Honda and VW both call for a brake fluid change. Honda I thought was 2 years but could have been 3. VW I think was miles (20K, which seemed a bit soon if time independent.)
Probably quite a bit if your brakes stop working effectively...
Toyota recommendation for brake fluid change: When the fluid looks like it needs changing.
Now there’s a good question, do car makers routinely recommend ANY brake fluid changes? Obviously, a severely water contaminated fluid on a car driven hard could degrade stopping performance but not everyone drives like a CCBA racer.
I change the fluid on my Mustang every few years because that’s the one vehicle I own that might get driven hard. I haven’t considered doing it on the other more mundane cars. No one who ever bought one of my well worn surplus vehicles ever showed any concern for brake fluid changes.
BMW calls for a change of DOT 4 fluid every two years. Brake fluid is hygroscopic and as the moisture level increases the boiling point of the brake fluid decreases. The reduced boiling point may not be a big deal on a sedately driven older car, but excessively "wet" fluid can also do a number on a modern vehicle's ABS modules/pumps. Still, I'm not at all surprised that US automakers are not as concerned about the issue; I once heard a European engineer say that the difference between European drivers and American drivers is:
European drivers don't care if the brakes squeal- just as long as they stop the car.
American drivers don't care if the brakes stop the car- just as long as they don't squeal.
Recommendations certainly vary. MB says 2 years/20k, Chevy says 45k miles and Ford says basically never. Some others say 3 years some say 4, some “experts say 4 or 5.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Just started Hoovie's latest episode, which is almost two hours long. It looks like an old-school Top Gear challenge with three presenters. Should be entertaining.
I watched that a month or 2 back. It was originally on Tavarish's channel. Haven't watched Hoovies yet to see if he just reedited it. But yeah, it was what the US top gear should have been, and I found it quite amusing and well done. You should like it.
Hoovie's former Park Avenue Ultra now for sale by its new owner. Apparently it was rejected by Cars And Bids, but I still put out a feeler since I need to scratch the land yacht itch for whatever reason.
My 04 Grand Marquis was over ten years old on the original brake fluid. Brakes still felt fine and the fluid still looked good. I’m sure I would have changed it if I kept the car but I’m thinking every two years is a bit much.
Hoovie's former Park Avenue Ultra now for sale by its new owner. Apparently it was rejected by Cars And Bids, but I still put out a feeler since I need to scratch the land yacht itch for whatever reason.
That’s a nice car but I have one word for you ....
That is a nice cruiser. It's the 3.9 so not too bad in the power department, they never got the 3.6 like the Impala did.
When they first came out in 2006 I drove a loaded Northstar powered one. It was very nice, but I definitely preferred the Avalon which I ultimately bought.
I got absolutely flamed here for my test drive notes on the Lucerne in one of the comparison threads back in the day. I wonder if it's still here on the forums.
I don’t think GM ever got the Northstar “right” from a reliability perspective, although the newer ones are better. Not as familiar with the 3900, although I think it is a larger version of the 3500 I had in my 2008 G6. Those were unusual in that they incorporated variable cam timing in an overhead valve engine.
I wonder if GM got the sewing machine-like clatter out of the 3.9 that its Chevy V-6 ancestors were afflicted with. I never liked the 3.4/3.5 versions for that reason.
Golf battery died this morning! Was fine yesterday but hell, this morning, nothing. Luckily I was off today but still, torrential rains outside when I got stuck. Found my receipt, bought new Interstate one on 11/13/18 so off to Tires Plus I go. Out the door and back on the road in 30 minutes with a bill of $18.45 and a new battery in the engine bay! Guess I had a 2-year free replacement battery so all is good now. Just funny how this kind of thing happens at the worst possible moment, and I really had almost no warning that there was an issue. Just glad it's behind me now and once I get the axle boot repaired, hoping for no more drama for the next year or so!
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I wonder if GM got the sewing machine-like clatter out of the 3.9 that its Chevy V-6 ancestors were afflicted with. I never liked the 3.4/3.5 versions for that reason.
I wonder if GM got the sewing machine-like clatter out of the 3.9 that its Chevy V-6 ancestors were afflicted with. I never liked the 3.4/3.5 versions for that reason.
All the reviews of the 3.9 said it was “thrashy” at high rpms. You could go one year older and get a 3.8 with a lot fewer miles.
