Infiniti G37 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

qbrozen

if the es 350's were closer to invoice that would be an option for me as well.

Ok. This statement cleared up alot for me. Now, don't take this the wrong way, as I mean no harm, but you should get the toaster. If the ES would be a serious consideration for you, then I surmise that the more sporty nature of the G is not a selling factor for you, so you should definitely get the cheaper option.

purchasingsoon

ha ha. let me disclose another datapoint. i'm getting married in a few months (starting a family soon?). i don't think my fiance cares either way (she actually likes the g35x the most), but i feel as though it would be appropriate to make the most prudent decision possible. frankly i'll be honest, if i were single i would already be driving around in a g35x because who cares if its an extra $50 per month. i think the g35 is easily the sweetest car of my choices. i drove a bmw for 3 years, followed by an audi. the first car i ever leased was actually the infiniti g20 (a bit underpowered but at the time it was a major step up and i never had one problem with it).

dwynne

If you are going to be having kids soon, then you might want to just get the Accord . Actually, Honda still has some sweet lease deals on the Ody mini-van - depending on how many kids and how soon you plan on having them.

You have to do what makes sense for you. If money were no object I would get rid of my G37 and get a Bugatti Veyron ....

Dennis

kingpcgeek

You have to do what makes sense for you. If money were no object I would get rid of my G37 and get a Bugatti Veyron

I am man of simple tastes. I would take he G37 Hardtop Convertible Coupe coming out next year.

qbrozen

Well, I'll tell ya, my 2-year-old LOVES my G35x. He calls it Daddy's Racecar and goes "vvvrrrrrrrrooooooommmmmmm!!!"

604doc

Funny you mention those guys. I'll be in Dallas quite a bit between November and January, and was thinking about getting a G there, and driving it back to Seattle. I spoke to the GSM there, and so far, they seem very "straight up". If you buy from those guys, I'd be interested in hearing about your experience.

purchasingsoon

dude don't mess with me, you're clouding my judgement!

dwynne

I have an S2000 for top down days....

Dennis

dwynne

If leasing, TX law charges sales tax to the whole car and not just the payment as most states do. Normally, buying or leasing out of state is no problem - I have done it many, many times - but never a lease from Texas.

You should not have to pay any TX sales tax on a purchase or lease since you reside and will title out of state, but just be careful if doing a lease.

BTW, I would price out an open car haul from TX to WA and see how it looks. I have used McNutt auto transport several times and they are very nice prices. Compared to the stone chips, $4+ premium gas, and miles it may not be a bad deal.

Dennis

qbrozen

Heck, I was being gentle.
I left out how he'd cry about going in my 6-speed Accord because he'd rather be in "Mommy's big truck" (our XC90) or "Mommy's red car" (our 325i cabrio).

604doc

Thanks Dennis. I squared away the whole tax thing already. They said it's a bit of a hassle, but they can call Washington Dept. of licensing (DMV) and get the proper tax info. I wouldn't have to deal with any Texas taxes.
The reason I'm even considering leasing in Texas is because all of the Pacific NW Infiniti dealers are owned by the same company, and I hear that you can't get a fair deal. In all fairness, I haven't even contacted the local dealer yet myself, so I can't say for sure. I'm just thinking of a back up plan, just in case.
If I go the Texas route, I will have to consider alot of issues. Savings vs. transport costs, or savings vs. gas, mileage and hotel stays, plus rock chips, or possibly dealing with a snow covered mountain pass. :sick:

mvs1

This will be the first time I'll disagree with a post from Dennis but say no to the toaster.

My wife and I discussed the fact we're planning a family as well. We drove practically every car. We're even close to agreeing to an MDX ...sport .

Then as we're driving I started uncontrollably laughing....we're talking about planning for kids driving a car we're leasing for three years and "may" buy out. Well, last I read about having a kid, it takes awhile for junior to arrive, and then they're pretty small for awhile to.

I can confirm a car seat fits nicely in a G35, my wife brought one to the dealer and placed it into the car. Trunk is good enough to fit the bug-a-boo as well

Ditch the toaster and drive the G... :shades:

purchasingsoon

heh heh heh

pjt6970

I'm guessing before ttl

dwynne

Off topic, but do any other G owners think the auto climate control hurls major chunkage?

