Infiniti G37 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

604doc

That makes more sense, but his numbers added up, so I thought CA was even crazier than usual.

night_ranger

Congratulations!

Now when you say below invoice, is that the 2K for dealer cash back? Loyalty?

Thanks, again congrats!

wegaplus

I have been quoted with OTD price of $33,213 for a G35 Journey with Premium package. I live in Atlanta suburb and my county sales tax is 7%. Is this a good deal or do you think I can go lower?

Thanks!

kingpcgeek

Has anyone ever negotiated more then the free 3 month XM subscription when buying a car? I am looking at creative ways to get a better deal in my negotiations. I'm going to buy the XM, so why not see if I can get the $13 a month covered by the dealer because you know they can get a much better rate. I get Sirius now for $6 a month through work. I know the two merged this week, but they are not going to have billing merged for quite some time.

pjt6970

where'd you get the $4k off from? You seeing that out there available? I've seen a couple postings of $2k below invoice.

dwynne

I don't think the dealer gets any better rate than the rest of us. If you ask them to pay for your XM they will just make it up somewhere else in your deal.

They used to have the cars on lots w/o XM service and you or the dealer had to activate it for the 3 month trial. Not good for test drives and demo'ing the system, so they activate them all and they run until 3 months after your dealer turns in the sale of the car.

What I did on my G37 and my wife's Pilot was call in right before the 3 months was up and complain about the price and say I was not going to pay that much since I didn't get that much out out of it. I mentioned a "friend" who got service for $77 for a year and they agreed to give me the same rate. They even took off 1 month's payment for letting them keep my CC on file (you have to remember to cancel before they auto-renew you on the card).

The other option is just to buddy up with friends or family members (or strangers?) and get on their family plan for $6.99 per month.

Dennis

kingpcgeek

The other option is just to buddy up with friends or family members (or strangers?) and get on their family plan for $6.99 per month.

Are you kidding me, all of my friends are Stern fans and have Sirius Thank goodness he is going to be added to XM in September.

kingpcgeek

July 08 G35 sales were down 18.3% from July 07, and are down 15.3% for the year. Anyone think we will see some new promotions/lease rates before 9/2 because of these numbers?

aamc

What stinks is that they took away conquest cash, and seem to only be offering deals to returning customers. Don't know if they will change things up.

dwynne

The $77 deal is still working, so you might try it after you get your car. Too much into the merger that may go away, but it is a cheap price if you get it.

After the merger, I assume folks with "XM" and "Sirius" branded tuners will be able to put them on the same account to save money. If so, then just add your XM Infiniti account to your other radios or those of family members. They do turn in who leased / purchased the car when they notify XM to start the clock running. This makes it a bit harder to add this to the account of another.

Dennis

kingpcgeek

Pearl white Journey, Premium, Performance Tires/Wheels, Splash Guards, Tint

MSRP: 36,570
Selling Price:
Invoice - 33506
+ Dealer Profit (their words) - 500
+ Tint - 100
- Lease Loyalty - 500
= 33,606

Doc Fee = 399

Rude salesman. Finally went into the dealer today because he wouldn't answer emails without a delay of a day or more. I've been trying to get the selling price of this exact car for three days via email. Finally emailed me today with a monthly lease payment and that's it. I asked him for selling price and he never responded. I could tell as soon as I met him he was an old school salesman that did not believe in selling by Internet. His bosses are forcing him to answer emails and he hates it.

Could not beleive what he asked me in the dealership. He asked what I did for a living, I told home, and then he said "I have too much time on my hands" implying I send too many emails. If he would have answered my emails I wouldn't have had to send as many as I did. It took 3 emails and a week to get my first response, and it was one of those "give me a call so we can talk" emails.

I tempted to ask for a $100 rudeness discount.

purchasingsoon

so a $500 markup? that doesn't seem too bad eh?

my latest offer from a sales person via internet on g35x w/prem pkg was about invoice plus $400. i have gone back and forth so not sure how much lower he will go. i'm not really motivated unless he can sell it to me at invoice. i won't get the lease loyalty because i'm not a returning customer.

kingpcgeek

I have only one more $400 payment on my G35 and don't have to turn it in until the end of October. I don't have to buy know, but I am getting real anxious, and want to get it done and over with, and I don't know how September and October are going to be. A 58% residual + $500 is pretty good right now. Too bad they didn't drop their MF this month like Honda did on their V6 sedans.

