of all the Breld rejects that have come and gone, yours is the one I really would have wanted. The white 2 series manual being 2nd. Your GTI though is perfect color and spec.
Of all of my rejects, I wish I would have kept that 2-series. Great balance of performance and comfort at a steal of a price. And a bit of that old school BMW feel. That I miss.
Yeah, it kind of ticked me off... I show up to get the GTI, and you had that 2-series as a replacement in the garage.
Welp. The ZHP is effectively sold. I’ve been paid and the title has been sent out. It’ll be in my garage for another week or so until a shipper can pick it up after my work trip this week.
I’m really going to miss it, but better it goes to someone who will drive it way more than I do!
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Welp. The ZHP is effectively sold. I’ve been paid and the title has been sent out. It’ll be in my garage for another week or so until a shipper can pick it up after my work trip this week.
I’m really going to miss it, but better it goes to someone who will drive it way more than I do!
Wait, what?
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@stickguy said:
of all the Breld rejects that have come and gone, yours is the one I really would have wanted. The white 2 series manual being 2nd. Your GTI though is perfect color and spec.
Of all of my rejects, I wish I would have kept that 2-series. Great balance of performance and comfort at a steal of a price. And a bit of that old school BMW feel. That I miss.
Well, you can always try to find the buyer and see if he’s willing to sell it back to you. Everything has a price. Just depends on how hot the buyers pants are.
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@28firefighter said:
Welp. The ZHP is effectively sold. I’ve been paid and the title has been sent out. It’ll be in my garage for another week or so until a shipper can pick it up after my work trip this week.
I’m really going to miss it, but better it goes to someone who will drive it way more than I do!
You didn’t auction it?
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@stickguy said:
of all the Breld rejects that have come and gone, yours is the one I really would have wanted. The white 2 series manual being 2nd. Your GTI though is perfect color and spec.
Of all of my rejects, I wish I would have kept that 2-series. Great balance of performance and comfort at a steal of a price. And a bit of that old school BMW feel. That I miss.
I’ll take April 22 on this one.
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My problem with multiple cars is not just the driveway space, but the car insurance. It burns me up the insurance companies want full price for every car, when you can only drive one at a time.
The local Alfa Dealer has a new Giulia Veloce in stock; Vesuvio Gray over Red leather. Four things keep me from buying it. 1. AWD- the only AWD cars I'd consider would be the GR Corolla, the WRX, and the M5 CS. 2. It's not as quick as I like; Alfa needs a model to slot between the Veloce and the Quadrifoglio. 3. Depreciation 4. Reliability and dealing with the local Alfa store for service. It sure is handsome, though:
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Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@28firefighter said:
Welp. The ZHP is effectively sold. I’ve been paid and the title has been sent out. It’ll be in my garage for another week or so until a shipper can pick it up after my work trip this week.
I’m really going to miss it, but better it goes to someone who will drive it way more than I do!
You didn’t auction it?
Nah. As much as I love the idea of BaT it’s a huge time investment every day of the auction - time I just don’t have at this particular moment and don’t foresee having anytime soon.
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@28firefighter said:
Yes. I have effectively reserved the right to acquire a third car at some point in the future. But that time is not now.
The added complexity is that my wife can’t drive it making its existence in car Tetris a continual friction point.
Why stop at three?
I suggested 3+ cars was better than 3+ girlfriends. Did not land the way I’d hoped.
My wife’s policy is that I can have no more than 22 wheels on the ground. Right now that is 5 cars and one motorcycle. If I wanted another motorcycle one car would have to go.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
my wife never had an opinion. Just a rule that she gets a garage bay, and I can't park behind it. So with a 2 car garage and driveway the same width, if I have a spare car one of mine has to sit outside, blocking the garage door. and I hate having to move cars around to get one out! Would love for the next house to have a 3 car garage but that is hard to find. A spare parking slot on the driveway, that might be doable.
