2015 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Lease Questions

shafey

warrigal said:

I apologize in advance for the newbie comment, but I've never leased a car. I have a 2015 E350 wagon on order, and had planned to finance it at 1.9%/72 mos but trying to investigate whether leasing would be cost advantageous because of the added cash flow in the first few years. Here are the numbers I have to work with - can I get an idea of what a 36 or 48 month, 10k/year lease would look like with this info? MSRP: $76,690 Negotiated price: $65,996 Mileage: 10.000/year Term: 36 or 48 mos $ down: as little as possible Credit: should be Tier 1 (800+ FICOs) Taxes: 9% (California) If there are too many variables, I'd appreciate any insights you could share on likely money factor, lowest cash I could put down, and the residual on the E350 wagon. Thanks.

Hi. I'm also looking at E350 Wagon in California. Who was the dealer that offered this discount? Thanks

otm

I would also like to know where you got 10k off a '15 wagon. I'm struggling to get that much of a discount on '14 wagons. Thanks.

sailingmoe

Found the E400 sedan we like and was going to lease for 36 mon 15k year, but are now thinking maybe only 24 mon. Can I get the MF and residual for 24mon 15k miles pls.
Thanks

sailingmoe

Also I forget I am being charged a MB bank fee of $1,095. Is the standard?

Michaell

sailingmoe said:

Found the E400 sedan we like and was going to lease for 36 mon 15k year, but are now thinking maybe only 24 mon. Can I get the MF and residual for 24mon 15k miles pls.
Thanks

Standard MF (.0018 to .0022) and 62% for 24/15

sailingmoe said:

Also I forget I am being charged a MB bank fee of $1,095. Is the standard?

Nope, the standard acquisition fee is $795; the dealer is allowed to mark that up to $1095 for a bit of extra profit.

trchicago

Hello-
Could you please let me know the current residual & money factor for 36/15 on a E400 Hybrid?

Michaell

trchicago said:

Hello-
Could you please let me know the current residual & money factor for 36/15 on a E400 Hybrid?

Standard MF (.00180-.00220) and 58% for 36/15

allfortheunion

do you have current RV and MF for 2105 E63 AMG 4Matic Wagon, 36 mo, 10 or 12k miles, SoCal location? thanks

Michaell

allfortheunion said:

do you have current RV and MF for 2105 E63 AMG 4Matic Wagon, 36 mo, 10 or 12k miles, SoCal location? thanks

Standard MF (.00180-.00220) and 55% / 56%

travispete1

I am a bit confused between all of the E models in terms of differing MF and residuals.

Can I get the MF and Residual for a 10k/36mo 2015 E350 RWD and 4Matic? Thanks for all you do!

kyfdx

travispete1 said:

I am a bit confused between all of the E models in terms of differing MF and residuals.

Can I get the MF and Residual for a 10k/36mo 2015 E350 RWD and 4Matic? Thanks for all you do!

RWD: .00111 MF

AWD: .00107 MF

59% residual on either model

mayan50

Can you tell me the Feb 2015 Tier 1 MF on a 2015 E-400 Coupe 4MATIC 36 month lease please?

Also, I have the Residual as 60% for 10k miles per year, correct?

Two more things: is there any dealer money this month (are they getting any help, and/or any loyalty incentive besides the 3-month pull-forward on an existing lease)

Finally, what's average holdback these days for MB, 3%? more?

Thanks thanks and thanks!

Michaell

mayan50 said:

Can you tell me the Feb 2015 Tier 1 MF on a 2015 E-400 Coupe 4MATIC 36 month lease please?

Also, I have the Residual as 60% for 10k miles per year, correct?

Two more things: is there any dealer money this month (are they getting any help, and/or any loyalty incentive besides the 3-month pull-forward on an existing lease)

Finally, what's average holdback these days for MB, 3%? more?

Thanks thanks and thanks!

.00128 and 60% for 36/10.

