to the cap cost. The tax of $1572.46 is already being added in and the monthly payments they are quoting me are all in (tax,finance charge, lease charge, etc). That part make sense to me.

    I'm questioning why the money due at signing ($616.36) is increasing the adjusted cap cost? It should lower it in my mind. Let's say - rather than putting $616 down, I decide to put down $6616 - that shouldn't make my adjusted cap cost go up $6k.

    You are correct, which is why I recommend you walk through the numbers with the dealer VERY carefully. Also, make sure that the $616 is cap cost reduction (down payment) and not used for something else.

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  • kic74kic74 Member Posts: 13
    Thanks, Michaell. I appreciate the advice. Will do!
  • jsschujsschu Member Posts: 9
    Does this quote make sense to anyone?

  • jsschujsschu Member Posts: 9
    jsschu said:
    Does this quote make sense to anyone?

    This is for a 2015 grand Cherokee V8 Overland 4x4. 12k yr/ 36 months.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    jsschu said:
    jsschu said:
    Does this quote make sense to anyone?

    This is for a 2015 grand Cherokee V8 Overland 4x4. 12k yr/ 36 months.
    I'm within a few cents of your quote. Base MF and a decent discount. If you're comfortable with the numbers, no reason not to pull the trigger. 

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  • jsschujsschu Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:
    jsschu said:
    jsschu said:
    Does this quote make sense to anyone?

    This is for a 2015 grand Cherokee V8 Overland 4x4. 12k yr/ 36 months.
    I'm within a few cents of your quote. Base MF and a decent discount. If you're comfortable with the numbers, no reason not to pull the trigger. 
    Thanks Michaell. Does the MF seem right to you? With that value, the money factor is only accounting for 0.72 cents of the monthly payment.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    jsschu said:


    Michaell said:


    jsschu said:


    jsschu said:

    Does this quote make sense to anyone?


    This is for a 2015 grand Cherokee V8 Overland 4x4. 12k yr/ 36 months.

    I'm within a few cents of your quote. Base MF and a decent discount. If you're comfortable with the numbers, no reason not to pull the trigger. 

    Thanks Michaell. Does the MF seem right to you? With that value, the money factor is only accounting for 0.72 cents of the monthly payment.

    Yes, that is the correct MF. Very cheap money, if you ask me.

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  • jsstaffordjsstafford Member Posts: 1
    Just received a lease quote from dealer in Atlanta area on a 2015 GC Altitude 4x4.

    MSRP: $40,830
    Discounts: $3,000
    trade in value: $4,500
    money factor: .00013
    Residual: $20,415
    Tax rate is 7%, GA total tax is calculated into payment.
    $595 total fees, no sec deposit

    they offered a payment of $459 for 36 month, 10k/year.

    Seems high but wanted another option.  
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707

    Just received a lease quote from dealer in Atlanta area on a 2015 GC Altitude 4x4.

    MSRP: $40,830
    Discounts: $3,000
    trade in value: $4,500
    money factor: .00013
    Residual: $20,415
    Tax rate is 7%, GA total tax is calculated into payment.
    $595 total fees, no sec deposit

    they offered a payment of $459 for 36 month, 10k/year.

    Seems high but wanted another option.  

    Confirm the .00013 MF and the 36/10 residual is 51%.

    Be advised that the sales tax in GA is applied to the entire selling price, which increases your payment greatly compared to other states.

    We also do not recommend using trade equity as a down payment - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money.

    What is the net cap cost?

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  • don2428don2428 Member Posts: 6
    OK so I am ready to pull the trigger on this deal. Does it sound like a good one.

    2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4
    MSRP 47950
    Selling price 38900
    580.00 a month
    NY tax and all fees rolled into payment
    580 due at signing
    does this sound like a good deal?
  • bagel5bagel5 Member Posts: 9
    Wondering if someone could help check the below figures, as I'm getting a different monthly lease payment using them then the dealer provided.

    MSRP 42,400
    Selling Price 38,012
    Rebate: 2,500
    Net Price 35,512
    License/Reg/Doc: 1,008
    MF: .00035
    Res: 53%
    Sales tax 7.4% (NJ)
    Payment: 501/month (36 months, 0 down)

    I get a significantly different monthly payment (441/month) so must be making a mistake?
  • apdspiderapdspider Member Posts: 61
    Need MF RV for 2015 Overland 4x2 
    36 mos
    12k year
    rhanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    don2428 said:

    OK so I am ready to pull the trigger on this deal. Does it sound like a good one.