I received this from VW dealer where I've purchased multiple cars and frequent their service dept. This is tempting but what could I buy to replace the Passat? The Passat certainly isn't my dream car but is good solid transportation. I doesn't hurt it is under CPO warranty until 8/25/84k. It currently has 26k. I didn't copy the entire email.
Dear Steve,
I hope this email finds you well. Please see below for an important message regarding your current vehicle from our Managing Owner, Mark Cohen. Mr. Cohen is very interested in purchasing your vehicle. Because of the current inventory shortage, pre-owned vehicle values have never been higher so we're willing to pay up to $4,000 OVER the current KBB trade-in value. We have identified YOUR vehicle as one that is in high demand so we really want it.
Would you have any interest in a new GTI? Or would you consider putting in an order for a VW ID.4?
Sam Haymart of Test Driven TV bought a base Maverick XL hybrid for his own personal and business use. He's now put 5000 miles on it and gives the following report. Almost all of his miles have been in the city of Phoenix, and he's reporting an amazing 47 mpg average over 5000 miles. That's above even the 42 mpg epa rating for city driving. But his infotainment system is so wonky he doesn't use it very much. Another issue is that the brakes on the hybrid are grabby in the transition between regenerative and hydraulic, and so smooth stops are a challenge. For both of those issues he says that a lot people on Maverick sites are having the same challenges. My guess is that probably by now they have the software worked out for the infotainment.
Motor trend had a quick review of one this month. Loved it.
Brakes seem to be normal hybrid stuff. On the Maverick forum I don’t really see any complaints. The infotainment screen did have some issues early on but a n update was released back in March that seems to have fixed the problems. Mine never had any. But I did the OTA update anyway.
Tesla's Austin factory is now the largest vehicle factory in the world. It will take until 2024 to ramp up to full capacity, but at that point some are speculating that this one factory might be able to make as many as 1 million vehicles each year.
As a comparison, Toyota's biggest factory in the world, the one in Georgetown, Kentucky, has a capacity to make up to 550,000 vehicles a year.
Meanwhile my favorite car company Honda/Acura seems to be in the process of getting left in dust in this paradigm shift. I know Honda is partnering with GM and Sony to bring EVs to market, but it sounds like volume won't be ramped up for them until late in the decade.
For people on more of a budget, however, it seems like gas cars might still be the better bet for a while. The least expensive Model 3 now costs about $50,000 once you get a charger installed in your garage. The Acura Integra, which is pretty much the same size, apparently will start at about $32,000. Although you'd save around $1000 a year in gas with the Tesla, that still means that it might take you as much as 18 years to make up the difference.
my wife never had an opinion. Just a rule that she gets a garage bay, and I can't park behind it. So with a 2 car garage and driveway the same width, if I have a spare car one of mine has to sit outside, blocking the garage door. and I hate having to move cars around to get one out! Would love for the next house to have a 3 car garage but that is hard to find. A spare parking slot on the driveway, that might be doable.
Our driveway is just long enough, that I can park a car near the sidewalk on my side, then back into the garage, around it (even with my wife's car in the garage). That way, she has a straight shot out. Learned that when we had a teenage driver with a 3rd car. Then the diesel, then the Fit...
Of course, the cars I've had to back in are the ZHP and the GTI. Easy.
The brakes on my Edge rental are a bit grabby. May be a Ford thing. I’ve had a couple of issues with Sync not recognizing my phone when I plug in. I’ll try to see whether I can update it.
In 2021 Tesla sales were 2% of the US market. For the first 3 months of this year Tesla apparently already has more than 8% of the US market. Once the Austin factory is at full capacity, Tesla will probably have something like 12% of the US market. It seems like pretty much everyone else is going to have a lower share of the US market as Tesla grows?
I've read that BMW, Mercedes, Ford, Toyota, and probably others want to limit production and the supply of cars on dealer lots, even after the chip shortage ends, so that their prices and profit margins grow. That might work. But if some manufacturers don't want to do that, then they could go for lower profits and higher market share.
