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Checking inventory seems like most dealerships only has 3-5 M35x. According to salesman the M35x with Journey and Tech is the most popular model here.
Would appreciate to hear if anyone has had better luck in the DC area.
I am going to try some other dealerships in the area.
I assume you can take your car to any dealership for warranty issues ?
I got the M35x with premium with XM option, which includes the journey, technology - pretty much everything they have. So far, I LOVE it! The intelli cruise is sweet and bluetooth is my favorite feature.
I'm located in Lansing, MI but drove to the nearest dealer to me, which is at Grand Rapids, MI. Their service was EXCELLENT. I will do business with them again, anytime. Buying experience was great.
Here is the breakdown of the deal...It doesn't sound as sweet as some of the deals I've seen other people on this forum talk about, but can someone comment...if this is an okay, good or bad deal?
Color: Black outside, Bourburn interior (which by the way is a sweet combo - i think). It had 1,200 miles on it already - they said someone ordered it before but didn't want it anymore.
Sticker price: $54,700
TMV from Edmunds: $53,873 (they actually showed this to me)
Invoice (according to them): $49,600
Final price (after negotiation): 51,633
Lease:
Term: 39 months
Miles: 15,000 per year
Residual: 59%
Lease factor: 0.00195
Upfront payment: $2,000
Final monthly price (which includes taxes): $720.32
How did I come out? It looks like it came out about $2,000 over invoice...I see a lot of folks here got as good as $1,000 over invoice. They claim they have always been able to do as much as $3,000 over invoice...and that they were giving me a big break...they also said that was the only premium in the area with the color combo that I liked.
It was here I learned about the VPP program. It was such a painless stress-free way to buy a car.
Here's the deal I got this weekend. I posted all the lease info and some advice on the "Infiniti M35/M45: Leasing Questions" forum.
THE DEAL:
36 Month lease on M35 with Journey, NAV, mid flaps, truck mat, sirius.
$46,790 MSRP
$42,741 Invoice
$43,153 My Price
VPP made my life so easy and made the decision to buy the M35X with Journey, Tech a no brainer.
Purchased the car at Infiniti of Chantilly in Northern Virginia, they were great, no pressure and everyone from the receptionist on up is dedicated to taking care of their customers. The 500 club that they offer is nice too...all service is free for 2 years 30K,
free oil changes for life, loaner car, free hand done car washes.
Deal I got was: $ 51,200 list
VPP price: $ 47,125.00
Great car... :shades:
Thanks for your help, just looking to save a trip.
I have been torn between the rl and the m but like the m better. If you really test these cars, the m really stands out and the lease deals are much more competitive as Infiniti is using aggressive residuals and money factors.
Someone else asked about the trade-in. I didn't buy the car off the lot. They didn't have nor could they find what I wanted so I ordered the car around last Thanksgiving. They offered me the invoice price without a trade-in, thought I might try to sell it myself. But I never did really try so when it came time to close the deal, I did do the trade-in. The trade-in price wasn't great. Edmunds said the trade-in price was about 21,500 and they gave me 20,000. But when you consider that the sales tax is figured on the net price, 24,000 instead of 44,000, I saved about $1500 which is pretty much a push.
Anyone know how I can qualify for this program through the friends and family program?
Thanks!!
Nissan's fiscal year does end in March..
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I found a deal is $435 + tax w/ $2200 cap reduction + tax and lic. fees upfront on a base model m35 for a 24month lease. I havn't been able to get a hold of the person yet to discuss pricing for the exact model I want.. but that seems to be a reasonable deal.
New 06 M35x - AWD, Premium, 18 wheels. New York area. 24 month lease , 18k year for 645 month with 2600 due at signing includes 1st month, taxes and bank fee. PLates extra
Needing help with numbers on leasing an M35x with Journey, Tech, Aero, and Full Spare. MSRP is $52540. Through VPP I can get it for $48003. Lease terms I am looking at are 39 months and 10K miles per year. I am being quoted $669.50/mth with $1850 down. Payment and down include 1st month, taxes (7.525%), tags, and all other fees. Residual is 59%. What do you come up with these figures?
Thanks in advance for the help.
Dan
You should probably post this here:
Infiniti M35 / M45: Lease Questions
Car_man can give you an educated reply to your question!
regards,
kyfdx
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I posted in both areas. There seemed to be several posts here in regards to lease pricing. I'm looking to make a move in the next couple days, so hopefully Car_Man gets time to respond soon.
