Seems like this could be good or bad. It sounded like you had your Pilot's value pegged and agreed upon for a trade but maybe the deal fell apart on the new car....
Anxious to hear the details on what happened.
1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
people around the corner from me have a big hole in the front of their house this morning. 2 guys there installing a new front door package (door and 2 sidelights, so pretty much the width of 2 doors). Seems like an odd time to be doing that.
I bought the Tahoe in June or July, immediately replaced the wiper blades, and replaced them a second time today. I can't stand it when they start to chatter, even if it's cold out. The first ones were Bosch, the ones I just put on are "Aero" brand, we'll see whether they last longer.
For the chattering blades, I clean my windshield with 00 steel wool and a detergent like Dawn OR an SOS or Brillo pad with soap in it. And clean the blades with alcohol, ethyl or isopropyl. I prefer ethyl, LOL, and I keep ethyl as a paint thinner product from Lowes. Vodka works but all I keep is Maker's Mark
Barkeepers friend can work also. The pads or Barkeepers Friend remove oils and particles from the glass, the equivilant of clay bar for the windshield.,
I don't mean to leave you guys hanging, but it is super busy at work today. I'll give details later.
How many folks buy plumbing stuff as Christmas gifts?
Apparently, more that I figured.
Anxiously awaiting updates....
I didn't request plumbing supplies but if I showed you the list I made for my family's gift exchange my shopping can basically be done in two aisles at Lowes and one at Target. My brother called it the most boring list he's ever seen.
1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
people around the corner from me have a big hole in the front of their house this morning. 2 guys there installing a new front door package (door and 2 sidelights, so pretty much the width of 2 doors). Seems like an odd time to be doing that.
Heh. Maybe a dozen years ago I had 2 guys here the day after Christmas installing a giant picture window in my living room. The old one had leaked and was rotted so it had to go, and that was the only time they could do it without waiting a couple of weeks..
people around the corner from me have a big hole in the front of their house this morning. 2 guys there installing a new front door package (door and 2 sidelights, so pretty much the width of 2 doors). Seems like an odd time to be doing that.
My wife got a quote from a painter, yesterday. Small interior job. He gave her a price, and said: I can do it tomorrow, if you want. But, if not, it will be a month, because I'm painting an 8000 sq foot house, starting the day after XMAS.
So, he is painting today, and I'll have to write a check for it, just three days before Christmas. So, stuff happens.
A few weeks ago (as you all know), my wife's 2011 Pilot had a slight mishap. After 6 1/2 years and a little over 100,000 miles the alternator gave up (thankfully, in our driveway). I do realize that an alternator and battery are wear items. it did however make me think about upcoming maintenance (timing belt, tensioner, water pump, spark plugs, brake fluid, transmission fluid, coolant flush, differential fluid), any potential repairs (front axles) and anything else that is due to wear out in the next year (tires & struts). Then I asked @qbrozen how much he thought our Pilot was worth. $10,000 - $10,500.
I thought to myself that $10K could go towards a nice home improvement project. If I could find a 3 row SUV that leases well (high residual, low money factor, big discount off sticker) for 36 months/15K miles per year that I would "cash out" and get my wife a new SUV. This is the part of the story where I hear Craig (@isellhondas) screaming into my ear. "It isn't a good deal if the car isn't the right car." I started poking my head into the leasing threads. Some of them have money factors damn close to ZERO (Durango, Explorer), others have lots of lease cash (Sorrento), while others have very strong (inflated) residuals (Highlander XLE). I even checked out the MDX. The biggest problem with many of these is that there isn't a whole helluva lot of room in the 3rd row and with the 3rd row "up," you can't fit much more than a duffel bag behind it.
Pilot leases stink. Their residuals are average (54% for an AWD Touring) and the money factor is extremely high at .0021 which equates to 5.04%. Lease payments came out to a little under $600 per month ($0 down, taxes & acq fee rolled in). For comparison, a Highlander XLE would have been about $416 per month.
I got a message from @28firefighter who found out that there's a credit union on Long Island that will lease out Pilots at a much more palatable 57% residual and money factor equal to 3.something percent. The payments would have worked out to be about $120 per month less. Great! Where do I sign? Not so fast. In order to qualify for that lease, the vehicle must be registered in New York State. Back to the drawing board.
