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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,291

    @nyccarguy - I must have missed a post, would the JGC replace the Pilot once the Wrangler arrives and you start driving the Pilot?

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,705
    nyccarguy said:

    Tonight I took a few minutes at the Jeep dealership to check out and test drive the 2021 Grand Cherokee L. I called, set up and appointment, met with the sales guy. I’m asking him questions about the Altitude model which he proceeds to tell me is the “top of the line.” 2 other sales guys look up and say in unison: “Laredo, Altitude, Limited, Overland.” They had a good laugh. The guy started last week. Came from selling nissans and chevrolets. I asked about the different 4WD systems. The Laredo and Altitude have a very basic AWD system with what seems to be RWD biased with an open center differential. The Limited and Overland have a more sophisticated 4WD system that is always engaged, but has a “normal, snow, sport, & rock/mud” toggle switch. They acknowledged that programs for the Laredo & Altitude are stronger.

    I took a brief test drive because traffic getting there was terrible and I had to pick up my 12 year old from hockey practice. Beautifully finished interior, strong V6 engine, excellent feedback from the steering rack. Smooth ride, & it handled well. Sharp looking SUV.

    I told the guy I will build an Altitude and a Limited to send him the specs of what I want. He’ll get back to me with a price and check stock. Will also let me know about ordering a vehicle.

    They had a very nice white over gray when I took delivery of the 4xe, aka El Jepe. I’m very impressed at how upscale the interior is.

    Here’s hoping your 4xe is good to go.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,501
    corvette said:

    @nyccarguy - I must have missed a post, would the JGC replace the Pilot once the Wrangler arrives and you start driving the Pilot?

    That's one theory I'm going with. The equity I have in our Pilot might be too much to pass up.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,964

    A buddy of mine ordered a new RAV (9 weeks) and traded out of his Corolla lease. Here it is for sale. Are people really paying this much?

    https://www.toyotaofrunnemede.com/certified/Toyota/2019-Toyota-Corolla-4dd8d4e80a0e09713dd4c4a7b0bfb016.htm

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,291

    @tjc78 - according to the description, that Corolla is a RARE manual transmission model, so I’m sure it commands a premium. :D

    That looks like a very ambitious asking price to me. My neighbor’s 2020 Camry was far less.

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,964

    It’s not a manual. Wrong data.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    But it's an SE!

    Makes me think of when I last visited the MB dealer and mentioned my residual is 45K, was told you won't find a 19 E450 with under 20K on it like my car for anywhere near that. Scary that the Corolla is less than 20K more (and I assume at or above original MSRP)
    tjc78 said:

    A buddy of mine ordered a new RAV (9 weeks) and traded out of his Corolla lease. Here it is for sale. Are people really paying this much?

    https://www.toyotaofrunnemede.com/certified/Toyota/2019-Toyota-Corolla-4dd8d4e80a0e09713dd4c4a7b0bfb016.htm

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356
    edited November 2021
    tjc78 said:

    A buddy of mine ordered a new RAV (9 weeks) and traded out of his Corolla lease. Here it is for sale. Are people really paying this much?

    https://www.toyotaofrunnemede.com/certified/Toyota/2019-Toyota-Corolla-4dd8d4e80a0e09713dd4c4a7b0bfb016.htm

    I actually like that. Probably not very common. But, that price. Seems like something that pre-shortages, would maybe be $18,995 and I would wonder if it was worth paying that much. I assume the original MSRP was maybe $25k? So fix the typo on the first digit, and I would consider it!

    but hard to justify buying that instead of a brand new Si for about the same price. Or a few grand more for a Civic hatch 6 speed sport touring.

    EDIT: just saw that it is actually a CVT Makes the situation even worse. compare that to a Civic EX CVT for less money.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    Okay @stickguy - it's now or never-

    It's blue and a manual.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356
    now that is cool. Looks brand new. Too many of these are beat or miled up. Could be a fun toy. Even not too far from me!

    I've thought about registering, but that might be too tempting.

    so far the price seems reasonable.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    edited November 2021
    That C70 price will go up. This isn't a four figure car. Especially in this market. Still, this is only the second C70 manual I've ever seen. And this one is a better color combo. Would anyone feel bad paying $10-11K for this? I wouldn't - what are the alternatives?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356
    oh, if I really wanted to invest in something like this, I would absolutely go for this one. You want the cleanest, best maintained, in the wrapper one you can find. I from the pictures, miles and history, and rep of the seller, I would bet this is it.

    so paying a few grand more up front, will probably end up a lot cheaper after you have to take care of the needs any old car has.

    10K seems very reasonable.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,688
    edited November 2021
    corvette said:

    @tjc78 - according to the description, that Corolla is a RARE manual transmission model, so I’m sure it commands a premium. :D

    That looks like a very ambitious asking price to me. My neighbor’s 2020 Camry was far less.

