Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

28firefighter

@mjfloyd1 said:

@qbrozen said:
Order submitted for TRX.
Chapman is 11% off MSRP. Everything taken into consideration, they would come to roughly $800 more than Koons, but Koons wants $1k deposit.

Any delivery estimate for Koons or Chapman?

Did you get any options?

Want so bad. Only for like a week. But want.

qbrozen

@mjfloyd1 said:

@qbrozen said:
Order submitted for TRX.
Chapman is 11% off MSRP. Everything taken into consideration, they would come to roughly $800 more than Koons, but Koons wants $1k deposit.

Any delivery estimate for Koons or Chapman?

Did you get any options?

Nobody wants to give any projections.

My build is 2-tone white, level 1 pack, and a handful of extra safety nannies. Seems like those help resale a fair bit. Came to $79.5k msrp.

qbrozen

@stickguy said:
I'm sure it is overpriced (but these days, who the heck knows?) But this is just a gorgeous car. Love the color combo on it. pretty nicely equipped too.

https://www.royalmotorsnj.com/details-2013-mercedes~benz-e~class-4dr_sedan_e_350_luxury_4matic_ltd_avail_-used-wddhf8jb9da751619.html

That’s actually not bad at all. You found a rare car these days that is very near flat from a year ago rather than UP in value. Would be a fair buy. You could plug the vin into the purchase sites and see what they offer. I’m thinking POSSIBLY $16-17k

mjfloyd1

@28firefighter said:

@mjfloyd1 said:

@qbrozen said:
Order submitted for TRX.
Chapman is 11% off MSRP. Everything taken into consideration, they would come to roughly $800 more than Koons, but Koons wants $1k deposit.

Any delivery estimate for Koons or Chapman?

Did you get any options?

When are we targeting landing a man on Mars?

A man can no longer dream? Awkward

au1994

qbrozen said:

Order submitted for TRX.
Chapman is 11% off MSRP. Everything taken into consideration, they would come to roughly $800 more than Koons, but Koons wants $1k deposit.

Congrats! In this crazy market I don’t think you will have a problem realizing a profit. And yeah, thats going to be a fun few weeks while you have it!

au1994

Michaell said:

roadburner said:

The new G42 M240i has received good reviews in the British press. Similar performance to an M2C with more of a grand touring vibe. If I wanted one I knew that it would likely be a bit of a wait as I want RWD and a sunroof delete, but now with the chip shortage it's impossible to predict what might be deleted on an order. For example, SXM is now deleted with a $350 credit. Supposedly it can be retrofitted later, but my sources tell me that BMW has yet to disclose when/how that will be available.

I’ve read that BMW is ditching the touch screen functionality on some of their models.

Everyone probably saw that GM is ditching heated seats and steering wheels on the Silverado. Seats could be a dealbreaker for many. Especially at that price point.

roadburner

@Michaell said:
I’ve read that BMW is ditching the touch screen functionality on some of their models.

That’s true, but I never use the touchscreen in a BMW; I always use voice commands or the iDrive controller.

tjc78

@au1994 said:
Everyone probably saw that GM is ditching heated seats and steering wheels on the Silverado. Seats could be a dealbreaker for many. Especially at that price point.

If you really need the truck, you’ll buy it and then install aftermarket heated seats.

I’d also wager the heated steering wheel could easily be swapped out with one from a yard.

tjc78

@roadburner said:
The new G42 M240i has received good reviews in the British press. Similar performance to an M2C with more of a grand touring vibe. If I wanted one I knew that it would likely be a bit of a wait as I want RWD and a sunroof delete, but now with the chip shortage it's impossible to predict what might be deleted on an order. For example, SXM is now deleted with a $350 credit. Supposedly it can be retrofitted later, but my sources tell me that BMW has yet to disclose when/how that will be available.

You really don’t need built in SXM any longer. If you use CarPlay with the SXM app it works just the same.

au1994

tjc78 said:

@au1994 said:

Everyone probably saw that GM is ditching heated seats and steering wheels on the Silverado. Seats could be a dealbreaker for many. Especially at that price point.

