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Thank you for helping everyone on the forum to achieve the best deals possible in their region.
I would appreciate your input on the following.
2015 Accord Sport CVT in Philadelphia, PA Suburbs.
My 2 most competitive quotes are
Dealer 1
$21,400 Accord Sport CVT
+ $450 for accessory package = Trunk Tray, Splash Guards, Wheel Locks.
Selling Price of $21,850 with accessory package
$75.00 Document Fee
only additional cost would be Tax & Tags.
Dealer 2
$21,580 Accord Sport CVT
price includes all cost and nothing is added to this price except Tax &Tags
Also NO dealer add ons installed unless requested by customer, car sits as it did rolling off the assembly line at this price.
This dealer will match my above quote of $21,400 without the accessory package
Again, Just add Tax & Tags.
Dealers 3 and 4 were not even in the ballpark at approximately $1500 more. Will post more on this later.
Someone I know mentioned that Pennsylvania has a cap on Document Fees of around $75 to $100 not sure if this information is correct or not. Can you verify this?
Seems most dealers want to give verbal quotes and not through e-mail so buyers can't leverage one dealer against the other as easily.
Will post all dealers names and quotes and experience once the deal is final.
Thanks again,
Mike
PA doc's are listed at no limited on state sites, but most deals I brokered or seen in PA are $75 to low 100's. NY and CA are capped at 75 and 80 dollars as are a few other states.
Invoice w dest charge on your 15 Sport model = $23,391. buying at dealer 2 for 21,400 excluding accessories and doc fee is a nice deal in PA. @1991 below invoice. If you want the access. pk make dealer 1 split the cost or throw in for the sale tomm. Pit one dealer against the other . You are in the drivers seat and have the leverage right now to seal a better deal.
I can say with certainty that dealer 1 would throw those items in the deal for my business, I would wave my money in his face letting them know I'm going down the block to buy at X Honda as soon as I hang up the phone if you wont take my final offer. Dealer would be foolish to lose your business.......... that package cost the dealer peanuts.
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23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Selling Price - 26,650
Adjusted Price - 21,085.76 (includes trunk tray, wheel locks, door edge guards, nitro tires, all weather floor mats)
Doc Fee - 697
Taxable Fees - 48.48
Tax - 1,360.26
Subtotal Price - 23,191.50
Misc. Fees - 148.25
Total OTD Price - 23,339.75
Thanks again to everyone for helping me get this deal!
The sticker price without destination fee is $33,630
Adding an $820 destination fee gives an MSRP (incl. destination fee) of $34,450.
The dealer quoted me a selling price for the car of $29,580 without destination fee.
This becomes $30,400 when I add the $820 destination fee. This seems a lot better than the True Car estimate of $31,469 which also includes the destination fee.
The dealer provided a documentation fee of $400 which brings the price from $30,400 up to $30,800 at this point.
There are no additional options or dealer installed extras that I need.
What I’m trying to do is calculate an estimate of my OTD price and I have some questions here that I hoped you can answer.
The sales tax in NJ is 7%. So I assume the tax is applied to the $30,800 price stated above which includes both the destination fee and the doc fee and that brings the price to 32,956. Does this sound right?
My understanding of the NJ DMV charges for a new car are:
Four year registration fee including new plates: $211.
Title: $60.
Total tire disposal fee (for 5 tires): $7.50.
Total DMV fees: $289.
Are there any other DMV fees that I’m missing?
I assume that there is no tax on the DMV fee. Is that right?
Adding the DMV gives me a price of $33,245
There are no incentives that I know of at this time.
Are there any other charges I can expect from the dealer or can I assume that the OTD price will be the $33,245 shown in the above line? The Kelley Blue Book OTD estimate for this 2015 Honda Accord Touring Sedan is $33,822, so the dealer’s price looks good if my assumptions and calculations are right.
Am I doing the arithmetic right and what else do I need to consider before responding to the dealer?
Thank you for your help.
Car: $27,032
Dest: $820
Doc Fees: $300 (state regulated max)
Taxes: $1689
MVA: $309
Total: $30,150
Still in negotiations at this stage. Thanks in advance.