Thanks,
Dan
M45 Sport (Black/Black)
Journey
Tech w/Sirius
Fullsize Spare & Trunk Mat
Splash Guards
Wheelocks
MSRP: $56880
Final Price:$53,045
Residual: 68%
MF: .00115
Term: 24 months
Miles: 15,000
Payment: $786.42 (24 months) w/drive offs of $1,244.17.
I ended up putting down an additional $5,000 cap reduction for a final payment of $555.77.
This was a painless transaction and they gave me $2,000 more for my trade-in than any previous dealer (and only 500 less than high bluebook).
This is a hell of a car, especially since the Audi A6 4.2 S-line I was looking at was $1,032 for 36 months w/$2,500 down and the BMW 530 (too small and a little under-powered V6, and iDrive) was around $740 for 36 months w/$2,500 down.
This was Hoehn Infiniti in Carlsbad, CA.
Chris
Paid $1,000 over invoice at Riverside Infiniti in Riverside, CA. Purchase process was pleasant but a little slow. By passed local Palm Springs Infiniti as they had little selection on hand. Hope this is helpful and now back to some spirited driving.
Sam
M35 non-sport, journey, splash guard, tint 42830.
Also, clear bra for 799. Is it a good price??
MSRP $59270
Invoice $53899
Sale price: $55099 ($1,200 above invoice)
$0 drive off
$732+tax.
15,000 miles/year
24 Month lease.
I had the option to lease for 36 months @ $705+ tax but I passed since I would probably get a new car at lease end.
Based on the data I've seen on this post I went to the web and made inquiries with 4 other dealers within a 3 hour drive and immediately got an acceptance of 1k over inv. The local saleman has kept pushing on the deal and when I told him what I had in writting from an Atlanta dealer they changed their tune. I ended up signing doc's today for M45 sport, tech(xm)/Journey, painted splash guards, stone/aluminum interior for 500 over invoice. The dealer wanted the business and I made them "earn it" by beating the offer in Atlanta.
Use the data on this forum and go into the dealership well armed and prepared!!! :shades:
The best local deal (at West Houston Infiniti) I can get is 5% above invoice. In Dallas, I can get 2.5% (Sewell). The local dealer is giving me some BS about valuing 2 years of routine maintenance (oil changes) at $750 and arguing that the out of town dealers know they won't have to deliver that service on my sale.
Has anyone had a similar experience? I can't imagine buying a $50,000 car and having to pay for oil changes. I've owned a Honda, Lexus, BMW, and currently a Benz. Even the Honda had a better service package than this (free maintenance and loaner). I've heard Benz has dropped their service as well. I'd go back to Lexus if the drive was more energetic...
Any advice aside from being hard-nosed with the dealer? I hate the way these guys ruin the buying experience.
Go north on I-77 to exit 25 or 28 (one of those two). Just look to your left as you're approaching the exit. You can see them from the freeway. Their M inventory tends to be low, though.
Personally when it comes to product knowledge, I tend to depend on my own research and not anything a salesperson can say. Sites such as these with excellent forums really do help. For the most part the information obtained here is accurate and can really help you make a decision. Bottom line, do your own homework, then head to Lake Norman (or any other dealership that will make you the right deal). Good luck.
It may not work in your area if the local dealership is that stupid, then again you may find what you want within a couple hours drive and only be out some time.....
Good luck.
Thank you.
If you are in the St. Louis area, there are only two Infiniti dealerships within 150 miles: Plaza Motors and Bommarito Infiniti.
Both Plaza and Bommarito have multiple dealerships covering nearly a dozen automobile nameplates. I've bought and/or leased cars from both dealerships, 3 from Bommarito (1 Nissan Altima and 2 Maximas) and 1 from Plaza (an Audi A6 2.7T). Both dealerships can vary wildly from a very smooth and straightforward transaction to a hair-pulling stress-fest...it all comes down to the sales person you get and (more importantly) their Sales Manager.
For Infiniti M buyers in the St. Louis area, I recommend Plaza Motors. Here's how it went down for me.
Up until very recently I was still evaluating both the Acura RL and the M35x. While I was still trying to decide, I test drove the M35 at Bommarito since it was also close to the nearby Acura dealership, thereby allowing me to test drive one car right after the other. The Bommarito sales people were very courteous and friendly, and after my first test drive they even agreed to let me keep the M overnight for an "extended" 2nd test drive. Since they had been so helpful, once I had made up my mind on the M, I gave them the first shot at my business.
