Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

50 yards? We use 3. You own a golf course or something?

fintail

Yeah probably costs as much as a townhouse not even west of 405, even with the garage-mahal. I seem to recall he had a different mcmansion in the past, too.

I did 3 minutes of digging - apparently his uncle has a sizable restaurant franchise holding, specifically in "Freddy's Frozen Custard", which kind of resembles Culver's, and of course isn't in WA (this is the kind of unhealthy food that I love, and I'd patronize it now and then if in my area). I am not knocking Hoovie, as I enjoy his content and he's the big name YT car person I watch most, and I also suspect this specific entertainment has some startup costs that might not be possible for many. I don't think the exotic money pit car business is rescuing anyone off the street Now that he's in the bigtime, no doubt the YT revenue will keep things going, not to mention dorks probably bidding up his cars for what they see as provenance.

I like Car Wizard too, for his very mellow presentation, seems like a very honest indy shop, in a way reminds me of the MB specialist I have patronized since I moved here.

28firefighter said:

Hoovie used to be in the car business himself - sold them, then was a dealer himself and was not very good at either. Then he got into the restaurant business with family (I think) and got into writing for Jalopnik and now Oversteer after connecting with Doug DeMuro. That led to his YouTube channel which, given his 1M+ followers and sponsors, generates significant revenue to fund his habits - probably low-mid six figures (or more) annually depending on the engagement audience, sponsors, etc.

Also remember he lives outside of Kansas City, so the crazy house and garage probably does not cost what you think it does.

qbrozen

breld said:

I’ll be making up for lost miles on the Volvo this week - heading out to Salt Lake City later this morning for a baseball tournament.

Couldn’t quite fit the luggage and baseball gear in the Supra.

hey, what happend to my inspection? lol!

stickguy

Benjamin, I might buy it. But since I got backed into, might have a dirty car fax! Just not sure I want something that big, but yes, it will be a nice, low mile car. But might be cheaper to pick up a different CPO instead. I think my residual is $21.5. Plus, I would probably get a tech instead of an A spec, if cheaper.

Most likely I go a different direction, but right now, impossible to predict what will make sense, in terms of usage. Might not need anything more than a little local runabout for 1-2k miles per year. If so, a small PU could be perfect, and/or a sports car to go with it. But odds are, I don’t need a large luxury sedan for that much money OTD (gotta add tax and DMV/doc fees to the residual, so pushing $25k in the end).

oldfarmer50

mjfloyd1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

You folks missed the boat on this wagon. Failed to meet reserve I’m guessing.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9nbW8GPJ/1994-land-rover-defender-6-wheeler

I spotted that, but ignored it since I don’t give tours at the Six Flags Safari.

But just think how many bags of mulch you could haul!

I had 15 yards of mulch delivered Friday and 15 more yards today. Hired teenagers to put it down. Still have 20 more yards coming. My back thanks me for hiring teenagers

Where the heck are you that you can get teenagers to actually....you know....work?

qbrozen

uh-oh. I think I just got blackballed from yet another dealer. LOL. Response to my first offer was within 15 mins. It has been an hour since my reply and we have radio silence.

tjc78

Probably their first and last customer to be using live auction data.

qbrozen

it is what it is. They want it more than I do, I guess. lol.
I can just move to the next one. Has more miles, but better service history in carfax and it is black, which I prefer on this vehicle. Interior is still light, so that's good. A lot of pluses other than the miles (84k). Not to mention, lower asking price, so that claim "this is the cheapest" was (of course) horse droppings.

Sandman6472

Golf is fixed and my wallet is $350 lighter. It was a lower valve cover gasket as I recall, the receipt is out in the car. No more leak as of this morning. He did say the axle boots are leaking a bit and will need to be done, eventually but not something that needs immediate attention. Works for me as I don't want to put anymore money into it. Hoping to just keep it and start looking for it's replacement.
Still intrigued with the Buick Encore GX and saw the review on YouTube yesterday. Just need to go drive one. The regular Encore is o k, doesn't do much for me. But the GX seems to hit the mark. The Mazda CX-30 is interesting also except the wonkey audio system, not a fan of the center console controls to be honest. But think a drive is called for just to compare it to the Encore GX. Have driven many Kona's at work and not a fan, would like the Elantra GT better. The Seltos is still in the short list. So, we'll see what happens in the next few weeks.
As long as there's no more drama and the axle boots behave themselves, the Golf will stay but if I find something compelling, all bets are off and I'd trade with no looking back. Would love to get some of this 0% financing for once, so we'll just start looking and see.