If you really need the truck, you’ll buy it and then install aftermarket heated seats.

I’d also wager the heated steering wheel could easily be swapped out with one from a yard.

The heated wheel on the Jeep is the first one I have ever had and its nice but I could live without it.

To me heated seats on a $60k truck are table stakes, I don’t care if you live in Death Valley and would never use them. I’m sure there’s not a $500 deduct on the sticker for the lack of them.

stickguy

@tjc78 said:

@roadburner said:
The new G42 M240i has received good reviews in the British press. Similar performance to an M2C with more of a grand touring vibe. If I wanted one I knew that it would likely be a bit of a wait as I want RWD and a sunroof delete, but now with the chip shortage it's impossible to predict what might be deleted on an order. For example, SXM is now deleted with a $350 credit. Supposedly it can be retrofitted later, but my sources tell me that BMW has yet to disclose when/how that will be available.

You really don’t need built in SXM any longer. If you use CarPlay with the SXM app it works just the same.

If I buy something without XM that’s my plan. I already have the app on my phone. Just won’t be as convenient.

au1994

tjc78 said:

@roadburner said:

The new G42 M240i has received good reviews in the British press. Similar performance to an M2C with more of a grand touring vibe. If I wanted one I knew that it would likely be a bit of a wait as I want RWD and a sunroof delete, but now with the chip shortage it's impossible to predict what might be deleted on an order. For example, SXM is now deleted with a $350 credit. Supposedly it can be retrofitted later, but my sources tell me that BMW has yet to disclose when/how that will be available.

You really don’t need built in SXM any longer. If you use CarPlay with the SXM app it works just the same.

I could live without that one too. I’ve never signed up after the freebie expired and when I was commuting daily, I just listed to the local sports talk station and argued with them. Or corrected them “Lamar Jackson was a standout at West Virginia”. What??

nyccarguy

roadburner said:

The new G42 M240i has received good reviews in the British press. Similar performance to an M2C with more of a grand touring vibe. If I wanted one I knew that it would likely be a bit of a wait as I want RWD and a sunroof delete, but now with the chip shortage it's impossible to predict what might be deleted on an order. For example, SXM is now deleted with a $350 credit. Supposedly it can be retrofitted later, but my sources tell me that BMW has yet to disclose when/how that will be available.

I hate to say this, but all of these auto manufacturers are "pledging" to have an all electric fleet by 2030 or 2040. Every year, more coupes get killed off. Even sedan sales numbers are dwindling as the overwhelming majority of buyers flock to SUVs and Crossovers. The window is closing on the opportunity to own a Coupe with a manual transmission. There are still a handful of cars you can get with a stick out there. I'm glad we are getting the Civic Si/Acura Integra with a 6-Speed. Eventually the stick is going to go away. The last of the Mohegans is going to be the Porsche 911.

au1994

I hate to say it, but I think you are right @nyccarguy. Domestic sedans are all but gone, even the gold standard Camcord numbers are slipping.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of the German coupes begin to go away in another 5-10 years, A5, C300, 4 Series. Maybe the Corvette and Mustang will be ‘Murican hold outs. AKA “The last of the Interceptors”.

qbrozen

Right now, I'm really tempted to order a Charger Scat Pack for fear they won't be around much longer. Biggest problem is that I'm not terribly in love with the current colors. No hemi orange and no plum crazy. The Gold Rush TA isn't bad, but I don't understand why they heck they don't allow you to get the gold/black interior to match. Makes no sense. Best combo I see is Sinamon with Daytona pack. Still not sure that makes me want to give up my '08, though.

stickguy

Styles have always evolved. Way back most cars were convertibles. 2 doors used to be big sellers.

Times, tastes and needs change. Always have.