I call up the Sales Manager from Mt Kisco Honda, about 1/2 hour away from me in Westchester County, NY ($75 capped doc fees & no conveyance fees). He recently made an excellent, easy deal for my best friend who bought a Fit as a delivery car. I tell him what I'm looking for (2017 Pilot Touring AWD in Obsidian Blue). He quotes me a below invoice price right off the bat, tells me the SUV is not in stock but he can get it. He asks me what I'm trading in and how much I'm looking to get for it (2011 Polished Metal Metallic 4WD Pilot EXL w/ Navigation, $10,500). He tells me that sounds right, but it might be a little high. I'll have to see your trade.
I ran the Pilot through the car wash yesterday AM, spent about an hour with some compound and my orbital on the hood and front 1/4 panels, drove up there after work. Done! We pick it up Saturday.
I took the 0.9% financing for 60 months and put the $10,500 down. Thanks for listening to me. I appreciate all of your support.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Congrats, Bradd! I think you made a good call here. Even with the CU lease rates, its still not a great lease and I think you'll come out ahead having bought it. Sounds like it was an easy deal and that is worth something, too.
Pilot will be on our short list when we need a larger family truckster.
2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
I'm glad you mentioned how easy the deal was to make. Here's the best part. I was talking to the sales manager and asked him if they had a demo that I could drive home to see if it fits in my garage.
"Yes. Of course. When would you like me to have a salesman bring it to your house?"
With the tail gate up, there is maybe 1" clearance between it and the top of the garage.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Congrats Bradd, sounds like the deal fell right into place for you and as 28FF noted that's always a plus. Very anxious to hear a review once you've had time to adjust to it. If we go with a 3 row SUV the Pilot would definitely be on the list.
1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
I have a one day trip to the Bay Area planned for next month. I'm choosing not to rent a car as the time needed to pick up and drop off will cut into my schedule.
I've set up both Uber and Lyft on my work phone. I've gotten feedback that Lyft is more, um, 'socially responsible'.
But, wanted to get first hand feedback from actual users. Is there really a difference?
people around the corner from me have a big hole in the front of their house this morning. 2 guys there installing a new front door package (door and 2 sidelights, so pretty much the width of 2 doors). Seems like an odd time to be doing that.
We just had a new front door and side door installed yesterday; we ordered it a couple of months ago and it was only just received by the installers a couple of weeks ago.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Congratulations! It always looked to me like the Pilot was the right vehicle for you, it was just a matter of price. Glad you could make it work. I think you will be very happy to have a new vehicle that’s under warranty.
A few weeks ago (as you all know), my wife's 2011 Pilot had a slight mishap. After 6 1/2 years and a little over 100,000 miles the alternator gave up (thankfully, in our driveway). I do realize that an alternator and battery are wear items. it did however make me think about upcoming maintenance (timing belt, tensioner, water pump, spark plugs, brake fluid, transmission fluid, coolant flush, differential fluid), any potential repairs (front axles) and anything else that is due to wear out in the next year (tires & struts). Then I asked @qbrozen how much he thought our Pilot was worth. $10,000 - $10,500.
I thought to myself that $10K could go towards a nice home improvement project. If I could find a 3 row SUV that leases well (high residual, low money factor, big discount off sticker) for 36 months/15K miles per year that I would "cash out" and get my wife a new SUV. This is the part of the story where I hear Craig (@isellhondas) screaming into my ear. "It isn't a good deal if the car isn't the right car." I started poking my head into the leasing threads. Some of them have money factors damn close to ZERO (Durango, Explorer), others have lots of lease cash (Sorrento), while others have very strong (inflated) residuals (Highlander XLE). I even checked out the MDX. The biggest problem with many of these is that there isn't a whole helluva lot of room in the 3rd row and with the 3rd row "up," you can't fit much more than a duffel bag behind it.
Pilot leases stink. Their residuals are average (54% for an AWD Touring) and the money factor is extremely high at .0021 which equates to 5.04%. Lease payments came out to a little under $600 per month ($0 down, taxes & acq fee rolled in). For comparison, a Highlander XLE would have been about $416 per month.
I got a message from @28firefighter who found out that there's a credit union on Long Island that will lease out Pilots at a much more palatable 57% residual and money factor equal to 3.something percent. The payments would have worked out to be about $120 per month less. Great! Where do I sign? Not so fast. In order to qualify for that lease, the vehicle must be registered in New York State. Back to the drawing board.
