2016 Lexus GS Lease Questions

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    cyno said:

    Sorry if this has been stated, but it isn't clear to me.
    Please provide the MF and Residual for So. CA. for 36/12 in the F Sport.

    .00110 MF and 54% residual.
    $4200 lease cash

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  • sundevilocsundeviloc Member Posts: 64
    Hi do you have the residual value, MF and lease cash for GS350 RWD 36/10 in SoCal. I don't think LFS does 7,500 mile a year leases do they?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077

    Hi do you have the residual value, MF and lease cash for GS350 RWD 36/10 in SoCal. I don't think LFS does 7,500 mile a year leases do they?

    .00110 MF and 60% residual. $4200 lease cash

    Yes, LFS offers 7.5K/yr. Add 1%

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  • cynocyno Member Posts: 29
    Do these #'s make any sense for 2016 GS F Sport? I thought the residual was 54%, but that's not what is stated. Also, even is using the residual and MF they provided, I get $676.69 + tax

    This is what a dealer sent me:

    Msrp. of 59,434.00, and your price of 52,875.00

    Term: 36 months
    Mile/Year Limit: 12,000
    Customer Cash: Zero
    Monthly Payment: $ 624.61+ tax ($ 671.46 including tax)

    Residual of 51% or 30,311.34
    Money Factor of 0.00060
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    cyno said:

    Do these #'s make any sense for 2016 GS F Sport? I thought the residual was 54%, but that's not what is stated. Also, even is using the residual and MF they provided, I get $676.69 + tax

    This is what a dealer sent me:

    Msrp. of 59,434.00, and your price of 52,875.00

    Term: 36 months
    Mile/Year Limit: 12,000
    Customer Cash: Zero
    Monthly Payment: $ 624.61+ tax ($ 671.46 including tax)

    Residual of 51% or 30,311.34
    Money Factor of 0.00060

    I see no version of the GS where the 36/12 residual is 51%. RWD GS350 36/15 is 51%. Dealer cannot modify the residual so confirm the trim level they are using.

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  • hillestadkhillestadk Member Posts: 88
    Can I please have the MF and residual for a GS200t and GS350
    24/15 and 36/15. Any lease cash available?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335

    Can I please have the MF and residual for a GS200t and GS350
    24/15 and 36/15. Any lease cash available?

    Base or F-Sport?

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  • obi1andkobe2obi1andkobe2 Member Posts: 50
    Can I please have the MF and residual for a GS350 F-Sport, in Miami Florida for 36/12 and 36/10?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335

    Can I please have the MF and residual for a GS350 F-Sport, in Miami Florida for 36/12 and 36/10?

    .00110 and 54% or 55%. $4200 lease cash.

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  • rockafellausrockafellaus Member Posts: 1
    Hi,

    Working on leasing a 2016 GS 350 F-Sport. Current offer in NJ is $4,200 lease cash. Price of vehicle is $58,570. With $5K down on a 36 month lease with 10K miles per year. Dealer is quoting a price of $530 a month which includes first month.

    Please let me know if this is a good price. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335

    Hi,

    Working on leasing a 2016 GS 350 F-Sport. Current offer in NJ is $4,200 lease cash. Price of vehicle is $58,570. With $5K down on a 36 month lease with 10K miles per year. Dealer is quoting a price of $530 a month which includes first month.

    Please let me know if this is a good price. Thanks

    Is $58,570 the MSRP or the cap cost? We'd need both to run the payment.

    And, we don't recommend making a down payment on a lease - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

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  • hillestadkhillestadk Member Posts: 88
    Michaell said:

    Can I please have the MF and residual for a GS200t and GS350
    24/15 and 36/15. Any lease cash available?

    Base or F-Sport?
    I'm sorry. Base model.
    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077

    Michaell said:

    Can I please have the MF and residual for a GS200t and GS350
    24/15 and 36/15. Any lease cash available?

