2016 Mercedes Benz CLA-Class Lease Questions

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  • tonydt1g3rtonydt1g3r Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2016
    Can I get the MF and residual for CLA 250 FWD 36/10k and 36/12k please. Thanks in advance
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403

    Can I get the MF and residual for CLA 250 FWD 36/10k and 36/12k please. Thanks in advance

    .00080 and 61% or 60%

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  • carguymiacarguymia Member Posts: 37
    Can you please provide Florida MF and residual details for Mercedes 2016 CLA 250 and 2016 CLA 250 4matic, 36/10k, 36/12k and 36/15k. Thank you in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    carguymia said:

    Can you please provide Florida MF and residual details for Mercedes 2016 CLA 250 and 2016 CLA 250 4matic, 36/10k, 36/12k and 36/15k. Thank you in advance.

    36/15 - 58% and .00080 (FWD) or .00083 (4Matic).

    Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K

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  • SimpsonTide985SimpsonTide985 Member Posts: 39
    edited September 2016
    Can I get the MF and residual for CLA250 AWD for Iowa 36/10k. Here's the actual vehicle:
    CLA250 4MATIC Sport

    Also, with it being a 2016 and MSRP of $48,375, it looks like I could get a good asking price. Any possibility I could bring it down closer to $38k-40k? I haven't seen a lot of offers.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,150

    Can I get the MF and residual for CLA250 AWD for Iowa 36/10k. Here's the actual vehicle:
    CLA250 4MATIC Sport

    Also, with it being a 2016 and MSRP of $48,375, it looks like I could get a good asking price. Any possibility I could bring it down closer to $38k-40k? I haven't seen a lot of offers.

    .00046 MF and 59% residual.

    Sorry, no idea on selling prices .

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  • SimpsonTide985SimpsonTide985 Member Posts: 39
    kyfdx said:

    Can I get the MF and residual for CLA250 AWD for Iowa 36/10k. Here's the actual vehicle:
    CLA250 4MATIC Sport

    Also, with it being a 2016 and MSRP of $48,375, it looks like I could get a good asking price. Any possibility I could bring it down closer to $38k-40k? I haven't seen a lot of offers.

    .00046 MF and 59% residual.

    Sorry, no idea on selling prices .
    Thanks. I'll go back to the dealer and see what they come up with.
  • viper262viper262 Member Posts: 2
    Could I get the MF and residual for CLA250 AWD in Colorado. Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    viper262 said:

    Could I get the MF and residual for CLA250 AWD in Colorado. Thank you.

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • viper262viper262 Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    viper262 said:

    Could I get the MF and residual for CLA250 AWD in Colorado. Thank you.

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36/10k
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,150
    viper262 said:

    Michaell said:

    viper262 said:

    Could I get the MF and residual for CLA250 AWD in Colorado. Thank you.

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36/10k
    .00046 MF and 59% residual

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  • SimpsonTide985SimpsonTide985 Member Posts: 39
    Can someone check on this?

    CLA 250 4MATIC
    MSRP $45,780 (Demo/Loaner Car with 2,000 miles) - Located in Minnesota (but I'll be driving it in Iowa)
    Final Selling Price $38,487

    Monthly payment of $370.73
    36 months
    $2500 down
    Money factor is at .00088
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,150

    Can someone check on this?

    CLA 250 4MATIC
    MSRP $45,780 (Demo/Loaner Car with 2,000 miles) - Located in Minnesota (but I'll be driving it in Iowa)
    Final Selling Price $38,487

    Monthly payment of $370.73
    36 months
    $2500 down
    Money factor is at .00088

    .00046 MF and 56% residual for 36/15.

    Is $2500 the full amount due at signing?
    What is your tax rate?
    What is the mileage allowance?

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  • kfromevanstonkfromevanston Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2016
    Hi, can I get the 2016 CLA 4matic - September base MF and residuals for CO and NV - 36/10?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403

    Hi, can I get the 2016 CLA 4matic - September base MF and residuals for CO and NV - 36/10?