Sandman6472

Had our orientation meeting this morning in West Palm and we start back tomorrow morning! Unfortunately, our team will not be a team for awhile. Depending on the vehicle, there will be a lead driver and either 3 or 5 drivers. Masks and gloves will be worn plus temps will be taken twice a day just for safety. Luckily I still have the same T-W-F schedule but a bit unhappy we're going to be split up. I did mention that a few of us have bonded nicely and work well together. He said he'd do what he could but for awhile, just go with the flow which doesn't please me but I'll sit back and be a team player to start. But think it behooves them to keep us together if possible as we do work well as a team.
Luckily, we still meet at the office right near where we live. We'll just clock in at the first location we stop at...and do the same on the way home at night. In time, think it'll all work out but for now, just doing things day by day. The big guy talked to us individually after the HR guy did his presentation. He wanted me to start as soon as possible so tomorrow at 7:30, we're backkkk! Definitely time, and right now, no Sunday work available but, he said in time, Sundays would resume and he assured me I'd be asked back once that happens. So that was good news. Just working with a new team will be the issue, but trying to be optimistic that it'll work out fine.
Did the unemployment up through the 13th and it's pending, as usual. So, all I'll need to do is put in for today, unless they ask me to work Thursday, which would give me my normal 3 days, the amount of days I was hired for. And if I do work Thursday, that's good to and no more UI paperwork!

kyfdx

mjfloyd1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

You folks missed the boat on this wagon. Failed to meet reserve I’m guessing.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9nbW8GPJ/1994-land-rover-defender-6-wheeler

I spotted that, but ignored it since I don’t give tours at the Six Flags Safari.

But just think how many bags of mulch you could haul!

I had 15 yards of mulch delivered Friday and 15 more yards today. Hired teenagers to put it down. Still have 20 more yards coming. My back thanks me for hiring teenagers

I have a guy...

benjaminh

https://www.autonews.com/

Since I'm not a subscriber I can't read the story, but the videos on youtube have been telling this story.

qbrozen

ya know, I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think maybe there is a mistake in your listing, sir.

stickguy

so, how many miles on that patio?

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

Had our orientation meeting this morning in West Palm and we start back tomorrow morning! Unfortunately, our team will not be a team for awhile. Depending on the vehicle, there will be a lead driver and either 3 or 5 drivers. Masks and gloves will be worn plus temps will be taken twice a day just for safety. Luckily I still have the same T-W-F schedule but a bit unhappy we're going to be split up. I did mention that a few of us have bonded nicely and work well together. He said he'd do what he could but for awhile, just go with the flow which doesn't please me but I'll sit back and be a team player to start. But think it behooves them to keep us together if possible as we do work well as a team.
Luckily, we still meet at the office right near where we live. We'll just clock in at the first location we stop at...and do the same on the way home at night. In time, think it'll all work out but for now, just doing things day by day. The big guy talked to us individually after the HR guy did his presentation. He wanted me to start as soon as possible so tomorrow at 7:30, we're backkkk! Definitely time, and right now, no Sunday work available but, he said in time, Sundays would resume and he assured me I'd be asked back once that happens. So that was good news. Just working with a new team will be the issue, but trying to be optimistic that it'll work out fine.
Did the unemployment up through the 13th and it's pending, as usual. So, all I'll need to do is put in for today, unless they ask me to work Thursday, which would give me my normal 3 days, the amount of days I was hired for. And if I do work Thursday, that's good to and no more UI paperwork!

Good news Sandy. I talked to our HR up here and was told I’m ten away from being called back (seniority based) so I’m hoping in a few weeks if the powers to be get tired of playing games.

corvette

qbrozen said:

it is what it is. They want it more than I do, I guess. lol.
I can just move to the next one. Has more miles, but better service history in carfax and it is black, which I prefer on this vehicle. Interior is still light, so that's good. A lot of pluses other than the miles (84k). Not to mention, lower asking price, so that claim "this is the cheapest" was (of course) horse droppings.

Send them the listing once you’ve taken delivery of it.

qbrozen said:

ya know, I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think maybe there is a mistake in your listing, sir.