I might be able to get the Infiniti dealer to pick up the last payment, and $140 of wheel damage would be waived if I lease another Infiniti.

I don't know what to do right now. Lease the G35 above for $500 a month. Lease a top of the line Accord V6 coupe for $450 or a top of the line Accord V6 sedan for $400. My current G si $400 a month but of course I put $3300 down 3 years ago. All of the new lease payments are first months payment and that it.

purchasingsoon

i am leaning TL w/nav for about $450 / month. i'm having a tough time w/the g35 gas mileage. i don't know how you are going to go from the g to the accord! i test drove the accord v6 and i just couldn't get beyond how boring it was. i just paid my last a4 3.2 pmt on a 3-yr lease ($620 / mo w/no money down); i need something a bit more economical on the wallet this time around! i feel like i'm settling with the TL but i guess i'm ok with it.

karmom

Local Infiniti dealership has a certified pre-owned 2006 G35 with 13K miles selling for $25K...this sounds good...what do you think? Even at 25K, I would ask for a lower selling price.

dwynne

I love the looks of the TL and of course the Honda quality, I just can't get excited about a FWD car that costs so much. Seems like you could just go get an Accord if you wanted FWD. I went and test drove the AWD RL but it (too) has a small backseat and was less than thrilling to drive, though better than FWD.

Dennis

jherbst

I live in Florida but wanted a x model since my family all live north. Besides, the rain here in FL makes the x a much more stable car on rain slick roads. I purchased my Infiniti G35x on March 31 '08. With only one dealer in the county (Infiniti of Melbourne) it was a bit tough. But since I was willing to purchase a similar car from a dealer in Louisville, KY (Sam Swope Infiniti -- great selection!) they finally came very close to what I would pay.

Here was the bottom line:
G35x
Premium package
Leather
Navigation
Rosewood trim
Cargo Net
Color Matched Mud Flaps
Trunk Mat
Destination
Tax, Title, Tag (6% sales tax)

Out the door total $38,609.

Plus they shipped it in from North Carolina at no additional charge.

I'm not sure it was the best deal but I was very satisfied with the process.

blnewto

For 25k you could just about pick up a used 07 w/ similar mileage, and the 07 updates are very significant. If you could get it down to 21-21.5k that would be a fair deal IMO, otherwise I'd hunt down an 07.

jherbst

Here's my opinion:
I was a previous Accord owner and my next door neighbor has an '08 TL Type S. And you cannot beat the Honda quality. Have you ever heard anyone ever say they did not like their Honda? I bet not.
But both of us agree the RWD experience of the G35x (AWD) is much more rewarding than the FWD of the TL. The G35x is quicker and handles like a dream. There are a couple things I like better about the TL (larger trunk) but there are more features I love in my G35x that he does not have in his top of the line '08 TL -- like the hard disk recorder and the navigation birdseye view.
As for the gas mileage I would suggest you do the math. On 15k miles per year ($4/gallon regular) you are talking less than $18/week including an uptick for premium (supposedly required in the Infiniti). Over 5 years, that's less than $4300. As it turns out, my neighbor paid almost the same amount more for his TL than I did for the G35x. To me, the additional fuel cost just isn't worth it. If it's overall economy you are concerned about, the TL is the way to go. But I'm not. The performance of the G35 is well worth any additional fuel costs.
As an fyi, Acura will have a new model out in '09 (September) so you may be able to get a great deal near the end of the '08 model year. I have heard the '09 TL will come standard with the Type S engine of '08 and they will be offering an AWD version. So if it's a deal you're after, I would suggest you wait until late August and see what's out there. They make up your mind on either car. I don't think you can make a bad decision with either car.

dwynne

I already have a G37, so need to convince ME - just the person I was replying to .

BTW, all the Acura models require premium gas just like the G models. If a buyer DID purchase an Accord sedan or coupe those call for regular unleaded.

Dennis

purchasingsoon

First, your math on the fuel costs is way off. i mean WAY off, but i agree with your conclusion to some degree.

