Infiniti G37 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

peekay1

I guess I wouldn't be able to confidently say , 'good deal' or 'no good deal' until I knew exactly what the invoice price was, but based on the options you listed the invoice is $35,506 + $765 destination = $36,271 before any incentives.

So a quote of $35,508 (dest incl) ($763 UNDER invoice) is a pretty phenomenal deal especially if that is before the $1000 rebate. Typically, the rebate is applied AFTER taxes and fees have been calculated, so your out the door price would be $36,995.42. With your payments at $630.79 for 60 mos at 0.9%.

I just purchased a 2008 G35 Journey with sport/prem for $34,500 which was exactly $36 OVER invoice and I was pretty happy about that. Let us know how things go.

PK1

peekay1

landshark3:

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the TMV price takes into considerations any rebates and marketing support (I could be wrong). With that said, it's tough to predict the future on these things...will the marketing support get better or worse in September? Will the conquest/owner loyalty rebate get better or worse in September? Will the finance rates get better or worse in September?

In my research over the past few weeks, if you can get a deal around invoice BEFORE any rebates and/or marketing support, you've got yourself a pretty good deal. I have seen a few posts on this board indicating they were/are getting offers several hundred dollars less than invoice before any incentives. However, I cannot validate the veracity of those offers. In my own experience, I recently (8/21/2008) acquired a G35 Journey with prem/sport/cargo net for $34,500 ($36 over invoice). I took the 0.9% financing and qualified for the $1,000 rebate (which was applied after taxes). To me, this was a good deal because I did not want to risk the rates getting worse and the incentives, to me, were pretty good. Now, if the rates go to zero percent for 60mos and/or marketing incentives/rebates get better, then I lose by playing it 'conservative', but overall, I was happy with paying around invoice before any incentives. I hope this helps.

Incidentally, I grew up in St. Louis (close to Plaza Motors, in fact)..GO CARDS!!

PK1

jwright1111

I just bought a new G35 X with premium only, blue slate with graphite interior.
Price was 30898 (after all incentives/rebates) INCLUDING freight.
And they gave me $700 over the carmax offer (5K) for my trade.
No special financing was available at that price.
Processing fee was only 100.

I hope this helps someone get an even better deal. With so many g35s left in the area, you would think that the dealers would be more helpful or friendly, but as expected, most were arrogant p$%^ks. I did find that most of the over stock was in the premium + nav configuration, so you may have even more leverage, but I didn't have anyone offer much off moving up to a NAV vehicle.
Good Luck

deepv

Wow, that's a good deal! I took the dealer cash, I happened to still get the special financing for being a recent college grad though.

napakapa

I just want to share with you guys the the price paid for my blue slate G35 purchased last week from Frontier Infiniti at Santa Clara, CA.

Journey with Premium, 18 wheels and tires, and a few other minor options
MSRP: $36960
Invoice: $33822
Paid: 33200
Rebate $(1,000)
0.9% financing, payments =$602 X 60 , $0 Down

Pretty good deal considering i got it for less than invoice and all the rebates and financing. They still have a lot of cars in stock and they are good to deal with.

ladino1

I received a quote on a 2007 Certified G35-Journey/Prem/Sports/Nav/Cargo Net, Wheel Locks, Lojack, tint, 5,000 miles Upgraded Wheels for $32,221 and 1.9% financing. So I think with the .9% finance and rebates you should be able to do 2K more than this deal for a 2008

landshark3

will be getting a g35x but not sure of the sport package. would the 18 inch rim/tires give a lot harsher ride than that of the standard 17's?

landshark3

one more thing to ask and hope to clear it up for most:
for a g35x, should i expect to pay at most the invoice price, then take off 2 grand for bonus cash( and please explain what this is when i walk in the dealer on thursday), as well as one grand off for the conquest cash? overall i guess it should amount to about 3 thousand off invoice, correct? thanks

shannabanana

Yesterday, I bought a Lakeshore Slate Infiniti G35 Sport with Nav Package, Journey Package, Premium Package, Illuminated Door Sills, Trunk Mat, and Cargo Net. I bought it for 35k (out-the-door 38k and change). That is below invoice, but not by 3k. I'm completely in love with it!