And as Tesla, Ford, GM, VW, and others all ramp up EV production, is there a chance that in two years or so EV supplies will outstrip demand? Maybe I'm dreaming, but by 2024 could we even see an EV price war?
private companies need to invest in charging infrastructure. Plus Tesla already has their own.
EVs will need to come down in price though to get more broad acceptance. Though there are still many people that will never really be candidates for them (unless they can come up with battery tech that can give 200 miles of charge in 10 minutes or less, so people without home charging can use them like a normal car and just stop at the "gas" station.)
@kyfdx said:
Our driveway is just long enough, that I can park a car near the sidewalk on my side, then back into the garage, around it (even with my wife's car in the garage). That way, she has a straight shot out. Learned that when we had a teenage driver with a 3rd car. Then the diesel, then the Fit...
Of course, the cars I've had to back in are the ZHP and the GTI. Easy.
Our driveway is the same, it's long enough that the truck is parked down a bit and it allows for easy in and out for both cars in the garage without having to move it. If that was not the case I suspect it would be a point of contention here as well.
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In the past vehicles from Fremont have been exported to Europe and other places. But now that Europe and China have their own huge Telsa factories, probably almost all of those 600,000 vehicles will be for the US and Canada.
Telsa hopes to triple the capacity of their supercharger network in the next two years:
IMHO, EV's will take off when someone brings to market a vehicle that retails for $30K, has 200+ miles of range, and can go from 10% to 80% charged in 15 minutes through a level 3 charger.
Until then, they will be a novelty to most of the motoring public.
gas prices are probably hurting the offers on the Q50. sedans are not that popular to start with, and a gas guzzling one will be even less so these days.
Wish we had a circular drive as our driveway can only fit two back to back an getting into my side if there's one at the end of my side takes some movements back & forth and of course the wife's side empty. But have done it numerous times as we usually use the Hyundai when she's visiting, like now. Dropped mine at the mechanic last night & so far, no word...betting they'll be doing the oil/filter swap as we're so close to June anyways and he's got it, so why not do it. No idea about the brake pedal but will just have to wait. Will use the Hyundai to go to physical therapy later & can always pick mine up later tonight or even tomorrow afternoon. Will just take the Hyundai to work & then drop it back home first thing after clocking in. Have done it before so no big deal as we're so close to our office from home. This stuff is small potatoes as we're still dealing with internet issues and the home phone & fax are both not working properly. Since the wife works from home & needs the internet, this ain't good!!!
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IMHO, EV's will take off when someone brings to market a vehicle that retails for $30K, has 200+ miles of range, and can go from 10% to 80% charged in 15 minutes through a level 3 charger.
Until then, they will be a novelty to most of the motoring public.
I would agree with this. plus there are still large sections of this country that are too spread out for them. Like many things EV will be much more popular on the coasts!
I think the plug in hybrid is a much better option now, especially if they can improve the battery range (maybe with solid states). That would be ideal for us. If I have to replace the RDX for any reason definitely want a plug in. I might go weeks without burning any gas based on our normal use. Which in theory is great for an EV also, except that we regularly also do long high speed highway trips that are beyond the range of an EV now. and the nice ones are way too expensive.
Michael, totally agree with your last comment. I'm the perfect candidate to buy an EV right now but those reasons listed are why I'm not jumping on the Ioniq5 at this time. Really like that EV though I'd consider the Chevy Bolt also due to its smaller size. Both would work for my needs right now & honestly think I'd be fine with either. But those entry prices are just too much right now!!!
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when I had the Miata I was able to park my Maxima at the bottom of the driveway and snake the little car around it. A minor hassle doing that. The bigger issue is I hate parking outside. And I was always worried about the wife hitting it since it made getting in and out of the driveway tricky.
basically I really need a 3 car garage. if our agent finds anything close to budget that the wife doesn't hate that has one I am buying it!