    Base or F-Sport?
    I'm sorry. Base model.
    Thanks
    .00110 MF

    200t: 58%/52% residual. $4650 lease cash
    320: 57%/51% residual. $4200 lease cash

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  • hillestadkhillestadk Member Posts: 88
    kyfdx said:
    Can I please have the MF and residual for a GS200t and GS350 24/15 and 36/15. Any lease cash available?
    Base or F-Sport?
    I'm sorry. Base model. Thanks
    .00110 MF 200t: 58%/52% residual. $4650 lease cash 320: 57%/51% residual. $4200 lease cash
    Thanks
    im assuming the F-Sport is 1% higher on residuals?
    is the lease cash the same? 
  • john_o789john_o789 Member Posts: 3
    Hi, can I have numbers for in So. CA:
    -GS 350 F-sport
    -GS 350
    -GS 200t F-sport
    -GS 200t
    All RWD and 36/10, Thank you!
  • cynocyno Member Posts: 29
    Do these #'s look correct for a 2016 GS 350 F Sport 36/12 lease?
    I am in Los Angeles with 9% tax rate.
    Based on this they gave me a monthly payment quote of $503 with $1500 down.
    Due at Signing: $2,566.89

    Doesn't it seem like they are jacking up the MF?

    Also, what is the tax figure of $542.70 that I see in there?

    Market Value Selling Price 58,885.00
    Discount 7,458.00
    Rebate 4,450.00
    Adjusted Price 46,977.00
    Total Purchase 46,977.00
    Trade Allowance
    Trade Difference 46,977.00
    Doc Fee 80.00
    Tax 542.70
    Non Tax Fees 483.75
    Net Price 48,083.45
    Trade Payoff
    Balance 48,083.45
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077


    kyfdx said:

    Michaell said:

    Can I please have the MF and residual for a GS200t and GS350
    24/15 and 36/15. Any lease cash available?

    Base or F-Sport?
    I'm sorry. Base model.
    Thanks
    .00110 MF

    200t: 58%/52% residual. $4650 lease cash
    350: 57%/51% residual. $4200 lease cash

    Thanks
    im assuming the F-Sport is 1% higher on residuals?
    is the lease cash the same? 

    Yes. +1% for RWD F-Sport
    Everything else is the same.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    john_o789 said:

    Hi, can I have numbers for in So. CA:
    -GS 350 F-sport
    -GS 350
    -GS 200t F-sport
    -GS 200t
    All RWD and 36/10, Thank you!

    200t: 55%/56% residual for base/fsport $4650 lease cash
    350: 54%/55% residual for base/fsport $4200 lease cash

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    cyno said:

    Do these #'s look correct for a 2016 GS 350 F Sport 36/12 lease?
    I am in Los Angeles with 9% tax rate.
    Based on this they gave me a monthly payment quote of $503 with $1500 down.
    Due at Signing: $2,566.89

    Doesn't it seem like they are jacking up the MF?

    Also, what is the tax figure of $542.70 that I see in there?

    Market Value Selling Price 58,885.00
    Discount 7,458.00
    Rebate 4,450.00
    Adjusted Price 46,977.00
    Total Purchase 46,977.00
    Trade Allowance
    Trade Difference 46,977.00
    Doc Fee 80.00
    Tax 542.70
    Non Tax Fees 483.75
    Net Price 48,083.45
    Trade Payoff
    Balance 48,083.45

    The cap reduction and the rebate are both taxed. That's where the upfront tax comes in.
    The one amount they don't show is $700 for the acquisition fee.
    The non-taxable fees and doc fee are paid upfront along with the first payment ($1166.89?).
    $46977
    +$700
    +$542.70
    -$1500
    = $46,719.70 (adjusted CAP cost)
    .00110 MF and 55% residual
    $485/mo.+tax. = $528/mo.
    Since you are $25/mo. under that, I'll assume that your adjusted price includes the acquisition fee, which would just about balance it out.
    Doesn't look like any markups from here.

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  • cynocyno Member Posts: 29
    The dealer said he is actually using a MF of .0006. What should the payment be in that case?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    cyno said:

    The dealer said he is actually using a MF of .0006. What should the payment be in that case?

    $446/mo.+tax, or about $486/mo. all in.