soupcon

here are the deal opportunities as i understand them:

you can get $2k below invoice if you pay with your own cash or some other funding source

you can get 1.9% infiniti financing, but @ invoice price-ish

you can get the low mf=.00103 lease rates @ invoice price-ish.

so you can't get the 2k marketing funds if you use their financing at the happy rates.

there are also loyalty reductions.... as mentioned, but i don't know much about those.

now that said, you CAN get below invoice with their financing. i helped my friend just get $500 below with the favorable lease deal. the dealer is getting holdback ....they're making (1.5%) on that and who knows what other kinds of back end incentives from the factory they are getting that we don't know about. but that's just it..we don't know about them. so in summary if you want to get below invoice pricing, you just have to negotiate for it. who knows how far below invoice you can get if you deal hard and are willing to walk.

now i wonder: what is everyone's prediction about rates and incentives next month? these dealers are still pretty stocked. i can't imagine these 2008 models aren't going to just get cheaper....

leitrim1880

About this time last year Infiniti made their pricing announcement for the new G37. Has anyone seen similar announcement for 2009 model?? If so, what is the link? T

1nickatnite1

Hi!

Got my 08G35 2 days ago for about 1400 under Edmunds Invoice and 0.9% financing for 60 months. It drives great and so far I'm averaging 19.2 mpg at 36.x mph (mostly city). There's great deals out there people, don't give up!

zippy66

Liquid Platinum...also has cargo net & splash guards...

$42,380 - MSRP
$38,611 - Invoice
$36,688 + TTL - Paid (0.9% financing, including $1000 conquest rebate)

Got decent $$ for my 11-yr-old trade-in, so I am very happy with this deal. At least 3 other dealers in the D.C./Balt. area were willing to match my deal, though, so there are deals to be had in this area at least!! The guy I went with (at Passport Infiniti in Alexandria, VA) was the one who made me feel most at ease, and was willing to do everything via e-mail/fax until I came in to sign & drive on Saturday (I drove in from out of town).

p.s. I am loving the new ride immensely so far!! Glad to join the G35 owners' club! :shades:

cgibson1254

I am about 200 miles outside of Dallas. I have spoken with several dealers in the area and they refuse to sell the car below invoice plus the 1000 rebate and the .9 financing.
Edmunds says the suggested price to pay for the car is around 300 below invoice plus the 1000 and .9%

Is everyone else having luck with these kinds of offers? I can't find a dealer willing to do it.

pjt6970

Trying to work this w/Lupient Infinity but they're quoting me "$32k range but not with their 0.9% fiancing. Otherwise its $34k range" That's all in according to them. I told them about the $2k mktg support and the $1k customer loyalty so that should be less then their $34k. He gave me the "I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but that's what we're selling them at." I said $34k is WAY to high and see you later. You want to sell a car give me a call. He's calling me back as I type this now...I'll make him sweat a bit.

Does anyone know if TMV takes into account available incentives or do we need to back that out? They are telling me it takes it into account. I don't buy that as it seems quite complicated to program that into the site but who knows.

julio2815

Gibby, et al,

I'm in a similar situation; the lowest I was offered was $36,600 with the financing (G35X, prem, nav, cargo, wheel locks). I quoted them several deals that I noted from this thread, and they weren't willing to budge. I don't know how to much to believe from them...

Of course I have read on Edmunds and elsewhere that Infiniti is not willing to do BOTH financing and a cash incentive (other than conquest cash). I suppose I'm mostly willing to believe that.

However, what people aren't always clear about in their posts here, is whether or not they're taking special financing and/or incentives. Some people have done it, but not everyone. And that makes it difficult to ascertain what their *real* deal was, and how others' comapre to them.

