2017 Audi A4 Lease Questions

brunof · January 2017

Michaell said:

brunof said:
Hello Sir,

Still trying to make this deal happen. I'm going to pursue a bigger discount off MSRP but here's where we are at so far.

2017 A4 Ultra Season of Audi Package
+ Convenience
+ Heated Front Seats
+ Manhattan Grey Metallic
+ $950 Destination

MSRP $40775
Discount -$3603
Sales Price $37,172

+$795 Lease Acquisition

CA Sales Tax 8.75%
53% residual ($21,611)
Money Factor 0.72% APR or 0.0003
36mos / 15k

$1,500 down includes first months payment and $459 registration & fees.

$498/mo including tax

Just confirming these numbers line up. I will still push for a sales price discount closer to 12% which is reasonable for Southern California.

Thank You again for your time and assistance.

.00030 and 53% are the correct numbers.

If I add the acquisition fee to the selling price, I get $472/mo plus tax. What tax rate do you have?

If you can get 12% off sticker, that would be amazing. We normally suggest 6%.

Sales tax is 8.75%

I went back to dealer today and was able to negotiate an 11.8% discount on MSRP.
I then added Audi Care which bumped the residual up to 54%.
I rolled acquisition into lease but offered first mo, tax title license and Audi Care upfront which came to around $1671

Monthly payment was $461 including tax for 15k / 36 . All in all I think it was a great deal. Sadly I left it on the table as the offer for my trade was far too low.

I couldn't have come this far if not for this forum and your help. I didn't get a car but I'm ok.

Michaell · January 2017

brunof said:

Michaell said:

brunof said:
Hello Sir,

Still trying to make this deal happen. I'm going to pursue a bigger discount off MSRP but here's where we are at so far.

2017 A4 Ultra Season of Audi Package
+ Convenience
+ Heated Front Seats
+ Manhattan Grey Metallic
+ $950 Destination

MSRP $40775
Discount -$3603
Sales Price $37,172

+$795 Lease Acquisition

CA Sales Tax 8.75%
53% residual ($21,611)
Money Factor 0.72% APR or 0.0003
36mos / 15k

$1,500 down includes first months payment and $459 registration & fees.

$498/mo including tax

Just confirming these numbers line up. I will still push for a sales price discount closer to 12% which is reasonable for Southern California.

Thank You again for your time and assistance.

.00030 and 53% are the correct numbers.

If I add the acquisition fee to the selling price, I get $472/mo plus tax. What tax rate do you have?

If you can get 12% off sticker, that would be amazing. We normally suggest 6%.
Sales tax is 8.75%

I went back to dealer today and was able to negotiate an 11.8% discount on MSRP.
I then added Audi Care which bumped the residual up to 54%.
I rolled acquisition into lease but offered first mo, tax title license and Audi Care upfront which came to around $1671

Monthly payment was $461 including tax for 15k / 36 . All in all I think it was a great deal. Sadly I left it on the table as the offer for my trade was far too low.

I couldn't have come this far if not for this forum and your help. I didn't get a car but I'm ok.

Sorry to hear that you couldn't get the deal you wanted. If there is a CarMax close by, take your car there and see what they offer you.

Also, check the "Real World Trade in Values" thread on the forums. Local experts can put a value on your car, as well.

brunof · January 2017

Michaell said:

brunof said:

Michaell said:

brunof said:
Hello Sir,

Still trying to make this deal happen. I'm going to pursue a bigger discount off MSRP but here's where we are at so far.

2017 A4 Ultra Season of Audi Package
+ Convenience
+ Heated Front Seats
+ Manhattan Grey Metallic
+ $950 Destination

MSRP $40775
Discount -$3603
Sales Price $37,172

+$795 Lease Acquisition

CA Sales Tax 8.75%
53% residual ($21,611)
Money Factor 0.72% APR or 0.0003
36mos / 15k

$1,500 down includes first months payment and $459 registration & fees.

$498/mo including tax

Just confirming these numbers line up. I will still push for a sales price discount closer to 12% which is reasonable for Southern California.

Thank You again for your time and assistance.

