2015 Toyota Highlander Lease Questions
I have been shopping around for a week or so in metro Chicago. I finally settled on a 2015 Highlander XLE AWD with the captain's chairs for the second row - $275 option. Base on the car is $37,700+275+885(Delvry/Proc/Handl0=$38,860. The Costco price is Sticker of $39,060 discounted to $36,384. The dealer I am working with is giving me a discounted price of $36,900+402.27(doc/plate/title/etc)+$3,000(sales tax)=$40,302. They won't match Costco and I told him that I wanted to lease it with no money down. He told me that he gets to a lease payment of $575/month for a 36 month lease, 10,000 miles. I asked him for the residual and the money factor - $25,259 residual and 5.52% money factor(0.00230x2,400). The residual % equates to 64.7% of the sticker price. This doesn't add up, I think. I am new to leasing. So, any guidance and thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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I don't have any lease info for Toyota in Illinois, but the Highlander has just about zero lease support, except for the really high residual.. Have you tried another dealer?
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Another question, why wouldn't I put any money down on at lease signing which would lower my lease payment?
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My guess is that they'll be expensive to lease.
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That's a strong residual, but it's only effective for a base model that has an MSRP of $30,300. Toyota residuals are almost impossible to calculate and the higher the MSRP, the lower the effective residual. You actually have to ask the dealer about the exact unit you are interested in, and they look it up on the invoice.
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Can you confirm that the dealer is using TFS for the lease?
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So effectively, the dealer toyota at cool springs in Franklin,TN is offering me $471/month for 15k/36M with $3k down payment. The money factor he's offering me is: .0029, which contributes to 6.9% APR, which I think is on the higher side.
I wanted to check with you guys if this payment is on the higher side, or is this reasonable?
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For the SouthEast Toyota distributorship, I show the base money factor for top tier credit to be .00197.
.0029 is ridiculous... should be plenty of Toyota dealers in Nashville... I'd shop around.
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I finally leased my 2015 FWD XLE Highlander today from Toyota of Cool Springs. Following are the numbers.
1. Selling price: $35,880 (this includes Cargo towers, All weather floor mats, Remote control start) for MSRP - $38,139
2. Money factor of .0019
3. 12k/36
4. $529.98 monthly payment with $1000 down payment (this includes first installment of $529.98)
5. Took a GAP insurance for $500
6. Doc fee - $598
7. Total out-the-door price: $38,015
8. Color Oh la la Rouge
Overall, I'm satisfied with the purchase. Others, please let me know your thoughts on this.
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Asheesh
Thanks!
I'm sorry, but we have no Highlander information. Expect high money factors, but also possibly some high residuals.
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Translation - it's gonna be expensive to lease.
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2015 Highlander LE AWD
MSRP 33,370 Residual 21,882 (65.6%) (after 3 years)
$0 "down" but at signing I would be paying $1330 TOTAL upfront in fees (this INCLUDES 1st month)
money factor of 5.4% (I converted it) and I qualify for Tier 1 credit (not the Tier 1+)
I live in the North East
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So, expect leasing to be expensive.
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I live in the DFW area and am looking to lease a FWD Limited Platinum and would like to know what I am working with. They have 6 of them on the lot, so maybe I have some play, maybe not; at least 4 dealership in a 20 mile radius in DFW...
Thanks for the service you guys provide.
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- Sienna XLE FWD,Model #5348
- San Francisco Area
- Did anyone know if SF toyota use TFS
- What is the Money Factor and residual value?
- What is the Going Cap cost for Sienna XLE FWD,Model #5348?
- What is monthly payment will be ? with the MF and RV?
Is toyota XLE FWD,Model #5348 or Honda odyssey have better lease deal with equivalent Model feature w/leather seat?Toyota dealers can use TFS, but they are not required to.
Use the pricing tools at the top of the page (make / model / year) to help establish a target price. Net cap cost is the target price adjusted for any additional taxes and fees, minus any down payment.
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To compare it to the Honda, we'd also need to know the MSRP and selling price of the car you are interested in.
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He mentioned a documentation and title fee of the following: So I would pay the taxes, fees and first month of lease up front. I want to do security deposits to lower the MF, but that is not going well as you can read from above.
Can you check my math?
Leaving all taxes and other fees out I calculate a $564.71 monthly payment. I would pay the following to drive out First Lease Payment + Taxes + Fees.
