2017 Kia Sorento Lease Questions

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  • carmineg_nyccarmineg_nyc Member Posts: 26
    Thanks in advance.

    Can I please get numbers for:

    2017 Sorento EX
    2017 Sorento EX V6

    Both for 36/12k and 36/15k.

    Location: New York City

    Hoping to pull the trigger this weekend - looking to put $0 down.

    Thanks!
  • carmineg_nyccarmineg_nyc Member Posts: 26

    Thanks in advance.

    Can I please get numbers for:

    2017 Sorento EX
    2017 Sorento EX V6

    Both for 36/12k and 36/15k.

    Location: New York City

    Hoping to pull the trigger this weekend - looking to put $0 down.

    Thanks!

    Sorry meant to include FWD or AWD. (Looks like it is tough to find FWD in stock)..
  • eeoaktowneeoaktown Member Posts: 8
    kyfdx said:

    eeoaktown said:

    3.3 V6

    I've got some prelim numbers from two dealers.

    Shop 1
    24 month w/ 12,000 miles/ anually (only 12,000 miles for 24 month, 10,000 would require 36 month)
    $369/mo + tax w/ $2,000 total money out of pocket (DMV, Drive Off, Fee everything included)
    Residual $25,916

    36 month w/ 10,000 miles/anually
    $349 + tax w/ $2,000 total money out of poket
    Residual $24,297


    Shop 2
    Waiting on Residual Value...
    24 month lease, 12,000 miles a year, $1,999 due at signing, $308.00 per month plus sales tax and license fees.

    .00118 MF and 64% residual. $3800 lease cash (24/12)
    .00131 MF and 60% residual. $2500 lease cash (36/10)

    The difference between the two payments is about $45/mo, once you amortize the upfront money over the lease term.

    Thank you so much!

    Do you think these are good deals? I may push for less cash upfront. The rate and residual look good, right?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,756

    Thanks in advance.

    Can I please get numbers for:

    2017 Sorento EX
    2017 Sorento EX V6

    Both for 36/12k and 36/15k.

    Location: New York City

    Hoping to pull the trigger this weekend - looking to put $0 down.

    Thanks!

    Sorry meant to include FWD or AWD. (Looks like it is tough to find FWD in stock)..
    Not surprised you can't find FWD in NY.
    The lease program is better on AWD, anyway, so let's stick with that

    EX Turbo AWD
    .00128 MF and 60%/58% residual. $2500 lease cash
    EX V6 AWD
    .00131 MF and 59%/57% residual. $2500 lease cash

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  • carmineg_nyccarmineg_nyc Member Posts: 26
    kyfdx said:



    Not surprised you can't find FWD in NY.
    The lease program is better on AWD, anyway, so let's stick with that

    EX Turbo AWD
    .00128 MF and 60%/58% residual. $2500 lease cash
    EX V6 AWD
    .00131 MF and 59%/57% residual. $2500 lease cash

    Thanks! Those actually seem like pretty good numbers. I have a few feelers out to dealers now, we'll see what they come back with. Looking to put $0 down and roll taxes/fees into monthly payments. Hoping I can get that at or under $350/month - anyone have any luck with that?
  • cybercarcybercar Member Posts: 11
    Hello, 
    May I please get December's money factor and residual plus any applicable rebates for 2107 Sorento SX FWD with advance tech package as well as 2017 Sorento EX V6 FWD with premium package and advanced touring package.
    36mo/12k and 39mo/12k for both trims 

    Thanks!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,756
    cybercar said:

    Hello, 
    May I please get December's money factor and residual plus any applicable rebates for 2107 Sorento SX FWD with advance tech package as well as 2017 Sorento EX V6 FWD with premium package and advanced touring package.
    36mo/12k and 39mo/12k for both trims 

    Thanks!

    SX:
    .00088 MF and 56% residual. $2500 lease cash for either term.
    EX:
    .00130 MF and 58% residual. $2500 lease cash for either term.

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  • sam_ksam_k Member Posts: 240
    Michaell said:

    johnnyg13 said:

    H Guys, This will be my first time leasing. Any help would be appreciated.
    Any changes to the leasing information (MF, residual, lease cash) for the rest of December?
    2017 KIA Sorento SXL V6 AWD.
    Credit Score 740.
    Lease months 24, 36, 39 and 48. Not sure if their are any other options.
    10k, 12k and 15k miles. Not sure if their are any other options to the mileage.
    Chicagoland area Zip Codes: 60016

    24/15 - .00032 and 58%. $5000 lease cash.
    36/15 or 39/15 - .00049 and 53%. $2500 lease cash.
    48/15 - .00069 and 48%. $1500 lease cash

    Add 2% for 12K or 3% for 10K
    Hi,

    Are these numbers the same for the Sorento SXL V6 AWD in the Long Island, NY area zip code 11040?