.00030 and 53% are the correct numbers.

If I add the acquisition fee to the selling price, I get $472/mo plus tax. What tax rate do you have?

If you can get 12% off sticker, that would be amazing. We normally suggest 6%.
Sales tax is 8.75%

I went back to dealer today and was able to negotiate an 11.8% discount on MSRP.
I then added Audi Care which bumped the residual up to 54%.
I rolled acquisition into lease but offered first mo, tax title license and Audi Care upfront which came to around $1671

Monthly payment was $461 including tax for 15k / 36 . All in all I think it was a great deal. Sadly I left it on the table as the offer for my trade was far too low.

I couldn't have come this far if not for this forum and your help. I didn't get a car but I'm ok.
Sorry to hear that you couldn't get the deal you wanted. If there is a CarMax close by, take your car there and see what they offer you.

Also, check the "Real World Trade in Values" thread on the forums. Local experts can put a value on your car, as well.

I'm actually taking the vehicle to CarMax tomorrow afternoon. I made the appt as soon as I got home. Thank you for the heads up on the other forum!

Again, I'm glad I was able to strike a good deal on the prospective new vehicle but I was ok with walking. Patience and common sense is just as important as good information.

I really can't thank you enough.

ruthvik819 · January 2017

ruthvik819 said:
hello, I leased a 2017 Audi A4 Premium plus with tech package. sticker price 48500.
Registered in Albany NY (8% tax )
36 months
10k miles /year
residual - 28159
I did 2500 down ( including tax , reg, 1st month and everything else )
monthly payment 430$
Please let me know if this is a decent deal or a bad deal. One of my friend wants to take the same deal so just want to find out whether this is ok or it can be reduced.

Michaell said:

What was the selling price?

For Audi, we suggest 6% off sticker.

Relative to MSRP, it does look good, but without all the numbers, we can only guess.

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The sticker price was 48500, The sale price was 43900 after 1 month of negotiations

ak_niner · January 2017

What would be the Residual and MF for 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus with Tech Package. 15K / 36 in California Bay Area. Thank you!

theandylee · January 2017

Hello kind sir,

Please provide info for:

2017 base 2.0 - no packages
California
36 / 12,000 and 15,000

Would the Res. and MF numbers if I go to lease, say, in May?

Thanks in advance

kyfdx · January 2017

ruthvik819 said:

ruthvik819 said:
hello, I leased a 2017 Audi A4 Premium plus with tech package. sticker price 48500.
Registered in Albany NY (8% tax )
36 months
10k miles /year
residual - 28159
I did 2500 down ( including tax , reg, 1st month and everything else )
monthly payment 430$
Please let me know if this is a decent deal or a bad deal. One of my friend wants to take the same deal so just want to find out whether this is ok or it can be reduced.

Michaell said:

What was the selling price?

For Audi, we suggest 6% off sticker.

Relative to MSRP, it does look good, but without all the numbers, we can only guess.

---------------------------------------------------
The sticker price was 48500, The sale price was 43900 after 1 month of negotiations

Looks like a pretty good deal.

kyfdx · January 2017

ak_niner said:
What would be the Residual and MF for 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus with Tech Package. 15K / 36 in California Bay Area. Thank you!

FWD or Quattro?

kyfdx · January 2017

theandylee said:
Hello kind sir,

Please provide info for:

2017 base 2.0 - no packages
California
36 / 12,000 and 15,000

Would the Res. and MF numbers if I go to lease, say, in May?

Thanks in advance

FWD or Quattro?

Premium is the base model.

ak_niner · January 2017

kyfdx said:

ak_niner said:
What would be the Residual and MF for 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus with Tech Package. 15K / 36 in California Bay Area. Thank you!
FWD or Quattro?

Can I have both please?

Michaell · January 2017

ak_niner said:

kyfdx said:

ak_niner said:
What would be the Residual and MF for 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus with Tech Package. 15K / 36 in California Bay Area. Thank you!
FWD or Quattro?
Can I have both please?

FWD - .00011 and 52%
Quattro - .00043 and 54%

basilpesto · January 2017

When is the Adj. Cap Cost not needed for lease calculations? If I decide to pay all the fees up front, is this info relevant?