Most people end up doing more city driving but lets assume for a moment you drove 50/50 highway / city:

g35x avg mpg: 20 (50% at 17 mpg and 50% at 23 mpg)
assume 15,000 miles per year
gallons of gas needed per year: 750 gallons
price per gallon assumption: $4
total fuel costs per year: $3,000 (15,000 miles divided by 20 miles per gallon)
total fuel costs per month: $250
per week: $58
over 5 years you are going to spend around $15,000 on gas alone with both the g35x and the type S (see below), assuming you drive 15k miles per year.

secondly the Type S is a different animal (vs the regular acura), it gets about 9% worse mileage than the regular TL. i must point out that if you drove the Type S 50/50 city / highway, the average mpg is also 20, so your neighbor would hpyothetically be spending the exact same on fuel vs. the g35x.

i think your point though, which i agree with, is that the fuel costs aren't all that much different from the regular acura and the g35x when it comes right down to it.

the non-type S acura gets 22mpg on average, which equals about $2,700 per year on gas vs the g35x of $3,000 per year.

i drive 70% city miles so my fuel costs would be around $2,900 per year, assuming 15k miles per year. i drive more like 12k per year so i will spend about $2,300.

as a point of reference, the v6 honda accord (using the 50/50 split) would cost $2,500 per year for fuel.

one of the key issues for me right now is the fact that the TL w/NAV is going for around $32k. over 3 years, the TL w/NAV about $1,800 cheaper than the g35x w/prem package including fuel costs. guess it just depends on whether or not that makes a difference. you could lease the TL w/NAV and go buy a new plasma tv.

dwynne

one of the key issues for me right now is the fact that the TL w/NAV is going for around $32k. over 3 years, the TL w/NAV about $1,800 cheaper than the g35x w/prem package including fuel costs. guess it just depends on whether or not that makes a difference. you could lease the TL w/NAV and go buy a new plasma tv.

You are comparing apples to oranges - a FWD car to a RWD (or AWD) model. As I said I love the looks of the TL and the reliability but it can't escape its FWD issues nor lack of excitement when driving it.

If you want to compare dissimilar cars, then why not throw in the smartfor2 or the Kia Rio? Either one would get you around town, cost you $12k or so to OWN - not lease, and get lots better mileage than the TL. You would have enough money left over to buy a plasma for every room in the house along with matching HD Tivo DVRs. . Watch out for those 13 second 0-60 times when getting on the freeway, though.....

Dennis

ingvar

And you cannot beat the Honda quality. Have you ever heard anyone ever say they did not like their Honda?
I had acura cl-s and didn't like it at all. Transmission replaced 3 times (genius Honda engineering), front rotors replaced 2 time. Water leaks from windshield and sunroof, fragile wheel disks, lamps in dashboard replaced almost every year. After 3 years I dumped that junk. It was my first and last honda. My GM and BMW cars had 0 issues so far.

qbrozen

i'll jump in there, too.

Just dumped my Accord 9 months before lease end because I couldn't stand driving it anymore. My G35X is WORLD'S superior from a "driver's" standpoint. I could give 2 checkboxes to the Accord over the G, and that's gas mileage and rear seat room. Although the rear seat thing is kind iffy because it made for a larger vehicle, and I've decided that's not necessarily a good thing.

purchasingsoon

dude you are making me want to lease the g35! i've been driving the a4 3.2 quattro for three years so the FWD acura has me a bit hesitant anyway-- so many people seem to dig it however.

i don't agree w/the apples to oranges argument though, these 2 cars are priced fairly similar and they are in the same category of upscale mid-sized / entry level luxury sedan. they wouldn't get compared by the auto rags all the time if they weren't fairly similar. you won't see car & driver comparing a kia with an acura. i hear you on the FWD and AWD to some degree however.

what about your g...do you still think it would be fun / worth it in city driving? i don't live in the 'burbs; my commute is 13-miles round trip.

dwynne

If I wanted FWD I would have picked up a MINI Cooper S. More fun to drive than a TL / TSX, a heck of lot cheaper, and much better gas mileage. Gobs and gobs of torque steer though. They were getting easier to find and you could score $500 or more off MSRP earlier this year, but once gas hit $3.75 and $4 a gallon you can forget about any discount or even finding a new one to buy or lease.

