2016 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Lease Questions

denverbronkos

kyfdx said:

denverbronkos said:

Hey guys, quick question before I pull the trigger. Want to see what kind of money factor I'd expect. I'm doing a MSD payment + money factor lease.

E63s AMG 2016
MSRP: 103,500
Selling price: Not sure, have to negotiate, probably
Residual (according to cars.com): 48 @ 52,925 (but seems low)
MSD payment: 25k + Trade in value: AT LEAST 5k = 30k+

What should I expect in monthly payment and money factor? Have great credit.

Standard MF and 57% residual for 36/15.

No clue on payment, without selling price.

Wow, it's standard MF even with a 30k down deposit and good credit through first class leasing option?

So according to cars.com the corresponding MF to residual value is 0.0029, that surely can't be it no? Can it be around 0.0019?

kyfdx

denverbronkos said:

kyfdx said:

denverbronkos said:

Hey guys, quick question before I pull the trigger. Want to see what kind of money factor I'd expect. I'm doing a MSD payment + money factor lease.

E63s AMG 2016
MSRP: 103,500
Selling price: Not sure, have to negotiate, probably
Residual (according to cars.com): 48 @ 52,925 (but seems low)
MSD payment: 25k + Trade in value: AT LEAST 5k = 30k+

What should I expect in monthly payment and money factor? Have great credit.

Standard MF and 57% residual for 36/15.

No clue on payment, without selling price.

Wow, it's standard MF even with a 30k down deposit and good credit through first class leasing option?

So according to cars.com the corresponding MF to residual value is 0.0029, that surely can't be it no? Can it be around 0.0019?

We usually see the Standard MF around .0020-.0022.

MSDs can lower the money factor, but I'm not sure by how much.

Something else we see from our members? Cars.com information is useless.

kvincek

Hello Friends,

Is there anyone recently leased a 2016 E350 4MATIC in IL? I would like to get your lease details for my reference.

Thank you,

skirkham

Hello everybody.
Thanks for all the information on this forum. Really helps in the decision making.
I am looking for the residuals and MF for the following:
2016 E350 sport RWD and 2016 E400. Both at 24 months and 10K/year.

Thanks again for this valuable resource.

kvincek

Is it too late to lease 2015 models?

kyfdx

skirkham said:

Hello everybody.
Thanks for all the information on this forum. Really helps in the decision making.
I am looking for the residuals and MF for the following:
2016 E350 sport RWD and 2016 E400. Both at 24 months and 10K/year.

Thanks again for this valuable resource.

E350: .00080 MF and 66% residual. 59% for 36/10
E400: Standard MF and 66% residual. 62% for 36/10

kyfdx

kvincek said:

Is it too late to lease 2015 models?

It's not too late... ask here:
http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/30635/mercedes-benz/e-class/2015-mercedes-benz-e-class-lease-questions#latest

skirkham

kyfdx said:

skirkham said:

Hello everybody.
Thanks for all the information on this forum. Really helps in the decision making.
I am looking for the residuals and MF for the following:
2016 E350 sport RWD and 2016 E400. Both at 24 months and 10K/year.

Thanks again for this valuable resource.

E350: .00080 MF and 66% residual. 59% for 36/10
E400: Standard MF and 66% residual. 62% for 36/10

skirkham

Thank you for all the help!

jackm6

kvincek said:

Hello Friends, Is there anyone recently leased a 2016 E350 4MATIC in IL? I would like to get your lease details for my reference. Thank you,

i just did at motorwerks. 15% off msrp. Make sure no markup on mf and use msd to drop mf even further

atos2012

Hi, please provide numbers for

Mercedes E 250 или 350 new and demo

39/mo 36/mo 10k lease, Los Angeles. Thanks a lot.

donno2011

Looking for E350 sport sedan and E convertible money factor and residual for 36/15k lease in SoCal. Also, curious what others have gotten in terms of discount off MSRP for both models. Thanks for the help!

nycjames

What's the numbers for E350 4 matic 12k miles 36 months?

kyfdx

atos2012 said:

Hi, please provide numbers for

Mercedes E 250 или 350 new and demo

39/mo 36/mo 10k lease, Los Angeles. Thanks a lot.