Michaell · January 2017

basilpesto said:
When is the Adj. Cap Cost not needed for lease calculations? If I decide to pay all the fees up front, is this info relevant?

Yes, in that case the adjusted cap cost is the negotiated selling price.

brunof · January 2017

Does the dealer or Audi Financial Services determine excess mileage fee? One offer listed excess as .15 and new dealer lists .25

This is for a 2017 PP 15k per 36mos.

Michaell · January 2017

brunof said:
Does the dealer or Audi Financial Services determine excess mileage fee? One offer listed excess as .15 and new dealer lists .25

This is for a 2017 PP 15k per 36mos.

.15 if you buy the extra miles up front, .25 if you pay for them at the end of the lease.

brunof · January 2017

Michaell said:

brunof said:
Hello Sir,

Still trying to make this deal happen. I'm going to pursue a bigger discount off MSRP but here's where we are at so far.

2017 A4 Ultra Season of Audi Package
+ Convenience
+ Heated Front Seats
+ Manhattan Grey Metallic
+ $950 Destination

MSRP $40775
Discount -$3603
Sales Price $37,172

+$795 Lease Acquisition

CA Sales Tax 8.75%
53% residual ($21,611)
Money Factor 0.72% APR or 0.0003
36mos / 15k

$1,500 down includes first months payment and $459 registration & fees.

$498/mo including tax

Just confirming these numbers line up. I will still push for a sales price discount closer to 12% which is reasonable for Southern California.

Thank You again for your time and assistance.

.00030 and 53% are the correct numbers.

If I add the acquisition fee to the selling price, I get $472/mo plus tax. What tax rate do you have?

If you can get 12% off sticker, that would be amazing. We normally suggest 6%.

Went to another dealer today to give it one more shot. I was able to strike a deal for a Premium Plus w/ Sport Package and 19" Wheels at 13% off MSRP.

Residuals and MF checked out perfectly. Our calculations were only off by .17 cents per month after tax. I paid first month, acquisition fee, reg / tax title license upfront and AND despite this vehicle MSRP'ing for $3625 MORE than the config you helped me with, I was able to get my monthly payment WITH AUDI CARE for $485 including tax.

I'm a happy camper.

Thank You very much for all your time and support.

Michaell · January 2017

brunof said:

Michaell said:

brunof said:
Hello Sir,

Still trying to make this deal happen. I'm going to pursue a bigger discount off MSRP but here's where we are at so far.

2017 A4 Ultra Season of Audi Package
+ Convenience
+ Heated Front Seats
+ Manhattan Grey Metallic
+ $950 Destination

MSRP $40775
Discount -$3603
Sales Price $37,172

+$795 Lease Acquisition

CA Sales Tax 8.75%
53% residual ($21,611)
Money Factor 0.72% APR or 0.0003
36mos / 15k

$1,500 down includes first months payment and $459 registration & fees.

$498/mo including tax

Just confirming these numbers line up. I will still push for a sales price discount closer to 12% which is reasonable for Southern California.

Thank You again for your time and assistance.

.00030 and 53% are the correct numbers.

If I add the acquisition fee to the selling price, I get $472/mo plus tax. What tax rate do you have?

If you can get 12% off sticker, that would be amazing. We normally suggest 6%.
Went to another dealer today to give it one more shot. I was able to strike a deal for a Premium Plus w/ Sport Package and 19" Wheels at 13% off MSRP.

Residuals and MF checked out perfectly. Our calculations were only off by .17 cents per month after tax.

I'm a happy camper.

Thank You very much for all your time and support.

Congrats! I'm guessing they gave you a fair number on your trade?

brunof · January 2017

Michaell said:

brunof said:

Michaell said:

brunof said:
Hello Sir,

Still trying to make this deal happen. I'm going to pursue a bigger discount off MSRP but here's where we are at so far.