    I'm also considering the Sorento SX V6 AWD so I'd like the money factor and residual for tier 1 credit for 24, 36, 39 month leases for 10k, 12k and 15k miles per year.

    Thanks in advance.

    Sam
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,756
    sam_k said:

    Michaell said:

    johnnyg13 said:

    H Guys, This will be my first time leasing. Any help would be appreciated.
    Any changes to the leasing information (MF, residual, lease cash) for the rest of December?
    2017 KIA Sorento SXL V6 AWD.
    Credit Score 740.
    Lease months 24, 36, 39 and 48. Not sure if their are any other options.
    10k, 12k and 15k miles. Not sure if their are any other options to the mileage.
    Chicagoland area Zip Codes: 60016

    24/15 - .00032 and 58%. $5000 lease cash.
    36/15 or 39/15 - .00049 and 53%. $2500 lease cash.
    48/15 - .00069 and 48%. $1500 lease cash

    Add 2% for 12K or 3% for 10K
    Hi,

    Are these numbers the same for the Sorento SXL V6 AWD in the Long Island, NY area zip code 11040?

    I'm also considering the Sorento SX V6 AWD so I'd like the money factor and residual for tier 1 credit for 24, 36, 39 month leases for 10k, 12k and 15k miles per year.

    Thanks in advance.

    Sam
    We only have the national numbers. No regional information available.

    SX V6 AWD: 12K/yr.
    .00122 MF and 62% residual. $5000 lease cash
    .00091 MF and 57% residual. $2500 lease cash
    .00091 MF and 57% residual. $2500 lease cash

    Subtract 2% for 15K/yr
    Add 1% for 10K/yr (but not for 24 months)

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  • sam_ksam_k Member Posts: 240
    kyfdx said:

    sam_k said:


    Hi,

    Are these numbers the same for the Sorento SXL V6 AWD in the Long Island, NY area zip code 11040?

    I'm also considering the Sorento SX V6 AWD so I'd like the money factor and residual for tier 1 credit for 24, 36, 39 month leases for 10k, 12k and 15k miles per year.

    Thanks in advance.

    Sam

    We only have the national numbers. No regional information available.

    SX V6 AWD: 12K/yr.
    .00122 MF and 62% residual. $5000 lease cash
    .00091 MF and 57% residual. $2500 lease cash
    .00091 MF and 57% residual. $2500 lease cash

    Subtract 2% for 15K/yr
    Add 1% for 10K/yr (but not for 24 months)
    Thanks. I forgot to ask for 48 months as well. Could I please have those numbers too?

    Just to make sure I understood you correctly. There's no change in the residual percentage or a 24 month lease whether it's 12k or 10k miles/per year. Is that correct?

    Also, I noticed that the SXL residual percentages are 4% lower than the SX which seems like a big difference to me. Does Kia do anything weird with their lease payment calculations and the cost of option packages like not residualizing them? I remember many years ago both Toyota and Audi did this with some of their leases where the residual percentage would apply to the base price without options and then you'd have to pay for 100% of the cost of the options in the lease payment. In other words, they treated the financing of the option packages in the lease as if they were dealer installed items.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,756
    sam_k said:

    kyfdx said:

    sam_k said:


    Hi,

    Are these numbers the same for the Sorento SXL V6 AWD in the Long Island, NY area zip code 11040?

    I'm also considering the Sorento SX V6 AWD so I'd like the money factor and residual for tier 1 credit for 24, 36, 39 month leases for 10k, 12k and 15k miles per year.

    Thanks in advance.

    Sam

    We only have the national numbers. No regional information available.

    SX V6 AWD: 12K/yr.
    .00122 MF and 62% residual. $5000 lease cash
    .00091 MF and 57% residual. $2500 lease cash
    .00091 MF and 57% residual. $2500 lease cash

    Subtract 2% for 15K/yr
    Add 1% for 10K/yr (but not for 24 months)
    Thanks. I forgot to ask for 48 months as well. Could I please have those numbers too?

    Just to make sure I understood you correctly. There's no change in the residual percentage or a 24 month lease whether it's 12k or 10k miles/per year. Is that correct?

