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2018 430i Gran Coupe
When they released the new 2015 models, they were snapped up in minutes, once the fix was done.
But, now that I think about it, that was the "newer" 2.0 engine.. Maybe, they don't have a fix for the older models?
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So do entry level vintage luxury performance cars from the pre-smog era get excluded too?
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The four-wheel steering is nice on roads like this.
I've driven a 4-cyl base model already (also a 2015) and enjoyed it quite a bit.
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2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
I can, however, get to the mountains, if I wanted ….
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Charger, SRT Hellcat...707 H/P.................. life's short play hard !
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
But the 4-wheel steering on the TLX is enjoyable. I worry now that I won't want a car without this feature in the future. But given that Acuras with good maintenance and some luck tend to last a long time, this is a car that may—knock on wood—be with me for a while.
https://www.theparklands.org/the-vision.html
Actually what the Mini really needs is sticky tires and RWD.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
He took his '86 Accord to 337,000 miles, at which point it ran well, but got rear-ended and totaled.
He currently has a '04 Accord at 184K miles, His plan is to save up for the following 5 years, and then buy his race/sports car.
This came up because he lives very close to where my old S4 is for sale right now.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/volkswagen/passat/2018/2018-volkswagen-passat-first-test-review/
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
The A4 is also a very nice design, and the Audi is maybe the best-looking entry-level luxury car right now imho. The TLX is close, but I do think that the Acura calipers on the front grill are maybe a bit too large, like it's trying a little too hard? I'm getting used to it, but I think the styling details on the Audi are very nice.
I guess the real bargain for leasing when it comes to entry-level luxury cars is the ILX, which is basically the fanciest and most powerful 2015 Civic ever. Still, with a lease price of c. $200 a month it's a good deal for the money. It's close to the same price as leasing a Civic.
Your 2013 Accord EX might be worth c. $11-12k at trade-in, which obviously means that you have a big downpayment. Would you lean toward leasing or buying?
For entry-level luxury cars the lease deals seem better than the purchase deals.
ES 4,551 -31.5%
Cclass 3,841 -21.6%
A4 3,433 +17%
3series 3,185 -22%
Q50 2,397 -7.7%
IS 2,068 -15.3%
TLX 2,046 -18%
MKZ 1,580 -34.1%
Giulia 858 -22%
S60 799 -11.6%
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
What happens when you like driving your new car too much? In just five weeks of ownership I've put c.3300 miles on it on my newly leased TLX Tech. I love the handling, the stereo, the engine, the transmission, the seats, etc. And so I've been going on lots of fun trips to see old friends, driven to sites in town I haven't seen, and I've also been driving to cities I've never before visited. Since I'm a prof. (which perhaps explains a few things) once the school year starts in a couple of weeks I won't be driving so much since I'll be working all the time. So that should slow down the miles, and then I'll also probably start driving my wife's new CR-V sometimes when going back and forth to Lexington.
But yikes....
For the entry-level model TLX probably some are cross-shopping the Accord EXL 1.5, which has an msrp with destination of about $31k. So one way to look at it would be what does the TLX base have that makes it worth $3000 more than an Accord EXL.
Here's my very subjective valuation of what the added features and qualities of the TLX are worth to me personally over an Accord EXL....
The exclusive 4-wheel steering of the TLX would be worth to me as an option at least $1200. The 4WS really helps make the steering better, from parallel parking, to medium speed cornering, to higher speed lane changes. Great system imho.
The 8-speed dual clutch transmission with torque converter is worth at least $800 to me compared to the Accord's CVT.
The better suspension of the TLX compared to the Accord is worth at least $500 to me.
The quieter ride of the TLX is also worth about $500 to me.
The TLX's better and bigger brakes with their "Premium Bosch 6-piston brake modulator" another 500. Plus the ten spoke wheels look better to me on the TLX than the strange designs found on the Accord.
The longer Acura warranty—4 year bumper to bumper, and 6 year/70,000 mile engine and transmission is also worth maybe 500 to me. And the fact that they threw in 2 years of maintenance in a much nicer waiting area reinforces that.
The nicer interior parts all throughout the inside the TLX, and the more interesting and better-looking to me sheetmetal outside is worth at least another 1000, and maybe twice that.
Very subjectively to me then the TLX does seem to be "worth" c. 5000+ more than a comparable Accord, making the added cost of 3k seem like a good deal. And with the lease incentives Acura offers it doesn't seem like you even pay that....?
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I think the standard audio in the TLX is similar to the top-of-the-line system in the Accord EXL/Touring. So it's a very good system that's quite a bit better than what you and I hear/heard in our EXs. The ELS takes it to the next level, but the starting system is already equal to the best that Honda offers—and maybe it's even a little bit better? In terms of the leatherette, I would have been happy with that too. In fact, imho it's less worry because leatherette will last longer than probably almost anything else on the car, while leather after 8 years or so might be reaching the danger zone even if cared for.
The seating position in the TLX is just slightly lower than in my 2016 Accord.
But like you I did find the seating position of the 2018 Accord maybe a little too low.
I do enjoy the Tech features, but if they had had a TLX base on the lot I might have gotten that one if it saved me money over the Tech. It happened that it was the very last TLX 2.4 they had.
To stay on topic: I see more and more TLXs on the road. For first generation it is hard to tell the 2.4 from the V6, with the rim style/tire size being the real give away. Goodyear tires on the 2.4, Bridgestone tires on the V6.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech