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2016 BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

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  • _carrera_carrera Member Posts: 25
    Hi there,
    How is the 24mo./10k mi. looking for the:
    - 528i
    - 528i xDrive
    - 535d?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    _carrera said:

    Hi there,
    How is the 24mo./10k mi. looking for the:
    - 528i
    - 528i xDrive
    - 535d?

    Thanks!

    .00138 and 70% for all three

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  • _carrera_carrera Member Posts: 25
    Michaell said:

    _carrera said:

    Hi there,
    How is the 24mo./10k mi. looking for the:
    - 528i
    - 528i xDrive
    - 535d?

    Thanks!

    .00138 and 70% for all three
    Thanks, is it the same for the:

    535d xDrive
    535i
    535i xDrive

    also?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    _carrera said:

    Michaell said:

    _carrera said:

    Hi there,
    How is the 24mo./10k mi. looking for the:
    - 528i
    - 528i xDrive
    - 535d?

    Thanks!

    .00138 and 70% for all three
    Thanks, is it the same for the:

    535d xDrive
    535i
    535i xDrive

    also?
    Yes, all 5-series have the same numbers.

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  • marlattamarlatta Member Posts: 1
    I have a lease deal working on 528......MSRP 56,745 Gross Cap 49,935 10/36 months $656 tax included 1406.47 drive away. I have over 800 credit score and MF.00178 and 63% as residual. Shouldn't I be able to negotiate lower MF. Sales guy says no......what are your thought on this deal?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    marlatta said:

    I have a lease deal working on 528......MSRP 56,745 Gross Cap 49,935 10/36 months $656 tax included 1406.47 drive away. I have over 800 credit score and MF.00178 and 63% as residual. Shouldn't I be able to negotiate lower MF. Sales guy says no......what are your thought on this deal?

    Sales guy is full of it.

    Politely tell them that you won't sign a deal with a marked up MF; they know what the base rate is.

    And, reach out to other BMW dealers - only takes one to make a deal on your terms.

    BTW, using your prices, I get $512/mo plus tax using the base MF and $547/mo with the marked up one. Not sure how the dealer is getting $656/mo - double check the adjusted cap cost.

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  • heat0203heat0203 Member Posts: 4
    MF and RV for 528 and 535 36 months/15k miles?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,018
    heat0203 said:

    MF and RV for 528 and 535 36 months/15k miles?

    .00138 MF and 61% residual, either model.

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  • slolankanslolankan Member Posts: 263
    Hello... Do you have the lease numbers MF/RV for a 2016 550 24mo/36mo 10k/12k? thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,018
    slolankan said:

    Hello... Do you have the lease numbers MF/RV for a 2016 550 24mo/36mo 10k/12k? thanks!

    .00138 MF and 63% residual for 36 mo, 12K/yr.

    Add 6% for 24 months

    Add 1% for 10K/yr

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  • slolankanslolankan Member Posts: 263
    kyfdx said:

    slolankan said:

    Hello... Do you have the lease numbers MF/RV for a 2016 550 24mo/36mo 10k/12k? thanks!

    .00138 MF and 63% residual for 36 mo, 12K/yr.

    Add 6% for 24 months

    Add 1% for 10K/yr
    Thanks!
  • my2016bmwmy2016bmw Member Posts: 1
    Got following lease quote from a BMW dealer in NJ for 2016 528i xDrive for 10K miles/year for 36 months.

    - MSRP $56,195 (Base Price: 52,500; Dark Graphite Color: 550; Power tailgate: 500; Rear View Camera: $400; Heated Front Seat: 500; Park Distance: 750; Destination Fee: 995)
    - Residual %: 64%
    - MF: 0.00138
    - Discount: $4,704.88
    - Selling Price: $51,490.12
    - Monthly payment: $551.95
    - NJ Tax = 7%
    - Drive off payment: $3,878.15 (First payment: 551.95; Upfront Sales Tax: 1390.91; Acq Fee: 925; Doc Fee: 397.50; DMV Fee: 314.45; Supp. Title Fee: 205.96; Tax on Fees: 92.58)

    Is it a good deal? How much should I push them to bring down? I would like to bring them down to $47K selling price but would like to get feedback from this group if it is practical based on the options that I mentioned above. Is there anything that can be brought down in the drive off cost?

    Appreciate your response and feedback.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,018
    my2016bmw said:

    Got following lease quote from a BMW dealer in NJ for 2016 528i xDrive for 10K miles/year for 36 months.