Hey, driving an RDX is better than not driving at all! And at least EVs didn’t kill performance cars. Actually made hot rods much easier to come by, and absurdly fast cars much more livable day to day.

nyccarguy

stickguy said:

Styles have always evolved. Way back most cars were convertibles. 2 doors used to be big sellers.

Times, tastes and needs change. Always have.

Hey, driving an RDX is better than not driving at all! And at least EVs didn’t kill performance cars. Actually made hot rods much easier to come by, and absurdly fast cars much more livable day to day.

What happened at the oil change yesterday? Test drives? Did they make you an offer on your RDX to trade into a TLX?

stickguy

Dealer visit is Monday.

au1994

Where are we with punches this year? With @breld being @breld and @qbrozen buying everything but Bluebird schools buses, its got to be a record year.

kyfdx

Next up: Bluebird school bus

sda

kyfdx said:

Next up: Bluebird school bus

Do they still make Bluebirds? Thomas seems to dominate the market in this area.

corvette

I think we’re at 31, not counting all the cars on order that haven’t been delivered yet.

au1994

sda said:

kyfdx said:

Next up: Bluebird school bus

Do they still make Bluebirds? Thomas seems to dominate the market in this area.

Yes, based in Macon, GA.

tjc78

Who is buying…. Only a 7-8K ADM for basically a late 2000s vehicle.

jmonroe1

au1994 said:

tjc78 said:

@roadburner said:

The new G42 M240i has received good reviews in the British press. Similar performance to an M2C with more of a grand touring vibe. If I wanted one I knew that it would likely be a bit of a wait as I want RWD and a sunroof delete, but now with the chip shortage it's impossible to predict what might be deleted on an order. For example, SXM is now deleted with a $350 credit. Supposedly it can be retrofitted later, but my sources tell me that BMW has yet to disclose when/how that will be available.

You really don’t need built in SXM any longer. If you use CarPlay with the SXM app it works just the same.

I could live without that one too. I’ve never signed up after the freebie expired and when I was commuting daily, I just listed to the local sports talk station and argued with them. Or corrected them “Lamar Jackson was a standout at West Virginia”. What??

A Redneck is a Redneck, right?

jmonroe

au1994

corvette said:

I think we’re at 31, not counting all the cars on order that haven’t been delivered yet.

I’d think a Maverick and 4xe should hit before year end. Plus I’m sure we can count on @breld for another one. He’s got that big garage and all…

laurasdada

If I'm to punch, it won't be until '22; after closing on the new townhouse.
Either an upgrade of the wifey's CX-5 or my mid-life crisis, part deux.

In mid-life crisis mode, currently the AM DB11 and Porsche 911 are the (used, of course!) objects of my desire. But, again, talking and shopping are free. I'm no bqbreldzen.

andres3

Crossed 52,000 miles in the TTS; no noticeable smoke coming from the engine yet.

This thing flies at 3K RPM at only 77 MPH so it's usually well north of that.

Sandman6472

Luckily Hyundai/Kia still makes sedans for those that want them. My wife is one of those folks who wants a 4-door sedan, won't even consider a CUV. Think she was about to purchase a Kia Forte back in late 2014 before I mentioned the Audi A3. Hopefully, a few automakers will keep producing sedans as there is a market for them, small as it may be.
Her car hasn't leaked in a couple of days so just going to keep an eye on it & will go from there. Can't see us either replacing the current fleet for at least another year or two. With the chip issue, doesn't much matter as there's really not much out there to choose from. Will just go to our mechanic if any issues crop up. Think I'll be the first one to purchase honestly as I'm ready now.

jmonroe1

au1994 said:

Where are we with punches this year? With @breld being @breld and @qbrozen buying everything but Bluebird schools buses, its got to be a record year.

Oh, haven’t you heard? He’s quietly working a deal on one of those to keep at his newly acquired beach house. His plan is to live in it when Mrs. @qbrozen thinks he’s acting up. To me that sounds better than doing laps around the dining room table when Mrs. j has had enough of my shenanigans.

jmonroe

qbrozen

I confessed to the wife that we have 4 vehicles on order. She said, “you have a PROBLEM. Seriously. Get help.”