250: .00102 MF and 59% residual
350: .00080 MF and 59% residual

36/10

kyfdx

donno2011 said:

Looking for E350 sport sedan and E convertible money factor and residual for 36/15k lease in SoCal. Also, curious what others have gotten in terms of discount off MSRP for both models. Thanks for the help!

Sedan: .00080 MF and 56% residual
Convert: .00104 MF and 57% residual

kyfdx

nycjames said:

What's the numbers for E350 4 matic 12k miles 36 months?

.00077 MF and 58% residual

kvincek

Hi Jack,

Is it possible for you to leave a detail of your purchase/lease? I truly appreciate your response.

Vince

jackm6 said:

kvincek said:

Hello Friends,

Is there anyone recently leased a 2016 E350 4MATIC in IL? I would like to get your lease details for my reference.

Thank you,

i just did at motorwerks. 15% off msrp. Make sure no markup on mf and use msd to drop mf even further

mapso1999

Michaell said:

norcaladam said:

Thanks to everyone on the forum for your input---it's been very helpful. Here's what I wound up agreeing to for a 2016 E350 4matic sedan in Northern Cal:


MSRP: $65,290
Selling price: $54,874 (net of $3,500 dealer/fleet cash)
Residual: 59%
Term/mileage: 36 months/10k
Drive-off: $7,156.35 including 10 security deposits totaling $6,000, first month payment and DMV fees
Monthly payment including sales tax: $563.80
Money Factor: 0.00037 (discounted for multiple security deposits)

Nice deal! Enjoy the new E-class

Just curious, is paying 10 security deposits like paying the first 10 payments up front?

Michaell

mapso1999 said:

Michaell said:

norcaladam said:

Thanks to everyone on the forum for your input---it's been very helpful. Here's what I wound up agreeing to for a 2016 E350 4matic sedan in Northern Cal:


MSRP: $65,290
Selling price: $54,874 (net of $3,500 dealer/fleet cash)
Residual: 59%
Term/mileage: 36 months/10k
Drive-off: $7,156.35 including 10 security deposits totaling $6,000, first month payment and DMV fees
Monthly payment including sales tax: $563.80
Money Factor: 0.00037 (discounted for multiple security deposits)

Nice deal! Enjoy the new E-class

Just curious, is paying 10 security deposits like paying the first 10 payments up front?

The size of the security deposit is the monthly payment rounded up to the next highest $50, so the amount of money is comparable. But, the idea is that you get a lower MF with those deposits, and the deposit money is returned to you at the end of the lease.

ankurchopra87

I am looking to lease a 2016 E350 4MATIC and have a couple of questions. Can multiple security deposits be applied to reduce the .00077 MF. I believe its is a reduction of .00007 per security deposit with a maximum of 10. So can I end up with a money factor of just 0.00007 after applying 10 security deposits? Also, does autopay reduce the MF by .00010? Can if be used along with MSD ?

madmax700

Hello. I currently have a 2014 E350 that is set to go back 3/16. Do they currently have any 27 month programs?

Looing for the residual on a 2016 E350

24 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles
27 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles
36 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles

The money factor on a One-pay?

Mercedes Current Bank fee?

Any incentives- returning lease customer etc..

Thanks so much for your help!

Michaell

madmax700 said:

Hello. I currently have a 2014 E350 that is set to go back 3/16. Do they currently have any 27 month programs?

Looing for the residual on a 2016 E350

24 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles
27 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles
36 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles

The money factor on a One-pay?

Mercedes Current Bank fee?

Any incentives- returning lease customer etc..

Thanks so much for your help!

RWD or 4Matic?

madmax700

4matic

Michaell

madmax700 said:

Hello. I currently have a 2014 E350 that is set to go back 3/16. Do they currently have any 27 month programs?

Looing for the residual on a 2016 E350

24 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles
27 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles
36 month- 7,500 & 10,000 miles

The money factor on a One-pay?

