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BUT it should adapt to 87 by spark retard, which most people would never notice. There's something wrong if you're getting knocking or pinging on 87.
See your dealer. It could be your gas in your area is formulated so that it causes that.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
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- 17" Chrome Clad Aluminum Alloy Wheels
- Power Glass Sunroof
- Infinity Intermezzo Surround Sound System
- Inferno Red Tinted Pearlcoat Paint
Mark
currently, there exists a $3000 rebate on the pacifica valid until 03/31/2004. anyone know if this rebate will continue through April, will increase, disappear, etc? thanks.
I have not yet started any dialog w/ my sales person, just wanted price to start with. Suggestions Wanted!!!! Thanks All!
Lynzee
By the way, that price of around invoice is BEFORE your rebate. You will actually pay around 3000 BELOW dealer invoice or even a little better. Remember, you are working from DEALER INVOICE not LIST or MSRP.
And don't forget to get the free oil change coupons!
Good Luck. It is a great car...we love it so far!
Build date: 07/07/03
Miles: 17
Color: Silver with Dark Gray Cloth.
It is the "Luxury Model" $1,705.00 package.
MSRP: $31,230.00
DISCOUNT: ($2012.00) (At Invoice)
DISCOUNT: ($425.00) (Below Invoice)
TRADE-IN: ($17,600) (2003 Jeep Liberty Limited 4x4)
CASH
DIFFERENCE: $11,193.00
TAX LIC: $807.00
BAL ON JEEP: $20,500.00
LESS REBATE: ($3,000.00)
TOTAL FINANCED: $29,500.00
I did not like taking a hit on my Jeep, but we seriously needed more room. I think I did pretty well with the purchase price of the Pacifica, but got my rebate pretty well absorbed by my balance owed on the Jeep.
2004 Chrysler Pacifica 26R Package, White with Taupe Leather, Note: the 26R package has quite a few desirable options....................
Note : I had no trade, and the dealers in Houston, Tx. were definitely willing to negotiate. I am happy to report that I purchased my 26R Pacifica with factory leather for $25,700 plus the usual t,t&L...............
The dealer was: DeMontrond.com, Conroe Tx.
DeMontrond AutoCountry, Conroe, Tx.
We had a reasonable lease payment, and since it was a Volvo (great reputation for longevity), we leased for 72 months. At the end, we had gone over miles (but not by much), and our residual ended up being $4,000 LESS than the KBB value of the car.
For us, it worked out great.
thanks
I would also recommend getting the VIN of the vehicle you're interested and run a search at Chrysler site for recalls at http://www.chrysler.com/webselfservice/chrysler/index.jsp?screenName=recall&country=us&emailUrl=goToEmailForm%28%27R%27%29.
I'm not sure if this was the best deal but we were able to purchase a Pac last week at 1% below invoice before the rebate ($3000 cash or $2000 cash/0% financing) with the DaimlerChrylser Affiliate Rewards program. We went with an 04 due to the incentives.
Hope this helps!
So the full deal is you get employee pricing, no dealer fee, and the incentives. The incentives are $3000 or 0% financing or $2000 with 0.9% financing.
My salesman has told me that all Chrysler dealers have been authorized by the manufacturer to offer "green sheets" for any customer. This is on 2004s only I believe.
The Green Sheet is the Chrysler employee price. The only catch is that your dealer must go get a green sheet from an factory employee. The dealer I am working with has had no problems doing this. I also talked to another dealer about 100 miles away to see if they could match. They told me they had their manager working on getting a "green sheet" for me. So see, it can be done if you ask! And the money you save is well worth it. And it also automatically gets rid of the $99 "dealer processing fee" as well.
If you want to mention specifics, tell your dealer that Reuthers in St Louis is advertising (and they have ads in the paper every weekend that states this), that they will give Green Sheet pricing to all customers.
I will end up paying $32,700 for a fully loaded 2004 AWD that retails for $40,400.
Good luck!
Regards... Vikd
the lot directly. I live in the Minneapolis area.
I received many replies, about half were actual price quotes, the
rest were an invite to call or visit the lot. I'd been pretty specific
about the vehicle and options I wanted, so there would be no reason not
to just give me a price.
