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  • m_garozzom_garozzo Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2017
    I'm at 7.75 in SoCal. The $510.10 is tax inclusive and with audi care
  • m_garozzom_garozzo Member Posts: 18
    In socal, tax is 7.75%.  The $510.10 includes tax and audi care
  • m_garozzom_garozzo Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2017
    Here is the workup

    im around $467.5 down Plus first month from Audi is the cap cost reduction 

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    m_garozzo said:

    Here is the workup

    im around $467.5 down Plus first month from Audi is the cap cost reduction 

    Rotate it and re-post

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  • m_garozzom_garozzo Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2017
    Sorry can't rotate I'm on my phone. Here are the basic numbers:
    MSRP $49360
    discount $6200
    Gross Cap $43160
    Cap reduction $963.12 (of which 495.62 is 1st month rebate from Audi)

    Net Capitalized cost $42196.88
    MF 0.00041
    Residual 54% or $26654.40

    Total due at delivery was $2514.07 made up of:
    Upfront charges $1550.95 (Delivery, Tags, document fee) + first month + cap reduction of $467.50 

    Payment is $495.62 ($459.67 + $35.65 tax)
    SoCal and includes Audi Care for 36 months and 12k per year

    Payment matched my calculations to the penny.  How did I do?
     
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    m_garozzo said:

    Sorry can't rotate I'm on my phone. Here are the basic numbers:
    MSRP $49360
    discount $6200
    Gross Cap $43160
    Cap reduction $963.12 (of which 495.62 is 1st month rebate from Audi)

    Net Capitalized cost $42196.88
    MF 0.00041
    Residual 54% or $26654.40

    Total due at delivery was $2514.07 made up of:
    Upfront charges $1550.95 (Delivery, Tags, document fee) + first month + cap reduction of $467.50 

    Payment is $495.62 ($459.67 + $35.65 tax)
    SoCal and includes Audi Care for 36 months and 12k per year

    Payment matched my calculations to the penny.  How did I do?
     

    It looks pretty good. Given the lease program available, it's a good deal.

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  • stromquiststromquist Member Posts: 1
    Great info! Looking for MF and residual 2017 Audi A4 2.0T Ultra Premium 36/10 in Atlanta, GA.

    Thank you
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659

    Great info! Looking for MF and residual 2017 Audi A4 2.0T Ultra Premium 36/10 in Atlanta, GA.

    Thank you

    .00037 MF and 53% residual
    Complimentary 1st payment

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  • goldenmustachegoldenmustache Member Posts: 4
    I'm in Las Vegas and am interested in a 17 Prestige A4 that has a sticker price of $55,590.

    My first call got me a whopping 1024 a month quote with 1k down 12/36.

    They then came back with a 5k discount on the car which brought the lease down to 756 which is also wacky number off of 5k MSRP reduction

    That's still way too much money for an A4.

    We have 8.1% tax what is a realistic number I should be negotiating for.

    I thought for sure I could get into it for under $650 tax included with no money down, is that really a reach?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266

    I'm in Las Vegas and am interested in a 17 Prestige A4 that has a sticker price of $55,590.

    My first call got me a whopping 1024 a month quote with 1k down 12/36.

    They then came back with a 5k discount on the car which brought the lease down to 756 which is also wacky number off of 5k MSRP reduction

    That's still way too much money for an A4.

    We have 8.1% tax what is a realistic number I should be negotiating for.

    I thought for sure I could get into it for under $650 tax included with no money down, is that really a reach?

    $5K off sticker? That's a tremendous discount.

    Is this for FWD or Quattro?

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  • j24audij24audi Member Posts: 13
    Hello

    I am in VA looking at a 2017 A4 Premium Plus.

    I have received the following quote - the payment looks high to me - any tips?

    Thank you!!
  • j24audij24audi Member Posts: 13
    sorry - should mention 36/12 terms
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    j24audi said:

    Hello

    I am in VA looking at a 2017 A4 Premium Plus.