I don't see any dealer money; the pull ahead program exists for up to 4 months of remaining lease payments.

I don't have any details on holdback.

mayan50

Thanks much, really appreciated. So is that MF the buy rate for the best credit (FICO 800+)? Is there any other incentive if you are a current MB lease holder?

Thanks again.

Michaell said:

mayan50 said:

Can you tell me the Feb 2015 Tier 1 MF on a 2015 E-400 Coupe 4MATIC 36 month lease please?

Also, I have the Residual as 60% for 10k miles per year, correct?

Two more things: is there any dealer money this month (are they getting any help, and/or any loyalty incentive besides the 3-month pull-forward on an existing lease)

Finally, what's average holdback these days for MB, 3%? more?

Thanks thanks and thanks!

.00128 and 60% for 36/10.

I don't see any dealer money; the pull ahead program exists for up to 4 months of remaining lease payments.

I don't have any details on holdback.

Michaell

mayan50 said:

Thanks much, really appreciated. So is that MF the buy rate for the best credit (FICO 800+)? Is there any other incentive if you are a current MB lease holder?

Thanks again.

Michaell said:

mayan50 said:

Can you tell me the Feb 2015 Tier 1 MF on a 2015 E-400 Coupe 4MATIC 36 month lease please?

Also, I have the Residual as 60% for 10k miles per year, correct?

Two more things: is there any dealer money this month (are they getting any help, and/or any loyalty incentive besides the 3-month pull-forward on an existing lease)

Finally, what's average holdback these days for MB, 3%? more?

Thanks thanks and thanks!

.00128 and 60% for 36/10.

I don't see any dealer money; the pull ahead program exists for up to 4 months of remaining lease payments.

I don't have any details on holdback.

Correct - we only quote top tier money factors.

The only incentive we see is for the pull ahead.

mayan50

Michaell,

Can you tell me the residual and money factor on the C400 4MATIC, for the 2dr Coupe and the 4dr please?
36mo/10k

And is there any dealer money/incentives on this one?

Thanks much.

Michaell

mayan50 said:

Michaell,

Can you tell me the residual and money factor on the C400 4MATIC, for the 2dr Coupe and the 4dr please?
36mo/10k

And is there any dealer money/incentives on this one?

Thanks much.

C400 (2 door and 4 door) use the standard MB money factor of around .00200

36/10 residual is 61%

No lease cash that I can see.

mayan50

Thanks, can you also tell me the 24/10 residual and mf?

Is there a 27 or 30 month option?

Michaell said:

mayan50 said:

Michaell,

Can you tell me the residual and money factor on the C400 4MATIC, for the 2dr Coupe and the 4dr please?
36mo/10k

And is there any dealer money/incentives on this one?

Thanks much.

C400 (2 door and 4 door) use the standard MB money factor of around .00200

36/10 residual is 61%

No lease cash that I can see.

Michaell

mayan50 said:

Thanks, can you also tell me the 24/10 residual and mf?

Is there a 27 or 30 month option?

Michaell said:

mayan50 said:

Michaell,

Can you tell me the residual and money factor on the C400 4MATIC, for the 2dr Coupe and the 4dr please?
36mo/10k

And is there any dealer money/incentives on this one?

Thanks much.

C400 (2 door and 4 door) use the standard MB money factor of around .00200

36/10 residual is 61%

No lease cash that I can see.

Same MF, but the 24/10 residual is 66% and the 30/10 residual is 63%.

Just to confirm, you are asking about the C-class in the E-class discussion, right?

mayan50

Yes, sorry the C400 4MATIC 4 door. I wonder why the MF is so bad on this.

Michaell

mayan50 said:

Yes, sorry the C400 4MATIC 4 door. I wonder why the MF is so bad on this.