    To get the exact number, ask them for the adjusted CAP cost.

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  • cynocyno Member Posts: 29
    kyfdx said:

    cyno said:

    Do these #'s look correct for a 2016 GS 350 F Sport 36/12 lease?
    I am in Los Angeles with 9% tax rate.
    Based on this they gave me a monthly payment quote of $503 with $1500 down.
    Due at Signing: $2,566.89

    Doesn't it seem like they are jacking up the MF?

    Also, what is the tax figure of $542.70 that I see in there?

    Market Value Selling Price 58,885.00
    Discount 7,458.00
    Rebate 4,450.00
    Adjusted Price 46,977.00
    Total Purchase 46,977.00
    Trade Allowance
    Trade Difference 46,977.00
    Doc Fee 80.00
    Tax 542.70
    Non Tax Fees 483.75
    Net Price 48,083.45
    Trade Payoff
    Balance 48,083.45

    The cap reduction and the rebate are both taxed. That's where the upfront tax comes in.
    The one amount they don't show is $700 for the acquisition fee.
    The non-taxable fees and doc fee are paid upfront along with the first payment ($1166.89?).
    $46977
    +$700
    +$542.70
    -$1500
    = $46,719.70 (adjusted CAP cost)
    .00110 MF and 55% residual
    $485/mo.+tax. = $528/mo.
    Since you are $25/mo. under that, I'll assume that your adjusted price includes the acquisition fee, which would just about balance it out.
    Doesn't look like any markups from here.
    I noticed you used 55% residual. Shouldnt it be 54% with a 36/12 lease?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    Yep... good catch.

    Now, at $503/mo. post-tax.

    Look at that! ;)

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  • cynocyno Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2016
    Should there be a "Delivery Processing and Handling" fee of $950 as well as an "acquisition fee" of $700?

    Looks like there is a $995 charge that is part of the MSRP of $58,885. Would this fee normally include the acquisition fee or is that always an additional cost that is added on to it? The dealer added a $700 fee in to the CAP cost bringing the net CAP cost to $46,719.70.

    Also, they are definitely using .0006 as the MF.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    cyno said:

    Should there be a "Delivery Processing and Handling" fee of $950 as well as an "acquisition fee" of $700?

    Looks like there is a $995 charge that is part of the MSRP of $58,885. Would this fee normally include the acquisition fee or is that always an additional cost that is added on to it? The dealer added a $700 fee in to the CAP cost bringing the net CAP cost to $46,719.70.

    Also, they are definitely using .0006 as the MF.

    $700 is the acquisition fee, imposed by Lexus Financial.

    The $950 is junk - do you live in Florida? That is the home of the outrageous dealer fee.

    The $995 is likely the 'destination' fee, if it is part of the factory sticker. Every Lexus is charged this amount, regardless of location.

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  • jmsnycjmsnyc Member Posts: 20
    edited October 2016
    Michaell said:

    cyno said:

    Should there be a "Delivery Processing and Handling" fee of $950 as well as an "acquisition fee" of $700?

    Looks like there is a $995 charge that is part of the MSRP of $58,885. Would this fee normally include the acquisition fee or is that always an additional cost that is added on to it? The dealer added a $700 fee in to the CAP cost bringing the net CAP cost to $46,719.70.

    Also, they are definitely using .0006 as the MF.

    $700 is the acquisition fee, imposed by Lexus Financial. Is there also a set disposition fee?

    The $950 is junk - do you live in Florida? That is the home of the outrageous dealer fee.

    The $995 is likely the 'destination' fee, if it is part of the factory sticker. Every Lexus is charged this amount, regardless of location.
    So when figuring the cost of lease payments (without sales tax) the destination fee will be part of the MSRP and thus the negotiated price, the $700 will be a fair add on? Other than taxes/title/registration, that should be it, right?

    Also, I see a lot of people when asking for residuals and mf mentioning the state they live in. Do they vary by state? I'm in Georgia and considering GS-350 F-Sport 2016 - 00110 mf 54% residual for 36/12k, right ?