Seems likes fair price for a patio. Not sure about the car, though.

benjaminh

This guy is a chronic buyer and flipper. He takes a trashed $300 2001 Civic EX with 222,000 miles and the original spark plugs, works on it for a day—putting a few hundred dollars of parts into it—and then sells it the next day for $1250.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIHS_PK4Qw

corvette

Sounds like it might be fool's errand to me - what did he net after a day's worth of sweat and buying all those parts?

qbrozen

benjaminh said:

This guy is a chronic buyer and flipper. He takes a trashed $300 2001 Civic EX with 222,000 miles and the original spark plugs, works on it for a day—putting a few hundred dollars of parts into it—and then sells it the next day for $1250.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIHS_PK4Qw

So he tries to recreate wheeler dealers.

breld

qbrozen said:

breld said:

I’ll be making up for lost miles on the Volvo this week - heading out to Salt Lake City later this morning for a baseball tournament.

Couldn’t quite fit the luggage and baseball gear in the Supra.

hey, what happend to my inspection? lol!

I’m only a third of our CO contingency (not even counting @dad23) - you’re in good hands if you’d like the inspection before I return!

oldfarmer50

benjaminh said:

This guy is a chronic buyer and flipper. He takes a trashed $300 2001 Civic EX with 222,000 miles and the original spark plugs, works on it for a day—putting a few hundred dollars of parts into it—and then sells it the next day for $1250.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIHS_PK4Qw

His stuff is interesting. He just did one where he bought an 86’ Mitsubishi pick up. Dodge sold them as D-50s. The thing was a true survivor (24k miles). He did a tune up and sent it down the road.

It was interesting because I almost bought one in 1986 but went with a Toyota instead. Big mistake in retrospect.

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

Sounds like it might be fool's errand to me - what did he net after a day's worth of sweat and buying all those parts?

A million YouTube views.

kyfdx

corvette said:

Sounds like it might be fool's errand to me - what did he net after a day's worth of sweat and buying all those parts?

$500/day is pretty decent money.

stickguy

Probably closer to $700. Not a bad gig.

breld

Anyone aware of premature warping of rotors on Volvos? Based on a quick search, it seems that may be an issue.

On the way here to Utah, there were two times when I was descending a long hill on the highway and when I would brake to slow, the car would shudder noticeably. I had felt it once at highway speeds on a previous roadtrip a couple weeks ago too, but dismissed it.

I'm considering calling the local Volvo dealer to take a look while I'm here, but maybe that's an overreaction and I can just wait until my next appointment back home.

graphicguy

oldfarmer50 said:

benjaminh said:

This guy is a chronic buyer and flipper. He takes a trashed $300 2001 Civic EX with 222,000 miles and the original spark plugs, works on it for a day—putting a few hundred dollars of parts into it—and then sells it the next day for $1250.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIHS_PK4Qw

His stuff is interesting. He just did one where he bought an 86’ Mitsubishi pick up. Dodge sold them as D-50s. The thing was a true survivor (24k miles). He did a tune up and sent it down the road.

It was interesting because I almost bought one in 1986 but went with a Toyota instead. Big mistake in retrospect.

He is interesting. He’s “watchjrgo” on YouTube. Talented guy. His back story was his wrenching was a hobby. He was working for a tech company until they fired him for the YouTube videos he posted. So, he went full time on YouTube. Smart guy. No drama. I think he does make some money from fixing flipping cars, but like the rest of these automotive YouTubers, the real money is via ads on YouTube.

mjfloyd1

stickguy said:

50 yards? We use 3. You own a golf course or something?

5 acres with lots of plant beds.

High school graduates who can’t get jobs due to coronavirus are wanting to work before they go off to college

stickguy

breld said:

Anyone aware of premature warping of rotors on Volvos? Based on a quick search, it seems that may be an issue.

On the way here to Utah, there were two times when I was descending a long hill on the highway and when I would brake to slow, the car would shudder noticeably. I had felt it once at highway speeds on a previous roadtrip a couple weeks ago too, but dismissed it.

I'm considering calling the local Volvo dealer to take a look while I'm here, but maybe that's an overreaction and I can just wait until my next appointment back home.