Mercedes Current Bank fee?

Any incentives- returning lease customer etc..

Thanks so much for your help!

madmax700 said:

4matic

.00077 MF

24/10 - 65%
36/10 - 59%

No 27 month program from MB

Add 1% for 7500 miles.

Bank fee is $795

ankurchopra87

Micheall .. can you help me with my question from yesterday (repeated below).. Thanks!

I am looking to lease a 2016 E350 4MATIC and have a couple of questions. Can multiple security deposits be applied to reduce the .00077 MF. I believe its is a reduction of .00007 per security deposit with a maximum of 10. So can I end up with a money factor of just 0.00007 after applying 10 security deposits? Also, does autopay reduce the MF by .00010? Can if be used along with MSD ?

Michaell

ankurchopra87 said:

Micheall .. can you help me with my question from yesterday (repeated below).. Thanks!

I am looking to lease a 2016 E350 4MATIC and have a couple of questions. Can multiple security deposits be applied to reduce the .00077 MF. I believe its is a reduction of .00007 per security deposit with a maximum of 10. So can I end up with a money factor of just 0.00007 after applying 10 security deposits? Also, does autopay reduce the MF by .00010? Can if be used along with MSD ?

The information about MSDs for MB seems to be spotty and inconsistent.

We've always believed that MSDs could be used for MB leases only when the standard MF of .00200-.00220 was in play.

We've had some folks post on these boards that they have been able to apply MSDs to supported money factors, like the .00077 for the E350. But, we have no official knowledge whether that's true or simply a dealer choice.

You may have to check with your dealer to see what their position is on the matter.

Autopay is different than MSD and will reduce the MF by .00010

ankurchopra87

Michaell said:

ankurchopra87 said:

Micheall .. can you help me with my question from yesterday (repeated below).. Thanks!

I am looking to lease a 2016 E350 4MATIC and have a couple of questions. Can multiple security deposits be applied to reduce the .00077 MF. I believe its is a reduction of .00007 per security deposit with a maximum of 10. So can I end up with a money factor of just 0.00007 after applying 10 security deposits? Also, does autopay reduce the MF by .00010? Can if be used along with MSD ?

The information about MSDs for MB seems to be spotty and inconsistent.

We've always believed that MSDs could be used for MB leases only when the standard MF of .00200-.00220 was in play.

We've had some folks post on these boards that they have been able to apply MSDs to supported money factors, like the .00077 for the E350. But, we have no official knowledge whether that's true or simply a dealer choice.

You may have to check with your dealer to see what their position is on the matter.

Autopay is different than MSD and will reduce the MF by .00010

Thank you Micheall! So autopay can be used with the supported money factor?

Michaell

ankurchopra87 said:

Michaell said:

ankurchopra87 said:

Micheall .. can you help me with my question from yesterday (repeated below).. Thanks!

I am looking to lease a 2016 E350 4MATIC and have a couple of questions. Can multiple security deposits be applied to reduce the .00077 MF. I believe its is a reduction of .00007 per security deposit with a maximum of 10. So can I end up with a money factor of just 0.00007 after applying 10 security deposits? Also, does autopay reduce the MF by .00010? Can if be used along with MSD ?

The information about MSDs for MB seems to be spotty and inconsistent.

We've always believed that MSDs could be used for MB leases only when the standard MF of .00200-.00220 was in play.

We've had some folks post on these boards that they have been able to apply MSDs to supported money factors, like the .00077 for the E350. But, we have no official knowledge whether that's true or simply a dealer choice.

You may have to check with your dealer to see what their position is on the matter.

Autopay is different than MSD and will reduce the MF by .00010

Thank you Micheall! So autopay can be used with the supported money factor?

Correct -- no restrictions with autopay.

madmax700

Thanks! Any incentives for the 2016 E350?

Michaell

madmax700 said:

Thanks! Any incentives for the 2016 E350?

None that we're aware of.

ankurchopra87

Thank you Micheall!

madmax700

One dealer was giving me the money factor of .00050 on the 2016 E350 one-pay

ankurchopra87

madmax700 said:

Thanks! Any incentives for the 2016 E350?

