2015 BMW 3-Series Lease Questions

kyfdx

moodyhank said:

Can I please get the 15k numbers for the 2015 and 2016 328 wagon (both diesel and gas) in Colorado? Would be interested in shorter than 36 month terms if numbers are competitive...

36mo, 15K/yr

2015
Gas: .00134 MF and 62% residual. $1500 buildout cash
Diesel: .00134 MF and 61% residual. $1500 buildout and $500 eco credit.

2016
.00134 MF and 59% residual. $750 option credit. Either model

No short term leases worth considering

brooklynaudi

Can I have the numbers for

2015 320iX 12/36k
2015 328iX 12/36k

Thanks!

greenthree

dracular2002 said:

Hi everybody. I got a lease deal of 2015  328i xdrive
Msrp 52100
Discount 7300
Selling 44800
Rv. 64%
Mf.  0.00130
Drive. Off 1360 (0 down, first month waved)
Monthly. 419 + tax = 446
Is this. A. Good deal?

Anyone know a dealer in New England (preferably Massachusetts) that will do a deal like this? Incredible deal! Thanks

devilsadvct33

How much does each MSD reduce the MF by? Sorry if this is already on the board, but I can't seem to find it. Thanks.

kyfdx

brooklynaudi said:

Can I have the numbers for

2015 320iX 12/36k
2015 328iX 12/36k

Thanks!

.00134 MF and 62%/63% residual for 320/328. $1500 buildout cash

kyfdx

devilsadvct33 said:

How much does each MSD reduce the MF by? Sorry if this is already on the board, but I can't seem to find it. Thanks.

.00007 with 7 MSDs allowed, for a total reduction of .00049

devilsadvct33

Does anyone know if you can buy extra miles from bmw during the lease term? Salesman is telling me bmw allows you to buy mileage before lease termination for $0.16 per mile.

kyfdx

devilsadvct33 said:

Does anyone know if you can buy extra miles from bmw during the lease term? Salesman is telling me bmw allows you to buy mileage before lease termination for $0.16 per mile.

That's true.. It used to be you had to purchase it before the last six months of the lease, but I've heard that's been relaxed some.

It's important to do the math, based on your expected use.

greenthree

new deal on the table:

2015 328xi

MSRP 51,595
Selling 44,060

Total down out of pocket 2,112
base monthly 422
monthly including Mass State 6.25% tax 448
3 year, 12K miles per year
MF .00134
Residual 63%

How did I do?

Michaell

greenthree said:

new deal on the table:

2015 328xi

MSRP 51,595
Selling 44,060

Total down out of pocket 2,112
base monthly 422
monthly including Mass State 6.25% tax 448
3 year, 12K miles per year
MF .00134
Residual 63%

How did I do?

Looks pretty solid ... I get $450/mo with those numbers (with tax).

devilsadvct33

Is BMW supporting terms longer than 36 months on leases for a 328? If so, do you have the money factors and residuals for those terms assuming 12k per year? Thanks.

Michaell

devilsadvct33 said:

Is BMW supporting terms longer than 36 months on leases for a 328? If so, do you have the money factors and residuals for those terms assuming 12k per year? Thanks.

Not really; residual values for anything longer than 36 months are terrible.

135iusn

Michaell said:

devilsadvct33 said:

When you buy the MF down with BMW how is the amount of each MSD payment calculated? Is it the original payment before the reduced MF less the sales tax, or is some other calculation used? Thanks.

As you describe - payment with original MF. rounded up to the next $50.

** I heard the opposite, it's rounded with the new MF rounded up to next %50 - no?

Michaell

135iusn said:

Michaell said:

devilsadvct33 said:

When you buy the MF down with BMW how is the amount of each MSD payment calculated? Is it the original payment before the reduced MF less the sales tax, or is some other calculation used? Thanks.

As you describe - payment with original MF. rounded up to the next $50.

** I heard the opposite, it's rounded with the new MF rounded up to next %50 - no?

That could be correct

kyfdx

135iusn said:

Michaell said:

devilsadvct33 said:

When you buy the MF down with BMW how is the amount of each MSD payment calculated? Is it the original payment before the reduced MF less the sales tax, or is some other calculation used? Thanks.

As you describe - payment with original MF. rounded up to the next $50.

** I heard the opposite, it's rounded with the new MF rounded up to next %50 - no?

When I used MSDs on a BMW, it was the new lower payment, rounded up to the next $50 increment.

With Infiniti, it was the original payment, rounded up to the next $25 increment.

A very successful/profitable transaction all three times I used MSDs.

willdaus

Hi looking at a BMW 328i.
Can you provide residual and MF for October on 2015 328i, 36mo, 12k miles/yr.?