C400's are rare, and thus MBFS and the dealers aren't willing to discount the selling price or the MF as much on them.

mayan50

Thanks. I really appreciate all of your help.

idocdavid

Hi Carman,

Thanks for recent help with 2015 Yukon Denali. Now I am about to lease a Mercedes 2015 E250 Blue tec. Would like tier 1 MF and lease rate for 36 month and 30 month 10K lease. Are there any dealer incentives ? I got a mailing that offers 3000 off MSRP for current lease owners.

allready

some dealers in so cal still show2014 e350 in inventory new are the 2014 lease mf and rv still in affect? for 27/mo 10k yr. thanks in advance. new to this great informational site trying to lease for the first time.

kyfdx

idocdavid said:

Hi Carman,

Thanks for recent help with 2015 Yukon Denali. Now I am about to lease a Mercedes 2015 E250 Blue tec. Would like tier 1 MF and lease rate for 36 month and 30 month 10K lease. Are there any dealer incentives ? I got a mailing that offers 3000 off MSRP for current lease owners.

.00111 MF and 59%/63% residual.

kyfdx

allready said:

some dealers in so cal still show2014 e350 in inventory new are the 2014 lease mf and rv still in affect? for 27/mo 10k yr. thanks in advance. new to this great informational site trying to lease for the first time.

.00136 MF and 68% residual for 27mo, 10K/yr

erinz

Hi, I'm also seeing a lot of 2014 E still in stock. Can you provide residuals and MF for a 2014 E400 12k/30 months? Thanks!

Michaell

erinz said:

Hi, I'm also seeing a lot of 2014 E still in stock. Can you provide residuals and MF for a 2014 E400 12k/30 months? Thanks!

Only 2014 E400 is the Hybrid - standard MF (.00200 or so) and 57%

allready

any idea on mf and rv for 27month 10k on 2015 e350

Michaell

allready said:

any idea on mf and rv for 27month 10k on 2015 e350

.00093 and 66%

ROBRTM5

Kyfdx - Can you pls share the MF and Residual for a 2015 E63-S.
Looking for 27/10 and 36/10

Thanks,

RM

kyfdx

ROBRTM5 said:

Kyfdx - Can you pls share the MF and Residual for a 2015 E63-S.
Looking for 27/10 and 36/10

Thanks,

RM

Standard money factor and 60% residual for 36/10.

No 27 month specials on this model.

jjg5504

Can I have MF and residual for both 2014/15 E350 4matic sedan? 27 months 12k; miles per yr

Michaell

jjg5504 said:

Can I have MF and residual for both 2014/15 E350 4matic sedan? 27 months 12k; miles per yr

2014 - .00130 and 67%

2015 - .00089 and 65%

jjg5504

Thank you! How about 2014 e350 cabriolet. 27 and 36 months 12k miles?

kyfdx

jjg5504 said:

Thank you! How about 2014 e350 cabriolet. 27 and 36 months 12k miles?

Standard money factor and 56% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr.

No 27 month specials on this model

[Deleted User]

Been shopping for E 350 rwd sedan. With interested features, the msrp is around 60,000. Targeting for selling price to be 54,000 and a down payment 3,000. Credit score gives Tier 1. 12K per year. What's the expected MF? Residual for 27 months versus 36? Los Angeles sales tax 9%. Hoping to have monthly payments including tax in the higher end the $500s (trying to avoid the 600s). Possible??

kyfdx

shop4allstuff said:

Been shopping for E 350 rwd sedan. With interested features, the msrp is around 60,000. Targeting for selling price to be 54,000 and a down payment 3,000. Credit score gives Tier 1. 12K per year. What's the expected MF? Residual for 27 months versus 36? Los Angeles sales tax 9%. Hoping to have monthly payments including tax in the higher end the $500s (trying to avoid the 600s). Possible??

.00093 MF and 65% residual for 27mo, 12K/yr. 56% for 36/12

If the $3000 down all goes to CAP cost reduction, then the payment is $528/mo.+tax for 27 months, $562/mo.+tax for 36 months.

On top of the $3000, you'll have $795 acquisition fee and about $600 title/registration fees.

rmitch64

MF and residual on 2015 E350 RWD, 27 month, 15K miles?