I leased a 2016 E350 4Matic yesterday.

The following "incentives" are available

1) $2250 dealer cash
2) 5 Payment lease pull ahead if you are currently leasing a Mercedes-Benz
3) Multiple Security Deposits (up-to 10) are allowed even when using the supported money factor (which is 0.00077). Each security deposit will reduce the money factor by 0.00007.

Additionally, there is a sizable holdback for the dealer on this vehicle. I think its between 4-5%

After some heated haggling, I ended up with the following...

MSRP: $62650
Discount: $7600
Sale Price: $55050
Doc fee: $299
Title/Tags: ~$325
Tax rate: 6% (applied to capitalized cost)
Acquisition Fee: $795
Residual: 59% (36/10)
Security Deposit: $6500 ($650 x 10)
Money Factor: 0.00007 (Applied 10 Security deposits)
Monthly Payment: ~ $639.98 + $10 (2-yr maintenance residualized) = $649.98

According to the dealer, he will make about $1300 + doc fee + w/e he gets out of the maintenance after receiving the holdback... not sure if I totally believe that..

Pretty happy overall, I've always found it difficult to deal with MB dealers ... BMW is much easier.

Michaell

ankurchopra87 said:

madmax700 said:

Thanks! Any incentives for the 2016 E350?

I leased a 2016 E350 4Matic yesterday.

The following "incentives" are available

1) $2250 dealer cash
2) 5 Payment lease pull ahead if you are currently leasing a Mercedes-Benz
3) Multiple Security Deposits (up-to 10) are allowed even when using the supported money factor (which is 0.00077). Each security deposit will reduce the money factor by 0.00007.

Additionally, there is a sizable holdback for the dealer on this vehicle. I think its between 4-5%

After some heated haggling, I ended up with the following...

MSRP: $62650
Discount: $7600
Sale Price: $55050
Doc fee: $299
Title/Tags: ~$325
Tax rate: 6% (applied to capitalized cost)
Acquisition Fee: $795
Residual: 59% (36/10)
Security Deposit: $6500 ($650 x 10)
Money Factor: 0.00007 (Applied 10 Security deposits)
Monthly Payment: ~ $639.98 + $10 (2-yr maintenance residualized) = $649.98

According to the dealer, he will make about $1300 + doc fee + w/e he gets out of the maintenance after receiving the holdback... not sure if I totally believe that..

Pretty happy overall, I've always found it difficult to deal with MB dealers ... BMW is much easier.

Solid deal ... good on ya for sticking to your guns, price wise.

Appreciate the follow up, and enjoy the new E-class!

And, I wouldn't worry about what the dealer will or won't make. They wouldn't have agreed to the deal if they were losing money (or not making enough).

kvincek

Hello Admin,

I found a E350 4MATIC Luxury Sedan on a dealers website for $56525. I did a True Value Estimate on Edmunds and it came out to $50153. The vehicle has zero options (Which I really don't care about - Matter of fact it is perfect). My company offers a fleet cash of $2250.00. So I have 3 questions:

1) Do you think I should be able to negotiate a purchase price of $48000 without much issues?

2) What is the RV & MF on this vehicle for 36 Months with 12K miles? My credit score is just above 700.

3) I am planning to lease it, so do I have to pay the $925 transportation charge or just the acquisition fee of $795?

Thank you for answering these questions.

Michaell

kvincek said:

Hello Admin,

I found a E350 4MATIC Luxury Sedan on a dealers website for $56525. I did a True Value Estimate on Edmunds and it came out to $50153. The vehicle has zero options (Which I really don't care about - Matter of fact it is perfect). My company offers a fleet cash of $2250.00. So I have 3 questions:

1) Do you think I should be able to negotiate a purchase price of $48000 without much issues?

2) What is the RV & MF on this vehicle for 36 Months with 12K miles? My credit score is just above 700.

3) I am planning to lease it, so do I have to pay the $925 transportation charge or just the acquisition fee of $795?