To complicate matters, I live in Albuquerque, and there is just one Infiniti dealer in the state; meaning I don't have the luxury of calling multiple dealers throughout the area to compare/contrast offers. I don't know if this makes my offer acceptable or not.

Lastly, even if new incentives should come out, whereby I *can* get down to the other prices listed, they will undoubtedly decrease in others' posts here, such that I still can't meet them (I'm betting I would only be able to match the old best deals).

Can anyone offer any insight as to whether or not my geography is hampering me? or is it the dealership? or am I actually getting a good deal if I were to take off $2K and use the non-0.9% financing? (Incidentally, I realize I'm too late for incentives that end today...I'm hedging my bets that they will either continue or get better).

Thanks in advance for any advice/help.

kingpcgeek

I have to agree with the dealer on this one, I don't know where you are getting your numbers. Invoice is $34,912, how are you expecting to get $32k range AND have .9% financing? Not going to happen. If you want the $2k dealer cash you do not get the .9%. FYI $2000 dealer cash, $1000 loyalty & .9% are set to end today.

blnewto

Give Hoy-Fox in El Paso a try, ask for Jerry Franklin (you might say the couple from Roswell referred you) they may be able to work a better deal It may be worth the drive, never know until you try

pjt6970

Getting my numbers from Edmunds and going off of deals others are getting inculding conquest $. Deals are out there being had for anywhere from $1-2k below invoice after $ and w/financing. Check out post #6409. Just about $2k below invoice and w/0.9% finc.

kingpcgeek

He did not get the $2000 dealer cash that is why the .9 financing, and there was a trade involved. In reality he got the car for $1000 under invoice and then the $1000 conquest cash. The $1000 under invoice could include a low ball on the trade and a nice fat doc fee. If you can get a car at invoice, and then subtract the $1000 conquest cash you are getting a good deal on a G35.

pjt6970

That's what I said: All in, he got the car for $2k less than invoice, whether its $2k straight up, $1k below invoice + $1k con. cash or whatever...people are getting cars for +$2k below invoice, as they should, + financing.

I was quoted back on 7-26-08 a g35x w/prem & nav for $34,975 +ttl. So for them to bid me $34k for a g35x w/just prem tells me there is plenty of room. They aren't giving away nav for $975 (in this example) when its a $2k product. Sub $34k is the real number and add in the $1k conquest gets you to sub $33k

cgibson1254

anyone know how to check the new incentives coming out tomorrow besides calling a dealer?

kingpcgeek

people are getting cars for +$2k below invoice, as they should

I have only seen one post in the last couple of months where anyone paid anything less then around invoice and then received the Infiniti incentives. And that one post was the one you stated, and once again he had a trade which throws out all comparisons to what you are trying to do. You are asking a dealer to sell you a car that is invoiced at almost 35k in the "32k range" or $2000-$3000 below invoice. Infiniti pays $1000 of that, dealer holdback at 100% is around $1000. So the dealer should give you more then 100% of the holdback since most cars on the lot are not a 100% at this time of year and then for good measure take some more out their pocket to sell you a car?

pjt6970

What are you a car salesman?! Sure sound like one since you're so worried about them making a buck. I have no problem with them making a buck or two, but then I determine what is reasonable from the info I gather. The dealer is well within his right to say "no" to my bid.

How do you figure a trade throws out all comparisons? If one learns anything from edmunds, it is to negotiate 2 transactions, one for the new car and then one for the trade. So toss the trade out since we don't have the details and move on.

