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  • dd086703dd086703 Member Posts: 3
    Curious if i'm a dummy.
    2016 GTI Autobahn PP Manual
    36/12
    .00185 MF
    60% RV

    $33,845 MSRP
    $29,550 Base Cap Cost
    $625 Acq Fee
    $599 Dealer Fee
    $1,350 - Tax, tags
    -------
    $30,274 Net Cap Cost (minus tax)

    With an upfront payment of $2,500, tax, fees, first months pymt minus $500 President.
    They offered $363.

    I'm getting $392.14 including taxes with nothing down.
    Walked away because it seemed high.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    dd086703 said:
    Curious if i'm a dummy. 2016 GTI Autobahn PP Manual 36/12 .00185 MF 60% RV $33,845 MSRP $29,550 Base Cap Cost $625 Acq Fee $599 Dealer Fee $1,350 - Tax, tags ------- $30,274 Net Cap Cost (minus tax) With an upfront payment of $2,500, tax, fees, first months pymt minus $500 President. They offered $363. I'm getting $392.14 including taxes with nothing down. Walked away because it seemed high.
    Base MF is .00125, so that is marked up. 

    You were right to walk. 

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  • leescottleescott Member Posts: 180
    RV and MF updated for March yet? 36 months/10K miles. Also, I know there is $1000 bonus cash, but is there any other loyalty, conquest or other cash? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    leescott said:

    RV and MF updated for March yet? 36 months/10K miles. Also, I know there is $1000 bonus cash, but is there any other loyalty, conquest or other cash? Thanks!

    .00125 and 60%. $250 lease cash.

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  • leescottleescott Member Posts: 180
    Thank you. 
  • user2016user2016 Member Posts: 23
    Michaell, does this mean that there is 250 lease cash on top of the 1000 bonus cash? Is owner loyalty active currently as well?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,955
    user2016 said:

    Michaell, does this mean that there is 250 lease cash on top of the 1000 bonus cash? Is owner loyalty active currently as well?

    Yes, the $250 is additional, this month.

    No info on loyalty

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  • user2016user2016 Member Posts: 23
    Thanks!
  • leescottleescott Member Posts: 180
    Michaell said:
    RV and MF updated for March yet? 36 months/10K miles. Also, I know there is $1000 bonus cash, but is there any other loyalty, conquest or other cash? Thanks!
    .00125 and 60%. $250 lease cash.
    Thank you. 
  • yongwonyongwon Member Posts: 3
    GTI SE DSG w/lighting
    msrp: $31,540

    36 months
    10k per year
    $305 per month
    $2800 due at signing (includes all fees, tax and first month payment)

    good?

  • pseichlerpseichler Member Posts: 28
    Looking for MF and residual on 36/10k and 36/12k for a 2016 GTI Autobahn Manual in Wisconsin. Also would be curious to know if trim is changing the residuals. Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    pseichler said:

    Looking for MF and residual on 36/10k and 36/12k for a 2016 GTI Autobahn Manual in Wisconsin. Also would be curious to know if trim is changing the residuals. Thanks in advance!

    .00125 and 59% for 36/12. $250 lease cash.

    Add 1% for 10K

    No difference on trim level or options.

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  • 3mk7gtis3mk7gtis Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2016
    Thank you everyone for your help. Here are the details of my new lease.

    2016 Carbon Steel Gray GTI SE 4 door automatic with lighting package
    MSRP $31,860
    Selling Price $29,038.18(discounted $2,821.82)
    Total Drive Off $1,000
    Monthly Payment $359.47 ($329.79 + $29.68 9 % tax )
    Residual Value $18,797.40 (59%)
    36 months, 12,000 miles per year
    Money factor .00125

    Capitalized Cost Reduction$1,123.47
    First Month Payment $359.47
    Registration $200.00
    Title fees $91.00
    Doc Fee $80.00
    Tire fee $8.75
    Electronic fee $29.00
    Tax on Cap reduction $101.11
    Doc fee tax $7.20
    Total: $2,000.00

    Down payment $1,000
    Rebate applied $1,000

    Interesting that I was not charged an acquisition fee and a very low($80) documentation fee.
    The car was discounted $2,821.82 off of MSRP plus I received a $1,000 rebate.

    I'm located in southern California and there seems to be quite an inventory of GTIs so I'm sure dealers are eager to deal. Very happy with my deal.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,955
    3mk7gtis said:

    Thank you everyone for your help. Here are the details of my new lease.