    I have received the following quote - the payment looks high to me - any tips?

    Thank you!!

    j24audi said:

    sorry - should mention 36/12 terms

    I agree with the MF and residual.

    VA has this nasty habit of charging sales tax against the entire selling price, which jacks up the lease payment.

    The math is correct.

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  • j24audij24audi Member Posts: 13
    Awesome, thank you! How much better off would I be leasing in Maryland?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    j24audi said:

    Awesome, thank you! How much better off would I be leasing in Maryland?

    None - you pay tax based on where you live, not where you get the car from.

    FWIW, MD also taxes the entire selling price.

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  • j24audij24audi Member Posts: 13
    Thank you sir!
  • frank_d1frank_d1 Member Posts: 1
    I'm in NY and sales tax is 7.375%. Looking to lease a 2017 A4 with premium plus, tech and cold weather packages, all weather floor mats, usb cables, wheel lock kit and gray oak inlays. Lease is 36 months, 12k miles.

    MSRP is $48,655.00
    Sale price is $44,339.43
    Residual % is 54%
    Adjusted cap cost is $43,957.43

    I'm paying taxes and some fees (about $3k out of pocket). Lease payment quoted per month is $520. Good deal?
  • steve_j22steve_j22 Member Posts: 2
    Looking for estimated lease payment (36/10k) in Texas (Tax 6.25%). 2018 A4 Premium Plus with Tech Pkg AWD - MSRP $48,900. Is negotiating down to around 45k realistic, and if so what might that monthly payment be? Assuming downpayment of all TTL. Much appreciated!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    frank_d1 said:

    I'm in NY and sales tax is 7.375%. Looking to lease a 2017 A4 with premium plus, tech and cold weather packages, all weather floor mats, usb cables, wheel lock kit and gray oak inlays. Lease is 36 months, 12k miles.

    MSRP is $48,655.00
    Sale price is $44,339.43
    Residual % is 54%
    Adjusted cap cost is $43,957.43

    I'm paying taxes and some fees (about $3k out of pocket). Lease payment quoted per month is $520. Good deal?

    .00041 MF, assuming Quattro.

    I get $520/mo on the nose, with those numbers.

    However, we'd suggest you roll the taxes and bank fees into the adjusted cap. You'll have a higher payment, but your out of pocket will drop dramatically.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    steve_j22 said:

    Looking for estimated lease payment (36/10k) in Texas (Tax 6.25%). 2018 A4 Premium Plus with Tech Pkg AWD - MSRP $48,900. Is negotiating down to around 45k realistic, and if so what might that monthly payment be? Assuming downpayment of all TTL. Much appreciated!

    .00041 and 55%

    With your MSRP and selling price, I get $532/mo

    We do, however, suggest that you only pay the first payment and DMV costs at signing - roll the taxes and fees into the lease payment.

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  • steve_j22steve_j22 Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    steve_j22 said:

    Looking for estimated lease payment (36/10k) in Texas (Tax 6.25%). 2018 A4 Premium Plus with Tech Pkg AWD - MSRP $48,900. Is negotiating down to around 45k realistic, and if so what might that monthly payment be? Assuming downpayment of all TTL. Much appreciated!

    .00041 and 55%

    With your MSRP and selling price, I get $532/mo

    We do, however, suggest that you only pay the first payment and DMV costs at signing - roll the taxes and fees into the lease payment.
    ------------------------------------------
    Thank you so much! Knowing this information, we were able to get a few dollars under - which I am sure we would not have been had we been less informed. Much appreciated!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    steve_j22 said:

    Michaell said:

    steve_j22 said:

    Looking for estimated lease payment (36/10k) in Texas (Tax 6.25%). 2018 A4 Premium Plus with Tech Pkg AWD - MSRP $48,900. Is negotiating down to around 45k realistic, and if so what might that monthly payment be? Assuming downpayment of all TTL. Much appreciated!