    .00046 and 59%

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  • kfromevanstonkfromevanston Member Posts: 14
    Thank you Michaell. Any suggestions on how to get the MF down? Dealer has given me a 14.4% discount off MSRP for 2016 model but the MF is 3-4x the base amount you are suggesting and the residual is a few points higher.
  • kfromevanstonkfromevanston Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2016

    Can I get the MF and residual for CLA250 AWD for Iowa 36/10k. Here's the actual vehicle:
    CLA250 4MATIC Sport

    Also, with it being a 2016 and MSRP of $48,375, it looks like I could get a good asking price. Any possibility I could bring it down closer to $38k-40k? I haven't seen a lot of offers.

    I would call around. Good luck.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    edited September 2016

    Thank you Michaell. Any suggestions on how to get the MF down? Dealer has given me a 14.4% discount off MSRP for 2016 model but the MF is 3-4x the base amount you are suggesting and the residual is a few points higher.

    Be polite and tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF.

    And, the dealer can not modify the residual value - it's set by the bank.

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  • kfromevanstonkfromevanston Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2016
    Michaell - can I get the MF and residual on 10/36 in AZ, or CA for Oct for 2016 CLA?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,150

    Michaell - can I get the MF and residual on 10/36 in AZ, or CA for Oct for 2016 CLA?

    .00043 MF and 59% residual

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  • stacyd8stacyd8 Member Posts: 2
    Does the MF and residual vary by state? Looking for OR... for three options 36/10, 36/12, 36/15.

    Is it worth going lower mileage to start and then buying additional miles if needed? The dealer was pushing me to go low and buy extra, but would love a non-biased opinion.
    Typically buy vs. lease, so wrapping my head around it all.

    Hoping now that 17s have started to arrive, the pricing on the 16s should be much more aggressive to move.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    stacyd8 said:

    Does the MF and residual vary by state? Looking for OR... for three options 36/10, 36/12, 36/15.

    Is it worth going lower mileage to start and then buying additional miles if needed? The dealer was pushing me to go low and buy extra, but would love a non-biased opinion.
    Typically buy vs. lease, so wrapping my head around it all.

    Hoping now that 17s have started to arrive, the pricing on the 16s should be much more aggressive to move.

    The MB numbers are national.

    FWD or 4Matic?

    And, I believe you can only 'buy' extra miles when you start out with the 15K residual.

    Regarding the buy vs. lease argument, how long do you normally keep your vehicles?

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  • stacyd8stacyd8 Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    stacyd8 said:

    Does the MF and residual vary by state? Looking for OR... for three options 36/10, 36/12, 36/15.

    Is it worth going lower mileage to start and then buying additional miles if needed? The dealer was pushing me to go low and buy extra, but would love a non-biased opinion.
    Typically buy vs. lease, so wrapping my head around it all.

    Hoping now that 17s have started to arrive, the pricing on the 16s should be much more aggressive to move.

    The MB numbers are national.

    FWD or 4Matic?

    And, I believe you can only 'buy' extra miles when you start out with the 15K residual.

    Regarding the buy vs. lease argument, how long do you normally keep your vehicles?
    4matic.

    Interesting about "buying" only when maxing out at 15K. I'll have to follow-up on that.

    In the past, I've had cars about 6-8 years, but kind of like the idea of being able to get something new every 3 years or so (and a lower payment). OR if I'm in love with the car, refinance at the end of the lease term and go the ownership route.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    stacyd8 said:

    Michaell said:

    stacyd8 said:

    Does the MF and residual vary by state? Looking for OR... for three options 36/10, 36/12, 36/15.

    Is it worth going lower mileage to start and then buying additional miles if needed? The dealer was pushing me to go low and buy extra, but would love a non-biased opinion.
    Typically buy vs. lease, so wrapping my head around it all.

    Hoping now that 17s have started to arrive, the pricing on the 16s should be much more aggressive to move.

    The MB numbers are national.

    FWD or 4Matic?

    And, I believe you can only 'buy' extra miles when you start out with the 15K residual.

    Regarding the buy vs. lease argument, how long do you normally keep your vehicles?
    4matic.

    Interesting about "buying" only when maxing out at 15K. I'll have to follow-up on that.

    In the past, I've had cars about 6-8 years, but kind of like the idea of being able to get something new every 3 years or so (and a lower payment). OR if I'm in love with the car, refinance at the end of the lease term and go the ownership route.
    .00046 and 56% for 36/15. Add 2% for 12K or 3% for 10K.

    I hear you. I have car ADD, so I tend to lease and get something new every three years. My wife is a 'buy and hold' person, so we financed her Outback.