    Also, I noticed that the SXL residual percentages are 4% lower than the SX which seems like a big difference to me. Does Kia do anything weird with their lease payment calculations and the cost of option packages like not residualizing them? I remember many years ago both Toyota and Audi did this with some of their leases where the residual percentage would apply to the base price without options and then you'd have to pay for 100% of the cost of the options in the lease payment. In other words, they treated the financing of the option packages in the lease as if they were dealer installed items.
    48/12: .00100 MF and 52% residual. $1500 lease cash
    24 month leases are not available with a 10K/yr allowance.

    SXL residuals are just 2% lower than the SX, across the board.
    The full MSRP is residualized.

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  • sorentoleasesorentolease Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2016
    Hey guys,

    First time on this forum. I was directed here by a friend. I am considering leasing for the first time.

    Zipcode: 07511
    Credit: 740+

    Vehicle: 2017 Kia Sorento LX AWD 2.4L 4 Cyl.
    MSRP: $29,580

    Id like the following
    -lease for 36 or 39 months (doesn't really matter to me)
    -12,000 miles/year.
    -$0 money down due at signing.

    I'd just like monthly payments. Can someone help me figure out what I should be paying for this car monthly? What incentives are out there, etc.

    Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115

    Hey guys,

    First time on this forum. I was directed here by a friend. I am considering leasing for the first time.

    Zipcode: 07511
    Credit: 740+

    Vehicle: 2017 Kia Sorento LX AWD 2.4L 4 Cyl.
    MSRP: $29,580

    Id like the following
    -lease for 36 or 39 months (doesn't really matter to me)
    -12,000 miles/year.
    -$0 money down due at signing.

    I'd just like monthly payments. Can someone help me figure out what I should be paying for this car monthly? What incentives are out there, etc.

    Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

    36/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash
    39/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash

    We would need to know the negotiated selling price in order to calculate a payment.

    Suggest you review the articles at the following link to get you up to speed on leasing.

    https://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/

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  • sorentoleasesorentolease Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    Hey guys,

    First time on this forum. I was directed here by a friend. I am considering leasing for the first time.

    Zipcode: 07511
    Credit: 740+

    Vehicle: 2017 Kia Sorento LX AWD 2.4L 4 Cyl.
    MSRP: $29,580

    Id like the following
    -lease for 36 or 39 months (doesn't really matter to me)
    -12,000 miles/year.
    -$0 money down due at signing.

    I'd just like monthly payments. Can someone help me figure out what I should be paying for this car monthly? What incentives are out there, etc.

    Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

    36/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash
    39/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash

    We would need to know the negotiated selling price in order to calculate a payment.

    Suggest you review the articles at the following link to get you up to speed on leasing.

    https://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/
    So that means my starting point with the dealer is $29580 - $2500 = $27080 for the purchase price? How much lower is realistic/should I try to get that down?

    What fees should I be okay paying (and how much should they be?) What fees are BS and I shouldn't be paying?

    If they have the same money factor and RV, would you recommend 36 or 39 months?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115

    Michaell said:

    Hey guys,

    First time on this forum. I was directed here by a friend. I am considering leasing for the first time.

    Zipcode: 07511
    Credit: 740+

    Vehicle: 2017 Kia Sorento LX AWD 2.4L 4 Cyl.
    MSRP: $29,580

    Id like the following
    -lease for 36 or 39 months (doesn't really matter to me)
    -12,000 miles/year.
    -$0 money down due at signing.

    I'd just like monthly payments. Can someone help me figure out what I should be paying for this car monthly? What incentives are out there, etc.

    Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

    36/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash
    39/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash

    We would need to know the negotiated selling price in order to calculate a payment.

    Suggest you review the articles at the following link to get you up to speed on leasing.

    https://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/
    So that means my starting point with the dealer is $29580 - $2500 = $27080 for the purchase price? How much lower is realistic/should I try to get that down?

    What fees should I be okay paying (and how much should they be?) What fees are BS and I shouldn't be paying?

    If they have the same money factor and RV, would you recommend 36 or 39 months?
    Negotiate your best price - just like if you were buying - then apply the lease cash. Use the "make / model / year" pulldowns at the top of the page to link to the price tools.

    If the numbers are identical, the 39 month term will result in a slightly lower payment.

    There is an acquisition fee. What state is this? Other fees are local.

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  • sorentoleasesorentolease Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    Michaell said:

    Hey guys,

    First time on this forum. I was directed here by a friend. I am considering leasing for the first time.

    Zipcode: 07511
    Credit: 740+

    Vehicle: 2017 Kia Sorento LX AWD 2.4L 4 Cyl.
    MSRP: $29,580

    Id like the following
    -lease for 36 or 39 months (doesn't really matter to me)
    -12,000 miles/year.
    -$0 money down due at signing.

    I'd just like monthly payments. Can someone help me figure out what I should be paying for this car monthly? What incentives are out there, etc.

    Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

    36/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash
    39/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash

    We would need to know the negotiated selling price in order to calculate a payment.

    Suggest you review the articles at the following link to get you up to speed on leasing.

    https://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/
    So that means my starting point with the dealer is $29580 - $2500 = $27080 for the purchase price? How much lower is realistic/should I try to get that down?

    What fees should I be okay paying (and how much should they be?) What fees are BS and I shouldn't be paying?

    If they have the same money factor and RV, would you recommend 36 or 39 months?
    Negotiate your best price - just like if you were buying - then apply the lease cash. Use the "make / model / year" pulldowns at the top of the page to link to the price tools.

    If the numbers are identical, the 39 month term will result in a slightly lower payment.

    There is an acquisition fee. What state is this? Other fees are local.
    New Jersey
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115

    Michaell said:

    Michaell said:

    Hey guys,

    First time on this forum. I was directed here by a friend. I am considering leasing for the first time.

    Zipcode: 07511
    Credit: 740+

    Vehicle: 2017 Kia Sorento LX AWD 2.4L 4 Cyl.
    MSRP: $29,580

    Id like the following
    -lease for 36 or 39 months (doesn't really matter to me)
    -12,000 miles/year.
    -$0 money down due at signing.

    I'd just like monthly payments. Can someone help me figure out what I should be paying for this car monthly? What incentives are out there, etc.

    Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

    36/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash
    39/12 - .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash

    We would need to know the negotiated selling price in order to calculate a payment.

    Suggest you review the articles at the following link to get you up to speed on leasing.

    https://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/
    So that means my starting point with the dealer is $29580 - $2500 = $27080 for the purchase price? How much lower is realistic/should I try to get that down?

    What fees should I be okay paying (and how much should they be?) What fees are BS and I shouldn't be paying?

    If they have the same money factor and RV, would you recommend 36 or 39 months?
    Negotiate your best price - just like if you were buying - then apply the lease cash. Use the "make / model / year" pulldowns at the top of the page to link to the price tools.

    If the numbers are identical, the 39 month term will result in a slightly lower payment.

    There is an acquisition fee. What state is this? Other fees are local.
    New Jersey
    There is likely to be a dealer fee of $300-500, plus DMV costs.

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  • carmineg_nyccarmineg_nyc Member Posts: 26
    How did I do:

    2017 Sorrento EX (Turbo) with Premium Package and Frost White Color (added cost for the color): $360/month for 39 months. $0 down - only paid first month before driving off. Taxes/fees/ etc all rolled into the monthly payment. 15,000 miles per year.

    Don't have paperwork in front of me but MSRP was approx $36,500, got the $2500 lease cash plus Grad and Loyalty rebates. MF was .00109 and Residual was 57% (because of 15k program).
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115

    How did I do:

    2017 Sorrento EX (Turbo) with Premium Package and Frost White Color (added cost for the color): $360/month for 39 months. $0 down - only paid first month before driving off. Taxes/fees/ etc all rolled into the monthly payment. 15,000 miles per year.

    Don't have paperwork in front of me but MSRP was approx $36,500, got the $2500 lease cash plus Grad and Loyalty rebates. MF was .00109 and Residual was 57% (because of 15k program).

    Looks solid.

    Congrats, and enjoy!

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  • _w_d_j__w_d_j_ Member Posts: 3
    How is this offer?

    2017 Kia Sorento LX 4-cyl AWD Convenience package + 3rd row package
    my credit is ~800. in New Jersey

    39 months. 12k miles/year. $1000 down. $279/month (all fees and taxes are rolled into monthly payment.)

    I didn't ask for breakdown. It seems good to me...
    Please advise...

    Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115
    _w_d_j_ said:

    How is this offer?

    2017 Kia Sorento LX 4-cyl AWD Convenience package + 3rd row package
    my credit is ~800. in New Jersey

    39 months. 12k miles/year. $1000 down. $279/month (all fees and taxes are rolled into monthly payment.)

    I didn't ask for breakdown. It seems good to me...
    Please advise...

    Thanks in advance!

    Can't really tell you without knowing the MSRP and selling price.

    Lease numbers are .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash.

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  • _w_d_j__w_d_j_ Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    _w_d_j_ said:

    How is this offer?

    2017 Kia Sorento LX 4-cyl AWD Convenience package + 3rd row package
    my credit is ~800. in New Jersey

    39 months. 12k miles/year. $1000 down. $279/month (all fees and taxes are rolled into monthly payment.)