    Thanks. I am a first time leaser.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    jmsnyc said:

    Michaell said:

    cyno said:

    Should there be a "Delivery Processing and Handling" fee of $950 as well as an "acquisition fee" of $700?

    Looks like there is a $995 charge that is part of the MSRP of $58,885. Would this fee normally include the acquisition fee or is that always an additional cost that is added on to it? The dealer added a $700 fee in to the CAP cost bringing the net CAP cost to $46,719.70.

    Also, they are definitely using .0006 as the MF.

    $700 is the acquisition fee, imposed by Lexus Financial.

    The $950 is junk - do you live in Florida? That is the home of the outrageous dealer fee.

    The $995 is likely the 'destination' fee, if it is part of the factory sticker. Every Lexus is charged this amount, regardless of location.
    So when figuring the cost of lease payments (without sales tax) the destination fee will be part of the MSRP and thus the negotiated price, the $700 will be a fair add on? Other than taxes/title/registration, that should be it, right?

    Also, I see a lot of people when asking for residuals and mf mentioning the state they live in. Do they vary by state? I'm in Georgia and considering GS-350 F-Sport 2016 - 00110 mf 54% residual for 36/12k, right ?

    Thanks. I am a first time leaser.
    You are correct, but almost every dealer in GA or FL will tack on an onerous dealer fee. Find out what their fee is before you start negotiating price, and then account for it with a lower offer.
    The MSRP includes destination. If they are breaking it out in the sale price, that's just to distract you from the true cost. The acquisition fee goes to the bank, and is on every Lexus lease.

    Lexus has four regions, but other than some slight differences in money factor and lease cash, the numbers are all the same. .00110 MF is correct for the Southern Region. 54% residual is nationwide. $4200 lease cash.

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  • jmsnycjmsnyc Member Posts: 20
    Are there new numbers for November?

    Also, If I have a trade in worth around $16-17k , it would bring the lease down incredibly low. Not sure if a dealer would do that. But would it be a mad move to trade in because I know it was mentioned towards top of page that huge down payments are bad - there might be a tax credit of about $1000 too if I trade.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    jmsnyc said:

    Are there new numbers for November?

    Also, If I have a trade in worth around $16-17k , it would bring the lease down incredibly low. Not sure if a dealer would do that. But would it be a mad move to trade in because I know it was mentioned towards top of page that huge down payments are bad - there might be a tax credit of about $1000 too if I trade.

    .00190 MF and 54% residual for 36/12.
    $6500 lease cash

    You should be able to trade your car in, and get the trade-in credit, and have the dealer cut you a check for it. No need to put it all down on the lease.

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  • lexusguy23lexusguy23 Member Posts: 80
    Hello! Can I get MF, lease cash and residual for the following? I am in Texas.

    2016 ES350
    2016 RC300 (F-Sport)
    2016 RC350 (F-Sport)

    Also, is there any lease cash or rebates for the 2017 models right now?

    Thank you!
  • jmsnycjmsnyc Member Posts: 20
    edited November 2016
    kyfdx said:





    You are correct, but almost every dealer in GA or FL will tack on an onerous dealer fee. Find out what their fee is before you start negotiating price, and then account for it with a lower offer.
    The MSRP includes destination. If they are breaking it out in the sale price, that's just to distract you from the true cost. The acquisition fee goes to the bank, and is on every Lexus lease.

    Lexus has four regions, but other than some slight differences in money factor and lease cash, the numbers are all the same. .00110 MF is correct for the Southern Region. 54% residual is nationwide. $4200 lease cash.

    Do you know if there is still cash incentive on purchase? Oct was $4k, can't find 2016 GS on Lexus site

    Also from 0.00110 to 0.00190 seems like a big jump from Oct to Nov. In my calculator it adds like $65/mo to lease
  • dkp1111dkp1111 Member Posts: 13
    Hi can you please share november residual and mf for gs350 fsport for california resident? 24mo/12k,  27/12, 36/12 thank you
  • dkp1111dkp1111 Member Posts: 13
    Also does the december to remember deal with 1st month free apply on the gs350 fsprt? Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077

    Hello! Can I get MF, lease cash and residual for the following? I am in Texas.