    2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4
    MSRP 47950
    Selling price 38900
    580.00 a month
    NY tax and all fees rolled into payment
    580 due at signing
    does this sound like a good deal?

    .00001 MF and 48% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr.
    What term and mileage on this quote?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    bagel5 said:

    Wondering if someone could help check the below figures, as I'm getting a different monthly lease payment using them then the dealer provided.

    MSRP 42,400
    Selling Price 38,012
    Rebate: 2,500
    Net Price 35,512
    License/Reg/Doc: 1,008
    MF: .00035
    Res: 53%
    Sales tax 7.4% (NJ)
    Payment: 501/month (36 months, 0 down)

    I get a significantly different monthly payment (441/month) so must be making a mistake?

    You need to know the final CAP cost with everything included.
    We need to know the trim line, term and mileage to check the numberss.
    How much is due at signing?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    apdspider said:

    Need MF RV for 2015 Overland 4x2 
    36 mos
    12k year
    rhanks

    .00045 MF and 50% residual

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  • bagel5bagel5 Member Posts: 9
    kyfdx said:

    bagel5 said:

    Wondering if someone could help check the below figures, as I'm getting a different monthly lease payment using them then the dealer provided.

    MSRP 42,400
    Selling Price 38,012
    Rebate: 2,500
    Net Price 35,512
    License/Reg/Doc: 1,008
    MF: .00035
    Res: 53%
    Sales tax 7.4% (NJ)
    Payment: 501/month (36 months, 0 down)

    I get a significantly different monthly payment (441/month) so must be making a mistake?

    You need to know the final CAP cost with everything included.
    We need to know the trim line, term and mileage to check the numberss.
    How much is due at signing?

    Hi - thanks for the reply! Its a JGC Limited 4x4. Res is 53%, 36/10k lease. The quote assumes only first payment is due at signing. He didn't provide any more info but based on the above, I believe the cap cost would 36,520, excluding tax. There are no other costs. Thanks!
  • don2428don2428 Member Posts: 6
    kyfdx said:

    don2428 said:

    OK so I am ready to pull the trigger on this deal. Does it sound like a good one.

    2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4
    MSRP 47950
    Selling price 38900
    580.00 a month
    NY tax and all fees rolled into payment
    580 due at signing
    does this sound like a good deal?

    .00001 MF and 48% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr.
    What term and mileage on this quote?
    36/10k
  • scusyxxscusyxx Member Posts: 16
    What is the MF and RV for 4x4 Limited? 36/10k
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    bagel5 said:

    kyfdx said:

    bagel5 said:

    Wondering if someone could help check the below figures, as I'm getting a different monthly lease payment using them then the dealer provided.

    MSRP 42,400
    Selling Price 38,012
    Rebate: 2,500
    Net Price 35,512
    License/Reg/Doc: 1,008
    MF: .00035
    Res: 53%
    Sales tax 7.4% (NJ)
    Payment: 501/month (36 months, 0 down)

    I get a significantly different monthly payment (441/month) so must be making a mistake?

    You need to know the final CAP cost with everything included.
    We need to know the trim line, term and mileage to check the numberss.
    How much is due at signing?

    Hi - thanks for the reply! Its a JGC Limited 4x4. Res is 53%, 36/10k lease. The quote assumes only first payment is due at signing. He didn't provide any more info but based on the above, I believe the cap cost would 36,520, excluding tax. There are no other costs. Thanks!
    Assuming tax is around $1275, I get about $445/mo.

    You'll have to ask them the CAP cost and how they arrived at it. I'll guess it will all become clear at that point.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    don2428 said:

    kyfdx said:

    don2428 said:

    OK so I am ready to pull the trigger on this deal. Does it sound like a good one.

    2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4
    MSRP 47950
    Selling price 38900
    580.00 a month
    NY tax and all fees rolled into payment
    580 due at signing
    does this sound like a good deal?