It is by far the worst "Auto" system I have ever used and I have to constantly fiddle with the system to be comfy. It does not seem to sense the cabin temp and just bases its fan speed and temp on the outside temp. So if it is cool out it is too warm, if it is hot out I swear it will cool the cabin down into the 60s and maybe the 50s.

It is also so dumb that when the car is hot and you fire it up it puts the air on recirculate (thus trying to cool 140 degree plus air) rather than fresh. The best way is fresh until the cabin temp gets below the outside temp THEN go to recirculate.

Maybe I have a bad sensor or something? I swear when I drive any other car I spend LESS time fiddling with the fan and temp and those all have MANUAL controls. Get in the G37 and I have to constantly adjust something as the auto is just wrong.

There, I feel better now .

Dennis

blnewto

x2 on the "auto" climate feature, the fan goes full blast for far too long and when the ice starts forming on the aluminum trim (and my eyeglasses) when I've set it to 70degrees I think it's a bit of overkill. It is nice to push auto just to get it cooled down quick, just be sure to back the fan down in a few minutes or you'll need penguins & eskimos for passengers

mvs1

ditto... the wife and I decided to not talk about it anymore... kind of like the guy at a family gathering that wears sandals with socks :P

peekay1

So, I'm looking to get into a G35 Sport 6MT w/Premium Pkg. I have a couple of questions:

1. What is the general availability of this model in the Chicagoland area?
2. I will qualify for the $1000 loyalty cash, however, if I choose to lease again, will that loyalty cash go down to $500?
3. I understand that the $2000 incentive is only if you do not choose the 1.9% or lease. Is there any additional dealer holdback that I should be aware of?
4. Does anyone happen to have the 39 month/15k money factor, residual data?
5. Has anyone in the Chicagoland area been able to negotiate anything better than $500 dealer profit? If so, what dealership?
6. Does anyone have any insight on how things are shaping up for September in terms of incentives? I realize this is a stretch of a question as I wish I had a crystal ball to be able to predict these things.

Thanks in advance!!! Planning on test driving the '08 G35 at lunch today.

sang1

I just turned in my leased 2006 M45 Sport and waiting for the G35 Sport 6MT. In the meantime, the dealership has given me a loaner G35 while waiting for my new car to arrive. So far, compared to the old M, I actually like this auto climate control better. I typically like a cooler cabin anyways so it may not be a problem.

To your point regarding recirculate vs. fresh, most vehicles where I've used auto climate control, the a/c unit will start in recirculate mode when trying to cool a very hot cabin. Air typically blows harder (and dare I say cooler?) when in this mode vs. fresh.

kingpcgeek

Air typically blows harder (and dare I say cooler?) when in this mode vs. fresh

Its not blowing harder, just louder. You are hearing the combination of the intake of the air from the cabin and then of course the output. In fresh mode you are only hearing the output.

dwynne

The effectiveness of the auto mode seems to depend on the outside temp and perhaps the inside temp. If it is moderate outside then it seems to do a decent job. If it is hot outside (say over 90) then it seems to run on and on and on even though the cabin is well cooled off. I will ask the dealer about it next time I am in for an oil change, but I am not hoping for a fix.

As to running on "max" or "recirculate" when hot a lot of folks do this THINKING they will get cooler quicker, but it is not so. Say it is 98 outside and 150 inside your car. You get in and turn the air on auto. When it chooses to recycle the air it is now trying to cool 150 degree air rather than the 98 degree outside air. What it (and the driver, if it does not get it) should do is drop the windows (if possible) and put the fan on high and FRESH air. After you get the initial heat out you can roll the windows back up (if you lowered them). Once the inside temp of the car is the same or less than the outside temp, THEN you go to recycle. Now the system is cooling cooler air so as it drops the cabin temp it can now drop it quicker because it is working on air cooler than outside.

Dennis

kingpcgeek

I got into my 5 day old G35 today with the outside temperature at 106. I have the auto climate control set at 81. It works perfectly, coming on full blast until the car was cool, and then going into a low speed to maintain the comfortable temp.