    2016 Carbon Steel Gray GTI SE 4 door automatic with lighting package
    MSRP $31,860
    Selling Price $29,038.18(discounted $2,821.82)
    Total Drive Off $1,000
    Monthly Payment $359.47 ($329.79 + $29.68 9 % tax )
    Residual Value $18,797.40 (59%)
    36 months, 12,000 miles per year
    Money factor .00125

    Capitalized Cost Reduction$1,123.47
    First Month Payment $359.47
    Registration $200.00
    Title fees $91.00
    Doc Fee $80.00
    Tire fee $8.75
    Electronic fee $29.00
    Tax on Cap reduction $101.11
    Doc fee tax $7.20
    Total: $2,000.00

    Down payment $1,000
    Rebate applied $1,000

    Interesting that I was not charged an acquisition fee and a very low($80) documentation fee.
    The car was discounted $2,821.82 off of MSRP plus I received a $1,000 rebate.

    I'm located in southern California and there seems to be quite an inventory of GTIs so I'm sure dealers are eager to deal. Very happy with my deal.

    Doc fees are restricted to $80 in CA, by statute.

    I think you did pay the acquisition fee. You notice they didn't give you the adjusted CAP cost?
    If we subtract your CCR from the selling price, then the payment would be about $312/mo.+tax. Add in the $625 acquisition fee and the payment is $329/mo.+tax. (which matches).

    Looks like a good deal, in any case.

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  • 3mk7gtis3mk7gtis Member Posts: 3
    You are correct. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
  • Vito DiGiorgioVito DiGiorgio Member Posts: 88
    Just received a purchase order but I have a few things that are bothering me.

    1. Freight/destination 820$ but isnt that included in the MSRP or sticker price? Pretty sure I just saw one this past weekend where that was included.

    2.Admin fee of 599$??? Seems high

    3. Tax 1112.34...if my math is correct he is basing this tax off 441/month. but is quoting me 454 all in with tax so there is something wrong there.

    4. tags and license- 975$ for NJ. This cannot be right. According DMV, title is 80$ for new car and 164.50 for 3 year registration??

    Can anyone confirm these prices or can I call out the dealer for any bullcrap??

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    pizan619 said:

    Just received a purchase order but I have a few things that are bothering me.

    1. Freight/destination 820$ but isnt that included in the MSRP or sticker price? Pretty sure I just saw one this past weekend where that was included.

    2.Admin fee of 599$??? Seems high

    3. Tax 1112.34...if my math is correct he is basing this tax off 441/month. but is quoting me 454 all in with tax so there is something wrong there.

    4. tags and license- 975$ for NJ. This cannot be right. According DMV, title is 80$ for new car and 164.50 for 3 year registration??

    Can anyone confirm these prices or can I call out the dealer for any bullcrap??

    Thanks

    1. Destination is part of the MSRP and is residualized
    2. I've had folks post admin fees as high as $899 (Florida) Try to negotiate a lower selling price to compensate.
    3. In NJ, tax is computed against the sum of the payments
    4. Can't help you with the NJ DMV costs

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,955
    pizan619 said:

    Just received a purchase order but I have a few things that are bothering me.

    1. Freight/destination 820$ but isnt that included in the MSRP or sticker price? Pretty sure I just saw one this past weekend where that was included.

    2.Admin fee of 599$??? Seems high

    3. Tax 1112.34...if my math is correct he is basing this tax off 441/month. but is quoting me 454 all in with tax so there is something wrong there.

    4. tags and license- 975$ for NJ. This cannot be right. According DMV, title is 80$ for new car and 164.50 for 3 year registration??

    Can anyone confirm these prices or can I call out the dealer for any bullcrap??

    Thanks

    If they added the destination fee to your negotiated price, then they didn't really give you that price.
    Admin fee and acquisition fee are taxed, as well. yes, $599 is ridiculous.
    $975 for tags/license is definitely not right. $400-$500, max.

    Get a quote from another dealer..

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  • gtindeedgtindeed Member Posts: 5
    Hi,

    Looking for numbers on a 2016 GTI SE 4D automatic w/ performance package. Either 36 months/12k or 36 months/15k in Los Angeles.

    Looks like .00125 and 59% for 36/12 with $1,250 in incentives? Is that right?

    What dealer did you use 3mk7gtis?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    gtindeed said:

    Hi,

    Looking for numbers on a 2016 GTI SE 4D automatic w/ performance package. Either 36 months/12k or 36 months/15k in Los Angeles.