And, the BIL's Q50 doesn't have as much equity in it as we would have thought. Carvana came back with a number that gave them a whopping $400 worth.
How is that possible, in this market?
Did she check with Vroom, Driveway etc? There can be huge swings in what different companies are willing to pay
No kidding. When I priced out my 2013 F150 about 6 weeks ago, the high bid was $14.6k. The second highest was $12k, quite a bit less. And one came in at $10k.
In 2021 Tesla sales were 2% of the US market. For the first 3 months of this year Tesla apparently already has more than 8% of the US market. Once the Austin factory is at full capacity, Tesla will probably have something like 12% of the US market. It seems like pretty much everyone else is going to have a lower share of the US market as Tesla grows?
I've read that BMW, Mercedes, Ford, Toyota, and probably others want to limit production and the supply of cars on dealer lots, even after the chip shortage ends, so that their prices and profit margins grow. That might work. But if some manufacturers don't want to do that, then they could go for lower profits and higher market share.
It's going to be very interesting to watch how this plays out. I am by no means a business analyst, but it seems to me there are two ways to go about this. The first method is to build up sales, to dominate the market, whatever that takes. The second way is to try and maximize profits on whatever sales you have. It seems to me that most companies who try to maximize profits don't stay around very long. The exception to that would be in luxury items.
I’ll give one example that I’m familiar with. Bill Gates, Microsoft, and the market for operating systems. Bill Gates, from very early on, hated software pirates. He was quite vocal in what he thought about people who stole his basic interpreter, and this was well before he was in the operating system business. But at some point he made a conscious decision to not go after people who used Windows without paying. He wanted to own the market, he wanted Windows to be the only player in the game, and he achieved that goal.
To make that happen, he left software pirates alone. The only people who have ever been prosecuted for pirating Windows are businesses who try to sell new computers with an illegal copy of Windows. If early on, he had instead went after the huge numbers of end users who were pirating his software then some of the alternatives just might have taken off. But the alternatives never really had a chance, it was too easy to just use Windows for free.
Contrast that with what the RIAA did with music piracy.
IMHO, EV's will take off when someone brings to market a vehicle that retails for $30K, has 200+ miles of range, and can go from 10% to 80% charged in 15 minutes through a level 3 charger.
Until then, they will be a novelty to most of the motoring public.
I would add that they need better vroom vroom noises, too. ;b
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The local Alfa Dealer has a new Giulia Veloce in stock; Vesuvio Gray over Red leather. Four things keep me from buying it. 1. AWD- the only AWD cars I'd consider would be the GR Corolla, the WRX, and the M5 CS. 2. It's not as quick as I like; Alfa needs a model to slot between the Veloce and the Quadrifoglio. 3. Depreciation 4. Reliability and dealing with the local Alfa store for service. It sure is handsome, though
Have you driven one yet? I agree that they desperately need an in-between model, but the handling is so darned good that you don't quite miss the 1-sec 0-60 like you think you would.
I'll put it this way: whereas the acceleration compares to the 330xi, the overall package is so much better that it feels more like a 340 msport competitor.
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IMHO, EV's will take off when someone brings to market a vehicle that retails for $30K, has 200+ miles of range, and can go from 10% to 80% charged in 15 minutes through a level 3 charger.
Until then, they will be a novelty to most of the motoring public.
What you're saying is true for me personally, but there are enough people who want a Tesla that at this point that their waiting lists are quite long. I'm guessing the long wait times for a Tesla will end in about 8 months, when they might be able to make twice as many Teslas in a month in the US as they sold in a whole year back in 2017. Once Tesla is making 100,000 vehicles a month combined in Fremont and Austin, my guess is the Model 3 will pass the Camry to become the best selling car in North America by December of 2022.