    .00041 and 55%

    With your MSRP and selling price, I get $532/mo

    We do, however, suggest that you only pay the first payment and DMV costs at signing - roll the taxes and fees into the lease payment.
    ------------------------------------------
    Thank you so much! Knowing this information, we were able to get a few dollars under - which I am sure we would not have been had we been less informed. Much appreciated!
    Congrats!

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  • jhfredjrjhfredjr Member Posts: 12
    Hello could I please get the MF, RV, incentives and rebates on a 2017 A4 Quattro both the P+ and Prestige for 36mo/12k in St. Louis, MO? Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    jhfredjr said:

    Hello could I please get the MF, RV, incentives and rebates on a 2017 A4 Quattro both the P+ and Prestige for 36mo/12k in St. Louis, MO? Thanks in advance.

    .00041 and 54% (P+) or 49% (Prestige)

    $1000 marketing allowance and complimentary first payment

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  • dawkins20dawkins20 Member Posts: 50
    Michaell said:
    Hello could I please get the MF, RV, incentives and rebates on a 2017 A4 Quattro both the P+ and Prestige for 36mo/12k in St. Louis, MO? Thanks in advance.
    .00041 and 54% (P+) or 49% (Prestige) $1000 marketing allowance and complimentary first payment
    Is the marketing allowance regional ?  If so is it in PA /NJ
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    dawkins20 said:


    Michaell said:

    jhfredjr said:

    Hello could I please get the MF, RV, incentives and rebates on a 2017 A4 Quattro both the P+ and Prestige for 36mo/12k in St. Louis, MO? Thanks in advance.

    .00041 and 54% (P+) or 49% (Prestige)

    $1000 marketing allowance and complimentary first payment

    Is the marketing allowance regional ?  If so is it in PA /NJ

    Yes.. no marketing allowance in PA, but complimentary 1st payment is still there.

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  • audiswfl1audiswfl1 Member Posts: 9
    A dealer here in South FL has a 2017 A4 P+ with a 6 speed manual, with an MSRP of $51,875. They're offering a $3,358.88 discount as well as a $750 owner loyalty discount. They are currently quoting me at $752/mo with $0 due at signing for 36mo/7,500mi with a MF of .00144. Should I expect a larger discount being that they are already receiving the 2018 models? I am torn between trying to get a better price on that car, or ordering a 2018. Is the MSRP on a custom build negotiable? Thank you!!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    audiswfl1 said:

    A dealer here in South FL has a 2017 A4 P+ with a 6 speed manual, with an MSRP of $51,875. They're offering a $3,358.88 discount as well as a $750 owner loyalty discount. They are currently quoting me at $752/mo with $0 due at signing for 36mo/7,500mi with a MF of .00144. Should I expect a larger discount being that they are already receiving the 2018 models? I am torn between trying to get a better price on that car, or ordering a 2018. Is the MSRP on a custom build negotiable? Thank you!!

    FWD or Quattro?

    Either way, MF is marked up.

    This is not a good deal, at all.

    Your target is 6% off sticker, before any available incentives. If you can get more, the better.

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  • audiswfl1audiswfl1 Member Posts: 9
    I apologize, it is a Quattro.
    Michaell said:

    audiswfl1 said:

    A dealer here in South FL has a 2017 A4 P+ with a 6 speed manual, with an MSRP of $51,875. They're offering a $3,358.88 discount as well as a $750 owner loyalty discount. They are currently quoting me at $752/mo with $0 due at signing for 36mo/7,500mi with a MF of .00144. Should I expect a larger discount being that they are already receiving the 2018 models? I am torn between trying to get a better price on that car, or ordering a 2018. Is the MSRP on a custom build negotiable? Thank you!!

    FWD or Quattro?

    Either way, MF is marked up.

    This is not a good deal, at all.