MSRP = $44,710
Cap Cost right now = $38,710

I am in AR and I'm a little confused on taxes here in terms of leases. Can anyone provide clarity on taxes for AR? ...I've been told it depends on county (I'm in Washington), VW said 11.5% and BMW said 9.75% not on full purchase price like it used to be.

Finally, I have a trade in of a '06 BMW 330XI with 124k miles. Guessing i'll probably get around $6500 for it. Can I use some of that amount for the 7 MSD's? What would happen to the rest of the trade in amount - does it just turn into a down payment? How do you calculate the cost of MSD's?

Thanks for your help in advance!

bananaero

Hello,

Can I get the residual and mf for 2015 335i xdrive and 2016 340i xdrive?  Both manual transmissions and 36months/10k miles?  Any incentives?

Thanks!

kyfdx

willdaus said:

Hi looking at a BMW 328i.
Can you provide residual and MF for October on 2015 328i, 36mo, 12k miles/yr.?

MSRP = $44,710
Cap Cost right now = $38,710

I am in AR and I'm a little confused on taxes here in terms of leases. Can anyone provide clarity on taxes for AR? ...I've been told it depends on county (I'm in Washington), VW said 11.5% and BMW said 9.75% not on full purchase price like it used to be.

Finally, I have a trade in of a '06 BMW 330XI with 124k miles. Guessing i'll probably get around $6500 for it. Can I use some of that amount for the 7 MSD's? What would happen to the rest of the trade in amount - does it just turn into a down payment? How do you calculate the cost of MSD's?

Thanks for your help in advance!

.00134 MF and 63% residual. $1500 buildout cash

Sorry, no insight into sales tax on leases in Arkansas.

Really, you should sell that car yourself. Dealers don't want 100K+ mileage cars and will price their offer, accordingly. But, if you do trade it, you can do whatever you want with the money. You can have them cut you a check for the full amount, and then use whatever you need for your Due at Signing on the new lease. It's not required that you put all that money towards the new lease.

Michaell

bananaero said:

Hello,

Can I get the residual and mf for 2015 335i xdrive and 2016 340i xdrive?  Both manual transmissions and 36months/10k miles?  Any incentives?

Thanks!

.00134 MF for both

335ix - 64% and $1500 buildout cash.
340ix - 62% and $750 option credit.

135iusn

'15 328d with MSRP $56330 quoted sell price of $48,507. 63% 36/10. I 've requested full lease breakdown as they are quoting $521 with $1761 down.. Plus they didn't consider 7 MSD's as requested. I think the payment should be in low $400s'

Michaell

135iusn said:

'15 328d with MSRP $56330 quoted sell price of $48,507. 63% 36/10. I 've requested full lease breakdown as they are quoting $521 with $1761 down.. Plus they didn't consider 7 MSD's as requested. I think the payment should be in low $400s'

I get $474/mo + tax with the base MF of .00134; applying MSDs, the payment drops to $433/mo + tax.

135iusn

Dealer says money factor to .00126 with 7 MSD's.

Michaell

135iusn said:

Dealer says money factor to .00126 with 7 MSD's.

Which means it's inflated to begin with.

Reach out to other BMW dealers; it only takes one to make a deal on your terms.

135iusn

agree and plan to move on...the base MF with 7 MSD's should be .00081? Is that for all BMW leases? Thanks for you input.. so very helpful.. are you employed by Edmunds.. you are so timely with updates..that's helpful too.

nuvolari6

Hello,
What are the MF and Residual for 2015 335i and 335xi models w/ 12k mile this month?

Thanks

Michaell

135iusn said:

agree and plan to move on...the base MF with 7 MSD's should be .00081? Is that for all BMW leases? Thanks for you input.. so very helpful.. are you employed by Edmunds.. you are so timely with updates..that's helpful too.

.00085 this month, since the base MF is .00134

I'm not an employee of Edmunds, but affiliated with them, yes.

Helps that I work from home

135iusn

I'll keep note of this for the month.. that way save you from telling me over and over..

note to self... " .00085 this month (Oct-15), since the base MF is .00134 "

Michaell

nuvolari6 said:

Hello,
What are the MF and Residual for 2015 335i and 335xi models w/ 12k mile this month?

Thanks

.00134 and 63%. $1500 buildout cash.

bimmerfan11

Hi,
Can you please post numbers for the following (in NJ)?

2015 335i xDrive 15K/36 months
2015 328i xDrive 15K/36 months
2016 328i xDrive 15k/36 months 

Thanks! 

kyfdx

bimmerfan11 said:

Hi,
Can you please post numbers for the following (in NJ)?

2015 335i xDrive 15K/36 months
2015 328i xDrive 15K/36 months
2016 328i xDrive 15k/36 months 

Thanks! 