One dealership, Walser in Hopkins touted it's no-negotiation "we just give you the lowest price" way of prices.
After talking with some other dealerships and comparing what they actually could get in stock, Walser did, in fact, turn out to have the lowest price on the vehicle with options I wanted.
The internet sale manager did not try to sell me options I didn't want, or talk me into a higher priced vehicle.
He treated me with respect, and did not say anything dumb
like "you really look good in that car". (Being female, that has happened in the past, to which I reply, I really don't care how I look in the car, I care about the car). I decided to buy the vehicle at a bit more than $6000 below MSRP. It was a few hundred below what Edmunds TMV pricing was for the Pacifica with the options I wanted.
They played no games with my trade-in... their appraiser looked
it over while I was test driving the new car. The price they offered
was a few hundred above what Edmunds site estimated, and about what I
thought a dealership would offer me based on Kelly Blue Book and condition of the car. They explained their offer, and what they would be doing to my trade in to sell it. Everything they said was exactly what I would have done to the car had I kept it.
Their offer was separate from the deal on the new Pacifica. That is, even if I didn't buy the new car, they would write me a check and buy my old car if I wanted to sell it to them.
The finance manager was cordial, no pressure. I asked him
about extended warranty. (I brought it up.. not him. I've had horrible experiences with guys practically trying to bully me into buying the extended warranty). He gave the price, a brochure, and said I could
purchase it now, if I wanted, or anytime within the 3 yr regular warranty time frame.
I apologize for the lengthy posting, but this was the most
no pressure, pleasant car buying experience I've ever had. The
internet salesperson (I know I'm not supposed to mention names) and
the finance person were professional, straightforward and a pleasure to deal with. I was expecting this to be an ordeal, and it was great.
If my experience with the car and servicing is just as great, I'll be one happy camper!
17" Chrome Clad Aluminum Alloy Wheels
Navigation System w/GPS
Power Glass Sunroof
Rear Seat Video System
Leather Seats
Infinity Intermezzo Surround Sound System
6-Disc In-Dash CD/DVD Player
Heated Seats Group
Power Liftgate
Quick Order Package
MSRP of $38,410 ... our price was $30,569 (with $3k rebate). We shopped at local dealerships for weeks, and ended up completely frustrated at the time we wasted there. We sold our van at a used Carmax dealership near our hometown, flew to Atlanta the next morning, signed the papers and drove our new car home. It was a breeze. When I told the local dealers about the deal we were going to get, they practically made fun of me for believing it ... they said it was too good to be true. I'm so tempted to drive my new car into one of their lots along with my buyers invoice just to show them!
Does anyone else have a Carmax buying experience?
This was the owners demo and should have about 4-5,000 miles on it. List is $37,310, invoice is $34,586 and dealership's first offeris $29,995 after rebate, plus taxes and fees.
Hmm!
I found a New, 2004 Pacifica in Michigan with 326 miles on it. However, it'd been dinged in the passenger's front (broke the headlight, bumper, and fender). Turns out, someone got into a fender-bender WHILE TEST DRIVING the car! Since the car dealership realized they couldn't sell it as a "new" car anymore, they explained it to the insurance company, which totalled it, and sold it for salvage.
This car still had the window sticker in the window ("R" package with the MSRP of $31,230). It still had the tab on the glove box ("Your manuals are in here!").
The price? $12,600.00 I have to get it fixed, but the parts actually aren't that bad (except the healight assembly), and I've got friends who do body work. I figure, after it's all fixed and painted, I'll have about $16K or $17K in it.
I'm so excited I can't sleep - I test drove one at the local dealership (it had 343 miles on it...haha), and just loved it. It's technically going to be my wife's car, but I can see us taking LOTS of road trips in it (since she likes for me to drive when we're together, and being a control freak, so do I...LOL).
I know that, since the car will technically have a salvage title, I get no warranty on it - that's the only part that sucks for me. The TSB's and Recalls still have to be fixed by the dealer, and I'll just have to put aside what I saved doing it this way to cover any unexpected mechanical breakdowns.