But getting back to your requirements, if you count the federal tax credit of $7500, then it looks like maybe the VW ID.4 isn't that far off? My older sister is thinking of getting one of these. Wait time according to her VW dealer is 9 months.
right now I think I would want the Hyundai EV (Ioniq5?) that got rave reviews. and charges really quick (though you still have to find one of the really fast chargers)
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Of all of my rejects, I wish I would have kept that 2-series. Great balance of performance and comfort at a steal of a price. And a bit of that old school BMW feel. That I miss.
Yeah, it kind of ticked me off... I show up to get the GTI, and you had that 2-series as a replacement in the garage.
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Welp. The ZHP is effectively sold. I’ve been paid and the title has been sent out. It’ll be in my garage for another week or so until a shipper can pick it up after my work trip this week.
I’m really going to miss it, but better it goes to someone who will drive it way more than I do!
I believe @28firefighter has a two car garage and now has “car shuffling” issues with three cars. He doesn’t drive the ZHP much so it is moving on…
Yes. I have effectively reserved the right to acquire a third car at some point in the future. But that time is not now.
The added complexity is that my wife can’t drive it making its existence in car Tetris a continual friction point.
Yep. Welcome back.
I understand completely.
Why stop at three?
Why stop at three?
I have six cars in my driveway. Four of my own, my son’s and a car he’s babysitting for a friend in the Army. Talk about Tetris.
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I suggested 3+ cars was better than 3+ girlfriends. Did not land the way I’d hoped.
It all depends on which parts you like to keep attached to your body…
Well, you can always try to find the buyer and see if he’s willing to sell it back to you. Everything has a price. Just depends on how hot the buyers pants are.
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You didn’t auction it?
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I’ll take April 22 on this one.
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1. AWD- the only AWD cars I'd consider would be the GR Corolla, the WRX, and the M5 CS.
2. It's not as quick as I like; Alfa needs a model to slot between the Veloce and the Quadrifoglio.
3. Depreciation
4. Reliability and dealing with the local Alfa store for service.
It sure is handsome, though:
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Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Nah. As much as I love the idea of BaT it’s a huge time investment every day of the auction - time I just don’t have at this particular moment and don’t foresee having anytime soon.
My wife’s policy is that I can have no more than 22 wheels on the ground. Right now that is 5 cars and one motorcycle. If I wanted another motorcycle one car would have to go.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Motor trend had a quick review of one this month. Loved it.
Brakes seem to be normal hybrid stuff. On the Maverick forum I don’t really see any complaints. The infotainment screen did have some issues early on but a n update was released back in March that seems to have fixed the problems. Mine never had any. But I did the OTA update anyway.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Tesla's Austin factory is now the largest vehicle factory in the world. It will take until 2024 to ramp up to full capacity, but at that point some are speculating that this one factory might be able to make as many as 1 million vehicles each year.
As a comparison, Toyota's biggest factory in the world, the one in Georgetown, Kentucky, has a capacity to make up to 550,000 vehicles a year.
https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-motor-manufacturing-kentucky-inc-tmmk-fact-sheet/
Meanwhile my favorite car company Honda/Acura seems to be in the process of getting left in dust in this paradigm shift. I know Honda is partnering with GM and Sony to bring EVs to market, but it sounds like volume won't be ramped up for them until late in the decade.
For people on more of a budget, however, it seems like gas cars might still be the better bet for a while. The least expensive Model 3 now costs about $50,000 once you get a charger installed in your garage. The Acura Integra, which is pretty much the same size, apparently will start at about $32,000. Although you'd save around $1000 a year in gas with the Tesla, that still means that it might take you as much as 18 years to make up the difference.
Of course, the cars I've had to back in are the ZHP and the GTI. Easy.
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I'm not ready for EV. Yes, GTI or GLI. Regardless I doubt I can match my current $207 payment without a huge down-payment, purchase not lease.
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Guess the V60 is out, and the XC60 is in.
And, the BIL's Q50 doesn't have as much equity in it as we would have thought. Carvana came back with a number that gave them a whopping $400 worth.
How is that possible, in this market?
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More reinforcement that everybody wants an SUV?