Thank you for answering these questions.

1. It can't hurt to try.
2. .00077 MF and 58% for 36/12
3. You are responsible for both charges

jackster6

I live in Seattle and ordered a 2016 Mercedes E Class Wagon with $1000 down and my trade in of $3,000 I am being quoted a money factor of .00248 and a RV of 61% and monthly payment of $1015. Does that sound like a good deal? The sticker was $76,905 (loaded) and I negotiated down to $71,800. I was told by Michaell in the Audi forum (I ordered a Q7 too in case I did not like he MB) that the standard MF for MB is .00200-.00220. Thanks!

Michaell

jackster6 said:

I live in Seattle and ordered a 2016 Mercedes E Class Wagon with $1000 down and my trade in of $3,000 I am being quoted a money factor of .00248 and a RV of 61% and monthly payment of $1015. Does that sound like a good deal? The sticker was $76,905 (loaded) and I negotiated down to $71,800. I was told by Michaell in the Audi forum (I ordered a Q7 too in case I did not like he MB) that the standard MF for MB is .00200-.00220. Thanks!

We don't know the actual standard MF for MB but think it's in the .00200 to .00220 range. Dealer looks like they have marked it up.

Using your prices, and a MF of .00210, I get a payment of $941/mo plus tax. Depending on the tax rate, $1015/mo seems about right.

jwb3rx

Hello, do you have any updated rates for March?

E350 4matic 36/10k and 24/10k? Also, any 27 mo options?


Thanks,

JB

Michaell

jwb3rx said:

Hello, do you have any updated rates for March?

E350 4matic 36/10k and 24/10k? Also, any 27 mo options?


Thanks,

JB

March numbers won't be available until tomorrow at the earliest.

jwb3rx

Michaell said:

jwb3rx said:

Hello, do you have any updated rates for March?

E350 4matic 36/10k and 24/10k? Also, any 27 mo options?


Thanks,

JB

March numbers won't be available until tomorrow at the earliest.

Ok, thanks Mike...I will check back.

jwb3rx

Hi Mike,

Any update on March #'s?

E350 4matic 36/10k and 24/10k? Also, any 27 mo options?

Michaell

jwb3rx said:

Hi Mike,

Any update on March #'s?

E350 4matic 36/10k and 24/10k? Also, any 27 mo options?

.00039 MF
24/10 - 63%
36/10 - 57%

No 27 month program

jwb3rx

Thanks Mike...residual dropped 2 points but MF went down. Just about a wash from last month. Thanks again!

Michaell

jwb3rx said:

Thanks Mike...residual dropped 2 points but MF went down. Just about a wash from last month. Thanks again!

That's how it usually works. Keep us posted on your shopping.

jwb3rx

One last question on the E class sedan, can you give me the rates on the E400 4matic.

24mo/10k and 36mo/10k.


Thanks!

Michaell

jwb3rx said:

One last question on the E class sedan, can you give me the rates on the E400 4matic.

24mo/10k and 36mo/10k.


Thanks!

.00148 and 65% / 61%

jwb3rx

thanks!

leaselooker1

Hello,

I'm looking at a 2016 e400 coupe, or e350 sedan, RWD

Terms:
30 or 36 months
10,000 miles per year
$1400 total drive off
MSRP is $65,500

I'm trying to get about $12,000 off msrp and possibly service included in Northern California.

Can you help me understand what the, residuals for either car and what the money factor at buy rate is? Also, what a payment might look like? Thanks a lot from your help.

Michaell

leaselooker1 said:

Hello,

I'm looking at a 2016 e400 coupe, or e350 sedan, RWD

Terms:
30 or 36 months
10,000 miles per year
$1400 total drive off
MSRP is $65,500

I'm trying to get about $12,000 off msrp and possibly service included in Northern California.

Can you help me understand what the, residuals for either car and what the money factor at buy rate is? Also, what a payment might look like? Thanks a lot from your help.

E350 - .00043 and 60%/57%
E400C - .00109 and 62%/60%

Is the MSRP and expected selling price the same for both models?