My response? “Yes, I have an awful habit of making money. I should stop that.”

Then she calmed down.

Michaell

qbrozen said:

I confessed to the wife that we have 4 vehicles on order. She said, “you have a PROBLEM. Seriously. Get help.”

My response? “Yes, I have an awful habit of making money. I should stop that.”

Then she calmed down.

Is she contributing to the spending?

If not, why not?

au1994

2 4xe’s, Mach E and the TRX, right?

Are they all flips or does one of the Jeeps or Mach E stand a change on staying?

qbrozen

well, Mach E isn't on order. I just have a deposit on it. haha.
The other is the Sprinter. That's the keeper, for sure. And one of the 4xes.

au1994

What’s the lead time on 4xe’s these days? Forgot about the Sprinter AKA Family Truckster.

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

Who is buying…. Only a 7-8K ADM for basically a late 2000s vehicle.

Maybe you otta get it before the ADM jumps to 10K. Plus, I think the color would look good on you.

jmonroe

au1994

I had an 04 4Runner and I don’t think they have fundamentally changed much since then.

corvette

corvette

@au1994 said:
I had an 04 4Runner and I don’t think they have fundamentally changed much since then.

For whatever it’s worth, Consumer Reports at one point said they preferred the 2003-09-ish generation to the current one.

stickguy

so 2 cars that have zero in common other than being yellow?

Michaell

stickguy said:

so 2 cars that have zero in common other than being yellow?

That's the internet for you.

qbrozen

au1994 said:

What’s the lead time on 4xe’s these days? Forgot about the Sprinter AKA Family Truckster.

Waiting on 2022s at this point, so lead time is probably in the 4-mo range.

roadburner

I might have a punch before year's end- but it's looking increasingly unlikely.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

au1994 said:

Where are we with punches this year? With @breld being @breld and @qbrozen buying everything but Bluebird schools buses, its got to be a record year.

Oh, haven’t you heard? He’s quietly working a deal on one of those to keep at his newly acquired beach house. His plan is to live in it when Mrs. @qbrozen thinks he’s acting up. To me that sounds better than doing laps around the dining room table when Mrs. j has had enough of my shenanigans.

jmonroe

Maybe he can buy a school bus and convert it into a pickup thus killing two birds with one stone.



BTW, Bluebirds are considered the low class bargain bus. Internationals are what the cool kids are buying.

stickguy

well, a school bus would save a lot of money, since they could cancel the order for the Sprinter.

customize a short bus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PLfAG5CqIo

stickguy

that big bus could make a nice car hauler. Keep the first few rows and still have enough flatbed room to haul a car.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

jmonroe1 said:

au1994 said:

Where are we with punches this year? With @breld being @breld and @qbrozen buying everything but Bluebird schools buses, its got to be a record year.

Oh, haven’t you heard? He’s quietly working a deal on one of those to keep at his newly acquired beach house. His plan is to live in it when Mrs. @qbrozen thinks he’s acting up. To me that sounds better than doing laps around the dining room table when Mrs. j has had enough of my shenanigans.

jmonroe

Maybe he can buy a school bus and convert it into a pickup thus killing two birds with one stone.



BTW, Bluebirds are considered the low class bargain bus. Internationals are what the cool kids are buying.

If that ain’t a Redneck special I don’t know what is.

jmonroe

au1994

corvette said:

@au1994 said:

I had an 04 4Runner and I don’t think they have fundamentally changed much since then.

For whatever it’s worth, Consumer Reports at one point said they preferred the 2003-09-ish generation to the current one.

Other than the flat seating position, it was a good truck.

qbrozen

I know this is under the “well, duh” headline, but I despise when dealers advertise cars they don’t have.

I reached out to several who are showing Broncos “in stock.” All were customer orders. So why the heck are you photographing and advertising customers’’ cars??

stickguy

To get you to call of course.

Try Holman in maple shade. I think they actually have some.