    The title of the ad is encouraging: "Corolla SE Car"

    before today, I don't think I've ever seen a car ad include the word "car" in the title of the ad. /facepalm
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,205
    tifighter said:

    Okay @stickguy - it's now or never-

    It's blue and a manual.

    $7k with two hours to go? What do you think for final bid, $12k? Can’t fault the mileage.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    edited November 2021
    X2
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    corvette said:

    My neighbor's new ride... definitely an upgrade from her 1997 model with hubcaps and rust in several places!


    So that's what rain looks like?
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    tifighter said:

    Okay @stickguy - it's now or never-

    It's blue and a manual.

    too bad my wife doesn't drive stick.

    Tell ya what, an S60 T5 manual in that color combo and those miles would HAVE to wind up in my driveway.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,688
    I don't know; maybe it's the photos or just my eyes, but the front and rear bumper shells on that C70 don't look right at all. As such, it could be the "minor" accident history that is suppressing bidders' enthusiasm for it.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    I really can't believe I still don't have a Mach E. This is nuts to me. There is stock, I'm not trying to get money off, so WTH?! It is just a total lack of communication from dealers. The only one who was anxious to follow up with me doesn't have any.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    xwesx said:

    I don't know; maybe it's the photos or just my eyes, but the front and rear bumper shells on that C70 don't look right at all. As such, it could be the "minor" accident history that is suppressing bidders' enthusiasm for it.

    It is getting there. $9500 with 27 mins to go.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,205
    The Volvo sold for $15,250. I threw out $12K as an absurd figure. I guess we are over the rainbow.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737

    The Volvo sold for $15,250. I threw out $12K as an absurd figure. I guess we are over the rainbow.

    I thought 12 would be the right number.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    And the listing I've been watching today.

    I love this one.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    tifighter said:

    And the listing I've been watching today.

    I love this one.

    good GOD that is NUTS! Did people confuse that with a Grand Wagoneer??

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    Good XJ's have become sought after. This price didn't surprise me one bit...

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362
    Took the Outback in for some deferred maintenance and service. Turns out it needed a few more things than I budgeted for, but oh well --- still less than (several) car payments.

    The best thing is, the shop that did the work has a warranty for 3 years or 36,000 miles, whichever comes last. Given that we're averaging 6-7K a year on it now, that warranty is good for 5 or 6 years.

    Of course, this has me looking a new (used) cars - right now my focus is on the X3 M40i, SQ5 or GLC43, all of which can be had in the mid to upper $40's around town.

    Any opinions on these? I know @breld has owned 2 of the three (and, they had two GLC300's).

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356

    All nice cars. Decide first what style you want. And don’t buy the Audi to keep.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356

    Loved the Volvo but not at that price.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,331

    @corvette said:
    As opposed to a Corolla SE Dishwasher.

    Those have the full automatic super clean cycle option. As opposed to the manual clean cycle.

    jmonroe

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,331

    @qbrozen said:
    I thought 12 would be the right number.

    Me too. I guess us know-it-alls should just bump up our number by 25%. Glad I’m not in the market now.

    jmonroe

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,205
    tifighter said:

    And the listing I've been watching today.

    I love this one.

    Didn’t Hoovie have one of those?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356
    Hoovie had just about everything. I know he has a full sized wagoneer (old school) but don't recall any videos on this version.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,501

    Another sharp looking 4th Gen Prelude is going up on Cars & Bids. Be on the look out for a 1995 Prelude VTEC in Milano Red. The guy was posting it for sale on a Prelude FB group. Said he was looking for $14,500. Recent services completed. Less than 100K miles. Should be interesting.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Happy Turkey Day folks!! Dreary and humid down here in South Florida. Just the two of us as our daughter in Miami has to work at the hospital today. Would've gone up to Orlando but I've got to work tomorrow. And of course, going to Chicago wasn't going to work. Hoping to drive up there sometime in 2022 as am anxious to see the kids new house. Luckily we have FaceTime so we can all check in later. This is the one holiday I do miss not having everyone together.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356
    nyccarguy said:

    Another sharp looking 4th Gen Prelude is going up on Cars & Bids. Be on the look out for a 1995 Prelude VTEC in Milano Red. The guy was posting it for sale on a Prelude FB group. Said he was looking for $14,500. Recent services completed. Less than 100K miles. Should be interesting.

    if you see it post a link. I like those. But the prices on "collectibles" now is just taking me out of the market.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    edited November 2021
    Boss gave us $15 gift cards for Dunkin' Donuts yesterday, a very nice gesture I thought. Enterprise is a very good company to work for from what I've seen. December 3rd will start my 3rd year working there and couldn't be happier to be honest. Being a part time employee, never expected to get a 401K or profit sharing but they offer it to us, Hertz basically gave us crap! Most of my co-workers seem very happy working there and I now get why some have been there 20 + years!