1nickatnite1

Hi guys,

great forum and I read it everyday but now i need some help. I'm looking to buy a 08 g35 with prem nav and tech and the quote i have from the dealer is 35,877 plus TTL. I will be financing with the 1.9 for 60 mths so can't take advantage of the market support. Do you guys think this is a good price considering the g37 sedan is rite around the corner? And on that note, anyone have any idea the pricing of the g37 sedan?

Thanks in advance

jurizar

Hello everyone. I'm currently receiving offers from varoius infiniti dealers in socal for a journey with premium and navi. MSRP is $38300 because it includes splash guards and trunk cargo net (woohoo). The best offer I have so far is $34,510. I was considering leasing; however I'm hearing that you can't use the $2000 rebate if you lease...bummer. So if I purchase, I'm looking at $32,510. What do you guys think? :confuse:

bw45sport

The auto engineers must all have it wrong too because every MB and BMW I have owned start out in recirculation mode when the cabin is very hot. Start the car, drop the windows for about 30 seconds and your car will cool very quickly in auto mode.

dwynne

It is not that they are wrong (or correct), they just don't bother to program the system with the intelligence built in. Simple logic tells you the trying to cool overheated air is not the way to go. I am sure also everyone that hears that loud roar when the fan is on high and recirculate is then assured the AC is doing "all it can" to cool them down even if the smarter solution would be to get some fresh and cooler air into the car .

My BMWs were both so "dumb" you could not turn off the climate control. You could turn it off, but as soon as you started the car the next time it came back on - no matter what you did. During the winter (when defog / defrost is not needed) I prefer to leave the system off until the water temp is high enough to open the t-stat. So I had to start the car, turn the system back off, then hit auto (or whatever) once the water temp was up. Some auto systems are so dumb that they turn on the fan on high on a cold day right after the car is started - that just blows cold air on the occupants of the car with is not what they need.

Dennis

peekay1

jurizar:

It looks like $34510 is about $550 below invoice, so I'm assuming you are receiving Infiniti loyalty cash. Dealer profit works to around $450, which is fair IMO.

imkramer

I've been enjoying my '07 G35 Journey Sedan Platinum Graphite/Graphite for almost a year and a half now. Just loving it.

Couldn't resist the deals currently being offered on the '08s: $2000 marketing support and $1000 loyalty cash. With no personal need for changes in soon-to-be-released G37 Sedan, it seemed like an opportune time to snag another one for my wife! I mean why should I only have the pleasure to drive this phenominal car. I had her test drive the Lexus IS250 first, but for similar $$$ it just doesn't stack up.

So here's the deal......

2008 G35 Journey in Lakeshore Blue/Stone w/ Premium Package Splash Guards, and Cargo Net

$32,000 even OTD (including any and all costs, taxes (7% in Atlanta), and fees....not a penny more)

Then, after I made the deal I asked to have her trade-in appraised. Surprisingly they never even asked about it during the brief negotiations. And I already had in my back pocket an offer from CarMax for $8k. Surprisingly the dealer offered the same, so I saved an additional $560 (at 7% sales tax)

The way I see it, I was headed over to CarMax to sell the car anyway....so in essence we got the new G for $31,440 OTD. :shades:

Now my G isn't so lonely in the garage..........it's got a younger sister to hang with. And my wife is happy too.

jurizar

peekay1

No, I don't currently own an Infiniti. That's just a price that I was quoted through Miller Infiniti. I have been told by several Infiniti dealers that I can choose to go with the $2000 incentive or the 1.9% financing. So if I take the $2000 incentive, I'm looking at $32,510. From what I'm seeing on the boards, this seems like a good price.

dwynne

Congratulations! Invoice looks like $33,207 less the incentive and cash = $30,207. So your price with tax looks nice to me.

That lakeshore is a pretty color and was my 2nd choice after liquid platinum. Which dealer did you work with? All the Hot'lanta are dealers I ever tried to work with all have $500 or so doc fees which pretty much ruined any deal they offered me.

Dennis

peekay1

imkramer:

That sounds like a great deal. If I calculated things correctly, you got the car for about $29,900 after all discounts ($2k marketing support, $1k owner loyalty), probably another $150 for title/license so, all in all about $29,750 for the car???

Is there additional dealer holdback that I am not aware of? How can the dealer sell the car for this price and come positive on the deal? I'm curious because I'm a few days/weeks away from pulling the trigger on a new G35 and need to get as much info as possible.