From form reading (I’m still subscribed to Swedespeed for some reason) brakes go early and I don’t think warped rotors is uncommon. But should not happen at your low miles. Should be fine waiting until you get home. But definitely good to get looked at so on the record early.

breld

Thanks @stickguy.

I'll save the jokers here some time..."Beware of premature brake wear AND clutch wear from the Breld family."

tjc78

Yeah, it’s a thing. I could have sworn I noticed a bit yesterday as well. I think I have a tire slightly out of balance as well so it could be that too.

Warped rotors should be covered under warranty. Both of my Enclaves had the issue and was fixed no charge.

qbrozen

breld said:

Anyone aware of premature warping of rotors on Volvos? Based on a quick search, it seems that may be an issue.

On the way here to Utah, there were two times when I was descending a long hill on the highway and when I would brake to slow, the car would shudder noticeably. I had felt it once at highway speeds on a previous roadtrip a couple weeks ago too, but dismissed it.

I'm considering calling the local Volvo dealer to take a look while I'm here, but maybe that's an overreaction and I can just wait until my next appointment back home.

It is because you have owned it too long.

breld

qbrozen said:

breld said:

Anyone aware of premature warping of rotors on Volvos? Based on a quick search, it seems that may be an issue.

On the way here to Utah, there were two times when I was descending a long hill on the highway and when I would brake to slow, the car would shudder noticeably. I had felt it once at highway speeds on a previous roadtrip a couple weeks ago too, but dismissed it.

I'm considering calling the local Volvo dealer to take a look while I'm here, but maybe that's an overreaction and I can just wait until my next appointment back home.

It is because you have owned it too long.

Well, that's really the reason why I wanted to go to the local dealer. Do some shopping!

oldfarmer50

breld said:

Anyone aware of premature warping of rotors on Volvos? Based on a quick search, it seems that may be an issue.

On the way here to Utah, there were two times when I was descending a long hill on the highway and when I would brake to slow, the car would shudder noticeably. I had felt it once at highway speeds on a previous roadtrip a couple weeks ago too, but dismissed it.

I'm considering calling the local Volvo dealer to take a look while I'm here, but maybe that's an overreaction and I can just wait until my next appointment back home.

My PT Cruiser was notorious for that. Every 10k miles or so. My indie guy blamed it on Chinese made rotors that NAPA supplied to him. Was your Volvo made in China or were the rotors?

The symptoms you describe match mine exactly. Other than the annoying shudder it didn’t seem to be a safety issue.

breld

There’s some good potential here...go in for some new rotors, come away with something...Italian?

oldfarmer50

graphicguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

benjaminh said:

This guy is a chronic buyer and flipper. He takes a trashed $300 2001 Civic EX with 222,000 miles and the original spark plugs, works on it for a day—putting a few hundred dollars of parts into it—and then sells it the next day for $1250.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIHS_PK4Qw

His stuff is interesting. He just did one where he bought an 86’ Mitsubishi pick up. Dodge sold them as D-50s. The thing was a true survivor (24k miles). He did a tune up and sent it down the road.

It was interesting because I almost bought one in 1986 but went with a Toyota instead. Big mistake in retrospect.

He is interesting. He’s “watchjrgo” on YouTube. Talented guy. His back story was his wrenching was a hobby. He was working for a tech company until they fired him for the YouTube videos he posted. So, he went full time on YouTube. Smart guy. No drama. I think he does make some money from fixing flipping cars, but like the rest of these automotive YouTubers, the real money is via ads on YouTube.

He had an on again off again relationship with a cute blonde who appeared in his videos. While she provided some nice eye candy I wasn’t that much into soap operas to learn that back story.

stickguy

Amberghini. Cute nickname.

benjaminh

I'm over 28k on my TLX with 12 months to go on the 36.3k lease....

tjc78

@breld
I wonder how buried in your Volvo you are? Mine was staggering!

28firefighter

Warping brake rotors? Sheesh.

graphicguy

benjaminh said:

I'm over 28k on my TLX with 12 months to go on the 36.3k lease....

I don't lease, but I think I read in here somewhere that Acura will allow for "over mileage" on a lease if you lease another Acura. Not sure of the number of miles you can go over, though. Might be a good reason to wait until the 2021 TLX hits the streets.

ab348

28firefighter said:

Warping brake rotors? Sheesh.