    - MSRP $56,195 (Base Price: 52,500; Dark Graphite Color: 550; Power tailgate: 500; Rear View Camera: $400; Heated Front Seat: 500; Park Distance: 750; Destination Fee: 995)
    - Residual %: 64%
    - MF: 0.00138
    - Discount: $4,704.88
    - Selling Price: $51,490.12
    - Monthly payment: $551.95
    - NJ Tax = 7%
    - Drive off payment: $3,878.15 (First payment: 551.95; Upfront Sales Tax: 1390.91; Acq Fee: 925; Doc Fee: 397.50; DMV Fee: 314.45; Supp. Title Fee: 205.96; Tax on Fees: 92.58)

    Is it a good deal? How much should I push them to bring down? I would like to bring them down to $47K selling price but would like to get feedback from this group if it is practical based on the options that I mentioned above. Is there anything that can be brought down in the drive off cost?

    Appreciate your response and feedback.

    The numbers are correct. The only padding I see is that Doc fee.

    The discount from MSRP is 8.3%. Not sure how you'll get them to double that discount.

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  • lexrjlexrj Member Posts: 27
    edited May 2016
    A broker offered me $1300 down $561mo (taxes incl.) 3yrs/15K for a new 528i 2016 55K msrp. No additional fees btw.
    He wouldn't disclose any other numbers but it looks like a pretty good deal to me, what do you guys think?
    I'm in SoCal btw.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    lexrj said:

    A broker offered me $1300 down $561mo (taxes incl.) 3yrs/15K for a new 528i 2016 55K msrp. No additional fees btw.
    He wouldn't disclose any other numbers but it looks like a pretty good deal to me, what do you guys think?
    I'm in SoCal btw.

    Without knowing the selling price or adjusted cap cost, it's hard to evaluate the strength of that offer.

    And, how much of a fee is this 'broker' adding on to the deal?

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  • lexrjlexrj Member Posts: 27
    Michaell said:

    lexrj said:

    A broker offered me $1300 down $561mo (taxes incl.) 3yrs/15K for a new 528i 2016 55K msrp. No additional fees btw.
    He wouldn't disclose any other numbers but it looks like a pretty good deal to me, what do you guys think?
    I'm in SoCal btw.

    Without knowing the selling price or adjusted cap cost, it's hard to evaluate the strength of that offer.

    And, how much of a fee is this 'broker' adding on to the deal?
    If I work the number backwards and assume MF of .00125 cap cost comes down to $49500, that's 10% of MSRP, isn't that pretty good or can I push for more?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    lexrj said:

    Michaell said:

    lexrj said:

    A broker offered me $1300 down $561mo (taxes incl.) 3yrs/15K for a new 528i 2016 55K msrp. No additional fees btw.
    He wouldn't disclose any other numbers but it looks like a pretty good deal to me, what do you guys think?
    I'm in SoCal btw.

    Without knowing the selling price or adjusted cap cost, it's hard to evaluate the strength of that offer.

    And, how much of a fee is this 'broker' adding on to the deal?
    If I work the number backwards and assume MF of .00125 cap cost comes down to $49500, that's 10% of MSRP, isn't that pretty good or can I push for more?
    MF is .00138 this month.

    But, anything over 7% is a good discount.

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  • lexrjlexrj Member Posts: 27
    Michaell said:

    lexrj said:

    Michaell said:

    lexrj said:

    A broker offered me $1300 down $561mo (taxes incl.) 3yrs/15K for a new 528i 2016 55K msrp. No additional fees btw.
    He wouldn't disclose any other numbers but it looks like a pretty good deal to me, what do you guys think?
    I'm in SoCal btw.

    Without knowing the selling price or adjusted cap cost, it's hard to evaluate the strength of that offer.

    And, how much of a fee is this 'broker' adding on to the deal?
    If I work the number backwards and assume MF of .00125 cap cost comes down to $49500, that's 10% of MSRP, isn't that pretty good or can I push for more?
    MF is .00138 this month.

    But, anything over 7% is a good discount.
    I'm assuming fleet discount, isn't that .00125 ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    lexrj said:

    Michaell said:

    lexrj said:

    Michaell said:

    lexrj said:

    A broker offered me $1300 down $561mo (taxes incl.) 3yrs/15K for a new 528i 2016 55K msrp. No additional fees btw.
    He wouldn't disclose any other numbers but it looks like a pretty good deal to me, what do you guys think?
    I'm in SoCal btw.

    Without knowing the selling price or adjusted cap cost, it's hard to evaluate the strength of that offer.