    2016 ES350
    2016 RC300 (F-Sport)
    2016 RC350 (F-Sport)

    Also, is there any lease cash or rebates for the 2017 models right now?

    Thank you!

    This is the GS lease discussion.

    2016 ES: http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/38625/lexus/es-350/2016-lexus-es-350-lease-questions#latest
    2016 RC: http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/39256/lexus/rc-350/2016-lexus-rc-350-lease-questions#latest

    Yes, there is some lease cash on the 2017 models.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    jmsnyc said:

    kyfdx said:





    You are correct, but almost every dealer in GA or FL will tack on an onerous dealer fee. Find out what their fee is before you start negotiating price, and then account for it with a lower offer.
    The MSRP includes destination. If they are breaking it out in the sale price, that's just to distract you from the true cost. The acquisition fee goes to the bank, and is on every Lexus lease.

    Lexus has four regions, but other than some slight differences in money factor and lease cash, the numbers are all the same. .00110 MF is correct for the Southern Region. 54% residual is nationwide. $4200 lease cash.

    Do you know if there is still cash incentive on purchase? Oct was $4k, can't find 2016 GS on Lexus site

    Also from 0.00110 to 0.00190 seems like a big jump from Oct to Nov. In my calculator it adds like $65/mo to lease
    Yes.. $6500 cash on lease or purchase.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    dkp1111 said:

    Hi can you please share november residual and mf for gs350 fsport for california resident? 24mo/12k,  27/12, 36/12 thank you

    .00190 MF and $6500 lease cash.
    60%/59%/54% residual

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    dkp1111 said:

    Also does the december to remember deal with 1st month free apply on the gs350 fsprt? Thank you!

    Not on the 2016 model.

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  • dkp1111dkp1111 Member Posts: 13
    Hows the numbers for the 2017 gs350 look? Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    dkp1111 said:

    Hows the numbers for the 2017 gs350 look? Thank you!

    2017 discussion is here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/43186/lexus/gs-350/2017-lexus-gs-350-lease-questions#latest

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  • dkp1111dkp1111 Member Posts: 13
    How many MSDs lexus allowed, and how much does 1 MSD reduce mf. Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    dkp1111 said:

    How many MSDs lexus allowed, and how much does 1 MSD reduce mf. Thank you!

    9 allowed - each reduces the MF by .00008

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  • dkp1111dkp1111 Member Posts: 13
    Wow look like Lexus doesn't want people to lease their cars, residual is low and  mf is high, even with 6500 lease cash the payment still higher than last month and no 1st mo complimentary.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    dkp1111 said:

    Wow look like Lexus doesn't want people to lease their cars, residual is low and  mf is high, even with 6500 lease cash the payment still higher than last month and no 1st mo complimentary.

    Not a lot of support left on the 2016's - I'm guessing there isn't enough inventory to warrant lease support.

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  • jmsnycjmsnyc Member Posts: 20
    What does MSD mean ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    jmsnyc said:

    What does MSD mean ?

    Multiple security deposit. Ability to buy down the MF.

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  • jmsnycjmsnyc Member Posts: 20
    Money has to go to lease or buy out for MSD, or can you just get back at lease end ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,335
    jmsnyc said:

    Money has to go to lease or buy out for MSD, or can you just get back at lease end ?

    MSD monies are returned to you at the end of the lease.

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  • dkp1111dkp1111 Member Posts: 13
    Any change on the number toward the end of month? :/ number looking bad, do you know any good deal now for bmw, mb or audi? Please help, hate taking the bus to work :/ thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,077
    dkp1111 said:

    Any change on the number toward the end of month? :/ number looking bad, do you know any good deal now for bmw, mb or audi? Please help, hate taking the bus to work :/ thank you!

    We don't get mid-month updates, if any.

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  • emad86emad86 Member Posts: 26
    Hey guys,

    Pleas provide numbers for GS350 Fsport 10k miles 27\36 months and 12k miles 27\36\ months. Also please provide incentive information.

    Thank you!!
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