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seems to be my best deal on a v6 ex leather with nav
27145 out the door
includes tax/tags/processing fee
think the dealer also does a appearance pkg that includes wheel locks door gurads etc. included in the processing fee.
hgf> at $23,500 and cap at $24,000.
You need to determine what the rumored current "Marketing Support" is. I don't know it myself. As I wrote in a previous message on this board, if you are in current negotiations with a dealer (or plan to be soon) then it's perfectly reasonable to call one or two up (ask for an Internet department salesman) and ask them if Honda is currently offering Manufacturer to Dealer Cash and in what amount. Then you will know if your assumption is correct and can make the proper calculation of true dealer cost.
As for figuring in a reasonable dealer profit, why not let them watch out for their own interests and you watch out for yours (in other words from your perspective $0 is the correct figure for reasonable dealer profit, they may even agree with you depending on how motivated they are at the time, they may even sell at a loss.) No sense in bidding against yourself by offering a number.
In any event you may find it easier to negotiate without ever leaving your home by asking the area dealers to bid for your business via Fax and/or email. You'll likely uncover the lowest rock bottom price available in your area this way as well,
I have written extensively about how I did this back in January. Go back on this board starting with mid February reading forward and you will see the method in detail.
hgf> This will be a cash deal - does that change anything?
Not really, They are gonna get cash from either you or whoever finances you.
Approach: Call several Honda dealers in your area and speak with the internet manager or the sales manager. Be very clear with what you are looking and, most important, let them know you are definitely buying a Honda Accord and that you need their most aggressive pricing. If you are ready to purchase, I would tell each contact that you will close the deal within 24 hours with the most competitive offer. Make sure that the price they are quoting is for a NEW Accord and ask for the mileage. Once you have the price, you can then ask if the price is reduced whether you pay cash or finance. Again, I would mention this after you have the pricing.
Financing: This is an interesting question. I use to think that paying cash was a plus for the dealer. However, I think that in today's market, dealers prefer you to finance with them as they get a financial incentive. In either case, I don't believe it should change the final price by more than a few dollars. One last note. We took delivery of our silver Accord EX, V6, W/Nav, last week, and financed it with Honda at a rate of 1.9 ( 24 months ). Once you make your purchase, don't worry about thinking you paid a few hundred dollars more than someone else. At that point, it is time for you to enjoy your "smart" purchase. Good luck and let us know how you make out.
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Dan
The more I think about it, I'm really dissapointed in myself, for letting my dad talk me into that warranty.
I may have to look at some of my documents, but itsn't the warranty refundable? Can I cancel it now? If so would I get virtually all of money back (after 1 week), or is there some kind of cancelation fee?
I also helped a friend purchase a similar vehicle (4 cylinder w/o Nav), and I helped we got a pretty good price. Now I helped him throughout the research and negotiation process, but felt the financing process would involve some personal information (ie salary) so I let him handle that on his own. However he purchased the warranty (at a much higher price than I did, $1200 I believe), along with GAP insurance, and some kind of disability insurance. After thinking about it, he realizes that he doesn't really want those. Anyone know if those policies can be canceled? I'm pretty sure the warranty can be canceled, but I don't know about the rest. If so, how will it affect his financing? Will he monthly payments decrease? Or will they just cut him a check for the refunded amount?
Since he has already signed the finance contract the refunds will probably go to the finance company and not to him since the finance company still holds interest in the car. In that case the payments will stay the same but he will have less payments to make in the end. Some companies differ though and may send the refund directly to him.
Best thing to do is call the dealer and/or the companies who actually administer the policies and find out how to cancel and how the refund is handled.