    Still very happy that I left that shuttle job I had for five months. Discovered I'd rather not work with the public, working behind the scenes is so much better & less stressful. Can see myself staying at Enterprise for many years even if we do end up moving to the Orlando area. We have a couple drivers who summer up north and work for Enterprise where they go. Makes sense really as it is the same company, just a different location. Really thought I'd retire again when I reach 70 but have decided to just see how things go. No sense making plans for the future as we don't know what that future will be. Think it best to just take life one day at a time right now. Still haven't heard if our one daughter is going to transfer up to Orlando or closer to us. Figure by February, she'll know what's next for her. Then, we can make our plans if need be.

    Happy Thanksgiving folks!!

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    Happy Thanksgiving and good health to all

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,501

    Happy thanksgiving to everyone & your families! We are hosting again this year. While it is a lot of prep work & clean up, I much prefer it to sitting in traffic for 1 1/2 - 2 hours each way to what is normally an hour-ish to get either to my parents or my in laws. Plus my wife and I both have to work tomorrow so we get to spend a little time at home. My wife and I each got to ride the Peloton.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827

    @nyccarguy said:
    Happy thanksgiving to everyone & your families! We are hosting again this year. While it is a lot of prep work & clean up, I much prefer it to sitting in traffic for 1 1/2 - 2 hours each way to what is normally an hour-ish to get either to my parents or my in laws. Plus my wife and I both have to work tomorrow so we get to spend a little time at home. My wife and I each got to ride the Peloton.

    I’m saving my peloton ride for tomorrow. That might be a mistake.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331

    @nyccarguy said:
    Happy thanksgiving to everyone & your families! We are hosting again this year. While it is a lot of prep work & clean up, I much prefer it to sitting in traffic for 1 1/2 - 2 hours each way to what is normally an hour-ish to get either to my parents or my in laws. Plus my wife and I both have to work tomorrow so we get to spend a little time at home. My wife and I each got to ride the Peloton.

    Happy Thanksgiving!

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,705

    @nyccarguy said:

    Happy thanksgiving to everyone & your families! We are hosting again this year. While it is a lot of prep work & clean up, I much prefer it to sitting in traffic for 1 1/2 - 2 hours each way to what is normally an hour-ish to get either to my parents or my in laws. Plus my wife and I both have to work tomorrow so we get to spend a little time at home. My wife and I each got to ride the Peloton.

    I’m saving my peloton ride for tomorrow. That might be a mistake.


    Happy Thanksgiving all!

    There’s no way I could throw a leg over my Peloton right now.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,688
    Happy Thanksgiving.

    My family is bucking tradition and taking it relatively easy. Some bread, some pie, some homemade cranberry sauce, and a large stew!
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,331

    I know it’s probably too late for some of you turkeys but in case you haven’t heard it ain’t safe to stick your neck out today. We’ll see how many of you don’t show up tomorrow. For those that survived…Happy Thanksgiving.

    jmonroe

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827

    Happy thanksgiving all! I have turkey #1 of two in the fryer as we speak. Grateful for this community this year (and all years)!

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,331

    @28firefighter said:
    Happy thanksgiving all! I have turkey #1 of two in the fryer as we speak. Grateful for this community this year (and all years)!

    I understand deep fried turkey is great but the one time I had it I didn’t like it at all. My nieces husband destroyed it and worse yet by the time he used a dull knife to cut it it was more like pulled turkey. I should have known an auto body guy didn’t know anything about cooking. And my niece doesn’t even know how to use a can opener so no help there either. Worst Thanksgiving meal I ever had. Never going back there again I can tell you that and Mrs. j knows it. In fact, I’ve told her to have a few excuses ready just in case we’re ever invited again. Please car gods, don’t do that to me again.

    jmonroe

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,778
    Neighbor down the street had an afternoon party, a few years ago. Deep frying a turkey. Went awry and the vat tipped over on his deck, which started smoldering.

    Soon after, we needed to go home to check on something... thanks for the party! lol

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,582
    I think I’ve heard of more fried turkey fail stories than successes. My BIL is an exception and his fried turkeys are delicious. I hope everyone is having a safe, fattening and Happy Thanksgiving.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,688
    edited November 2021
    I like the outcome of deep frying a turkey (usually), but I do NOT like the mess of it. Of course, the only time I ever take it on is when I have a turkey that's too big for the oven (which means it is also too big for the fryer... technically), so that probably has something to do with it. Thankfully, since my place is pretty rustic anyway, I can usually just ignore much of the mess and let nature/time clean it up for me. :D
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