Time to trade, unquestionably.

stickguy

8k miles left sounds like plenty in this new normal! Just use the other car more if need be. Of course, not an issue if you lease a replacement Acura, or buy it out.

qbrozen

black ML550 in Atlanta sold. These are going surprisingly quick.

corvette

breld said:

There’s some good potential here...go in for some new rotors, come away with something...Italian?

Just pop in the jewelry store to pick up an apology gift for the missus. It’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission, after all.

andres3

breld said:

corvette said:

@nyccarguy to me, a GTI would be very close in spirit to the Prelude. Even the five door has very small dimensions, by modern standards. I know when I bought the GLI, the equivalent GTI was priced a couple grand higher, and all you got feature-wise on the hatchback was real leather vs. fake leather on the GLI, which wasn't enough to sway me.

I’m sure you’d love a GTI - hard not to. But I don’t know if there’s much of any current vehicle that captures the spirit of your Prelude, at least in the sense of a high-revving n/a engine. Maybe a BRZ/86? I actually thought of testing out one of those, but just never got around to it, and now since it’s about to be updated, I figured it wouldn’t capture my attention for long.

S2000?

andres3

breld said:

corvette said:

@nyccarguy to me, a GTI would be very close in spirit to the Prelude. Even the five door has very small dimensions, by modern standards. I know when I bought the GLI, the equivalent GTI was priced a couple grand higher, and all you got feature-wise on the hatchback was real leather vs. fake leather on the GLI, which wasn't enough to sway me.

I’m sure you’d love a GTI - hard not to. But I don’t know if there’s much of any current vehicle that captures the spirit of your Prelude, at least in the sense of a high-revving n/a engine. Maybe a BRZ/86? I actually thought of testing out one of those, but just never got around to it, and now since it’s about to be updated, I figured it wouldn’t capture my attention for long.

S2000?

andres3

breld said:

corvette said:

@nyccarguy to me, a GTI would be very close in spirit to the Prelude. Even the five door has very small dimensions, by modern standards. I know when I bought the GLI, the equivalent GTI was priced a couple grand higher, and all you got feature-wise on the hatchback was real leather vs. fake leather on the GLI, which wasn't enough to sway me.

I’m sure you’d love a GTI - hard not to. But I don’t know if there’s much of any current vehicle that captures the spirit of your Prelude, at least in the sense of a high-revving n/a engine. Maybe a BRZ/86? I actually thought of testing out one of those, but just never got around to it, and now since it’s about to be updated, I figured it wouldn’t capture my attention for long.

Type R?

andres3

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

At the current pace we might break 4,000 miles on the RDX by its first birthday. And the TLX will definitely be under miles when the lease is done. Who knows, maybe the new compact will be out by then, and I’ll fall in love. Or I buy a CPO.

It's a useful benefit that Acura allows the rollover of extra miles into a new lease. That new smaller Acura is going to be interesting, and it should be out by the time your TLX lease is up in Nov. (??) of 2021. But if your TLX is way under in miles buying it out might be a good deal too. I mean where else could you find a nearly new TLX with c. 20k miles for c. 20k? For less than the price of a base Civic that's a tough deal to beat.

I'm about 95% sure at this point I'm going to keep my TLX. When you push the FWD TLX around tight corners with a bit of speed it feels almost like you're riding on rails, which is fun. The 4-wheel steering is excellent imho, and since we know PAWS is dead for future Acura vehicles, and hasn't been offered in the past much since the Prelude in the 80s and 90s, I feel like that makes this car something special, and maybe something to hang on to.

But the power and the style of the new TLX do have some appeal for me, and for the heck of it I'll probably test drive the 2021 TLX in 8 or 9 months. But the size of the new TLX is a drawback. I just don't think I want a car that long or that wide. But I'd be interested to feel how it drives with the double wishbone suspension, that engine, the NSX brakes, the new variable radio steering system, etc.

One thing I feel mixed about in the new TLX is the rear window treatment. As I know from experience, these kind of back window are not as good for rear visibility behind the driver as the current TLX or most BMW sedans. But driving my wife's CR-V has forced me to get better at using the mirrors, and so it might not be the deal breaker it once was.

Needs big Type R/S wing! LOL. The A-Spec looks better, as usual. Not a fan of the wheels.