This is without MSDs, Each MSD will most likely be $600.00 so I am thinking $3,000 for 5 MSDs to lower my MF to 0.00120 (at least) and thus lowering the monthly payment to $530.80. This would require a $6,435.30 to drive out which seems lofty, but I would get $3,000 back at the return of the lease. This is based on the below calculation: Is it strange to pay taxes all up front or do most include taxes in their loan? What is your opinion on the MSD value to reduce the MF? Any comments on the math from your perspective?
As always, thank you to everyone for what you do!
-Stav
He mentioned a documentation and title fee of the following: So I would pay the taxes, fees and first month of lease up front. I want to do security deposits to lower the MF, but that is not going well as you can read from above.
Can you check my math?
Leaving all taxes and other fees out I calculate a $564.71 monthly payment. I would pay the following to drive out First Lease Payment + Taxes + Fees.
This is without MSDs, Each MSD will most likely be $600.00 so I am thinking $3,000 for 5 MSDs to lower my MF to 0.00120 (at least) and thus lowering the monthly payment to $530.80. This would require a $6,435.30 to drive out which seems lofty, but I would get $3,000 back at the return of the lease. This is based on the below calculation: Is it strange to pay taxes all up front or do most include taxes in their loan? What is your opinion on the MSD value to reduce the MF? Any comments on the math from your perspective?
As always, thank you to everyone for what you do!
-Stav
It's nice that you're working with a Toyota dealer that is so forthcoming with their information.
Texas is one of a few states that taxes the entire selling price of a car for a lease (GA and MD are the other two). This greatly increases your monthly payment when compared to a similar lease in a different state. You can choose to pay those taxes up front at lease inception or add them into the cap cost and pay it off over the life of the lease.
I have no knowledge of an MSD program for Toyota. Given the high base MF for the Highlander, I can't say I'm surprised that one exists.
Using the $44,495 as the MSRP and $42,000 as the net cap cost, along with a 58% residual and .00170 MF, I get a monthly payment of $565.07 - remarkably close to your estimate.
If you're comfortable with the selling price, no reason not to do this deal. Highlanders are expensive to lease under the best of terms; just worse given that you live in Texas.
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Well a new detail just crept in, I was asking if the financing was through Toyota and he stated the following... So I Guess TTL just got a big boost from $279.50 to $924.50, is that most likely the inception fee of $645 on top of the other fees? Probably not something I can argue too much.
The dealer keeps typing "thru" instead of "through", I don't know why that bothers me
Their MSD program by the way lowers MF by 0.00008 per deposit. He indicated that Toyota has a standard deposit of $475 per reduction and can go up to 9 MSDs, which would not be a bad thing. So MF of 0.00098 (from 0.00170) with a $4275.00 MSD... I will crunch the numbers to see where I maximize my MSD value.
Some good news was that he agreed to give 7% off of MSRP which takes the agreed upon price from $44,495 value to $41,380.35; Not too shabby for a highly rated vehicle per many publications and loaded to boot.
At that price it really comes down to Lease or Buy now...
My intent is to return or sell in 3 years so I can have Apple CarPlay in my next vehicle, a very critical feature in my next purchase so that my phone can actually be really useful in the car and not gimped by auto manufactures terrible dash technology. I wanted it this time, but I am a year too early.
If that is my plan, should I buy or lease? Thoughts?
Appreciate the confirmation on our monthly lease estimate, not too sure why I am off, but at that difference it must be a dollar somewhere?
I will come back with updated numbers later today... It is getting exciting.
Seams like a bad deal to me, thoughts?
Agreed, $560/mo is a lot for a Toyota.
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Including your tax in the loan I calculate a payment of $560.26.
This is based on the loan being calculated from the MSRP $43,540, Agreed Upon Price $41,185, CAP cost Reduction (Down Payment of $3,000), 12k/36Month, RV of 59% ($25,821.00), MF 0.0015, Doc Fee ($80), Acquisition Fee ($650), $3,396.21 in CA Taxes.
I do see a "RATE" line on your screenie that indicates 1.8 which would actually translate to a 0.00075 MF which is the lowest I have ever seen, so that must mean something else? Perhaps a purchase APR versus a lease rate? Based on the numbers however I seem to be calculating a MF of 0.0015 which is better than I have seen in DFW for MF values.
When I calculate depreciation ($17,719.00) and multiply it by MF x 36 months I get a rental fee of 956.83 which does seem low to me, so perhaps your MF is higher, but a factor of 0.0001 but that seems fairly insignificant?
So how did the $560.03 get calculated?
The price you agreed to with your dealer is a little more than 5% below MSRP. That is good, but I think they could knock of 2 more percent on the agreed upon price unless demand is still high. I would try and shoot for 6-7% discount from MSRP to help lower the cost, but my math shows $560.26 with $3,000 down.
Thanks