2015 accord sport
$25485
$21624 Selling Price
$795 Pro Pack (Splash Guards, Wheel Locks, Trunk Tray)
$1687 Tax
$275 Dmv
$80 Doc Fee
$8.75 Tire fee
$24470.18 Total Price
Thoughts? or recommendations for dealerships in so cal?
Hi Brian,
Finalized the deal last night with dealer 2.
2015 Accord Sport with wheel locks only.
Selling price of $21,100
Tax $1266.00
Doc Fee $130
Tags $160.55
Total $22660.55
Brian, thanks again for all the time you invest and information you provide to the forum
Dealer 1 was Hamilton Honda in Hamilton NJ
Dealer 2 where car was purchased is Conicelli Honda in Conshohocken PA.
Transaction was great, car was all prepped and ready to go when we arrived. The internet manager was very nice and easy going and returned call when promised. Our salesman was excellent, very friendly and answered every question about the car instantly. Salesman was really a great guy. Finance person was also great and did not ask over and over if we were interested in any add on items at the end.
Good luck everyone.
i went with Great Lakes Honda in Akron. Great dealership. This was actually their initial offer so could have saved myself a lot of time but I know it was the best deal in northeast Ohio.
Thanks Everyone.
2015 Honda Accord EX-L sedan 4 cylinder
MSRP $28,420
Destination Charge $820
Dealer Installed Accessories $291
Retail Price $29,531
Selling Price $24,521
Doc Fee $299
Total Price $24,820
Taxes and Title $1,571.75
OTD $26,391.75
Did my research and decided to offer $24,820 for an immediate purchase. ($1997 below invoice for an EX-L with no accessories but including freight and all dealer fees.) Started making phone calls Wednesday afternoon Jul 29. Following Brian's script the first dealer I called (Brown's Honda City, Glen Burnie, MD) said yes to the price. They even threw in the accessories they had already installed. By 5:30 I was headed home with the car.
As I left, I told the sales manager it may not have been the best deal ever, but it was a great price and I was happy with it. His response was that it might not have been the absolutely best deal ever but it was mighty close to it.
Thanks to Brian this was the easiest car buying experience I've ever had.
Selling price - $21000 (before tax)
Only accessory - Splash gurad
Extra 7 year/xxxxx miles B2B warranty on top of Honda's 3 year - $14xx (not sure if it is a good deal)
Thanks for the forum giving me an idea to negotiate.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
ACCORD EX with All Weather Floor Mats
Invoice $23,635.00
Destination $820.00
dealer proc. $300.00
discount -$2,500.00
Total $22,255.00
Tax (MD 6%) $1,329.30
tags and Title $299.00
OTD Price $23,783.30
This is with the .09 APR from Honda
$5k down, no trade in
MSRP: $32,270
Invoice: $29,509
Destination:$820
Total dealer cost before holdback, etc: $30,329
Selling price: $27,600, which includes destination charge of $820 and cost of accessories: wheel locks, trunk try, splash guards, and tire nitro.
Dealer proc: $300
Tax(MD 6%): $1634
Title, registration, and fees: $221.50
OTD excl trade: $29,775.50
Feel like I could have gotten a cpl hundred more off but had limited time to negotiate. One other dealer, about an hour away, had my first color choice at a similar price, but dealer would only negotiate pricing in person and not via email. Other dealers more than an hour away had similar, and competitive, first or second offers but included accessories I didn't want (and couldn't always negotiate away or down) and my second or third choice on color. Instead, purchased five miles from home and, unless I calculated wrong, got my first color choice for about $2800 below invoice. Hoping that's decent. Based on the info in this thread, I'm thinking it is. Thanks everyone.
Selling Price: 21185 (Including destination Fees)
Doc Fees: 250
OH Tax: 1607
Title: 33.50
Total: 23023 (OTD)
This is with the .09 APR from Honda
$3k down, no trade in
I think it was good deal, thanks for your help.
2015 Accord Coupe EX auto in CA
MSRP $27,120
Selling Price $22,025
Cap Cost $22,621
Purchase option $14628.60
Due on Delivery $627.00
Monthly Payment, includes taxes: $253.68
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Dealer: Ourisman Honda Laurel -- Jim Powell. Very easy to deal with. No tricks and it was a quick in and out. Took advantage of the .9% Honda APR for 60 months.