I don’t think GM ever got the Northstar “right” from a reliability perspective, although the newer ones are better. Not as familiar with the 3900, although I think it is a larger version of the 3500 I had in my 2008 G6. Those were unusual in that they incorporated variable cam timing in an overhead valve engine.
Sources claim they solved the head bolt problem in the late 2004+ models but I’ve never seen any info that they cured the split engine oil leak issue that usually cost more than the car was worth.
Brilliant idea poorly executed. Shame, since I always wanted one of those late model DTS/Devilles.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Sources claim they solved the head bolt problem in the late 2004+ models but I’ve never seen any info that they cured the split engine oil leak issue that usually cost more than the car was worth.
Brilliant idea poorly executed. Shame, since I always wanted one of those late model DTS/Devilles.
The 3.5L DOHC Olds "Shortstar" that myself and my buddy had in our Intrigues was based on the Northstar design. It was a sweet engine that liked to rev and was very refined in operation, making decent power for the times and was likely capable of much more with further development. It had a similar split-block design. The only problem I had with mine in 6 years of ownership was a bit of coolant seepage from somewhere - never saw a drop anywhere, but you could smell it if you opened the hood and the level would very slowly drop over several months. The dealer recommended the GM tablets which were apparently designed just for this issue and it seemed to go away. My buddy's Intrigue had the infamous oil leakage problem from the split block, however. It was still under warranty and the dealer fixed it. It took many days, and he visited the service dept since he knew the mechanic and took a look at what was involved. Apparently it was quite impressive to see his engine scattered around a service bay in pieces to get to the source of the problem. He had no engine issues after he got it back and kept it until a year or so ago.
Was fun watching the end of this auction. Was sitting at $7,100 with a minute to go, then the proxy bids started hitting and ran up to $8,600. Still seems like a reasonable but price
Yes, but their real price is $18,000, not $17,000 as advertised. Deliberate false advertising if you ask me.
For the $17,000 I'm a buyer (even if they have other undisclosed add-ons totaling $850 for "documentation" and "Window Tinting." However, they claim that is an extra $1,000 discount, and in order to get that I must finance through them, and they want a ridiculous 14.99%. I get that my credit was ruined by the Kia Finance charge off, but 15% is outrageous; won't do that, not even for 4 months.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Yes, but their real price is $18,000, not $17,000 as advertised. Deliberate false advertising if you ask me.
For the $17,000 I'm a buyer (even if they have other undisclosed add-ons totaling $850 for "documentation" and "Window Tinting." However, they claim that is an extra $1,000 discount, and in order to get that I must finance through them, and they want a ridiculous 14.99%. I get that my credit was ruined by the Kia Finance charge off, but 15% is outrageous; won't do that, not even for 4 months.
You let your credit take that much of a hit for a $350 key fob?
Yes, but their real price is $18,000, not $17,000 as advertised. Deliberate false advertising if you ask me.
For the $17,000 I'm a buyer (even if they have other undisclosed add-ons totaling $850 for "documentation" and "Window Tinting." However, they claim that is an extra $1,000 discount, and in order to get that I must finance through them, and they want a ridiculous 14.99%. I get that my credit was ruined by the Kia Finance charge off, but 15% is outrageous; won't do that, not even for 4 months.
Even at 15% it would cost $600 ish in interest over four months. So in effect a $400 discount to offset the dealer fee and window tint.
Holy Cowabunga! $15k Jaguar credit on 2020 XFs! Alas, not on my radar as I don't find it an improvement on my '13. "Only" $3k on the XE.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
So...you stood your ground with Kia over $350 and jacked up your credit? Totally worth it.../s
I didn't know the Credit Bureau's were like the fox guarding the hen house for corrupted banks like Kia Finance.
I honestly thought I'd get the credit Bureau's to see the light, but this was like the opposite experience of a "charge back" experience with a credit card company when disputing a charge.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Yes, but their real price is $18,000, not $17,000 as advertised. Deliberate false advertising if you ask me.
For the $17,000 I'm a buyer (even if they have other undisclosed add-ons totaling $850 for "documentation" and "Window Tinting." However, they claim that is an extra $1,000 discount, and in order to get that I must finance through them, and they want a ridiculous 14.99%. I get that my credit was ruined by the Kia Finance charge off, but 15% is outrageous; won't do that, not even for 4 months.