You point was if you accept what you would think of as a lesser car just to save some money where to do you draw the line? That is always the choice, isn't it? Is car x worth $yyy more than car z? If you just want transportation you can do it for less. Once you have driven and appreciate the RWD (or AWD) driving dynamic FWD is just "wrong" to me. No way would *I* pay all that much for a FWD car, just go get an Accord, MINI or Mazdaspeed 3 or something and save the money. But that is *ME*. Most folks probably don't drive the way I do or care as much - maybe they don't mind FWD since they is all they know or they only have 1 car to drive and live where it snows.

Test drive them both, preferably with no salesperson in the car and see what you think. I did, and the Cooper S (with works stuff on it) and lots of other cars before I decided on a G for *ME*. You have to do what makes you happy both behind the wheel but also in the wallet .

Dennis

purchasingsoon

ok thanks for the feedback dennis. i think i will go test drive the acura again and then make a decision.

dwynne

The bottom line is YOU make all the payments, I am not making any of them (and no one else here is either) so you have to do what makes you happy .

Just be sure you get a good deal on whatever you decide to get.....

Dennis

blnewto

We looked at the TL & TLS before getting our 07 G, I really like the interior room and the whole interior layout but the car is a bit dated (at least the platform) and I MUCH preferreed the Gs performance and overall "fun factor". The fact that the G is a newer design and has a bad [non-permissible content removed] motor made the decision easy for us. But they're both nice rides, but not that compareable from a performance standpoint IMO.

kingpcgeek

I thought about the TL, briefly.

TL offer is invoice - 2500 + $300 ad fees + 188 tint = 30,038
51% residual / .00133 MF
Lease payment $460 (first, doc, tags down)

G35 offer is invoice + 500 profit + 100 tint - 500 loyalty = 33,261
58% residual / .00134 MF
Lease payment $465 (first, doc, tags down)

Not a tough call to eliminate TL from my list with this comparison.

mvs1

Most of not all the posters here including myself test drove all these vehicles. We picked up our G35XS in Jan and considered.. well, the TL, IS250awd, BMW 3er, Audi A4...EX, RDX, MDX, CRV, RX350...list goes on. It's the wife's car... we were really down to the G, IS, and EX. She just came out of an Audi A4 lease so a repeat wasn't going to happen and she hates BMWs.

Anyway, the G does offer a nice package for the money, my only grip is the interior in not on par with Lexus and Audi.

Other than that, this is a car I would have considered keeping after the three year term is up, but the G37 sedan and/or a rumored G37 coupe, AWD, hard top convertible will kill those dreams :P

If you have the time to wait it out and are strongly considering the Acura, why not wait the a few months and get the new model TL?

purchasingsoon

If you have the time to wait it out and are strongly considering the Acura, why not wait the a few months and get the new model TL?

the primary reason the acura is being considered is due to the current $2,500 incentive. thus it can be had for about 2,500 below invoice.

as i pointed out earlier: for me, the g35x / 3 6 months / 12k miles, mf .00167, residual 59%, long story short the payment is around $487 (assumes invoice +500).

the TL w/nav would be $453 / mo. Fuel costs only about 8% lower w/the TL so just about negligible.

put the fuel difference plus the montly payment difference together and we are up to a 15% difference. not necessarily a slam dunk.

gary5945

I just purchased a new 2008 Infiniti G35 Journey with premium pkg, nav, sport, splash guards and tint from Mission Veijo, Ca. for $33,707 including destination charge. Tax, license and options such as LoJack were extra. Great experience. This did include a $2000 dealer cash incentive for cash deals that was in effect July 28, 2008.

oman9

Gary, I'm here in South OC too and use Infiniti of MV...that's a great looking deal...enjoy your new G!

I'm looking forward to the new G37 with 7 speed auto transmission. I wonder what MPG's that new G will get...

qbrozen

put the fuel difference plus the montly payment difference together and we are up to a 15% difference.

If it comes down to this and you don't see the added value of the G, then your choice is easy.