$23,635.00 Invoice
$143.00 All Weather Floor Mats
$820.00 Destination
$300.00 Dealer Processing
-$3,200.00 Discounts Honda to dealer - dealer to customer
$21,698.00 Subtotal
$1,301.88 MD Tax
$299.00 MD Tags/Reg
$23,298.88 Final OTD
That was with delivery, and Without Title/Tax/License/Doc. They matched an online Honda Care warranty quote for $1105 (8yr/120K/Zero Deductible).
I feel I could have done a little better, but only dealt with one dealer. They are a nice dealership with no bait and switch and no pressure selling of addon/extras during the closing.
Good luck to all.
Does this sound reasonable? Thanks!
Good price.......................... Buy vehicle.
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@brian125
I am getting 26.4 K OTD with 6%sales tax on 2015 ACCORD Ex-L. In north Florida region, where do I go from here? Appreciate your help. Also wants $500 more trunk guards, wheel locks, and moonroof visor. Another dealer offered me 26.1K OTD with no accessories. The 26.1k includes an outrageous $700 dealer fee.
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What is current Dealer Cash or Incentive that Dealer is getting that he can pass on to me so I can also get Accord below Invoice? And how much below Invoice should I expect or negotiate for?
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What at will be Invoice Price for Honda Accord 2015 EX-L Automatic with standard features (no navigation), color red, silver or white?
dealer is saying he will give $1698 below invoice but I don't know invoice
Minus dealers offer off above number . Make sure dealer also added the 820 freight charge onto his number.
The 1698 below invoice is a good deal . Your real below invoice price should be calculated after subtracting dealers doc fee charge off that............ #
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Vehicle of Interest: 2015 Honda Accord EX-L
Your Price:* $27708.41 (invoice is $26,817)
Price offer $25,119
Doc Fees + $200 Estimated Sales Tax Change + $2,198Based on Price Offer: $25,119 License & Registration + $185 LA Brake Tag + $10 LA Tire Fee + $8Can I ask for bigger disocount on Invoice price - more than $1698? I see on forum people have received $2000-2500 off Invoice.
Thanks to the forum, Brian125 and Moderator
thanks
Jim Coleman, and O'Donnell Honda are the other 2 dealers on my favorite List probably not posted in my dealer posted thread
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in Tampa FL area. got 3 quotes...doc seems high on all Honda Accord EX-L
Selling Price $ 24750
DOC Stamps $ 89
DOC Fee $ 847
Tax $ 1591
State Fee $ 228
Final $ 27,417.44
Unfortunately for you the State of FL. . has one of the highest doc fee's in the country. As you negotiate thru this month making your best deal at months end unless a dealer gives in sooner, Compensate each dealers doc fee charge by lowering your asking price of the EXL model.
Ask each dealership if you Call, Email, or Visit...... what there doc fee charge is ?
Your above deal is................... $1189 below invoice after taking doc's into consideration. You can do better
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Not much more if any. How you find out is???? Make a list of 20 or 30 dealerships/ call each dealerships Internet MGR. . Tell them for the sale that moment beat my price. You will have your answer within a hour if nobody bites at that price. You may get a taker at months end. Probably not now going into the 2nd week of this month.
Dealers needing to close out there monthly sale quotas numbers may come close, match or beat your above deal.
You have a very good deal on the table right now . Subtract your dealers doc fee charge from this deal and that is your true below invoice # . Also make sure this deal of 25,100 includes the $820 destination charge.
EXL Invoice w/ dest charge = $28,710
Good luck
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Accord sedan EX-L + Nav, MSRP $33,090, Invoice $30,449, Sell Price $26,729. the best price I could get so far, but I am not done
all 4dr Sedans
2015 Accord v6 EXL with Nav
MSRP $33,090
Invoice $30,449
Sale price: $26,729
2015 Accord v6 EXL
MSRP $31,315
Sale price: $25,110
2015 Accord EX
MSRP $26,650
Sale price: $20,855
2015 Honda Accord 4cyl EX-L with Nav
Sale Price : 24,836
starting to shop 2015 Accord LX in Tennessee. So far best price:
Vehicle: $19,187
doc fees: $598
taxes: $1620.70
otd: $21,405.70
i would like to get to $20k or under OTD. Do u think this is possible if I wait until end of the month?