    And, how much of a fee is this 'broker' adding on to the deal?
    If I work the number backwards and assume MF of .00125 cap cost comes down to $49500, that's 10% of MSRP, isn't that pretty good or can I push for more?
    MF is .00138 this month.

    But, anything over 7% is a good discount.
    I'm assuming fleet discount, isn't that .00125 ?
    I don't have that information.

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  • jagu1jagu1 Member Posts: 5
    Hello,
    What is the money factor and residual for 2016 BMW 550i for 24/12k and 36/12k. Also, What's the residual for 15k miles on both terms
    Any incentives in them?

    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    jagu1 said:

    Hello,
    What is the money factor and residual for 2016 BMW 550i for 24/12k and 36/12k. Also, What's the residual for 15k miles on both terms
    Any incentives in them?

    Thank you.

    .00138 and 67% (24/15) or 61% (36/15). Add 2% for 12K. No incentives.

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  • jagu1jagu1 Member Posts: 5
    Thank you Michaell
  • ketan02ketan02 Member Posts: 34
    A local dealer is offering me a 2yr lease (10,000 miles per year) on a 2016 528i Sedan with rear view camera, heated front seats, parking distance control, black kidney grilles, sirius radio and wheels locks with a MSRP, including destination charge, of $53,765. He's says the sale price is $45,000 and the monthly payment is $300 plus tax. Total Drive off is $4,999, which includes first month payment of $323, license fee $395, tire fee $7, AVRS $29, Cap Reduction Tax $351, and cash cap reduction of $3,895. Is this a good deal? This will be my first lease and I'd appreciate advise. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,018
    ketan02 said:

    A local dealer is offering me a 2yr lease (10,000 miles per year) on a 2016 528i Sedan with rear view camera, heated front seats, parking distance control, black kidney grilles, sirius radio and wheels locks with a MSRP, including destination charge, of $53,765. He's says the sale price is $45,000 and the monthly payment is $300 plus tax. Total Drive off is $4,999, which includes first month payment of $323, license fee $395, tire fee $7, AVRS $29, Cap Reduction Tax $351, and cash cap reduction of $3,895. Is this a good deal? This will be my first lease and I'd appreciate advise. Thank you.

    It's a fair deal. You are putting up $4250 in CCR+tax. If you divide that by your 24 month term, your actual monthly payment is about $500/mo.

    That big CCR is disguising the true cost. 36 month residuals are just 6% less, and would result in a lower overall monthly cost.

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  • bestornothingbestornothing Member Posts: 13
    - What is the MF and RV for a 2016 528i 36/15k?
    - What % should I aim off the MSRP?
    - Is the E350 Sport a better model for leasing in comparison?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239

    - What is the MF and RV for a 2016 528i 36/15k?
    - What % should I aim off the MSRP?
    - Is the E350 Sport a better model for leasing in comparison?

    .00138 and 61%

    7% off MSRP is a good target.

    I would lease the car I like better, not the one with the better deal.

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  • klnmcmgklnmcmg Member Posts: 113
    MF and RV for 528i, 36/15, 36/12 in NC. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    klnmcmg said:
    MF and RV for 528i, 36/15, 36/12 in NC. 
    .00138 and 61% for 36/15. Add 2% for 12k

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  • slolankanslolankan Member Posts: 263
    Can you please provide an update of the MF/RV for 2015 and 2016 BMW 5 Series (550) for June ? Looking for 24/36 mo @ 10k/12k miles ?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    slolankan said:

    Can you please provide an update of the MF/RV for 2015 and 2016 BMW 5 Series (550) for June ? Looking for 24/36 mo @ 10k/12k miles ?

    Thanks!

    .00138 and 69% (24/12) or 63% (36/12). Add 1% for 10K

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  • slolankanslolankan Member Posts: 263
    Same for 2015 as well?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    slolankan said:

    Same for 2015 as well?

    Uh, no. :sunglasses:

    Same MF, but subtract 8% from the residual.

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  • brian6743brian6743 Member Posts: 29
    What's the MF and residual for a 550 with a 3 yr/36K lease?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    brian6743 said:

    What's the MF and residual for a 550 with a 3 yr/36K lease?

    .00138 and 63%

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  • techno077techno077 Member Posts: 21
    Hi can i get the numbers for 10k 12k for june?
  • techno077techno077 Member Posts: 21
    Are there any incentives this month?
    loyalty credit?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    techno077 said:

    Hi can i get the numbers for 10k 12k for june?

    techno077 said:

    Are there any incentives this month?
    loyalty credit?

    What lease term?