All this despite them reading the email and the sale mgr referenced in the email knowing what had been originally promised. I've now decided not only not to buy a Pacifica or any other chrysler product in the future but I'm writing a letter to the dealership, the corporate offices and whoever else I can think of the complain about this treatment. I'm also considering legal action given the apparent deception and failure to honor a written offer. ABsolute worst experience with a car dealershop. No wonder chrysler is losing money and their vehicles are sitting on the lot unsold. Do not buy from Ancira Chrysler Jeep, Hwy 281 North in San Antonio. I mention the location b/c there's another Ancira delearship in San Antonio (IH-10) that has been good to deal with and I don't want people to confuse the two. I've written the internet mgr to update him since he had asked that I let him know how it went after I visitied the dealership and tried out the car. I'm sure he'd apprecite the sales mgr's comments that the internet guys just sit in their offices and don't know what's going on on the lot. What a bunch of losers, don not buy from them.
I've now decided to buy a Honda Accord EX-V6 sedan-at least I know it's reliable, trouble-free, and holds its value. I was willing to forego all that b/c I really liked the Pacifica but after this experience they can consider me another future non-chrysler buyer! Sorry for the long post but this is just unbelieveable....
The kind of experience you had, while unfortunate, is repeated daily at other car maker dealerships across the country. I really like my Pacifica, and I am still trying to imagine how you went from the Pacifica to a Honda Accord. What happened to the Pilot/Odyssey twins? I fail to follow your reasoning here, other than you were so mad you couldn't see straight..............
I mean you don't need another SUV-like vehicle because your wife already has a 4-runner. And you want something small and somewhat quick, like your Accord.
It sounds like you arrived to the Chrysler dealer with prejudice.
They'll probably send an investigator out!!!
Grin.
If you think DC is unresponsive, wait until you have a problem with your Honda!!! Go read the customer service complaints in the various Accord discussions here.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Little things, but they all make the experience more enjoyable.
$449.00 for Ziebart "Overseas Vehicle Protection" (What is this??, how much does this cost you guys back in the states??) $680.00 for U.S. Inland Freight Charge (Again, what does your dealership charge??), $195.00 Stock Storage Charge, $175.00 Customer Delivery Charge (Show Car), and on and on and on for a total of $2880.00 So much for my $3500 rebate!!! What a joke. Please give me an idea of what you pay other than just the price of the vehicle. Thank You
Robert
I'm with you - I'd be shouting it from the rooftops. I sincerely hope it's a single dealership (and I'm sorry this experience has soured you on Chrysler completely). There's an old saying that I always remember when I do business, "If you treat someone well, they will tell 4 people. If you mistreat them, they will tell 10 people." In my experience, the first number only goes up a little when you're treated really well, but the second goes up exponentially when you're treated very badly.
I had a single (very, very) bad experience with J.C. Penny department stores about 8 years ago. I haven't set foot in one, since, and I've asked my wife to not shop there, either (and she usually doesn't, but she wasn't pissed at them as much as I was). I make sure to tell everyone, whenever something regarding the subjects of credit, department stores, or customer service comes up in conversation (like now...haha).
But I must stress, please try to not think bad about the car, the manufacturer, or other dealerships in general, because of the way you were apparently screwed by this one dealership.
L8r
I can certainly understand not wanting to deal with that dealer again. However,the logic of never buying a Chrysler again eludes me. There are good and bad Chrysler dealers, and good and bad Honda dealers. On a different day you may have had a Honda dealer pull the same stunt.
I must say suing someone over car buying negotiations is a new one, but not surprising in our litiginous culture.
If you go to Chrysler site and do a dealer search, you can see the inventory of all 5 star dealers and most of the cars have the sticker available to view so you can find the car you want if you put a little time into it. Then talk directly to that dealer. You may have to drive a bit or you may be lucky and find it nearby.
We are very happy. Hope this helps others.
I would be interested in hearing what you think of the backup sensors once you get them installed. How they look, etc. I have been wanting to get them installed on my Pac, but some of the comments I have heard about them is that they don't look integrated with your back bumper when they are installed after-market. Thanks!
http://mobilevideo4less.com/cameras.html
It seems like the way to go!