Alot of folks would feel the 15% premium for AWD and better performance is the way to go. But that certainly doesn't have to be YOUR feeling, as well.

mvs1

I understand the incentive, my question is are the two vehicles in your mind that close that the price difference matters?

Not sure if this is a good analogy but...I was at the jewelers my wife and I typically buy from. So I'm looking at a Tag Carrera and a Rolex Submariner/Date...price difference is roughly $3K at retail (which I wont be paying). So I'm debating the two and my wife turns to me and states, "if you want the rolex get it, otherwise you'll have the Tag and wish you got the watch you really wanted."

This from a women that looks at "our" money closely.... now I'm not an advocate of spending money recklessly...my point is simple...buy what you like, if the $$$ difference is a key selling point vs. the car, then go for it!

kingpcgeek

OK you convinced me, I'll get the G35 instead of the Accord

mvs1

Oh we looked at the new Accord as well.

We also own a 06' Civic EX w/nav as my commuter vehicle, rock solid vehicle, no issues with 60K on the OD. I had a 1993 Accord 5-speed I owned forever and couldn't kill., just sold it a month back, I was actually sad to see it go. When I sold it I swear I had $1.48 gas in the tank.

Hondas/Acuras are great cars, but they're like driving a toaster everyday.

kingpcgeek

Hondas/Acuras are great cars, but they're like driving a toaster everyday.

I hear you. I have a super deal in front of me for a 08 TL 3500 below invoice which would put it it almost $100 a month cheaper lease payment then a G35 and I still want the G.

coorsbeer

Hi All,

I am in Charlotte and I have been quoted $33917+TTL+doc fee for G35 Journey with Premium package. I will be using the 1.9% financing. The price the dealer quoted is about $1K more than the invoice price.

I see some people paid like less than $2K invoice.

Can you please tell me if it is a good deal or can I ask for the dealer cash to be included even though I take the 1.9% financing.

Thanks for the help.

kingpcgeek

The people getting $2000 below invoice are not getting the 1.9% or leasing. There is $2000 cash to dealer, but it is not available with the 1.9% or leases. A pretty standard price on a G35 is invoice + $500. If you are a current Infiniti customer there is also $1000 cash to customer.

coorsbeer

Thanks, I thought I could be able to get both 1.9% and $2K dealer cash

I am also looking at IS 250 so I will see what would be a better deal

purchasingsoon

i still want the G but i'm leaning toaster. its still a 258 hp toaster! if the es 350's were closer to invoice that would be an option for me as well. i already have buyers' remorse about the G and i haven't leased it yet.

believe it or not i'm pretty sure a nice watch holds its value better than a car, as crazy as that sounds.

jpr196

Hey All,

What do you guys think about G35 sedan 6MT w/ Premium, Nav, and spoiler for $36400? This is not including dealer cashback or 1.9%. This is also using Infiniti's VPP Program. They say the price won't get better than with the VPP but I figured to check here first.

udeman55

If anyone is interested, Infiniti posted the press release for the 2009 G37. http://www.infinitinews.com

kingpcgeek

I can lease an IS250 (my wife has one) for about $30 cheaper then a G35 because the money factor on the IS is so low. But those two cars are not even in the same league. The IS 250 is comparable to a TSX, the G35 is comparable to the IS350.

g35purchaser

pit670 - when you say 'drive away' is that $34,975 before or after TTL? I;m negotiating an 08 G35 sedan w/ prem and nav for $33 with 1.9% over 60 months, black/black. THat's $1900 less than invoice. Thats before TTL. Is that a good deal? Are there any other fees I should tell him to waive? Thanks

g35purchaser

I have an outstanding offer from Sewell in Dallas for $33 with 1.9% before TTL. Car is Black/Black Premium and Nav. This is $1900 below invoice. That's the highest I'm going. I'm thinking about having him throw in the splash guards and tint for free too if the offer is too high. What do you think about this deal?

g35purchaser

I just want to understand this completely. Are you saying the $33,213 price includes TTL or is before TTL? Are you getting any special financing?

wegaplus

The price ($33,213) that I mentioned is OTD, so it includes TTL. I didn't go for special financing, instead took the $2000 incentive. Anyway, I didn't accept that offer.. I got an offer for $32,600 (OTD) from another dealer and took it. Will be picking up the car tomorrow.