I call up the Sales Manager from Mt Kisco Honda, about 1/2 hour away from me in Westchester County, NY ($75 capped doc fees & no conveyance fees). He recently made an excellent, easy deal for my best friend who bought a Fit as a delivery car. I tell him what I'm looking for (2017 Pilot Touring AWD in Obsidian Blue). He quotes me a below invoice price right off the bat, tells me the SUV is not in stock but he can get it. He asks me what I'm trading in and how much I'm looking to get for it (2011 Polished Metal Metallic 4WD Pilot EXL w/ Navigation, $10,500). He tells me that sounds right, but it might be a little high. I'll have to see your trade.
I ran the Pilot through the car wash yesterday AM, spent about an hour with some compound and my orbital on the hood and front 1/4 panels, drove up there after work. Done! We pick it up Saturday.
I took the 0.9% financing for 60 months and put the $10,500 down. Thanks for listening to me. I appreciate all of your support.
But I believe that was my number AFTER you fixed it, right? So if you got that with the needs it has, you did great.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
New set of Nokian WR G3s went on the EV yesterday. The LRR tires it came with get slippy when the temps drop, so much so that my wife started wanting to drive the Volvo. And she hates that car. So new tires it is. Still funny to see 'Made in Finland' written on anything...
Sweet! Please offer an update at the end of the season!
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
I don't mean to leave you guys hanging, but it is super busy at work today. I'll give details later.
How many folks buy plumbing stuff as Christmas gifts?
Apparently, more that I figured.
Anxiously awaiting updates....
"Oh, a new flush valve. Thank you, honey!"
Hey, some of us are quite practical folk! And, you only under-appreciate the significance of a flush valve until it doesn't work properly after Christmas dinner....
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
Picking it up on Shabbat I see, lol!!! Hope the interior is either gray or beige but betting it's gray. Have been driving a few Infiniti Q40's and Q50's this week at work and like them. Took only a few minutes to learn the HVAC and infotainment details and the power is pretty brisk when one hits the pedal. Got up to speed on the Florida Turnpike quickly and it was fun, could easily see it as a d d in the future. But, how dismal are the mpg's? Averaging a solid 30 mpg on my Golf with just under 37,400 and a fresh batch of synthetic oil, VW approved. I know on the highway I'm getting a good 38 with the a/c off and keeping the speedo at around 65 so not to unhappy. It's that 60 mile round trip for work, 3 days/week that's using almost a 3/8 of a tank, around a half with the a/c cranking. Unfortunately, the two cold snaps that came through didn't last more than a few days so we had to turn the a/c back on. Our house is cbs construction so it does hold the cold a few days which is nice. Just wish the heat would dissipate for a couple of months, after living here 48 years, I've really had enough! Mt. Kisco, not to far from where I grew up. A shame the cost of living has skyrocketed so much since the mid 1960's as I'd love to move back for a bit.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Let me be the first to wish everyone a "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas" depending on who celebrates what. I have always used "Happy Holidays" since I was a kid so as not to offend because not quite sure who does what. This way, am covered on all the bases. 2017 has been an interesting year with more positives than negatives at least for our family. Am hoping that 2018 brings only positive things for us all. It's been a real treat being part of this wonderful group of individuals for these past many years. My favorite website bar none is Edmunds.com and this particular forum. The first place I go in the morning, the last place before bed. I thank you all for keeping CCBA such a fun place to come. Most have never met but feel like we all know each other if that makes any sense at all. Stay well and be happy folks...motor on!!!
I am, and always will be,
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Congrats, Bradd! I think the Jetta Sportwagen was the only tailgate that I could fully open in my tiny garage. The Murano, Yukon, and Tahoe all fit, but the tailgate would hit the garage door when it's open.
Am I right that this is the first purchase since abacomike bought an S450 on 11/10? breld didn't sneak a punch in?
Wife and I did some last minute Christmas shopping today. Stopped in the Tesla store in the mall. Okay, I’m still not a fan of the exterior of the Model X, but seeing it up close in the showroom and sitting in the drivers seat...that’s a pretty cool machine.
We both really liked what we saw (wife likes the good ol’ Model S) but agreed we liked them the same way we like a new Apple product. Very cool technology that redefines how you think of a normal activity, but it’s not driving in the sense that we enjoy it. At least that’s my impression without having actually driven one.
Still debating an offer on the 330e. If I ended up with the deal I want, I’d save close to $100/month for a car that lists at double what the GTI listed for. The 14 mile range on all electric would cover most of my daily activities and the hybrid function would dramatically improve my fuel economy for other driving.
Not to mention, the extra space inside.
2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
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Anxious to hear the details on what happened.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Barkeepers friend can work also. The pads or Barkeepers Friend remove oils and particles from the glass, the equivilant of clay bar for the windshield.,
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
So, he is painting today, and I'll have to write a check for it, just three days before Christmas. So, stuff happens.