    But - rarely does it make sense to lease with an intention to buy. There are costs associated with a lease that you don't have when you buy (acquisition fee, for one). So, think through this based on how much you like the car and how long you keep it.

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  • jimmybradyjimmybrady Member Posts: 106
    Can I get the residual and MF for the cla45 amg 36/15k. Michigan
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,150

    Can I get the residual and MF for the cla45 amg 36/15k. Michigan

    .00063 MF and 51% residual

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  • kfromevanstonkfromevanston Member Posts: 14
    Can I get the MF and Residual for CA, AZ, CO - 2016 CLA FWD or AWD - both 36/10k?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403

    Can I get the MF and Residual for CA, AZ, CO - 2016 CLA FWD or AWD - both 36/10k?

    MB numbers are national.

    FWD - .00043
    AWD - .00046

    59% residual for both

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  • kfromevanstonkfromevanston Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2016
    Sorry I just realized I asked within the same month. I apologize guys. I was looking for Novembers numbers for FWD and AWD CLA 250
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403

    Sorry I just realized I asked within the same month. I apologize guys. I was looking for Novembers numbers for FWD and AWD CLA 250

    Assuming you want 36/10 again:

    FWD - .00025
    AWD - .00027

    58% for both.

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  • lvrebellvrebel Member Posts: 11
    edited November 2016
    Are above numbers (FWD - .00025 and AWD - .00027) the same for Washington State CLA 250 AWD and FWD?

    Also what are residuals for the same, 7500/36 and 10000/36? Thank you.
  • vokenvoken Member Posts: 21
    Michaell, what is the residual and MF for 2016/2017 CLA 250 AWD for 36/10K ? From earlier posts, I took it as 58% and 0.00027 for both 2016 and 2017. The dealer just told me that for 2017 its actually 60% and 0.00046. Is this correct ?

    Is the below deal good ?
    MSRP - 34,400 + $7650 (extras) + $925 destination = $42,975
    Net Cost = $37,818 (assuming a 12% discount)
    Residual = $25,785 (at 60%)
    Depreciation = $12,033

    Monthly: $363.51 (finance fee -29.26 + monthly fee 334.25)

    I live in Yonkers, NY (10701). do you know on what amount the tax will be calculated ? I am assuming Tax is paid on monthly payment, so it shd be (8.875% on $363.51 = $31.81 * 36 months = $1,145) . Is this correct ? The dealer said my tax will be close to $2,087 !!!!

    Thanks !
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    lvrebel said:

    Are above numbers (FWD - .00025 and AWD - .00027) the same for Washington State CLA 250 AWD and FWD?

    Also what are residuals for the same, 7500/36 and 10000/36? Thank you.

    MB numbers are national.

    58% for 36/10K, 59% for 36/7500

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    voken said:

    Michaell, what is the residual and MF for 2016/2017 CLA 250 AWD for 36/10K ? From earlier posts, I took it as 58% and 0.00027 for both 2016 and 2017. The dealer just told me that for 2017 its actually 60% and 0.00046. Is this correct ?

    Is the below deal good ?
    MSRP - 34,400 + $7650 (extras) + $925 destination = $42,975
    Net Cost = $37,818 (assuming a 12% discount)
    Residual = $25,785 (at 60%)
    Depreciation = $12,033

    Monthly: $363.51 (finance fee -29.26 + monthly fee 334.25)

    I live in Yonkers, NY (10701). do you know on what amount the tax will be calculated ? I am assuming Tax is paid on monthly payment, so it shd be (8.875% on $363.51 = $31.81 * 36 months = $1,145) . Is this correct ? The dealer said my tax will be close to $2,087 !!!!

    Thanks !

    This is the 2016 thread; all numbers are valid for 2016 only. 2017 thread is here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/43248/mercedes-benz/cla-class/2017-mercedes-benz-cla-class-lease-questions#latest

    .00046 is the 2017 MF with autopay discount factored in.

    We should take this to the 2017 thread, so as not to confuse people.