    Looks like .00125 and 59% for 36/12 with $1,250 in incentives? Is that right?

    What dealer did you use 3mk7gtis?

    Thanks

    .00125 and 57% for 36/15. Add 2% for 12K. $250 lease cash - I'm pretty sure there's another $1000 in incentives that are public record.

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  • gtindeedgtindeed Member Posts: 5
    edited March 2016
    Thanks Michaell. Any difference for the autobahn package?

    Will let everyone know what I end up with.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    gtindeed said:

    Thanks Michaell. Any difference for the autobahn package?

    Will let everyone know what I end up with.

    All GTI's have the same numbers, regardless of trim or package.

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  • 3mk7gtis3mk7gtis Member Posts: 3
    Marcos Bonilla at Galpin VW in North Hills. 


  • mushpotatoesmushpotatoes Member Posts: 2
    Looking for RV + MF for a 2016 GTI 4 door Autobahn or SE (Automatic). Located in IL. Possible terms: 36/10, 36/12, 48/10. Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508

    Looking for RV + MF for a 2016 GTI 4 door Autobahn or SE (Automatic). Located in IL. Possible terms: 36/10, 36/12, 48/10. Thanks in advance!

    36/12 - .00125 and 59%. Add 1% for 10K
    48/10 - .00175 and 53%

    $250 lease cash.

    Both trims.

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  • mushpotatoesmushpotatoes Member Posts: 2
    Much appreciated @Michaell. Any advice when negotiating with a dealership who attempts to keep this information hidden or manipulate the numbers? I've come across several recently that are afraid of having an honest conversation (for obvious reasons on their end).
  • ChrismaxChrismax Member Posts: 87
    @mushpotatoes, where in IL are you looking? I could recommend a couple dealerships.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508

    Much appreciated @Michaell. Any advice when negotiating with a dealership who attempts to keep this information hidden or manipulate the numbers? I've come across several recently that are afraid of having an honest conversation (for obvious reasons on their end).

    Tell them (politely but firmly) that you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF. They know what the base rate is. And, reach out to multiple dealers and get them to compete against one another for your business.

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  • mrjpkh22mrjpkh22 Member Posts: 3
    Is anyone else having trouble finding a 2dr SE? The DC/MD/VA area doesn't seem to have a single unit.
  • vr6_d00dvr6_d00d Member Posts: 5
    edited March 2016
    Hello. I am looking for the MF and RV on a 2016 GTI SE Performance Pack DSG 4dr for 36/12 and 36/15. MSRP is $34,155. I live in MD but might get it from VA, not sure if that matters. Any incentives? I currently lease a VW.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    vr6_d00d said:

    Hello. I am looking for the MF and RV on a 2016 GTI SE Performance Pack DSG 4dr for 36/12 and 36/15. MSRP is $34,155. I live in MD but might get it from VA, not sure if that matters. Any incentives? I currently lease a VW.

    .00125 and 57% for 36/15. Add 2% for 12K.

    $250 lease cash.

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  • vr6_d00dvr6_d00d Member Posts: 5
    Michaell said:

    vr6_d00d said:

    Hello. I am looking for the MF and RV on a 2016 GTI SE Performance Pack DSG 4dr for 36/12 and 36/15. MSRP is $34,155. I live in MD but might get it from VA, not sure if that matters. Any incentives? I currently lease a VW.

    .00125 and 57% for 36/15. Add 2% for 12K.

    $250 lease cash.
    Thank you!
  • ursusursus Member Posts: 128
    vr6_d00d said:

    Hello. I am looking for the MF and RV on a 2016 GTI SE Performance Pack DSG 4dr for 36/12 and 36/15. MSRP is $34,155. I live in MD but might get it from VA, not sure if that matters. Any incentives? I currently lease a VW.

    Keep in mind that you'll pay $599 VA vs $299 MD processing fees.

  • mattostkemattostke Member Posts: 7
    Hello, could I possibly get the MF & Residuals for a GTI 4-Door SE, automatic, w/performance package, lighting & dcc. 10k miles, 36/42 mo. I'm in Virginia. Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    mattostke said:

    Hello, could I possibly get the MF & Residuals for a GTI 4-Door SE, automatic, w/performance package, lighting & dcc. 10k miles, 36/42 mo. I'm in Virginia. Thank you.

    36/10 - .00125 and 60%
    42/10 - .00175 and 56%

    $250 lease cash.