    Your target is 6% off sticker, before any available incentives. If you can get more, the better.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    audiswfl1 said:

    I apologize, it is a Quattro.

    Michaell said:

    audiswfl1 said:

    A dealer here in South FL has a 2017 A4 P+ with a 6 speed manual, with an MSRP of $51,875. They're offering a $3,358.88 discount as well as a $750 owner loyalty discount. They are currently quoting me at $752/mo with $0 due at signing for 36mo/7,500mi with a MF of .00144. Should I expect a larger discount being that they are already receiving the 2018 models? I am torn between trying to get a better price on that car, or ordering a 2018. Is the MSRP on a custom build negotiable? Thank you!!

    FWD or Quattro?

    Either way, MF is marked up.

    This is not a good deal, at all.

    Your target is 6% off sticker, before any available incentives. If you can get more, the better.
    .00041 and 56%

    With your MSRP and selling price, I get $573/mo before tax.

    You are already getting about 6.5% off sticker; the MF bump is adding about $80/mo to the monthly payment.

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  • audiswfl1audiswfl1 Member Posts: 9
    Just did the math myself and got the same result. I will be going to the dealership tomorrow to see what I can accomplish. Thanks for all of your help!!!
    Michaell said:

    audiswfl1 said:

    I apologize, it is a Quattro.

    Michaell said:

    audiswfl1 said:

    A dealer here in South FL has a 2017 A4 P+ with a 6 speed manual, with an MSRP of $51,875. They're offering a $3,358.88 discount as well as a $750 owner loyalty discount. They are currently quoting me at $752/mo with $0 due at signing for 36mo/7,500mi with a MF of .00144. Should I expect a larger discount being that they are already receiving the 2018 models? I am torn between trying to get a better price on that car, or ordering a 2018. Is the MSRP on a custom build negotiable? Thank you!!

    FWD or Quattro?

    Either way, MF is marked up.

    This is not a good deal, at all.

    Your target is 6% off sticker, before any available incentives. If you can get more, the better.
    .00041 and 56%

    With your MSRP and selling price, I get $573/mo before tax.

    You are already getting about 6.5% off sticker; the MF bump is adding about $80/mo to the monthly payment.
  • audiswfl1audiswfl1 Member Posts: 9
    Hi, I found a pretty cheap A4 Premium, Quattro w/ manual transmission (MSRP of $42,050.) Can I have the MF and Residual on this car with 36mo/12k mi/year? Thank you!!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    audiswfl1 said:

    Hi, I found a pretty cheap A4 Premium, Quattro w/ manual transmission (MSRP of $42,050.) Can I have the MF and Residual on this car with 36mo/12k mi/year? Thank you!!

    .00041 and 54%

    What state is this? Audi incentives are regional.

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  • audiswfl1audiswfl1 Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:
    Hi, I found a pretty cheap A4 Premium, Quattro w/ manual transmission (MSRP of $42,050.) Can I have the MF and Residual on this car with 36mo/12k mi/year? Thank you!!
    .00041 and 54% What state is this? Audi incentives are regional.
    I’m in South Florida. The dealer says they will honor a $750 loyalty rebate. As well as the Summer of Audi event which is covering the first months payment!

    Should I expect roughly 6% off the MSRP on this vehicle? Thank you in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    audiswfl1 said:


    Michaell said:

    audiswfl1 said:

    Hi, I found a pretty cheap A4 Premium, Quattro w/ manual transmission (MSRP of $42,050.) Can I have the MF and Residual on this car with 36mo/12k mi/year? Thank you!!

    .00041 and 54%

    What state is this? Audi incentives are regional.

    I’m in South Florida. The dealer says they will honor a $750 loyalty rebate. As well as the Summer of Audi event which is covering the first months payment!

    Should I expect roughly 6% off the MSRP on this vehicle? Thank you in advance.

    6% off MSRP is a good target for Audi.

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  • undftds7undftds7 Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2017
    Evening - Could I please have the 36 month residuals for a 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus 2.0T Quattro in Texas? 