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I thought to myself that $10K could go towards a nice home improvement project. If I could find a 3 row SUV that leases well (high residual, low money factor, big discount off sticker) for 36 months/15K miles per year that I would "cash out" and get my wife a new SUV. This is the part of the story where I hear Craig (@isellhondas) screaming into my ear. "It isn't a good deal if the car isn't the right car." I started poking my head into the leasing threads. Some of them have money factors damn close to ZERO (Durango, Explorer), others have lots of lease cash (Sorrento), while others have very strong (inflated) residuals (Highlander XLE). I even checked out the MDX. The biggest problem with many of these is that there isn't a whole helluva lot of room in the 3rd row and with the 3rd row "up," you can't fit much more than a duffel bag behind it.
Pilot leases stink. Their residuals are average (54% for an AWD Touring) and the money factor is extremely high at .0021 which equates to 5.04%. Lease payments came out to a little under $600 per month ($0 down, taxes & acq fee rolled in). For comparison, a Highlander XLE would have been about $416 per month.
I got a message from @28firefighter who found out that there's a credit union on Long Island that will lease out Pilots at a much more palatable 57% residual and money factor equal to 3.something percent. The payments would have worked out to be about $120 per month less. Great! Where do I sign? Not so fast. In order to qualify for that lease, the vehicle must be registered in New York State. Back to the drawing board.
I call up the Sales Manager from Mt Kisco Honda, about 1/2 hour away from me in Westchester County, NY ($75 capped doc fees & no conveyance fees). He recently made an excellent, easy deal for my best friend who bought a Fit as a delivery car. I tell him what I'm looking for (2017 Pilot Touring AWD in Obsidian Blue). He quotes me a below invoice price right off the bat, tells me the SUV is not in stock but he can get it. He asks me what I'm trading in and how much I'm looking to get for it (2011 Polished Metal Metallic 4WD Pilot EXL w/ Navigation, $10,500). He tells me that sounds right, but it might be a little high. I'll have to see your trade.
I ran the Pilot through the car wash yesterday AM, spent about an hour with some compound and my orbital on the hood and front 1/4 panels, drove up there after work. Done! We pick it up Saturday.
I took the 0.9% financing for 60 months and put the $10,500 down. Thanks for listening to me. I appreciate all of your support.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
The 1st time I'me buying the same make and model "back to back." This is my 1st "2 punch year."
My name is Bradd and I'm a Chronic Car Buyer
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Pilot will be on our short list when we need a larger family truckster.
"Yes. Of course. When would you like me to have a salesman bring it to your house?"
With the tail gate up, there is maybe 1" clearance between it and the top of the garage.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Glad it fell into place for you. Pilot is a nice rig!
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
On the 1st night of Chanukah Bradd gave to me, a battery for our SUV
On the 2nd night of Hanukkah Bradd gave to me, an alternator (and a battery for our SUV)
On the 3rd night of Chanukah Bradd gave to me, a new dishwasher (an alternator and a battery for our SUV)
On the 4th night of Chanukah Bradd gave to me, a robot vacuum cleaner (a new dishwasher, an alternator, and a battery for our SUV)
On the 5th night of Chanukah Bradd gave to me, a pair of UGG boots...
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
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I leased 3 E-class in a row, but they were all different engine variants, so I count that as different cars
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
- Ray
Not going to punch before THIS year end ...
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Mt. Kisco, not to far from where I grew up. A shame the cost of living has skyrocketed so much since the mid 1960's as I'd love to move back for a bit.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
It's been a real treat being part of this wonderful group of individuals for these past many years. My favorite website bar none is Edmunds.com and this particular forum. The first place I go in the morning, the last place before bed. I thank you all for keeping CCBA such a fun place to come. Most have never met but feel like we all know each other if that makes any sense at all.
Stay well and be happy folks...motor on!!!
I am, and always will be,
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Am I right that this is the first purchase since abacomike bought an S450 on 11/10? breld didn't sneak a punch in?
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Anyone else going to fit one in under the wire?
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
We both really liked what we saw (wife likes the good ol’ Model S) but agreed we liked them the same way we like a new Apple product. Very cool technology that redefines how you think of a normal activity, but it’s not driving in the sense that we enjoy it. At least that’s my impression without having actually driven one.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Remind me? Is it still the good deal on the outback?
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Not to mention, the extra space inside.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman