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  • johnlewis2johnlewis2 Member Posts: 20
    edited November 2017
    Thanks @Michaell and @kyfdx.

    I found a 2017 Quattro Premium Plus w/ Technology Package.

    Terms: 36/10k

    MSRP: $49,125
    Adjusted Cap: $41,838.11
    $2,100 at signing
    $447 + tax /month

    Thanks again for the assistance. Great resource!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266

    Thanks @Michaell and @kyfdx.

    I found a 2017 Quattro Premium Plus w/ Technology Package.

    Terms: 36/10k

    MSRP: $49,125
    Adjusted Cap: $41,838.11
    $2,100 at signing
    $447 + tax /month

    Thanks again for the assistance. Great resource!

    Congrats! Feel free to post a dealer review; there is a link in my signature block.

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  • nsr_chsnsr_chs Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2017
    What would be the residual and money factor for 2017 a4 premium plus Quattro automatic  in SC? For 10k and 12k miles Thank you 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    nsr_chs said:

    What would be the residual and money factor for 2017 a4 premium plus Quattro automatic  in SC? For 10k and 12k miles Thank you 

    .00022 MF and 54%/53% residual for 36 months
    $1500 marketing allowance
    complimentary 1st payment

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  • char2425char2425 Member Posts: 2
    New 2017 Audi A4 2.0T Premium Plus Sedan
    MSRP: $49,125
    Negotiated Price: $42,000

    State of SC Lease Offer:
    12k miles/36 months/$5k down based on $42k selling price

    Monthly payment: $435

    Residual Value: $26,527.50
    Money Factor:. 00120


    This was quoted on 10/31/2017 and I plan to go back this week to try and make a deal. 

    My questions are:

    1.)  Is this a good deal? 
    2.)  If not,  what parts do I need to renegotiate on?  

    I fell like the selling price is pretty fair but the money factor strikes me as being high. 

    Thanks! 

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    char2425 said:

    New 2017 Audi A4 2.0T Premium Plus Sedan
    MSRP: $49,125
    Negotiated Price: $42,000

    State of SC Lease Offer:
    12k miles/36 months/$5k down based on $42k selling price

    Monthly payment: $435

    Residual Value: $26,527.50
    Money Factor:. 00120


    This was quoted on 10/31/2017 and I plan to go back this week to try and make a deal. 

    My questions are:

    1.)  Is this a good deal? 
    2.)  If not,  what parts do I need to renegotiate on?  

    I fell like the selling price is pretty fair but the money factor strikes me as being high. 

    Thanks! 

    Is it FWD or Quattro?

    Either way, that's a massive markup in the money factor.
    Why put $5000 upfront on a lease?

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  • char2425char2425 Member Posts: 2
    It is a AWD quattro model. 

    The money down isn't required and more of a way to appease the wife in terms of monthly payments... 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    char2425 said:

    It is a AWD quattro model. 

    The money down isn't required and more of a way to appease the wife in terms of monthly payments... 

    That's a perfectly valid reason for a big downpayment.

    .00022 MF and 53% residual
    That's one percent lower than the residual they gave you in October.

    $5000 upfront:
    $895 acquisition fee
    $300 SC sales tax
    $500 dealer/DMV fees (estimated)
    $435 first payment (from previous quote)
    $2870 CAP reduction.

    $42000 minus $2870 = $39,130 adjusted CAP cost.
    $378/mo. payment with base .00022 MF
    $442/mo. with money factor marked up to .00120.

    I'd work on that money factor.

    If you get it down to .00022, you can put just $3000 upfront and still have that $435/mo. payment.


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  • nevets8nevets8 Member Posts: 32
    I have been trying to figure out why my lease calculations don't match the numbers from the dealer. this is for a 2017 A4 in south florida. Premium Plus and 12K/36 months with Audicare They claim they are using .00022 and 54% as the core numbers. (should the number be 55% with audicare?)

    I keep coming up with under $500 for the payment, so I'm missing something.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    nevets8 said:

    I have been trying to figure out why my lease calculations don't match the numbers from the dealer. this is for a 2017 A4 in south florida. Premium Plus and 12K/36 months with Audicare They claim they are using .00022 and 54% as the core numbers. (should the number be 55% with audicare?)

    I keep coming up with under $500 for the payment, so I'm missing something.

    My calculations are only a few cents off of that quote. Not sure what you're doing differently to get a sub $500 payment (with tax, I presume?)