    .00001 MF and 48% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr.
    What term and mileage on this quote?
    36/10k
    Without any taxes or fees, I get $401/mo. To get to $580/mo., there would have to be another $6400 in charges added to the CAP cost.. So, something is way off. Taxes and fees shouldn't even be half of that amount..

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    scusyxx said:

    What is the MF and RV for 4x4 Limited? 36/10k

    .00035 MF and 53% residual

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  • tms305tms305 Member Posts: 12
    Thanks for all the helpful info on here. I am looking for the MF and residual on a 2015 JGC Overland--36 months, 10k miles per year. Thanks in advance. 
  • nyc917nyc917 Member Posts: 4
    4x4 limited v6 NY
    39mo/12k
    2500 down 
    $475 monthly

    does this sound like a good deal?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    tms305 said:

    Thanks for all the helpful info on here. I am looking for the MF and residual on a 2015 JGC Overland--36 months, 10k miles per year. Thanks in advance. 

    I'll assume 4x4 ... the numbers are .00001 and 51%.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    nyc917 said:

    4x4 limited v6 NY
    39mo/12k
    2500 down 
    $475 monthly

    does this sound like a good deal?

    MSRP? Selling price? Breakdown of the $2500?

    Can't fully evaluate without that information.

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  • jgcvajgcva Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2015
    Is the 0.0001 money factor for the Overland good for the month? Dealer telling me it ends today.
    And is it 0.0001 or 0.00001?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    jgcva said:
    Is the 0.0001 money factor for the Overland good for the month? Dealer telling me it ends today. And is it 0.0001 or 0.00001?
    Four zeros. We show these numbers good through 8/3/15

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  • csnyder335icsnyder335i Member Posts: 50
    Can you provide the MF and residual for a JGC 4x4 Summit 36/15k?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707

    Can you provide the MF and residual for a JGC 4x4 Summit 36/15k?

    .00070 and 48%

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  • geminiramgeminiram Member Posts: 82
    Hi is this a good lease deal on a 2015 JGC 4x2 Altitude for 36/12k miles in CA?

    MSRP: $38,830
    Net cap cost: $33,851
    $0 drive off, payment will include tax, registration, and all other fees
    $469/month through Chrysler Capital
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    geminiram said:

    Hi is this a good lease deal on a 2015 JGC 4x2 Altitude for 36/12k miles in CA?

    MSRP: $38,830
    Net cap cost: $33,851
    $0 drive off, payment will include tax, registration, and all other fees
    $469/month through Chrysler Capital

    .00035 and 49%. If the tax rate is 9%, then $469 is spot on.

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  • tfmiatfmia Member Posts: 5
    I am currently negotiating on a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x2. What is the current money factor and residual for this model? Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    tfmia said:
    I am currently negotiating on a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x2. What is the current money factor and residual for this model? Thanks
    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • tfmiatfmia Member Posts: 5
    Sorry 39 months, 12k/ year. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    tfmia said:
    Sorry 39 months, 12k/ year. Thanks
    .00048 and 49%

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  • njtony37xnjtony37x Member Posts: 13
    Overland 4x4 V6 or V8 lease numbers please for 36/39-Month and 10K miles please. Thanks! :)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    njtony37x said:

    Overland 4x4 V6 or V8 lease numbers please for 36/39-Month and 10K miles please. Thanks! :)

    .00001 and 51% (36/10) and 49% (39/10). No acquisition fee this month.

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  • tfmiatfmia Member Posts: 5
    I am in Florida and here is where the dealer is at on a 4x2 limited MSRP 40,300. negotiated price 36055. 12k/ year.

    When I run the numbers I get $476 tax of 7% included. When he runs the numbers he is getting 501. Do you know where the difference is? Does this seem like a fair deal.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    tfmia said:

    I am in Florida and here is where the dealer is at on a 4x2 limited MSRP 40,300. negotiated price 36055. 12k/ year.

    When I run the numbers I get $476 tax of 7% included. When he runs the numbers he is getting 501. Do you know where the difference is? Does this seem like a fair deal.

    Using the MF and residual I gave you, along with your MSRP and selling price, I get a payment of $513.37/mo with tax. Find out what the net capitalized cost is; if it's higher than the selling price (and I'm betting it is), find out what's been added.

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