.00134 MF

61% residual. $1500 buildout cash
61% residual. $1500 buildout cash
59% residual. $750 option credit

madbeans

Hi,

Can I please get the numbers for 2015 328i xDrive 10K/36 in IL.

I also have a question on executive demos... I know of the .20/mile reduction for over 500miles, but are the lease figures applicable to these cars(including the buildout)? And is the buildout reduce the negotiated "sales price" or figures somewhere else?

Thanks

kyfdx

madbeans said:

Hi,

Can I please get the numbers for 2015 328i xDrive 10K/36 in IL.

I also have a question on executive demos... I know of the .20/mile reduction for over 500miles, but are the lease figures applicable to these cars(including the buildout)? And is the buildout reduce the negotiated "sales price" or figures somewhere else?

Thanks

.00134 MF and 64% residual. $1500 lease cash.

You'll have to ask the dealer about their specific units, but for the most part, service loaners, demos and factory official cars all qualify for the new car program.

I'm not sure how the buildout cash is handled. It will either be a reduction from the negotiated price (good), or listed as a rebate and cap cost reduction (not as good, because then it's taxable).

fireguyy

Can you tell me is this an OK deal for a 2015 328i xDrive?

First month payment $319
Motor Vehicle Fee $310.50
Bank Fee $925
Doc Fee $369
NJ State Sales Tax $915.89
Refundable Security Deposits $350 x 7 = $2450
Total Due at Signing $5289.39

MSRP $44,700.00
Sale Price $38,052.00
MF .00085
Residual 64%

Michaell

fireguyy said:

Can you tell me is this an OK deal for a 2015 328i xDrive?

First month payment $319
Motor Vehicle Fee $310.50
Bank Fee $925
Doc Fee $369
NJ State Sales Tax $915.89
Refundable Security Deposits $350 x 7 = $2450
Total Due at Signing $5289.39

MSRP $44,700.00
Sale Price $38,052.00
MF .00085
Residual 64%

I get the same number .. only way to improve on it is to negotiate a lower selling price.

csnyder335i

Went to the BMW dealer on Saturday to order my my 340i. Already talked to the CA and agreed on the price $750 over invoice which included window tint. Put my deposit down that is now on my CC and was told he would email me the production # and order sheet. Fine I have used the CA before and he was busy so whatever. It's now Wed and no emails no production #. Shoot an email and get a reply 30 min later. He says he needs to talk to the manager as she was not aware of the deal and he jumped the gun giving me the deal and although he thinks we can over come this he needs to talk to her. What the heck? The deal is good but it's not great so not sure what the issue is. Thoughts on what todo here? Checked just now and they charged my CC $1000 for the deposit.

Michaell

csnyder335i said:

Went to the BMW dealer on Saturday to order my my 340i. Already talked to the CA and agreed on the price $750 over invoice which included window tint. Put my deposit down that is now on my CC and was told he would email me the production # and order sheet. Fine I have used the CA before and he was busy so whatever. It's now Wed and no emails no production #. Shoot an email and get a reply 30 min later. He says he needs to talk to the manager as she was not aware of the deal and he jumped the gun giving me the deal and although he thinks we can over come this he needs to talk to her. What the heck? The deal is good but it's not great so not sure what the issue is. Thoughts on what todo here? Checked just now and they charged my CC $1000 for the deposit.

You can always dispute the CC charge, if it comes to that.

Is there anything is writing that shows the agreement to $750 over invoice on your ordered car? If not, then it may be difficult to get the dealer to hold to that number. Talk to the manager directly and see where they stand.

jmaconwatkins

Hello - can I get October residual, money factor, and rebate/incentives for 328i, three-year lease:

2015 - 12k and 15k
2016 - 12k and 15k

thank you so much!

Michaell

jmaconwatkins said:

Hello - can I get October residual, money factor, and rebate/incentives for 328i, three-year lease:

2015 - 12k and 15k
2016 - 12k and 15k

thank you so much!

.00134 for both

36/15 numbers:
2015 - 61% and $1500 buildout cash
2016 - 59% and $750 option credit

Add 2% for 12K

jmaconwatkins

jmaconwatkins said:

Hello - can I get October residual, money factor, and rebate/incentives for 328i, three-year lease:

2015 - 12k and 15k
2016 - 12k and 15k

thank you so much!

Michaell said:

jmaconwatkins said:

Hello - can I get October residual, money factor, and rebate/incentives for 328i, three-year lease:

2015 - 12k and 15k
2016 - 12k and 15k

thank you so much!

.00134 for both

36/15 numbers:
2015 - 61% and $1500 buildout cash
2016 - 59% and $750 option credit

Add 2% for 12K

Isn't it strange that 2015 residual is higher than 2016? I would have thought that these numbers would have been reversed. Or is this BMW providing an incentive to liquidate 2015 models?