Being a Honda/Acura, they need to blast the HP number out of the park on the Type S. 400 HP would make for good marketing.

Michaell

andres3 said:

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

At the current pace we might break 4,000 miles on the RDX by its first birthday. And the TLX will definitely be under miles when the lease is done. Who knows, maybe the new compact will be out by then, and I’ll fall in love. Or I buy a CPO.

It's a useful benefit that Acura allows the rollover of extra miles into a new lease. That new smaller Acura is going to be interesting, and it should be out by the time your TLX lease is up in Nov. (??) of 2021. But if your TLX is way under in miles buying it out might be a good deal too. I mean where else could you find a nearly new TLX with c. 20k miles for c. 20k? For less than the price of a base Civic that's a tough deal to beat.

I'm about 95% sure at this point I'm going to keep my TLX. When you push the FWD TLX around tight corners with a bit of speed it feels almost like you're riding on rails, which is fun. The 4-wheel steering is excellent imho, and since we know PAWS is dead for future Acura vehicles, and hasn't been offered in the past much since the Prelude in the 80s and 90s, I feel like that makes this car something special, and maybe something to hang on to.

But the power and the style of the new TLX do have some appeal for me, and for the heck of it I'll probably test drive the 2021 TLX in 8 or 9 months. But the size of the new TLX is a drawback. I just don't think I want a car that long or that wide. But I'd be interested to feel how it drives with the double wishbone suspension, that engine, the NSX brakes, the new variable radio steering system, etc.

One thing I feel mixed about in the new TLX is the rear window treatment. As I know from experience, these kind of back window are not as good for rear visibility behind the driver as the current TLX or most BMW sedans. But driving my wife's CR-V has forced me to get better at using the mirrors, and so it might not be the deal breaker it once was.

Needs big Type R/S wing! LOL. The A-Spec looks better, as usual. Not a fan of the wheels.

Being a Honda/Acura, they need to blast the HP number out of the park on the Type S. 400 HP would make for good marketing.

Infiniti Red Sport (Q50 or Q60) has 400HP and it isn't setting the world on fire with its sales numbers....

andres3

Michaell said:

andres3 said:

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

At the current pace we might break 4,000 miles on the RDX by its first birthday. And the TLX will definitely be under miles when the lease is done. Who knows, maybe the new compact will be out by then, and I’ll fall in love. Or I buy a CPO.

It's a useful benefit that Acura allows the rollover of extra miles into a new lease. That new smaller Acura is going to be interesting, and it should be out by the time your TLX lease is up in Nov. (??) of 2021. But if your TLX is way under in miles buying it out might be a good deal too. I mean where else could you find a nearly new TLX with c. 20k miles for c. 20k? For less than the price of a base Civic that's a tough deal to beat.

I'm about 95% sure at this point I'm going to keep my TLX. When you push the FWD TLX around tight corners with a bit of speed it feels almost like you're riding on rails, which is fun. The 4-wheel steering is excellent imho, and since we know PAWS is dead for future Acura vehicles, and hasn't been offered in the past much since the Prelude in the 80s and 90s, I feel like that makes this car something special, and maybe something to hang on to.

But the power and the style of the new TLX do have some appeal for me, and for the heck of it I'll probably test drive the 2021 TLX in 8 or 9 months. But the size of the new TLX is a drawback. I just don't think I want a car that long or that wide. But I'd be interested to feel how it drives with the double wishbone suspension, that engine, the NSX brakes, the new variable radio steering system, etc.

One thing I feel mixed about in the new TLX is the rear window treatment. As I know from experience, these kind of back window are not as good for rear visibility behind the driver as the current TLX or most BMW sedans. But driving my wife's CR-V has forced me to get better at using the mirrors, and so it might not be the deal breaker it once was.

Needs big Type R/S wing! LOL. The A-Spec looks better, as usual. Not a fan of the wheels.

Being a Honda/Acura, they need to blast the HP number out of the park on the Type S. 400 HP would make for good marketing.

Infiniti Red Sport (Q50 or Q60) has 400HP and it isn't setting the world on fire with its sales numbers....

The rumor is those cars handle terribly, and they do weigh over 2 tons last I checked I think. I didn't drive one because in coupe form the roof is too low, the seat too high, which means for a tall person you can't see up, so you can't see the traffic signal light without ducking or stopping 100' short of the limit line.