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  • nevets8nevets8 Member Posts: 32
    am I using the wrong MSRP? I was using 46925. perhaps I was not using the lease credit in the correct way. my technique has always been Negotiated price- .54 (MSRP) = depreciation I have to pay over the 36 months, plus the car rental fee which is the (negotiated price + residual) * the MF.

    also: what about the residual? should they be using 55% since I have audicare?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    nevets8 said:

    am I using the wrong MSRP? I was using 46925. perhaps I was not using the lease credit in the correct way. my technique has always been Negotiated price- .54 (MSRP) = depreciation I have to pay over the 36 months, plus the car rental fee which is the (negotiated price + residual) * the MF.

    also: what about the residual? should they be using 55% since I have audicare?

    It's (adjusted CAP cost - residual) = depreciation.
    Not negotiated price, but adjusted CAP cost.

    36/12 residual is 53%
    +1% for AudiCare = 54%.

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  • nevets8nevets8 Member Posts: 32
    so in the above set of numbers, what is my Adjusted Cap Cost? Is that the MSRP plus other charges?
  • nevets8nevets8 Member Posts: 32
    and do you think I have a good deal? After incentives & loyalty I am getting a 13% discount.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    nevets8 said:

    so in the above set of numbers, what is my Adjusted Cap Cost? Is that the MSRP plus other charges?

    adjusted cap cost = negotiated selling price + taxes, fees you aren't paying up front - any up front monies

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    nevets8 said:

    and do you think I have a good deal? After incentives & loyalty I am getting a 13% discount.

    13% off sticker is good, but when we have all the numbers, we can give you a clear picture.

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  • skimmilk1skimmilk1 Member Posts: 17
    Hello,

    Could I get the MF and Residual on an Audi A4 Ultra 2.0t Premium Plus in Socal?
    Thank you very much.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    skimmilk1 said:

    Hello,

    Could I get the MF and Residual on an Audi A4 Ultra 2.0t Premium Plus in Socal?
    Thank you very much.

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • pgriz14pgriz14 Member Posts: 25
    Hi! Could you let me know the MF and residual for a 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus Quattro loaner lease with 10k miles. Looking at 24/10 and 36/10. Also, what percentage off MSRP should I be looking for? I am in Ohio, zip 43230.

    Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    pgriz14 said:

    Hi! Could you let me know the MF and residual for a 2017 Audi A4 Premium Plus Quattro loaner lease with 10k miles. Looking at 24/10 and 36/10. Also, what percentage off MSRP should I be looking for? I am in Ohio, zip 43230.

    Thank you!

    .00022 and 61% / 54%. Not sure how AFS adjusts the residual for the demo miles.

    Complimentary first payment
    $1000 marketing allowance
    $750 loyalty

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  • pohan28pohan28 Member Posts: 7
    Hi!
    I am looking to lease 2017 A4 P+, 36/10k and 36/12k in CA. what is the MF,RV and additonal offer for Dec?

    thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    pohan28 said:

    Hi!
    I am looking to lease 2017 A4 P+, 36/10k and 36/12k in CA. what is the MF,RV and additonal offer for Dec?

    thanks

    Quattro or FWD?

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  • pohan28pohan28 Member Posts: 7
    kyfdx said:

    pohan28 said:

    Hi!
    I am looking to lease 2017 A4 P+, 36/10k and 36/12k in CA. what is the MF,RV and additonal offer for Dec?

    thanks

    Quattro or FWD?
    Can i have both thanks!
    2017 A4 P+, 36/10k and 36/12k, Quattro and FWD in CA
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    pohan28 said:

    kyfdx said:

    pohan28 said:

    Hi!
    I am looking to lease 2017 A4 P+, 36/10k and 36/12k in CA. what is the MF,RV and additonal offer for Dec?

    thanks

    Quattro or FWD?
    Can i have both thanks!
    2017 A4 P+, 36/10k and 36/12k, Quattro and FWD in CA
    Ultra: .00017 MF and 52%/51% residual
    Quattro: .00022 MF and 54%/53% rsidual

    $1000 marketing allowance
    complimentary 1st payment

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  • types04types04 Member Posts: 12
    Hello, looking for money factor/residual and incentives for 2017 Audi A4 Quattro, premium plus. 36/15k. I live in ct. 

    thanks so much


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    types04 said:

    Hello, looking for money factor/residual and incentives for 2017 Audi A4 Quattro, premium plus. 36/15k. I live in ct. 

    thanks so much


    .00022 and 51%
    Complimentary first payment
    $1000 marketing allowance
    $750 loyalty

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  • smileyfacesunsmileyfacesun Member Posts: 35
    Hi, what is current MF and RV for a 2017 A4 Quattro, P+, Manual, for 24/10 and 36/10 in NJ.

    Please note it is a manual. Any incentives for 2017 now?

    Thanks a lot!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266

    Hi, what is current MF and RV for a 2017 A4 Quattro, P+, Manual, for 24/10 and 36/10 in NJ.

    Please note it is a manual. Any incentives for 2017 now?

    Thanks a lot!

    .00022 and 60% / 53%
    Transmission type does not affect the numbers
    $1000 marketing allowance
    $1000 loyalty

    Any car that's been on the lot between 9 and 12 months is eligible for a one time $5000 final payout to the dealer

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  • smileyfacesunsmileyfacesun Member Posts: 35
    Michaell said:

    Hi, what is current MF and RV for a 2017 A4 Quattro, P+, Manual, for 24/10 and 36/10 in NJ.

    Please note it is a manual. Any incentives for 2017 now?

    Thanks a lot!

    .00022 and 60% / 53%
    Transmission type does not affect the numbers
    $1000 marketing allowance
    $1000 loyalty

    Any car that's been on the lot between 9 and 12 months is eligible for a one time $5000 final payout to the dealer
    $5000 can be applied as discounts on sales price in lease calculation?

    MSRP is $51950, the internet price listed is 46195. What sale price I should ask for?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266

    Michaell said:

    Hi, what is current MF and RV for a 2017 A4 Quattro, P+, Manual, for 24/10 and 36/10 in NJ.

    Please note it is a manual. Any incentives for 2017 now?

    Thanks a lot!

    .00022 and 60% / 53%
    Transmission type does not affect the numbers
    $1000 marketing allowance
    $1000 loyalty

    Any car that's been on the lot between 9 and 12 months is eligible for a one time $5000 final payout to the dealer
    $5000 can be applied as discounts on sales price in lease calculation?

    MSRP is $51950, the internet price listed is 46195. What sale price I should ask for?
    That's how I interpret the program.

    We always suggest you target 6% off MSRP, before applying any incentives.

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  • chicagohonda72chicagohonda72 Member Posts: 4
    Hello - I am in need of a new car and just test drove an Audi A4 Quattro Premium Plus. Loved it!

    I am going the lease route for the first time and not real savvy here :-)

    Hoping the following information would help if anyone may have input if this is a good deal or if I should run for the hills (I initially focused on the monthly payment):

    MSRP: $49290
    Selling Price: $44027
    Fees / Taxes: $2150
    Adjusted Cap Cost: $46897
    Paid by customer: $781

    After reading posts in this forum, I have asked what the residual and money factors are.

    Thanks! - Chicagohonda72
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    edited February 2018

    Hello - I am in need of a new car and just test drove an Audi A4 Quattro Premium Plus. Loved it!

    I am going the lease route for the first time and not real savvy here :-)

    Hoping the following information would help if anyone may have input if this is a good deal or if I should run for the hills (I initially focused on the monthly payment):

    MSRP: $49290
    Selling Price: $44027
    Fees / Taxes: $2150
    Adjusted Cap Cost: $46897
    Paid by customer: $781

    After reading posts in this forum, I have asked what the residual and money factors are.

    Thanks! - Chicagohonda72

    2017 model?
    What term/mileage?
    What payment did they quote?
    Are you in the city of Chicago, or outside the city limits?

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  • chicagohonda72chicagohonda72 Member Posts: 4
    Hello KYFDX - Really appreciate the quick feedback since a newbie at leases! I will see if I can answer your questions as I got a little more information.

    1.This is for a 2018 Audi A4 Quattro Premium Plus
    2. The lease is 36 mo. Quoted $619/month for 10k and $639/month for 12k. I think I need the 12k and hope to get the monthly payment down some - however, if this is a good deal, maybe unreasonable.
    3. Chicago Suburbs. My tax is 7%. How is the capitalized tax calculated? They said $1840.

    Also - Residual is based on MSRP. 10k is $27,110; 12k is $26,124
    Money is .00093

    Thanks in advance!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659

    Hello KYFDX - Really appreciate the quick feedback since a newbie at leases! I will see if I can answer your questions as I got a little more information.

    1.This is for a 2018 Audi A4 Quattro Premium Plus
    2. The lease is 36 mo. Quoted $619/month for 10k and $639/month for 12k. I think I need the 12k and hope to get the monthly payment down some - however, if this is a good deal, maybe unreasonable.
    3. Chicago Suburbs. My tax is 7%. How is the capitalized tax calculated? They said $1840.