Michaell

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jmaconwatkins said:

jmaconwatkins said:

Hello - can I get October residual, money factor, and rebate/incentives for 328i, three-year lease:

2015 - 12k and 15k
2016 - 12k and 15k

thank you so much!

Michaell said:

jmaconwatkins said:

Hello - can I get October residual, money factor, and rebate/incentives for 328i, three-year lease:

2015 - 12k and 15k
2016 - 12k and 15k

thank you so much!

.00134 for both

36/15 numbers:
2015 - 61% and $1500 buildout cash
2016 - 59% and $750 option credit

Add 2% for 12K

Isn't it strange that 2015 residual is higher than 2016? I would have thought that these numbers would have been reversed. Or is this BMW providing an incentive to liquidate 2015 models?

Exactly - trying to clear out the 2015 inventory.

jmaconwatkins

Thanks, Michaell, for the quick responses. One followup question: I'm looking at leasing a dealer loaner CPO 328i - what is the current discount/impact to the residual value? (approximately 4k miles on the car now).

Michaell

jmaconwatkins said:

Thanks, Michaell, for the quick responses. One followup question: I'm looking at leasing a dealer loaner CPO 328i - what is the current discount/impact to the residual value? (approximately 4k miles on the car now).

You should get more of a discount from sticker, but the residual is adjusted downward as well - probably at .20/mile

abhiku

Can you give 2015 320i 24/10K and 36/10K numbers please? Thank you

kyfdx

abhiku said:

Can you give 2015 320i 24/10K and 36/10K numbers please? Thank you

.00134 MF and 69%/63% residual. $1500 buildout cash

abhiku

kyfdx said:

abhiku said:

Can you give 2015 320i 24/10K and 36/10K numbers please? Thank you

.00134 MF and 69%/63% residual. $1500 buildout cash

Thank you!

sdq9284

Reading this thread has been a huge resource. I'm considering a CPO Elite 2015 328i xDrive, now with 9K miles on it. I believe the dealer will do a lease after the price is negotiated--it was on offer for almost exactly Edmund's dealer CPO price for its feature set, but price has now dropped below that. Does BMWFS do leases on CPOs, and what would the base MF and residual be for such a car? Thanks!

willdaus

This sound like a decent deal?
2015 BMW 328i
MSRP $44,710
Adjusted price $38,644
36mo/12k
Residual 63%
Didn't tell me MF but tells me it's the best
Using 7 MSD's at $400 = $2800
1st payment = $369
Additional down = $411
Total cash down = $3580

Monthly = $369

What do you think?
Additionally, I'm not seeing any acquisition fee, title or doc fees. DO you think they'll spring these on me later? Or is a chance they waive? Only "fee" seems to be "service and handling" fee which is $129 and added to the adjusted price to make $38,773.

Seems like a good deal to me...but this was first offer dealer came out with. (btw, this is a loaner vehicle with 1,050 miles on it).

willdaus

Tax is 9.5% on monthly amount

kyfdx

sdq9284 said:

Reading this thread has been a huge resource. I'm considering a CPO Elite 2015 328i xDrive, now with 9K miles on it. I believe the dealer will do a lease after the price is negotiated--it was on offer for almost exactly Edmund's dealer CPO price for its feature set, but price has now dropped below that. Does BMWFS do leases on CPOs, and what would the base MF and residual be for such a car? Thanks!

If the car was a demo/service loaner or factory official car and can be leased with the new car program, then the dealer will use that. If it's not eligible for the new car program, then the CPO lease will probably not be cost-efficient.

kyfdx

willdaus said:

This sound like a decent deal?
2015 BMW 328i
MSRP $44,710
Adjusted price $38,644
36mo/12k
Residual 63%
Didn't tell me MF but tells me it's the best
Using 7 MSD's at $400 = $2800
1st payment = $369
Additional down = $411
Total cash down = $3580

Monthly = $369

What do you think?
Additionally, I'm not seeing any acquisition fee, title or doc fees. DO you think they'll spring these on me later? Or is a chance they waive? Only "fee" seems to be "service and handling" fee which is $129 and added to the adjusted price to make $38,773.

Seems like a good deal to me...but this was first offer dealer came out with. (btw, this is a loaner vehicle with 1,050 miles on it).

That looks really good. I get $351/mo.+tax.. but, I'm not accounting for any current mileage on the vehicle. I used .00085 for the MF, and they are too, likely.

I don't see tax or the acquisition fee mentioned in your quote. Does the $369/mo. include tax? If the actual money due at signing is $3580, they have to have included the acquisition fee..... but, anything can happen before you've actually nailed down the deal.

As it stands, it's a great deal.