PK1

peekay1

jurizar:

I must not be aware of some additional dealer holdback or something because if I got a deal $550 below invoice before discounts ($2k marketing support, $1k loyalty cash) I would jump on in right now...that's just me.

Good luck, and let me know if you hear about anything lower that that!

PK1

imkramer

On my '07 deal, I worked with Nalley in Marietta. Great experience - still the best I've ever had.

On this deal, with limited '08s remaining and with very few still being shipped, I needed to track down the exact car (color & options) we were looking for. Infiniti of Roswell not only had it, they also had one or two more with the same configuration on order. And they are the closest dealer to me anyway. They are the only dealer in the area that doesn't put their inventory online. Currently, they've actually got huge inventory (probably the largest) of '08s available in Metro Atlanta.

It turns out they won't trade with other dealers either - at least that's what my guy at Nalley told me. He also told me he'd have a tough time doing that price even if he had the car this time around.

It's funny that Roswell couldn't touch Nalley's price last year. And this time around, Nalley couldn't touch Roswell's price.

As far as the doc fee (or any BS fees for that matter) goes....it's meaningless to me. I just calculate my maximum OTD offer based on the car(invoice), options(invoice), destination, holdback, rebates/marketing support and stick to it. As far as I'm concerned, I will never pay it.

As far as colors go, my first choice was/is Platinum Graphite. That's what I drive. The Lakeshore was my wife's choice - and a great one. It is very sharp, looks very different than mine, and isn't overly masculine for her. If it wasn't so similar to mine, my choice for her might have been the Platinum Metallic too.

imkramer

PK1:

Your numbers are about right. In fact my OTD cost included tax AND ALL title and license (plate transfer) fees as well.

Holdback for Infiniti is only 1% as far as I know. I'm sure they get some kind of sales volume incentives from the manufacturer as well. CarBuyingTips.com details a host of great info on all this and they have an INVALUABLE offer spreadsheet (calculator) on there. It even takes into account the holdback percentage. The only thing I changed on the spreadsheet is that I plug in 0% profit rather than the 3 - 5% they recommend. You can find this great speadsheet by clicking on the "How to Buy New Cars " link and then clicking on "Chapter 4" at the very bottom of the page.

I think the dealers know that the '09 G37 Sedans are coming in by the end of September. As soon as those are on the lots, the "08s will be tougher to move without giving up something even bigger. The '08s are virtual "left-overs" at this late stage of the game - and you should to let them know you understand this - especialy if you are going in at the end of August.

Also, mine had no Nav and I think there's less demand for a no-Nav car in this car class. So, if you require it, they will probably move a little less on the price of those vehicles.

However, if you can find a dealer with a lot of inventory, they may be willing to do a fair deal for you.

peekay1

imkramer:

Thanks for the update. I wasn't really factoring in dealer holdback as this will contribute another $300-$400 in profit. The last offer I got on a G35x Sport/Premium was $250 over invoice. I will probably inform the dealerships that I have been working with that I will wait until the end of the month before making a final deal in hopes of being able to take advantage of potential deals as a result of their volume incentives. In reality, my lease does not end until 9/28, however, I am anticipating lease rates to worsen in September and the 1.9% apr expires on 9/2, so I'm going to try to get into a new G35 by the end of August.

I'm headed to the carbuyingtips.com website now. Thanks for the advice!!

PK1

imkramer

PK1:

You're welcome. I'm no leasing expert so I can't offer anything there.

Good luck......you're gonna love the car.

By the way, what color combination are you eyeing?

gosawx

Wondering if this is a good deal:
MSRP 42,930
Cap Cost 38,200
Residual 57%
Miles: 18,000
Payment w/ 7% tax: $559 for 39 months.
Only payment due at signing.

peekay1

imkramer:

Looking to get either platinum graphite/charcoal or black obsidian/charcoal. I've test driven both the sport and non sport models of the G35x, they have an overabundance of the "x" version here in Chicago, but it seems that the RWD version is very scarce in these parts. Thanks again for the info.

PK1

peekay1

gosawx:

Tough to say. I would need to know the details on the car to determine if it's a "good deal". From what I could tell, you are getting around a .00156 money factor or 3.74% apr on the lease, which is good (this assumes that all fees paid up front - i.e. license, title, lease inception, etc).