Here's the car I wanted:
2006 Infiniti M35x
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Twilight Blue Pearl (Exterior)
Graphite Leather (Interior)
Journey Package
Technology Package w/ XM
I called Bommarito Infiniti's New Car Sales Manager directly and told him the following: I knew exactly what configuration and colors I wanted with my new 2006 M35x, I knew the invoice price, and if he would agree to sell me the exact car I wanted at $500 over invoice, I wouldn't bother to call any other dealers and would come down and sign the paperwork that day, if desired. Without commenting on the price, he asked me what options and colors I wanted so he could check his inventory. I told him what I was looking for, even though I had already checked online and knew he didn't have it in stock (so I knew he'd have to do either a dealer trade or pull a matching car from the regional ground pool for his next shipment). He confirmed that he didn't have it in stock, and then waxed eloquent over the car for the next 10 minutes, trying to resell me on a car I already knew I wanted. That's usually bad news, since he kept avoiding the obvious (price). When I finally got him to stop selling me a car I already wanted and asked if he was OK with the $500 over invoice, he confirmed that "No, he wasn't OK with that". He then went on for another 5 minutes about how I would never get a car like the M for that close to invoice and how the best I could ever hope for was what he was willing to give me, which was $1500 over. After a few more minutes of him enjoying the sound of his own voice, I told him that I had never paid that much over invoice for a new car and I wasn't about to start now, I let him know that the deal was off, thanked him for his time, and hung up. Sheesh.
The next day I called the OTHER St. Louis Infiniti dealership, Plaza Motors, and got the name of their Infiniti New Car Sales Manager. Once he was on the phone I gave him the same pitch: I mentioned that I was a repeat buyer at Plaza since it's where I had leased my Audi A6 (which I was eager to turn in due to its many reliability issues). I told him I knew exactly what configuration and colors I wanted with my new 2006 M35x, I knew the invoice price, and if he would agree to sell me the exact car I wanted at $500 over invoice, I wouldn't bother calling another dealer and would come down and sign the paperwork that day, if desired. He asked me what options and colors I wanted so he could check his inventory, so I told him (even though I had already checked their inventory, as well, and knew he didn't have it in stock either). He checked his stock, came up empty, and then went online to check his scheduled deliveries for the next few weeks. Amazingly, he had the exact car I was looking for scheduled to arrive on March 27th, one week before my Audi lease was up. It had two extra minor options (painted splash guards and the spacesaver trunk mat), but those were both fine with me, and I even like the look of the splash guards, although they certainly weren't a requirement. When I confirmed the pricing portion of the deal with him, he said that although he "didn't usually sell that close to invoice", he appreciated that I had called him directly first and would certainly be willing to close the deal at $500 over as long as I was willing to also pay their $145 documentation fee.
Now, I'm no novice car buyer, and those of us who have been doing this awhile all know that the "doc fee" or "Processing Fee" is a completely bogus fee that dealerships simply have printed on their sales forms to make it appear unavoidable. Folks, I'm here to tell you now that it is just additional sales revenue padding by the dealership. They hate to do it, but I've gotten dealerships to remove that fee, since it is absolutely and completely bogus. However, I also know that they throw a fit when you force them to do so, especially when you are already really close to invoice, and I've had to pointedly walk out on a few deals in order to force them to cave later and waive that stupid doc fee. Also, the exact amount of the "doc fee" varies drastically from dealership to dealership (depending on how greedy they are), with some of them trying to gouge us buyers by padding up to $400 of pure profit for their bogus "administrative overhead" charge.
Ergo, since Plaza was "only" charging $145 for their bogus doc fee, and because he was upfront about it, AND because he also had the exact car I wanted due to arrive at the perfect time, I agreed to pay it. So the deal was $500 over invoice, plus $145 for their "doc fee".
So for my Blue/Graphite M35x:
Journey Package
Technology Pkg w/ XM
Splash guards
Space saver trunk mat
MSRP: $51,140
Invoice: $46,626.
My deal: $46,626 + $500 + $145
Total: = $47,271 for my cap cost.
The Plaza Infiniti Sales Manager even offered to fax me a copy of his invoice for the car for verification, which included the VIN and expected delivery date. I eagerly accepted his offer, and he immediately faxed me his actual invoice...which he had carefully annotated with a handwritten "+ $145" to make sure I didn't forget I would also be paying their doc fee. Heh.
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Since I had not gone through a sales person at Plaza yet, I knew that as the Sales Manager, he would simply assign one to me as he saw fit. I scheduled an appointment at the dealership for the next Saturday to meet with him and seal the deal with a handshake. When I arrived at the dealership that weekend and met him, he informed me that the car had just arrived the day before (a few days early!), and he then scored even more points in my book: He offered to let me take the owner's manual for my car home to study even before we closed the deal. A very nice gesture, especially since he didn't even require me to put down a security deposit! It's been a while since I dealt with someone who not only honored their word but also whose handshake truly meant the deal was done.