Check out posts 6214 & 6399 as well. If you're getting such significant differences in prices (one was $6k off of msrp) then it's pretty safe to say they got it well below invoice. One is basically buying a year old car at this point as well, so below invoice pricing is not out of the relm nor should it be unexpected. My .02. Take it or leave it. I have a "fair" price in mind and sticking to it.

kingpcgeek

nope, not a car salesman.

the trade throws out the comparison because the dealer in the post you cited could have possibly made $500 - $1000 off the trade so he could afford to sell the car for a loss.

reignmn

If you are shopping with Lupient, you might want to ask up front if your vehicle has been involved with any hail damage, they apparently have a lot of those vehicles on their lot. From what I understand they will work the deal with you then disclose the hail damage so that you are not able to utilize it against them. Just an FYI, might want to ask if the G35 you want has had any damage, and then possibly use that in your negotiation.

takeflight

I don't know about cash incentives. But, Infiniti's website has been updated to say the 0.9% financing now expires on 9/30 instead of 9/2.

peekay1

I'm going to have to agree with kingpcgeek on this one.

Here's the bottom line. If you have time, and patience then the good deals will come to you. I got a G35 Journey Sport/Prem/Cargo net for literally $36.00 over invoice ($34,500). I did take advantage of the $1k loyalty cash, but that is subtracted from the NET total after taxes/fees (my point being, the car did not sell for $33,500). I also took advantage of the 0.9%.

I kind of regret not being a bit more patient b/c I think I could have gotten the car for a few hundred dollars less (maybe $200 - $300)...but I don't regret it that much b/c I love the car. I still follow the boards to help others get the best deal by conveying my experiences...also, I have a morbid curiosity to see if deals have gotten better since I acquired my new G...

If you have any questions, let me know.

PK1

cgibson1254

1000 rebate is gone starting today. they do have the .9%

pjt6970

INFINITI DIVISION
SALES

August August Monthly CYTD CYTD CYTD
2008 2007 % Change 2008 2007 % Change
Total 11,076 10,252 8.0 82,194 83,574 -1.7
G Sedan 4,014 4,349 -7.7 32,222 37,640 -14.4
G Coupe 1,847 1,826 1.2 15,086 9,492 58.9
M 1,221 1,658 -26.4 10,968 15,034 -27.0
Q45 0 0 NA 0 21 -100.0
QX56 768 1,176 -34.7 5,914 7,633 -22.5
EX 1,645 NA NA 9,010 NA NA
FX 1,581 1,242 27.3 8,995 13,752 -34.6
Total Car 7,082 7,833 -9.6 58,275 62,187 -6.3
Total Truck 3,994 2,419 65.1 23,919 21,387 11.8

with G sedan sales down 14.4% ytd, i'd expect the rebate to probably come back.

(sorry about the spacing. when editing it looks good but posting it gets screwed up again.)

rickb66

I have been trying to find out when the new 2009 G37 coupes are going to be delivered to the showrooms. The dealerships answers are all different. Does anyone really know?
Thanks

arancibia

The $1000 incentive and $2000 rebate are gone effective 9/3 but replaced by a $3000 rebate! So essentially the same deal is available.

kingpcgeek

There never was a rebate. There was a $1000 cash to buyer incentive which was available with the .9% financing. The rebate you speak of was a cash to dealer incentive that was available if you did not lease or use the .9% financing. If the $3000 is now cash to dealer then the .9% financing is not available, and no it is not essentially the same deal as what just expired. To get the .9% financing you will pay $1000 more then what you paid in August.

cubanato

I went to the dealership yesterday and was quoted a price of, so he says,
$38,000
12,000 miles a year
36 months
$1,000 down plus first month payment
7% sales tax in my state of NJ
$498+ tax so thats equates to $532.86 a month

this is with no negotiation, is this a good deal? is the $38,000 correct for this monthly payment? and what do you think is a good price?

