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Last night I attended my local Porsche dealer's presentation of the new 997's. The dealer invited the local PCA club as well as other potential buyers.
While I am impressed with the new models(Carerra and Carrera S) I am concerned that there is NO spare tire. There is only a pump and can of "flat fixer". The sales pitch is that a survey of owners in LA yielded only 4% that had used their spares. The tires are NOT run flats meaning that most likely you will have to be flatbeded in for replacement. If you happen to be in a deserted area with no cell phone serice this could be a major issue. Anyone else concerned?
While I am impressed with the new models(Carerra and Carrera S) I am concerned that there is NO spare tire. There is only a pump and can of "flat fixer". The sales pitch is that a survey of owners in LA yielded only 4% that had used their spares. The tires are NOT run flats meaning that most likely you will have to be flatbeded in for replacement. If you happen to be in a deserted area with no cell phone serice this could be a major issue. Anyone else concerned?
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The scenario you mention is very unlikely. Look at it in terms of risk management.
If indeed 4% of all 997 drivers will need a spare someday, how many of those will find the fix-it aerosol successful? Probably 95% will find that the hole in their tire is small enough to respond to the gummy stuff.
So that leave 5% of the original 4%. Of THAT number, how many will find themselves on a road with no cell phone service and no one passing by to help them? Probably 1% of that 5% of the 4% of all 997 drivers.
Given the likely sales of 997s, you'd have to be pretty unlucky to get stranded by this system. Surely there are more plausible risks that can be addressed. Yes you could hit a deer or have your car catch fire, etc. etc., but few people worry about this, and the possibility of having a grevious tire failure that can't be pumped up and this happening on an isolated road are even more remote than deer collisions and engine fires I think.
Your 997 has to be flatbedded for just about ANY problem that stops the car, so that's not unusual.
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Not having a spare won't keep me from buying a car, but until runflats get a lot better, I'll avoid any car that has them (which is getting harder to do).
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There should be a doughnut, at the minimum. Other premier sports cars have managed this accomplishment (Porsche 911 included) for many decades without adversely affecting handling or performance. As for the argument that sports cars come with risk, well, that may be the case if we were talking about a stripped Lotus Elise here. But we're not, we're talking about the 911 which is as chock full of features and luxury amenities as many a top-tier sports car today. This makes the omission more notable.
They should include a standard satallite phone
But, they could make a full-diameter doughnut.. It would be the same height as the stock tire, but still skinny.. That should fit easily, as the new 17" and 18" tires aren't any taller.. just fatter.
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It's kind of a non-issue for me. I haven't had a flat tire in ten years. (uh-oh, I shouldn't have said that...damn!)
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You carry in the storage area a large plastic garbage bag. You take the big tire and put it in then leave your wife where ever you are and put the tire in the passengers seat. When it comes to a Porsche, life has it's priorities.
It depends. My guess is that 2006 997s will carry a 5-10% discount, especially with the Boxster S coupe available as a cheaper alternative.
I went through the same conundrum over the last few mths and finally oredered a 997 optioned the way I want. The trbos at least here in CA are so expensive, and you just have trouble knowing how it has been broken in, taken care of etc.
I saw an add from Claridge, I think they're offering 10% off on all '04 "leftovers".
What color did you pick for your cab?
This may seem rediculous, but when you are paying 100K for a new car... I know when I bought my 01 corvette there were 4 miles on the odometer, and there was no test driving until you bought it.
I am talking to a friend in Oregon to see I can use his address to at least avoid the sales tax.