Since the car hadn't been through dealer prep yet, we agreed to wait until the 27th to close the deal. He did take the time, however, to run through the various Infiniti lease plans and help me pick the one I wanted (36 months, 12,000 miles, 0.57 residual, .00132 money factor, for a monthly payment of $667.22). He even printed out the lease plan with all of the details on it. This guy was a pro, and really treated me with respect.
He later told me that he was having a sales drive for his sales people that weekend, and that he was throwing in my deal as a free bonus "kicker" to whichever salesperson sold the most that weekend. So on Monday I got a call from the sales person who told me that he had been assigned to close my deal on the 27th. I then immediately congratulated him on winning the weekend sales contest. :P He was a bit surprised that I knew that, but admitted that I was indeed his "bonus" for selling the most that weekend. I confirmed with him the deal I made with his Sales Manager ($500 over, plus the $145 doc fee), and set up the final session for Monday night after work on the 27th.
I showed up tonight, and the car was ready and the paperwork only took an hour. Because we had agreed to the final price of $47,271, the Business Manager did try to sneak the $145 doc fee in again since (as I mentioned) it's already printed on their sales forms below the negotiated price for the car (which already included that $145), which meant I would have paid it twice. But I called him on it and they immediately pulled it out of the negotiated price and reprinted the forms. Can't blame them for trying.
Other than that, the process went beautifully.
So if you are in the St. Louis area and want to buy an Infiniti, do yourself a favor and AVOID Bommarito...their sales manager is a jerk. Call the Infiniti New Car Sales Manager at Plaza instead, and he'll get you a terrific deal. Good luck!
- Racer X
I won't go into too long a detail, but, suffice it to say that it took me about 6 months to make up my mind on the car. This was due mainly to the lack of choices that were available early on in my search as well as indecision on what I really wanted.
Ultimately, it came down to two cars, the M35Sport and the BMW 5 Series. Although the M35 beats the 5'er in just about every category, I was really having a hard time w/ the "prestige" thing...
BMW made my mind up for me. Not really sure what its like in other parts of the country, but, here in Atlanta, dealer of the 5 Series is abysmal and I didn't want to wait.
I called several of the Infiniti "internet" sales reps in Atlanta yesterday asking them to quote on a M35 Sport w/ the Journey and Nav packages. Just about everyone had a car fitting my wishes in stock and, interestingly enough, all were coming in at about 2.5% above invoice, which seemed reasonable.
So, in a span of less than 2 hours, I bought, yesterday, my Twilight Blue Metallic M35 Sport from Infiniti Gwinnett for $1076 over invoice (2.4%). I've got to say it was one of the most pleasurable experiences I've ever had buying a car. No haggling or email campaigns. Just the knowledge of what a decent deal is.
Maybe I could have gotten it cheaper, but, the painless experience was worth it.
LDJ
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Emgee
Sheehy Infiniti really did not want to budge on the price but they were unable to get what I thought I wanted, Umbria/Bourbon, in a timely fashion. I actually like the combination I bought better but I was able to use the lack of what I told them was exactly what I wanted to my advantage. I maybe could have gotten a few more dollars off because they seemed to really want to sell me what they had coming in or on the lot rather than have me order a car. They say that the orders were taking 4-6 weeks to fulfill on cars with the premium package because not many of them were being sold at this time. Judging from comments that I have seen in various forums it seems they may have been telling the truth.
Overall I would rank the purchasing experience as B+. This is the first premium brand car I have ever bought so I'm not really sure if this is on par with premium cars but I do feel it is better than all the non-premium car buying experiences I have had and Lexus would not even negotiate.
Here was the deal out of the box:
M45 (non sport)Umbria Grey/Bourbon
Premium Pkg. with XM
Spoiler
Mud Guards
MSRP $58,700
Invoice $53,334
Final price $53,400
36 month lease
0 down
$712.38 includes doc, title, license fee and Indiana 6% sales tax.
Pre-tax payment $672.06
no security deposit
drive away price $712.38
That is the good news the bad news is that since the car was ordered they will only lock in the price not the leasing terms. I can get out of the deal and recover my deposit if the terms go way out of sight or the car is unacceptable upon delivery. I think it looks like a great deal, except for waiting two months and some uncertainty about the market. Any way I can't wait for summer.
Best Regards
Airgator
Thanks.
WHich dealer did you buy your car from?
sanjay