Thanx

kingpcgeek

Invoice on your car is around $37,000 so I would say no you are not getting a good deal. Try going to leaseguide.com and and using their online lease payment calculator. You will need the current residual and money factor for your particular car.

cubanato

Should I be asking for around $200 $500 or how much over invoice is too much ?

thanx

kingpcgeek

offer invoice. I wouldn't go for more then $500 over invoice. I paid $100 over invoice in August for a sedan.

cubanato

Thanx, I appreciate all your help. and I am kinda new to this so I offer the salesman invoice and tell him to get me a price and then i check it against the lease calculator in leaseguide.com also I tell him to let me know all fees and all? and money factor and residual value?

one more question should he be running my credit already or do I wait till the day of ?
thanx again

peekay1

Cubanato:

Here's what I'm coming up with on a G37 6MT with Prem Package:

MSRP = $40,115
Invoice = $36,756
Residual = 63% for 36 mos 12k miles/yr *
MF = .00216 *
NJ Tax = 7%
Acquisition Fee = $595
Doc Fee = $175 (estimated)
Title/License = $143 (estimated)

Assuming you got a deal for invoice the payment would be around $540/mo give or take a few dollars depending on the differences in doc fees. This is with ZERO cap reduction. The only thing you would pay is first month + title/lic fee (whatever it is in NJ, I used $143 b/c that's what we're charged in Illinois)

No rebates were factored into this deal b/c I'm not sure what's available for September for leases.

* The residual and money factor used was based on August/July Lease rates per Tarry Shebesta at LeaseCompare.com I'm not sure if this got better/worse.

Your credit shouldn't be run until you agree on a price. If you didn't fill out the credit app they can't run your credit.

Hope this helps.

PK1

cubanato

Awesome, your the man PK1!
I have to call him this week and tell him I want invoice.
Also I have to try and negotiate getting out of my current vehicle somehow.
A 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie fully loaded. 6 months left on lease.
How do I even go about that?

thanks
-J

landshark3

i pretty much understand now that i should be able to get 3 grand for the dealer incentive thing, but not the .9 financing. what financing rates are people getting from the dealer if they are not doing the .9 percent deal?

cgibson1254

Could they offer the 1000 conquest rebate again this month, or have all the changes been made for this month and we would have to wait until next month to see?

peekay1

Cubanato:

The only way you'll be able to get "out" of the lease is something like leasetrader.com or swapalease.com. You're pretty much stuck for the next six months otherwise.

To my knowledge, Infiniti does not have any lease buy back programs, and if they did, they would only be on Infiniti leases anyway.

PK1

kingpcgeek

Unless you want to pay double payments for a while I would say you should wait until your truck lease is up. Normally you could trade in your truck to the dealer you are getting your new car from, but the last thing car dealers want right now in trades are trucks. Dealers here in Phoenix are refusing to take trucks in on trade.

takeflight

I picked up a new 08 G35x (prem/nav/wood/splash/cargo) this week for $152 over invoice ($848 under invoice if you count the $1000 loyalty cash). This is before TTF. Also got the 0.9% financing. I'm convinced if you really play hardball you can do better than that but I think it's a fair deal.

landshark3

went to the dealer and best they will do is pretty much invoice, plus processing fee of around 200. then either take 3000 or the 0.9 financing.
how are you guys getting invoice plus 0.9 financing and conquest?

sharkala

Hello,
I just test drove a new 2008 G35. It has exactly the features I would want. The options included are Splash Guards, wood, premium package, navigation, The list msrp is $40.680. I was quoted for a 39 month/12K miles lease $531.44 inc tax. I only have to put down the normal upfront fees of $1272. Please advise.

kingpcgeek

If will take some time to read this forum or any leasing forum you will find that no one can tell whether a lease is a good deal without knowing the price of the car that the dealer is selling you. If you only negotiate the price of a lease payment you open yourself to getting into a bad deal.

You need:

Publicly Available Items
MSRP
Invoice Price
Current Manufacturer Residual
Current Manufacturer Lease Factor

Items particular to your deal
Selling price (in these car buying times you should be around invoice on most cars)
Lease factor dealer is quoting you (dealers can mark this up)
Dealer doc fees
Local sales tax, and whether you pay up front or every month.
Out of pocket money up front.

sharkala

The selling price is $43,000. Please advise if the lease price of $599 a month is a good deal.
thanks.

kingpcgeek

The selling price of what is $43,000?