2017 A4 Ultra Season of Audi Package
+ Convenience
+ Heated Front Seats
+ Manhattan Grey Metallic
+ $950 Destination

MSRP $40775
Discount -$3603
Sales Price $37,172

+$795 Lease Acquisition

CA Sales Tax 8.75%
53% residual ($21,611)
Money Factor 0.72% APR or 0.0003
36mos / 15k

$1,500 down includes first months payment and $459 registration & fees.

$498/mo including tax

Just confirming these numbers line up. I will still push for a sales price discount closer to 12% which is reasonable for Southern California.

Thank You again for your time and assistance.

.00030 and 53% are the correct numbers.

If I add the acquisition fee to the selling price, I get $472/mo plus tax. What tax rate do you have?

If you can get 12% off sticker, that would be amazing. We normally suggest 6%.
Went to another dealer today to give it one more shot. I was able to strike a deal for a Premium Plus w/ Sport Package and 19" Wheels at 13% off MSRP.

Residuals and MF checked out perfectly. Our calculations were only off by .17 cents per month after tax.

I'm a happy camper.

Thank You very much for all your time and support.
Congrats! I'm guessing they gave you a fair number on your trade?

I handled the sale of my current vehicle elsewhere.

Michaell · January 2017

brunof said:

Michaell said:

brunof said:

Michaell said:

brunof said:
Hello Sir,

Still trying to make this deal happen. I'm going to pursue a bigger discount off MSRP but here's where we are at so far.

2017 A4 Ultra Season of Audi Package
+ Convenience
+ Heated Front Seats
+ Manhattan Grey Metallic
+ $950 Destination

MSRP $40775
Discount -$3603
Sales Price $37,172

+$795 Lease Acquisition

CA Sales Tax 8.75%
53% residual ($21,611)
Money Factor 0.72% APR or 0.0003
36mos / 15k

$1,500 down includes first months payment and $459 registration & fees.

$498/mo including tax

Just confirming these numbers line up. I will still push for a sales price discount closer to 12% which is reasonable for Southern California.

Thank You again for your time and assistance.

.00030 and 53% are the correct numbers.

If I add the acquisition fee to the selling price, I get $472/mo plus tax. What tax rate do you have?

If you can get 12% off sticker, that would be amazing. We normally suggest 6%.
Went to another dealer today to give it one more shot. I was able to strike a deal for a Premium Plus w/ Sport Package and 19" Wheels at 13% off MSRP.

Residuals and MF checked out perfectly. Our calculations were only off by .17 cents per month after tax.

I'm a happy camper.

Thank You very much for all your time and support.
Congrats! I'm guessing they gave you a fair number on your trade?
I handled the sale of my current vehicle elsewhere.

Even better. Enjoy the new Audi!

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sdaigneault · February 2017

Long time reader, first time poster!

I'm planning to lease a 2017 Audi A4 - Quattro - Premium Plus in Atlanta, GA in the next 60 days. I'd like to alert dealers there to keep an eye out for a car with the color and package combination I want.

What would fair MF and residual % be for that car?

Would you recommend I just order it - or wait for a car that gets close to my combination of color / packages that I want?

Thanks!
Steve

kyfdx · February 2017

sdaigneault said:
Long time reader, first time poster!

I'm planning to lease a 2017 Audi A4 - Quattro - Premium Plus in Atlanta, GA in the next 60 days. I'd like to alert dealers there to keep an eye out for a car with the color and package combination I want.

What would fair MF and residual % be for that car?

Would you recommend I just order it - or wait for a car that gets close to my combination of color / packages that I want?

Thanks!
Steve

.00043 MF and 54% residual for 36/15.

You can almost always make a better deal on a car that is already on the lot.

sdaigneault · February 2017

kyfdx said:

.00043 MF and 54% residual for 36/15.

You can almost always make a better deal on a car that is already on the lot.

Thanks - how does that change for 36/12 or 36/10?

Michaell · February 2017

sdaigneault said:

kyfdx said:

.00043 MF and 54% residual for 36/15.

You can almost always make a better deal on a car that is already on the lot.
Thanks - how does that change for 36/12 or 36/10?

Add 2% for 12K or 3% for 10K

ak_niner · February 2017

What would the MF/Residual for a Season of Audi with Convenience Package in California Bay area. The term is 15k / 36.