Let me know what model and what options.

PK1

gosawx

Sorry, I didn't include the other details before.

The lease is a true sign and drive, only monthly payments. Nothing due at signing. The car is black/black with AWD, premium, tech, sport, spoiler, and navigation packages. Lease is 39 months and 18k miles / year. Sorry, I did not remember the money factor. I guess what it comes down to is this: do I have more room to work the cap cost?

mvs1

For what it's worth, I leased an identical vehicle in Jan when the G35XS' were available, my lease is 15K miles as opposed to you're 18K, term is 36 months, my monthly payment is exactly $560 including CT's 6% sales tax, my up front was $1500. My deal came out to $150 under invoice at that time. No rebates I was aware of or can recall right now for the sedan.

Just quickly comparing factoring in you're paying just first month and rolling inception fees into the lease you're about $1150-$1300 under invoice. I'm assuming the MF is roughly the same now as in Jan, and the two residuals are within $50.

I felt at the time we leased ours it was a great deal, since no one was dealing on the XS model ....this to me is a great deal on this car. If the new G37 model does not sway your thinking I'd lease it and drive daily for the next three years

gosawx

Thanks for the followup mvs1. I think it's a great car and a pretty good deal considering I owe nothing at inception.

teamboulton

G35X sedan with premium and wood.

Sticker: $38,025
Agreed Purchase Price $35,500
$499.25 Doc Fee
$595 Acq Fee
less $500 loyalty cash
Adj Cap Cost $36,094.25
Residual $21,674.25; Money Factor .00184
7% tax; $46 tax/title
39 month lease/15,000 miles
$500 payment at signing (yes, less than 1st month's payment)
$509.35 /month

Perhaps could have pressed alittle more, but dealer did not have exact car in stock and had to go get it. Most importantly, car is fantastic and I can live with the payments!

deepv

Hey! been using this site as a major negotiating tool, so I thought I'd give back.

I just got this deal this weekend:

08 G35 Sedan + Premium Package + splash guards + trunk cargo net - Sticker is around 37. I got it for 31k + TTL WITH the 1.9% APR. I got the 2k cash back instead of taking the special financing, but still ended up getting the 1.9% through the college grad program. I didn't qualify for the Loyalty cash, even though our family's owned 3 Nissans.

Lowest I was getting in Houston was 32.5 without any special financing. The guys in Austin Infiniti were able to get the 1.9% after we had negotiated the 31k deal because I recently graduated from college. The rule is, you either have had to have graduated 2 years ago, or are about to graduate in 6 months.

And another thing... Every dealership was honest about me when they couldn't make the deal.... except North Houston Infiniti. They made me drive all the way out there, even after I made sure the salesman got manager approval before I got there. When I got there, they raised the price and said they couldn't do the special financing. I walked right out of there. Since that point I've learned.... GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING!

Austin Infiniti was great though, they really were no hassle, and they were very helpful. The type of service you'd expect from Infiniti.

krai

Does it have the navigation package?

gregm3

Does anyone know how the loyalty cash works? Does Infiniti reimburse the dealership that money? If I negotiate a price for a vehicle then subtract the loyalty cash and it ends up at invoice or below invoice, does it matter to the dealership because they will get the money back from Infiniti?

deepv

Nope, no Nav. g35 Journey + premium package

peekay1

My understanding is that you have the option of receiving it as a check, however, more often than not, people just use it to reduce the final selling price of the car, and the dealer gets the check, instead of you.

I could be wrong.

speed817

who did you deal with at austin infiniti? i'm currently talking to them about an 08 G35 sedan with premium and sports package.

ziemohn

HI All, I'm trying to purchase my first Infiniti and I've got a VPP Class C number.
I've got 3 South Florida VPP dealer quotes for a 2008 G37 w/Premium Pkg.

(1) $36682.75+TT (2) 36212+TT (3) $36770+TT all at the promotional 1.9apr.
Tax is at 6% so I'm looking at $39K, just doesn't seem like invoice price.

Edmunds invoice price is lower and I also have this 2007 internal Infiniti document that says this car should be at $34900.

Am I getting a good deal or should I walk? Please help!