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I've read that BMW, Mercedes, Ford, Toyota, and probably others want to limit production and the supply of cars on dealer lots, even after the chip shortage ends, so that their prices and profit margins grow. That might work. But if some manufacturers don't want to do that, then they could go for lower profits and higher market share.
And as Tesla, Ford, GM, VW, and others all ramp up EV production, is there a chance that in two years or so EV supplies will outstrip demand? Maybe I'm dreaming, but by 2024 could we even see an EV price war?
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/tesla-us-sales-figures/
Tesla sales and market share in the US....
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EVs will need to come down in price though to get more broad acceptance. Though there are still many people that will never really be candidates for them (unless they can come up with battery tech that can give 200 miles of charge in 10 minutes or less, so people without home charging can use them like a normal car and just stop at the "gas" station.)
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Our driveway is the same, it's long enough that the truck is parked down a bit and it allows for easy in and out for both cars in the garage without having to move it. If that was not the case I suspect it would be a point of contention here as well.
Did she check with Vroom, Driveway etc? There can be huge swings in what different companies are willing to pay
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-fremont-factory-most-productive-auto-factory-2021/
In the past vehicles from Fremont have been exported to Europe and other places. But now that Europe and China have their own huge Telsa factories, probably almost all of those 600,000 vehicles will be for the US and Canada.
Telsa hopes to triple the capacity of their supercharger network in the next two years:
https://electrek.co/2021/10/21/tesla-plans-triple-supercharger-network/
Did she check with Vroom, Driveway etc? There can be huge swings in what different companies are willing to pay
I've told her to check with both Vroom and CarMax, in addition to Carvana.
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Until then, they will be a novelty to most of the motoring public.
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This stuff is small potatoes as we're still dealing with internet issues and the home phone & fax are both not working properly. Since the wife works from home & needs the internet, this ain't good!!!
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I think the plug in hybrid is a much better option now, especially if they can improve the battery range (maybe with solid states). That would be ideal for us. If I have to replace the RDX for any reason definitely want a plug in. I might go weeks without burning any gas based on our normal use. Which in theory is great for an EV also, except that we regularly also do long high speed highway trips that are beyond the range of an EV now. and the nice ones are way too expensive.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
basically I really need a 3 car garage. if our agent finds anything close to budget that the wife doesn't hate that has one I am buying it!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Did she check with Vroom, Driveway etc? There can be huge swings in what different companies are willing to pay
No kidding. When I priced out my 2013 F150 about 6 weeks ago, the high bid was $14.6k. The second highest was $12k, quite a bit less. And one came in at $10k.
I’ll give one example that I’m familiar with. Bill Gates, Microsoft, and the market for operating systems. Bill Gates, from very early on, hated software pirates. He was quite vocal in what he thought about people who stole his basic interpreter, and this was well before he was in the operating system business. But at some point he made a conscious decision to not go after people who used Windows without paying. He wanted to own the market, he wanted Windows to be the only player in the game, and he achieved that goal.
To make that happen, he left software pirates alone. The only people who have ever been prosecuted for pirating Windows are businesses who try to sell new computers with an illegal copy of Windows. If early on, he had instead went after the huge numbers of end users who were pirating his software then some of the alternatives just might have taken off. But the alternatives never really had a chance, it was too easy to just use Windows for free.
Contrast that with what the RIAA did with music piracy.
That sounds like a holdup without a gun but getting offers from other car buying outfits is needed to prove that.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I agree that they desperately need an in-between model, but the handling is so darned good that you don't quite miss the 1-sec 0-60 like you think you would.
I'll put it this way: whereas the acceleration compares to the 330xi, the overall package is so much better that it feels more like a 340 msport competitor.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
But getting back to your requirements, if you count the federal tax credit of $7500, then it looks like maybe the VW ID.4 isn't that far off? My older sister is thinking of getting one of these. Wait time according to her VW dealer is 9 months.
https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-4.html
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.