    In particular I have the following questions...
    1. Residuals for 10/12/15K miles and 36 months. 
    2. MF for each if they vary. 
    3. Does Audi care still raise the residual? 
    4. First payment paid? 

    Thank you! 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    undftds7 said:

    Evening - Could I please have the 36 month residuals for a 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus 2.0T Quattro in Texas? 

    In particular I have the following questions...
    1. Residuals for 10/12/15K miles and 36 months. 
    2. MF for each if they vary. 
    3. Does Audi care still raise the residual? 
    4. First payment paid? 

    Thank you! 

    1. 55% / 54% / 52%
    2. .00041
    3. Yes, 1%
    4. Yes

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  • editormaneditorman Member Posts: 1
    Hi,
    I'm looking at an 2017 Audi P+ 2.0 Quattro lease with tech pkg in Los Angeles.
    36/10K
    MSRP: 48625
    Sale Price: 42,790
    What MF and Residual should I be looking for?
    What would monthly be with $1000 down?
    Is adding Audi Care worth it?
    Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    editorman said:

    Hi,
    I'm looking at an 2017 Audi P+ 2.0 Quattro lease with tech pkg in Los Angeles.
    36/10K
    MSRP: 48625
    Sale Price: 42,790
    What MF and Residual should I be looking for?
    What would monthly be with $1000 down?
    Is adding Audi Care worth it?
    Thanks.

    .00041 and 55%

    Using your prices, I get $474/mo plus tax

    AudiCare adds 1% to the residual, so it is a good deal.

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  • undftds7undftds7 Member Posts: 3
    Michael- would you agree the sweet spot is the 12k a year as it's two residual points above the15k? 

    Also - thoughts on comparing a 2017 to a 2018 - 2018 residuals are worth yet 2 residual points more over a comparable 2017 yet the MF is higher at .00093 vs .00041...
  • dawkins20dawkins20 Member Posts: 50
    Michaell said:
    Hello could I please get the MF, RV, incentives and rebates on a 2017 A4 Quattro both the P+ and Prestige for 36mo/12k in St. Louis, MO? Thanks in advance.
    .00041 and 54% (P+) or 49% (Prestige) $1000 marketing allowance and complimentary first payment
    Is the marketing allowance regional ?  If so is it in PA /NJ?  Also are these numbers the same for the Allroad ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    undftds7 said:

    Michael- would you agree the sweet spot is the 12k a year as it's two residual points above the15k? 

    Also - thoughts on comparing a 2017 to a 2018 - 2018 residuals are worth yet 2 residual points more over a comparable 2017 yet the MF is higher at .00093 vs .00041...

    You should get the number of miles that you think you'll drive.

    You'd have to run the numbers for both the 2017 and 2018 to see which is better - not sure of what upgrades you would get in the '18.

    And, you may get a bigger discount from sticker on the 2017.

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  • audiswfl1audiswfl1 Member Posts: 9
    Hi, Ive gotten a quote from a local dealer here in South Florida on a 17' A4 P+ MSRP of $51,675. They're giving me $7,208.53 off the MSRP. They've used the money factor of .00041 and residual of 54% like Michaell provided me. At 36mo/12k miles, with $1,500 due at signing, and $750 owner loyalty, they've got me at $520/mo tax included. Does this sound good? I'm still getting a number lower than that with my calculations but they swear this is the right price. Im planning to buy the car tomorrow morning, but just want to ensure I'm getting the best price possible. If I agree to $520/mo but request 15k miles per year, do you think they'd keep me at $520?
  • airballer9airballer9 Member Posts: 1
    Hello,
    Could I get the residuals and MF for 2017 Audi A4 Ultra Premium FWD 36/10 and 36/12 in California?

    Thank you!
  • mark1324mark1324 Member Posts: 2
    Hi:
    Need some help understanding a Audi A4 P+ Quattro Auto lease in northern suburbs of Chicago. Drive a lot of miles and usually lease with 20K / year.