    Also - Residual is based on MSRP. 10k is $27,110; 12k is $26,124
    Money is .00093

    Thanks in advance!

    That's all good information..

    Now, please copy/paste it over in the 2018 model discussion:
    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/45440/audi/a4/2018-audi-a4-lease-deals-and-prices#latest

    We'll take it up, over there.

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  • natebeaslenatebeasle Member Posts: 38
    Looking for rv/mf and any incentives on the following and if you know what Audi's mileage penalty is on loaners as I've never leased with them before

    A4 P+ Quattro - 24 & 36 mo - 10k
    A4 Prestige - 24 & 36 mo - 10k
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659

    Looking for rv/mf and any incentives on the following and if you know what Audi's mileage penalty is on loaners as I've never leased with them before

    A4 P+ Quattro - 24 & 36 mo - 10k
    A4 Prestige - 24 & 36 mo - 10k

    Premium Plus:
    .0002 MF and 60%/53% residual for 24/36 mo.
    Subtract 5% from residual for Prestige trim.

    $1000 marketing allowance
    $1000 Aged Inventory Allowance (must have option code AG1)
    $5000 Aged Demonstrator Support (must have option code D02)

    The first two incentives can be combined, but they are dealer incentives. They should be reflected in a lower selling price, but they aren't consumer incentives.

    The last incentive is also a dealer incentive, but can't be combined with any other incentive.

    Sorry, but we have no info on the residual reduction for mileage.

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  • aekchianaekchian Member Posts: 66
    Hello,

    What would be the MF and the residual for an A4 2.0 Premium Quattro for 36/15k?

    Which incentives would apply for a lease or purchase?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    aekchian said:

    Hello,

    What would be the MF and the residual for an A4 2.0 Premium Quattro for 36/15k?

    Which incentives would apply for a lease or purchase?

    Some Audi incentives are regional. Which state?

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  • aekchianaekchian Member Posts: 66
    California.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    aekchian said:

    Hello,

    What would be the MF and the residual for an A4 2.0 Premium Quattro for 36/15k?

    Which incentives would apply for a lease or purchase?

    aekchian said:

    California.

    .00063 MF and 52% residual
    $1000 marketing allowance
    $1000 loyalty/conquest

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  • alex3737alex3737 Member Posts: 6
    I would like to know the MF, residual and incentives for a 2017 Audi A4 2.0T Premium AWD with a manual transmission in area code 13215 (Syracuse, NY); Lease terms of 24, 36 and 39 months with 12k and 15k miles. Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    alex3737 said:

    I would like to know the MF, residual and incentives for a 2017 Audi A4 2.0T Premium AWD with a manual transmission in area code 13215 (Syracuse, NY); Lease terms of 24, 36 and 39 months with 12k and 15k miles. Thank you!

    15K/yr
    .00022 MF and 57%/50% residual for 24/36 mo.
    .00042 MF and 48% residual for 39 mo
    Add 2% for 12K/yr

    $1000 marketing allowance
    $1000 loyalty/conquest

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  • hapyroshapyros Member Posts: 1
    What is the MF and RV for a 2017 quattro P+ A4 in Knoxville, TN (37922) area, please? 24/12 and 36/12. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    hapyros said:

    What is the MF and RV for a 2017 quattro P+ A4 in Knoxville, TN (37922) area, please? 24/12 and 36/12. Thank you.

    .00022 MF and 59%/52% residual
    $1000 marketing allowance
    $1000 loyalty/conquest

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  • kamcadkamcad Member Posts: 5
    Hello, what are the MF and RV on an A4 Prem Plus 36/12 in Ohio? Thanks
  • kamcadkamcad Member Posts: 5
    Sorry 2018 a4 Quattro
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,266
    kamcad said:

    Hello, what are the MF and RV on an A4 Prem Plus 36/12 in Ohio? Thanks

    kamcad said:

    Sorry 2018 a4 Quattro

    .00059 and 53%
    $1500 bonus cash
    $1000 conquest or loyalty

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  • askibum02askibum02 Member Posts: 18
    Sorry to bring this up from the dead. Can I have the MF, residual and incentives on a '17 A4 Premium Season of Audi Quattro, 36 months/15K miles
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,659
    askibum02 said:

    Sorry to bring this up from the dead. Can I have the MF, residual and incentives on a '17 A4 Premium Season of Audi Quattro, 36 months/15K miles

    There are no lease programs for 2017 models

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