Michaell · February 2017

ak_niner said:
What would the MF/Residual for a Season of Audi with Convenience Package in California Bay area. The term is 15k / 36.

Ultra or Quattro?

ccambria · February 2017

Looking for MF and residual for a lease in texas: Audi A4 quattro, Premium plus with Technology Package. 36 months 12k and 36 months 15k. Thanks for the help!!

sdaigneault · February 2017

Question - when I'm talking to dealers - what details do I want them to give me about the lease? Obviously the price - but is there a list of factors in the agreement that I can just proactively ask up front from them so I can easily compare offers?

Michaell · February 2017

ccambria said:
Looking for MF and residual for a lease in texas: Audi A4 quattro, Premium plus with Technology Package. 36 months 12k and 36 months 15k. Thanks for the help!!

.00043 and 56% / 54%

$1000 bonus cash and complimentary first payment.

Michaell · February 2017

sdaigneault said:
Question - when I'm talking to dealers - what details do I want them to give me about the lease? Obviously the price - but is there a list of factors in the agreement that I can just proactively ask up front from them so I can easily compare offers?

The residual is fixed; no need to discuss that.

Tell them, politely, that you won't sign any lease deal where the MF has been marked up. You don't have to tell them the value; they already know.

Best thing to do is to ask them for the adjusted cap cost - you want to only pay the first payment and DMV costs at signing. Everything else rolls into the payment. That way, you can tell if dealers are trying to bury junk fees into the offer.

ak_niner · February 2017

Michaell said:

ak_niner said:
What would the MF/Residual for a Season of Audi with Convenience Package in California Bay area. The term is 15k / 36.
Ultra or Quattro?

Quattro please.

Michaell · February 2017

ak_niner said:

Michaell said:

ak_niner said:
What would the MF/Residual for a Season of Audi with Convenience Package in California Bay area. The term is 15k / 36.
Ultra or Quattro?
Quattro please.

.00043 and 56%

ak_niner · February 2017

The MF's the dealers are quoting are way off. One dealer quoted .0012 and the other dealer quoted .0009
Will they bring the MF down if I ask?

nlclhc1 · February 2017

@ak_niner If they don't, find another one.

kyfdx · February 2017

ak_niner said:
The MF's the dealers are quoting are way off. One dealer quoted .0012 and the other dealer quoted .0009
Will they bring the MF down if I ask?

It's part of the negotiation. Prepare for them to lie about it.

ddt1283 · February 2017

Hello,

Just wanted to see whether this lease deal seemed reasonable:
Texas, Premium Quattro with convenience/18" wheel package/front seat heat + AudiCare, 15k miles/42mon, $3000 down for $586/mon (after taxes/fees)
MSRP is $43,425
Base/negotiated price 40,000
I have very good/excellent credit

Thanks!

Michaell · February 2017

ddt1283 said:
Hello,

Just wanted to see whether this lease deal seemed reasonable:
Texas, Premium Quattro with convenience/18" wheel package/front seat heat + AudiCare, 15k miles/42mon, $3000 down for $586/mon (after taxes/fees)
MSRP is $43,425
Base/negotiated price 40,000
I have very good/excellent credit

Thanks!

What is the adjusted cap cost, if the taxes and fees are rolled in?

What is the breakdown of the $3000 up front?

.00063 and 50%

Your prices result in a $474/mo payment.

ddt1283 · February 2017

Thanks. Adjusted cap cost is 42865. The 3000 is split into my first monthly payment and remainder to capitalized cost reduction.

kyfdx · February 2017

ddt1283 said:
Thanks. Adjusted cap cost is 42865. The 3000 is split into my first monthly payment and remainder to capitalized cost reduction.

With that adjusted CAP, I get $544/mo.