    .00138 MF

    No incentives for leasing that we see.

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  • techno077techno077 Member Posts: 21
    36 mos
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,018
    techno077 said:

    36 mos

    63% for 36/12. Add 1% for 10K/yr

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  • x021627x021627 Member Posts: 152
    apologies for originally posting in wrong forum:

    It's a 2016 535xi

    Yes. Here's a correction as I found a mistake (right) CA made :smile:

    MSRP $64,175
    Selling $56,123
    Loyalty $1000
    Residual 69% (dealer confirmed and I got from another source)
    OOP 1,135 tax+ Lease Acq free $925+ DMW registration fee$229 +supplemental title $222 + 1st payment $589)= $3100

    Thanks, BK
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    x021627 said:

    apologies for originally posting in wrong forum:

    It's a 2016 535xi

    Yes. Here's a correction as I found a mistake (right) CA made :smile:

    MSRP $64,175
    Selling $56,123
    Loyalty $1000
    Residual 69% (dealer confirmed and I got from another source)
    OOP 1,135 tax+ Lease Acq free $925+ DMW registration fee$229 +supplemental title $222 + 1st payment $589)= $3100

    Thanks, BK

    I confirm the 69% residual for 24/12; .00138 MF.

    With your MSRP and selling prices, I get $632/mo; subtracting out the $1000 loyalty, the payment drops to .... ta da! ... $589/mo.

    Looks like a solid deal; only way to improve on it is to get a lower price or use MSDs to buy down the MF.

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  • x021627x021627 Member Posts: 152
    Michaell said:

    x021627 said:

    apologies for originally posting in wrong forum:

    It's a 2016 535xi

    Yes. Here's a correction as I found a mistake (right) CA made :smile:

    MSRP $64,175
    Selling $56,123
    Loyalty $1000
    Residual 69% (dealer confirmed and I got from another source)
    OOP 1,135 tax+ Lease Acq free $925+ DMW registration fee$229 +supplemental title $222 + 1st payment $589)= $3100

    Thanks, BK

    I confirm the 69% residual for 24/12; .00138 MF.

    With your MSRP and selling prices, I get $632/mo; subtracting out the $1000 loyalty, the payment drops to .... ta da! ... $589/mo.

    Looks like a solid deal; only way to improve on it is to get a lower price or use MSDs to buy down the MF.
    Thanks for confirming. I just wanted to confirm. Its my usual dealer and no one seems to competitive as all the quotes I have gotten are for $750 or so for a 2 year.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,018
    x021627 said:

    apologies for originally posting in wrong forum:

    It's a 2016 535xi

    Yes. Here's a correction as I found a mistake (right) CA made :smile:

    MSRP $64,175
    Selling $56,123
    Loyalty $1000
    Residual 69% (dealer confirmed and I got from another source)
    OOP 1,135 tax+ Lease Acq free $925+ DMW registration fee$229 +supplemental title $222 + 1st payment $589)= $3100

    Thanks, BK

    Now it adds up.. Nice deal.

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  • jmill718jmill718 Member Posts: 3
    What's the MF and residual for a 2016 535 with a 3 yr/10 and 12K lease for June?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    jmill718 said:

    What's the MF and residual for a 2016 535 with a 3 yr/10 and 12K lease for June?

    .00138 and 64% or 63%

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  • jmill718jmill718 Member Posts: 3
    How much can I negotiate this down to get a great deal on this 2016 535xi (Cold weather, Drivers Assistance package, Dynamic Handling package, M Sport, premium Package, multi contour seats). State NY

    36mos/10K miles

    MSRP $74,570
    Selling $69,000
    Residual 65%
    MF 0.0138


  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,018
    jmill718 said:

    How much can I negotiate this down to get a great deal on this 2016 535xi (Cold weather, Drivers Assistance package, Dynamic Handling package, M Sport, premium Package, multi contour seats). State NY

    36mos/10K miles

    MSRP $74,570
    Selling $69,000
    Residual 65%
    MF 0.0138


    The residual is 64%, not 65%.

    With those terms (64%), the payment is $752/mo.+tax, assuming all other costs are paid upfront.

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  • jmill718jmill718 Member Posts: 3
    what should i aim to pay for this car with these specs?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,239
    jmill718 said:

    what should i aim to pay for this car with these specs?

    For BMW, anything more than 7% off sticker is a good price.

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  • bmulberrybmulberry Member Posts: 29
    Can you provide residual and MF for 36/15 for 2016 535 xdrive and 550 xdrive. Thanks.
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