Michaell

rmitch64 said:

MF and residual on 2015 E350 RWD, 27 month, 15K miles?

.00093 MF and 63% residual for 27mo, 15K/yr.

justin222

Has anyone used fleet pricing when purchasing their E class? Is the additional fleet incentive off of the invoice? With my current employer i am seeing an additional 3500 off.

maxjr

Hi, are these numbers ok for 27-month 12k/yr lease of a 2015 RWD E-350?
MSRP: $59770
Final price: $50129
Residual: $40461 (69%)
MF: 0.00131
Drive off fees: $1373
Lease Payment: $533 or $576 including tax (8%)
The only way I can redo these numbers is when I roll the $1373 plus another $80 or so for title/doc fee into the lease, so only payment due on signing should be the first month lease payment. Correct?

PS: I am about 7K miles below my allowance on the 24-mo old E-350 I'm returning. Should I ask for more discount based on that?

kyfdx

maxjr said:

Hi, are these numbers ok for 27-month 12k/yr lease of a 2015 RWD E-350?
MSRP: $59770
Final price: $50129
Residual: $40461 (69%)
MF: 0.00131
Drive off fees: $1373
Lease Payment: $533 or $576 including tax (8%)
The only way I can redo these numbers is when I roll the $1373 plus another $80 or so for title/doc fee into the lease, so only payment due on signing should be the first month lease payment. Correct?

PS: I am about 7K miles below my allowance on the 24-mo old E-350 I'm returning. Should I ask for more discount based on that?

My numbers agree, except I show the residual as 65%, not 69%..

So, can't really comment on the rest of the deal, considering that discrepancy. Doubtful that you'll have any equity in a 24 month lease, even with lower miles, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

maxjr

kyfdx said:

My numbers agree, except I show the residual as 65%, not 69%..

So, can't really comment on the rest of the deal, considering that discrepancy. Doubtful that you'll have any equity in a 24 month lease, even with lower miles, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Sorry I got confused. Do you mean the standard residual on this car for 27m/12k lease should be 65%? Thanks!

kyfdx

maxjr said:

kyfdx said:

My numbers agree, except I show the residual as 65%, not 69%..

So, can't really comment on the rest of the deal, considering that discrepancy. Doubtful that you'll have any equity in a 24 month lease, even with lower miles, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Sorry I got confused. Do you mean the standard residual on this car for 27m/12k lease should be 65%? Thanks!

Yes.. 27mo, 12K/yr residual on a 2015 E350 is 65%.

maxjr

kyfdx said:

Yes.. 27mo, 12K/yr residual on a 2015 E350 is 65%.

Thanks! Yes, they also noted they made a mistake, but their new numbers are even more out of whack!

For 2015, RWD E-350:
Option 1: 24m/12K/65% Residual or $39388/MF 0.00113/MSRP: $59770/LEASE PRICE: $50444/$643.18 with 8% sales tax = $694.63 (drive off fees $1235.63)
Option 2: 36m/12K/56% Residual or $31017/MF 0.00113/MSRP: $59770/LEASE PRICE: $50444/$611.59 with 8% sales tax = $660.52 (drive off fees $1201.52).

I haven't seen 24m lease here, and the 65% residual seems to be for 27mo/12k, so that's one thing, but even with these numbers my calculations come out much lower, $562.19 plus $44.98 tax for total of $607.27 assuming that we pay $1235.63 on the day of lease (or $615.07 plus $49.21 tax for total of $664.28 assuming we roll the $1235.63 into the lease). For 36m lease, they are saying residual is 56% but the dollar number is much lower, like 52%... I'm not sure why they are making it so confusing...

Can you confirm:
- If there is even a 24m/12k lease program for E-350 and if so, what are the residuals/MF?
- What is the residual on 36m/12k lease for this car? I think I've seen both 56% and 58% in previous posts so I got a bit confused.