Even at 15% it would cost $600 ish in interest over four months. So in effect a $400 discount to offset the dealer fee and window tint.
Thanks for doing the math for me. In other words, if they lowered the price $600 further, I could afford the 15% interest at my price, bottom line; don't think I want to budge any further.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Yes, but their real price is $18,000, not $17,000 as advertised. Deliberate false advertising if you ask me.
For the $17,000 I'm a buyer (even if they have other undisclosed add-ons totaling $850 for "documentation" and "Window Tinting." However, they claim that is an extra $1,000 discount, and in order to get that I must finance through them, and they want a ridiculous 14.99%. I get that my credit was ruined by the Kia Finance charge off, but 15% is outrageous; won't do that, not even for 4 months.
You let your credit take that much of a hit for a $350 key fob?
That was a seriously costly mistake
I still think it was worth it, if only for the reduced return on investment the collection agencies have to statistically record.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Yes, but their real price is $18,000, not $17,000 as advertised. Deliberate false advertising if you ask me.
For the $17,000 I'm a buyer (even if they have other undisclosed add-ons totaling $850 for "documentation" and "Window Tinting." However, they claim that is an extra $1,000 discount, and in order to get that I must finance through them, and they want a ridiculous 14.99%. I get that my credit was ruined by the Kia Finance charge off, but 15% is outrageous; won't do that, not even for 4 months.
You let your credit take that much of a hit for a $350 key fob?
That was a seriously costly mistake
I still think it was worth it, if only for the reduced return on investment the collection agencies have to statistically record.
Not going to play "ball" with these low life crooks.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Hoovie's former Park Avenue Ultra now for sale by its new owner. Apparently it was rejected by Cars And Bids, but I still put out a feeler since I need to scratch the land yacht itch for whatever reason.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
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2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
https://www.subaruofcherryhill.com/used/Buick/2009-Buick-Lucerne-cherry-hill-nj-33da6c1a0a0e0adf5e69af4e8eec4049.htm
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
When they first came out in 2006 I drove a loaded Northstar powered one. It was very nice, but I definitely preferred the Avalon which I ultimately bought.
I got absolutely flamed here for my test drive notes on the Lucerne in one of the comparison threads back in the day. I wonder if it's still here on the forums.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
As far as I know the 3.5 and 3.9 are reliable. Maybe not as bullet proof as the 3.8 but more than adequate.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Just glad it's behind me now and once I get the axle boot repaired, hoping for no more drama for the next year or so!
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/822914881/overview/?aff=atempest&cmp=atempest&utm_source=AutoTempest&utm_medium=TRP&utm_campaign=atempest
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Brilliant idea poorly executed. Shame, since I always wanted one of those late model DTS/Devilles.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Handshaker and looks to have no hole in roof.
https://www.carmax.com/car/18906819?edmcid=823191&edminv=WBS4Y_9C53JAA85462&utm_content=product&utm_campaign=LG_AFF&utm_source=LG_AFF_EAS&utm_medium=soc&utm_term=used&mktas=mlb15&mktsrc=fb_Facebook_Mobile_Feed&mktad=23845070180270635&adcode=EAS&fbclid=IwAR2Y_MsWlTI8RC8tXbidllr3_4I-UXacRCzAyfcDZ8WrWfWbvnNDh4ZuKlc
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
You are my new best friend.🤑
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Maybe M2 competition in silver then?
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/823233631/overview/
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KZBDo1QA/2010-volvo-s40-t5-awd-r-design
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Has the price been lowered on the all track?
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Volkswagen-Golf-Alltrack-Phoenix-d2437_L1064#listing=277626139
For the $17,000 I'm a buyer (even if they have other undisclosed add-ons totaling $850 for "documentation" and "Window Tinting." However, they claim that is an extra $1,000 discount, and in order to get that I must finance through them, and they want a ridiculous 14.99%. I get that my credit was ruined by the Kia Finance charge off, but 15% is outrageous; won't do that, not even for 4 months.
That was a seriously costly mistake
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
"Only" $3k on the XE.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
I honestly thought I'd get the credit Bureau's to see the light, but this was like the opposite experience of a "charge back" experience with a credit card company when disputing a charge.
Not going to play "ball" with these low life crooks.