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  • lucyredlucyred Member Posts: 95
    Hello, can you please give me the MF & Residuals for a GTI 4-Door SE, automatic, w/performance package, lighting. 12k miles, 36 months in NY. Thank you.
  • ycsungyyycsungyy Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2016
    Hi, I live in CA and I am looking for the MF and RV on a 2016 GTI S 4-Door DSG Automatic: for 24/10, 24/12, 36/10 and 36/12. MSRP is $27,785. If I remember correctly, the incentives are $1,000 Safety In Numbers Event Cash. Can the both incentives be counted as Capital Cost Reduction? The best sell price I got is $22687 (Including $1000 rebate).

    Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,955
    lucyred said:

    Hello, can you please give me the MF & Residuals for a GTI 4-Door SE, automatic, w/performance package, lighting. 12k miles, 36 months in NY. Thank you.

    .00125 MF and 59% residual. $250 lease cash

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,955
    ycsungyy said:

    Hi, I live in CA and I am looking for the MF and RV on a 2016 GTI S 4-Door DSG Automatic: for 24/10, 24/12, 36/10 and 36/12. MSRP is $27,785. If I remember correctly, the incentives are $1,000 Safety In Numbers Event Cash. Can the both incentives be counted as Capital Cost Reduction? The best sell price I got is $22687 (Including $1000 rebate).

    Thanks.

    .00125 MF and 67%/66% residual or 60%/59% residual. $250 lease cash.

    Don't have any information on the other rebates.

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  • lucyredlucyred Member Posts: 95
    Hi, Thanks for the information. I meant GTI 4-door SE(No performance package), 12/36, NY. I am looking for the residual/MF. THanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    lucyred said:

    Hi, Thanks for the information. I meant GTI 4-door SE(No performance package), 12/36, NY. I am looking for the residual/MF. THanks again.

    All GTI numbers are the same, regardless of trim and package.

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  • dd086703dd086703 Member Posts: 3
    Looking to verify my calculation method. Using the current MF and Residual. 12/36

    MSRP: 33,340
    Net Capitalized: 29,306 (Tags, fees, acq fee, destination included and 1000 rebate)

    I'm getting 362.44 including tax (VA .0427) Does this sound right?

    I'm having issues similar to a poster earlier with being offered a inflated MF.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,955
    dd086703 said:

    Looking to verify my calculation method. Using the current MF and Residual. 12/36

    MSRP: 33,340
    Net Capitalized: 29,306 (Tags, fees, acq fee, destination included and 1000 rebate)

    I'm getting 362.44 including tax (VA .0427) Does this sound right?

    I'm having issues similar to a poster earlier with being offered a inflated MF.

    .00125 MF and 59% residual? I get $329/mo.+tax.

    VA taxes the full selling price, I think.

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  • ursusursus Member Posts: 128
    kyfdx said:

    ...
    VA taxes the full selling price, I think.

    Yes, they are and it sucks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    ursus said:

    kyfdx said:

    ...
    VA taxes the full selling price, I think.

    Yes, they are and it sucks.

    But not at the full tax rate - 4.1% on autos.

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  • tytus1994tytus1994 Member Posts: 21
    edited March 2016
    I am looking to lease a 2016 GTI. Any trim with a manual. I am looking 36 months and 10k miles. I am new to this and not sure what any of the information really means. I want sub $300 payments with little down. I will not be keeping after 3 years. I have a +750 credit score.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    tytus1994 said:

    I am looking to lease a 2016 GTI. Any trim with a manual. I am looking 36 months and 10k miles. I am new to this and not sure what any of the information really means. I want sub $300 payments with little down. I will not be keeping after 3 years. I have a +750 credit score.

    .00125 and 60% for 36/10. $250 lease cash.

    Check here for information about leasing:

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/

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  • mrtonyxlmrtonyxl Member Posts: 4
    Hi, long time lurker, this forum is great! I see trim/package doesn't matter, so could someone kindly provide current mf and residual for Florida on a 2016 GTI 24/15 and 36/15? Big difference for 24/12 and 36/12? Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,508
    mrtonyxl said:

    Hi, long time lurker, this forum is great! I see trim/package doesn't matter, so could someone kindly provide current mf and residual for Florida on a 2016 GTI 24/15 and 36/15? Big difference for 24/12 and 36/12? Thanks in advance!

    .00125 and 57% (36/15) or 64% (24/15)

    Add 2% for 12K

    $250 lease cash

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  • jajagaborjajagabor Member Posts: 1
    please post residual and money factor for 2016 GTI 4 dr S Automatic - I am in the state of NY thanks
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