I'd verify the money factor.

billku · February 2017

Ugh, my prestige is still in port under the sales hold, waiting for it to be released to the carrier. Until then, would love the February MF + Res numbers (in case they're better than the ones I have locked in when I ordered) for southern California, FWD Prestige A4, 36 months/7500 Miles per year. Any incentives for So. Cal this month? Thanks so much...

kyfdx · February 2017

billku said:
Ugh, my prestige is still in port under the sales hold, waiting for it to be released to the carrier. Until then, would love the February MF + Res numbers (in case they're better than the ones I have locked in when I ordered) for southern California, FWD Prestige A4, 36 months/7500 Miles per year. Any incentives for So. Cal this month? Thanks so much...

.00011 MF and 53% residual

No incentives for the Western Region

billku · February 2017

kyfdx said:

billku said:
Ugh, my prestige is still in port under the sales hold, waiting for it to be released to the carrier. Until then, would love the February MF + Res numbers (in case they're better than the ones I have locked in when I ordered) for southern California, FWD Prestige A4, 36 months/7500 Miles per year. Any incentives for So. Cal this month? Thanks so much...
.00011 MF and 53% residual

No incentives for the Western Region

Thanks so much. So weird how the western region gets the shaft on incentives.

twindad2004 · February 2017

Wondering what the February deals are: 2017 A4 Premium Plus Quattro w/ Audi Care: MF, residual percent, loyalty cash, Audi Finance bonus, and anything else that's active now. Current IL lessee, looking to get a new one. 12k and 15k options, please. THANK YOU for your help and all the info you share with us all.

kyfdx · February 2017

twindad2004 said:
Wondering what the February deals are: 2017 A4 Premium Plus Quattro w/ Audi Care: MF, residual percent, loyalty cash, Audi Finance bonus, and anything else that's active now. Current IL lessee, looking to get a new one. 12k and 15k options, please. THANK YOU for your help and all the info you share with us all.

.00043 MF and 56%/54% residual for 12K/15K for 36 months
Add 1% if purchasing AudiCare.
$1000 Bonus Cash
$750 loyalty
Complimentary 1st payment.

twindad2004 · February 2017

Thank you very much! Two more questions: do you know if the pull ahead program can be combined with complimentary 1st payment AND the bonus cash and loyalty cash? In IL, what is sales tax based on? The total of the lease payments or the MSRP minus the residual value? Thanks again!

lexusguy23 · February 2017

Hi,

Can I get the numbers for 2017 Audi A4 2.0T ultra Premium in TX for 36/12 term? Any incentives or lease cash available? Thank you!

Michaell · February 2017

twindad2004 said:
Thank you very much! Two more questions: do you know if the pull ahead program can be combined with complimentary 1st payment AND the bonus cash and loyalty cash? In IL, what is sales tax based on? The total of the lease payments or the MSRP minus the residual value? Thanks again!

Don't know how the programs combine.

I believe IL taxes the sum of the monthly lease payments, which includes the rent charge.

If you live in Cook County (or the City of Chicago, I don't know which), the monthly lease payment is subject to the local sales tax.

Michaell · February 2017

lexusguy23 said:
Hi,

Can I get the numbers for 2017 Audi A4 2.0T ultra Premium in TX for 36/12 term? Any incentives or lease cash available? Thank you!

.00030 and 54%.

$1000 bonus cash and complimentary first payment

kyfdx · February 2017

twindad2004 said:
Thank you very much! Two more questions: do you know if the pull ahead program can be combined with complimentary 1st payment AND the bonus cash and loyalty cash? In IL, what is sales tax based on? The total of the lease payments or the MSRP minus the residual value? Thanks again!

Loyalty cash cannot be combined with the pull ahead program

sdaigneault · February 2017

Looking for feedback on this lease offer for a Prem Plus Quattro in Georgia. They are getting the car from another dealer out of state.

MSRP: $49,125
Negotiated price: $44,991
Sales Tax: $3,205
Doc fee: $599
GA Warranty Fee: $3
GA License: $26
Out of state license: $150
GA title: $18
Total Price: $48,992

36 months / 12,000 miles - lease payment of $681.79

The sales person said they are using .00043 as the money factor but that doesn't seem right, it should be more like $631 instead.

Anyway, curious to hear if 1) you think the MF is off; 2) there is room to negotiate on the price; 3) other fees you think could be negotiated.

Thanks!

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