    What would be the following for my area for both 2017 & 2018 models (36/20):

    1) MF?
    2) Residual?
    3) Audi incentives?
    4) Approximatly how much off MSRP could I expect get?

    One dealer told me the monthly payment on a 2017 A4 P+ w/MSRP ~ $49.5K would be $ 760 /month with zero down which seemed very high to me. Need to understand if my payment target of under $600/month is feasible for an A4.

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    audiswfl1 said:

    Hi, Ive gotten a quote from a local dealer here in South Florida on a 17' A4 P+ MSRP of $51,675. They're giving me $7,208.53 off the MSRP. They've used the money factor of .00041 and residual of 54% like Michaell provided me. At 36mo/12k miles, with $1,500 due at signing, and $750 owner loyalty, they've got me at $520/mo tax included. Does this sound good? I'm still getting a number lower than that with my calculations but they swear this is the right price. Im planning to buy the car tomorrow morning, but just want to ensure I'm getting the best price possible. If I agree to $520/mo but request 15k miles per year, do you think they'd keep me at $520?

    Ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost - likely that some fees (dealer? acquisition?) are being added into the discounted selling price.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266

    Hello,
    Could I get the residuals and MF for 2017 Audi A4 Ultra Premium FWD 36/10 and 36/12 in California?

    Thank you!

    .00037 and 53% / 52%

    Complimentary first payment

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    mark1324 said:

    Hi:
    Need some help understanding a Audi A4 P+ Quattro Auto lease in northern suburbs of Chicago. Drive a lot of miles and usually lease with 20K / year.

    What would be the following for my area for both 2017 & 2018 models (36/20):

    1) MF?
    2) Residual?
    3) Audi incentives?
    4) Approximatly how much off MSRP could I expect get?

    One dealer told me the monthly payment on a 2017 A4 P+ w/MSRP ~ $49.5K would be $ 760 /month with zero down which seemed very high to me. Need to understand if my payment target of under $600/month is feasible for an A4.

    Thanks

    2017 information:
    .00041 MF
    52% for 36/15; extra miles will cost you, I think, .15/mile deducted from the calculated residual
    $1000 marketing allowance and complimentary first payment
    We usually suggest 6% off sticker price, but if you look at the post above, you'll see that larger discounts are possible

    2018 thread is here:
    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/45440/audi/a4/2018-audi-a4-lease-questions#latest

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    Hi,

    I have received a below quote for 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus quattro Automatic Purchase. I live in NJ.

    MSRP $49,125
    Guaranteed Savings - $3,582
    Dealer Fees & Accessories + $696
    Total Before Tax $46,238

    I would like to lease this vehicle 12K miles / 36months. Can you please let me know the following details?

    1. Any lease specials in NJ Area
    2. MF and Residual value for NJ 12K and 15K miles for 36 months
    3. Is $46,238 price good for purchase? If so, based on this proce, what should be my best lease payment per month for sign and drive ($0 down) for 12K / 36months before tax and dmv fee et al

    Thanks,
    Raj


    .00041 and 54% / 52%

    The only promotion we see for NJ is a complimentary first payment.

    Your price is just under 6% off sticker - as this is the end of the model year for the 2017's, you may be able to do better than that.

    With your prices, I get $577/mo for 36/12, and $604/mo for 36/15

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  • chihuangchihuang Member Posts: 3
    Hi, Michaell,

    I got two lease quotes from local delear in Texas for 2017 A4, 36/10k

    First one MSRP $43425, sale price $38200, MF 0.00041, RV 54%, 0 down, he told me the monthly $527 w/ tax.

    Second one MSRP $43425, sale price $36911, MF 0.00091, RV 54%, 0 down, he told me the monthly is also $527 w/ tax.

    However, my own calculate is different than the above quote, has he lied?
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