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  • vokenvoken Member Posts: 21
    Thanks again ! I will post 2017 part of the question on the 2017 thread.
  • bmwpcbmwpc Member Posts: 23
    edited February 2017
    Need some help. Looking a leasing a 2017 Mercedes Benz CLA250C, MSRP $46.1 . I can buy the car for $42k plus taxes, registration etc. However for a zero down , 7500 mile, 36 month lease they want $694 a month. This seems way out of line. Please help/comment. Location is Tampa, FL. Absolutely no credit score concerns.Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    bmwpc said:

    Need some help. Looking a leasing a 2017 Mercedes Benz CLA250C, MSRP $46.1 . I can buy the car for $42k plus taxes, registration etc. However for a zero down , 7500 mile, 36 month lease they want $694 a month. This seems way out of line. Please help/comment. Location is Tampa, FL. Absolutely no credit score concerns.Thanks

    I see you've also posted in the 2017 thread ... I'll answer over there.

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  • howdy_azhowdy_az Member Posts: 12
    Hi @Michaell ,
    What is the residual and money factor on 2016 cla for 36 months/12k.
    A dealer is offering 56% residual and 0.00025 MF on cla 250 which has ~2000 miles (was a loaner car and wasn't titled). How these miles driven are calculated in a lease calculation?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,150
    howdy_az said:

    Hi @Michaell ,
    What is the residual and money factor on 2016 cla for 36 months/12k.
    A dealer is offering 56% residual and 0.00025 MF on cla 250 which has ~2000 miles (was a loaner car and wasn't titled). How these miles driven are calculated in a lease calculation?

    Thanks!

    .00006 MF and 56% residual for 36/12.

    The extra miles will reduce the residual from the 56% amount. Probably by $0.20-$0.25 per mile.

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  • colt250colt250 Member Posts: 43
    Would you please give me the MF/RV on the 2016 CLA250 4matic. 36/10k and 36/12k. Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    colt250 said:

    Would you please give me the MF/RV on the 2016 CLA250 4matic. 36/10k and 36/12k. Thank you

    .00008 and 57% / 56%

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  • f3honda4mef3honda4me Member Posts: 12
    Would you be so kind as to provide the MF and RV for 2016 CLA45 AMG, 36/10 or 36/12.
  • f3honda4mef3honda4me Member Posts: 12
    Oh while I'm at it, same question for the 2017 C43 amg sedan and the 2016 C450 AMG sedan please. :)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403

    Would you be so kind as to provide the MF and RV for 2016 CLA45 AMG, 36/10 or 36/12.

    .00001 and 51% for 36/12. Add 1% for 10K

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403

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  • f3honda4mef3honda4me Member Posts: 12
    Thanks Michaell!
  • maestra3maestra3 Member Posts: 3
    Hi @Michaell , I'm looking to lease a dealer service CLA 2016 FWD. The listed price is 32,000. Is 28,000 a reasonable price to offer for it? If not, what would be. It has 9,000 miles and allowed miles is 7500. MF is 0.0008 and residual I was given is 61%. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    maestra3 said:

    Hi @Michaell , I'm looking to lease a dealer service CLA 2016 FWD. The listed price is 32,000. Is 28,000 a reasonable price to offer for it? If not, what would be. It has 9,000 miles and allowed miles is 7500. MF is 0.0008 and residual I was given is 61%. Thanks

    What lease term and how many miles per year are you looking for?

    The MF is .00006 (4 zeros).

    We don't track selling prices - find out what kind of discount is available on a new unit, and deduct accordingly for the miles. That's how the residual is adjusted.

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  • maestra3maestra3 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks. I'm looking at a 36 month lease, 7500 miles per year. Also the MF was 0.00008 but based on your comment, I'm going to ask for 0.00006. Sorry to ask a very basic question. If the discount available is 2000, how exactly do I "deduct accordingly for the miles"? Do I  just take 2000 off the sale price I was offered or is there some other formula? 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,403
    maestra3 said:

    Thanks. I'm looking at a 36 month lease, 7500 miles per year. Also the MF was 0.00008 but based on your comment, I'm going to ask for 0.00006. Sorry to ask a very basic question. If the discount available is 2000, how exactly do I "deduct accordingly for the miles"? Do I  just take 2000 off the sale price I was offered or is there some other formula? 

    .00008 is the base MF for the CLA 4Matic.

    Generally, deduct .25-.50 per mile; if the car has 9000 miles on it, take another $2K off the $2k discount you are already getting.

    58% residual for 36/7.5

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