Thanks!

kyfdx

maxjr said:

kyfdx said:

Yes.. 27mo, 12K/yr residual on a 2015 E350 is 65%.

Thanks! Yes, they also noted they made a mistake, but their new numbers are even more out of whack!

For 2015, RWD E-350:
Option 1: 24m/12K/65% Residual or $39388/MF 0.00113/MSRP: $59770/LEASE PRICE: $50444/$643.18 with 8% sales tax = $694.63 (drive off fees $1235.63)
Option 2: 36m/12K/56% Residual or $31017/MF 0.00113/MSRP: $59770/LEASE PRICE: $50444/$611.59 with 8% sales tax = $660.52 (drive off fees $1201.52).

I haven't seen 24m lease here, and the 65% residual seems to be for 27mo/12k, so that's one thing, but even with these numbers my calculations come out much lower, $562.19 plus $44.98 tax for total of $607.27 assuming that we pay $1235.63 on the day of lease (or $615.07 plus $49.21 tax for total of $664.28 assuming we roll the $1235.63 into the lease). For 36m lease, they are saying residual is 56% but the dollar number is much lower, like 52%... I'm not sure why they are making it so confusing...

Can you confirm:
- If there is even a 24m/12k lease program for E-350 and if so, what are the residuals/MF?
- What is the residual on 36m/12k lease for this car? I think I've seen both 56% and 58% in previous posts so I got a bit confused.

Thanks!

When Mercedes Finance runs a 27 month lease special, they use the terms of the 24 month lease... same residual. I would guess in going back and forth, that they lost track of that... No one would write a 24 month lease on this model with the 27 month special available ..

Your money factors are marked up from the base .00093. I'm going to guess that your CAP cost is higher than that $50,444, as well.. What about acquisition fee, etc? Your drive off is not enough to cover 1st payment, acquisition fee and title/registration, I don't think.

Use these numbers as your base..

27/12: .00093 MF and 65% residual. MSRP/CAP as shown above: $512/mo.+tax
36/12: .00093 MF and 56% residual. MSRP/CAP as shown above: $549/mo.+tax

With MF markup to .00113: $530+tax and $566+tax

Additions to selling price? Once you have the actual CAP COST they are using on this deal, Add $38/mo. per $1000 additional to the 27 month lease and $29/mo.per $1000 to the 36 month lease.

gss0279

E Class MSRP 63,280, Cap Cost 56,780, Residual 32,821, Money Factor .00109, 36 months, 18K per year for miles, no money out of pocket. $899 per month all in. CT tax is 6.35

 

M Class MSRP 60,750, Cap Cost 57,175, Residual 30,780, Money Factor .00141, 36 months, 18K per years for miles no money out of pocket. $1009 per month all in. CT tax is 6.35

Are these good deals? 

 

warrigal

KYFDX, a very belated thanks so much for your help and response! Those ballpark numbers are very helpful. I ended up financing the car because I plan to keep it a while and 1.6% with nothing down was practically free money.

Re the price for my ordered wagon, the negotiated price included a $3,500 fleet discount through the ABA. Without that, I think the price was around 8-9% off of MSRP. I worked with Dez at MB of Long Beach and he was a straight shooter - no games or BS. I'd highly recommend touching base with him if you have not found a wagon yet.

kyfdx

gss0279 said:

E Class MSRP 63,280, Cap Cost 56,780, Residual 32,821, Money Factor .00109, 36 months, 18K per year for miles, no money out of pocket. $899 per month all in. CT tax is 6.35

 

M Class MSRP 60,750, Cap Cost 57,175, Residual 30,780, Money Factor .00141, 36 months, 18K per years for miles no money out of pocket. $1009 per month all in. CT tax is 6.35

Are these good deals? 

 

Money factors are marked up in both case.. base MF is .00089 and .00111 for those two models. Hard to comment on pricing, as I'm not sure how they handle the extra 9K miles over a standard lease, but given the money factor markup, I'd guess other charges are marked up, as well.