Regarding a refund, I believe you are entitled to a full refund should you cancel in writing within a limited amount of days ( not sure if it is 30 days ). You did not state what type of warranty you purchased. Is it with Honda or another company and what are the terms (length, mileage, deductible,if any). IMHO, if you have an extended warranty with Honda and plan on keeping the car for a long period, I would keep the warranty. Even if you decide to sell prior to the end of the warranty period, I believe it is transferable, so this should add value to the deal. If you purchased the warranty through one of the many warranty providers, I would cancel in a heartbeat because there is no guarantee that these companies will be around in the future. There are a number of stories about such companies denying valid claims posted in Edmunds. No matter what you decide to do, it looks like you made a great deal ( perhaps having Dad there may have helped ). Good luck with your decision!
THanks.
THanks.
I did not buy today.
There is a Holdback of about of about $680 on that vehicle so that could easily account for that price you got. If there was really an $800 incentive (Manufacturer to Dealer) out there then they could reduce that price by at least another $800.00.
do you know which dealer are dealing with? What city, state?
Thank you
$800 Honda to dealer cash on the coupes.
They aren't telling you about it, because it is their money. It should help you negotiate a lower price, but there are no Honda to customer incentives.
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I am trying to buy my first Accord. Having a bit of trouble dealing with my local dealership. I am branching out tomorrow
THanks.
By the way, after my post Friday about the EX/w side curtains offer I received (20,346), another dealer called me Saturday with an offer about $50 lower. If the manufacturer to dealer incentive is $400 on the sedans, that is where latest offer is without the dealer dipping into holdback. While I always want to get the best price I can, I don't bring up holdback in negotiations. But, of course, if he offers, I wouldn't say no. That's what happened when I bought our Jimmy a few years ago. The dealer offered to split his holdback.
Thanks for the help.
I bought my honda accord ex brand new in Jan'2001 with just
7 miles on it. I have never missed a scheduled
maintenance and always took good care of the vehicle. I have had two major problems with it
already, the drivers side window motor stopped
working and the entire unit had to be replaced, and the the cruise control stopped working and
the control unit had to be replaced. All my friends recommended a honda because you could
count on it. From what I have seen, you cannot
count on it. The first problem was fixed because
it was under warranty and the second problem
honda was willing to pay only for the part.
For both the events, I ended up spending about
$500 out of my pocket, after paying about $26000
for the vehicle (including interest at 5.9%).
It just amazes me that in this world
of 10 year auto warranties (hyundai,kia etc) honda is not willing to stand behind their vehicles. I mean sure kia, and hyundai might be cheap cars and you expect this sort of thing to
happen with them, but after paying honda so much
money, it just disgusts me that I have to spend
another $500 to fix issues when driving under
normal conditions.
The customer service manager was really rude, not
even to return a phone call, she had the time to
call the dealer and find out what happend, but
not return my call.
Honda really needs to review their quality. I know
for sure, this is the last honda, I will ever buy.
If I could, I would get rid of this car right now.
I hope this helps others in making a decision. Please dont buy a honda.
Also I have heard the dealer incentive which ends may 31 is $400/$800. One for coupe the other for sedan, but I dont know which is which. Can you help?
$400 for the sedans
$800 for the coupes
Agreed that Honda should up their warranty period, but at least they have been in business for a long time. Will the other car companies that offer a 10 yr warranty be around in ten years? Look what happen to Daewoo.
I'm looking to buy an Accord EX V6 coupe w/Navi. in the next month or so. Just wanted to know if there are any deals out there.
Thanks
Did I get a good price w/ the following offer: Accord V6 Coupe with 6 speed manual transmission for $24,125.80 plus sales tax and applicable fees.
and comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Hyundai offers that warranty because of a poor reputation for reliability. It is a marketing tool. If Honda needed to do that, I am sure they would.
I don't foresee that in Honda's future... I would take a Honda with a 12,000 mile warranty, before I would buy a Hyundai.
regards,
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Thanks.
The Longwood dealership internet manager seems like a good guy, so you might want to try there first.
Thanks in advance.
thank you in advance for your help guys...
Although only two weeks old, this is a great car and, I really, really, like that it only requires 87 octane.
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Make an out the door offer (all fees and taxes included) and ask for bids the same way. As long as you get a fair price, what difference does it make what they charge for their fees?
+ what should be a good price for it ??
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