    I didn't ask for breakdown. It seems good to me...
    Please advise...

    Thanks in advance!

    Can't really tell you without knowing the MSRP and selling price.

    Lease numbers are .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash.
    Sorry. MSRP 32,800. Didn't ask for the selling price.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115
    _w_d_j_ said:

    Michaell said:

    _w_d_j_ said:

    How is this offer?

    2017 Kia Sorento LX 4-cyl AWD Convenience package + 3rd row package
    my credit is ~800. in New Jersey

    39 months. 12k miles/year. $1000 down. $279/month (all fees and taxes are rolled into monthly payment.)

    I didn't ask for breakdown. It seems good to me...
    Please advise...

    Thanks in advance!

    Can't really tell you without knowing the MSRP and selling price.

    Lease numbers are .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash.
    Sorry. MSRP 32,800. Didn't ask for the selling price.
    You want to negotiate the selling price for a lease, just like you would if you're buying the car.

    Negotiating the payment gives the dealer too many opportunities to pad things.

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  • _w_d_j__w_d_j_ Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    _w_d_j_ said:

    Michaell said:

    _w_d_j_ said:

    How is this offer?

    2017 Kia Sorento LX 4-cyl AWD Convenience package + 3rd row package
    my credit is ~800. in New Jersey

    39 months. 12k miles/year. $1000 down. $279/month (all fees and taxes are rolled into monthly payment.)

    I didn't ask for breakdown. It seems good to me...
    Please advise...

    Thanks in advance!

    Can't really tell you without knowing the MSRP and selling price.

    Lease numbers are .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash.
    Sorry. MSRP 32,800. Didn't ask for the selling price.
    You want to negotiate the selling price for a lease, just like you would if you're buying the car.

    Negotiating the payment gives the dealer too many opportunities to pad things.
    Thanks for the advice.

    Can you give me residual and MF for these two options please?
    LX AWD 4-cyl, Convenience+Essential Premium+3rd row
    EX V6 AWD

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115
    _w_d_j_ said:

    Michaell said:

    _w_d_j_ said:

    Michaell said:

    _w_d_j_ said:

    How is this offer?

    2017 Kia Sorento LX 4-cyl AWD Convenience package + 3rd row package
    my credit is ~800. in New Jersey

    39 months. 12k miles/year. $1000 down. $279/month (all fees and taxes are rolled into monthly payment.)

    I didn't ask for breakdown. It seems good to me...
    Please advise...

    Thanks in advance!

    Can't really tell you without knowing the MSRP and selling price.

    Lease numbers are .00079 and 57%. $2500 lease cash.
    Sorry. MSRP 32,800. Didn't ask for the selling price.
    You want to negotiate the selling price for a lease, just like you would if you're buying the car.

    Negotiating the payment gives the dealer too many opportunities to pad things.
    Thanks for the advice.

    Can you give me residual and MF for these two options please?
    LX AWD 4-cyl, Convenience+Essential Premium+3rd row
    EX V6 AWD

    Thanks
    LX 2.4L AWD numbers are above - options and packages do not change them

    EX V6 AWD - .00131 and 59%. Same $2500 lease cash.

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  • socalcommutersocalcommuter Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2016
    Hello all!  Apologies in advance as I'm typing this from a phone. Is this a good deal on the 2017 Sorento EX with both packages.  Standard 36 Mon/12k lease.  I'm confused by the two cap deductions.  You guys rock and provide an awesome service! 

    %59 residual 

    $2,500 rebate 

    drive off is $3,000

    $32,990 - $333 include all taxes, licences, registration, and all the paper work fees.


    Acquisition Fee: $595

    Licensing Fee: $356

    County Tax: $424

    Cap reduction: $337

    1st Monthly Payment: $330

    Capital Equity Reduction: $999

     

    Total: $3,041

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,756

    Hello all!  Apologies in advance as I'm typing this from a phone. Is this a good deal on the 2017 Sorento EX with both packages.  Standard 36 Mon/12k lease.  I'm confused by the two cap deductions.  You guys rock and provide an awesome service! 

    %59 residual 

    $2,500 rebate 

    drive off is $3,000

    $32,990 - $333 include all taxes, licences, registration, and all the paper work fees.


    Acquisition Fee: $595

    Licensing Fee: $356

    County Tax: $424

    Cap reduction: $337

    1st Monthly Payment: $330

    Capital Equity Reduction: $999

     

    Total: $3,041

    The $337 is likely tax on the CAP reductions (rebate plus the $999)
    The $999 is your actual CAP cost reduction from the $3041 upfront

    What is the MSRP?

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  • socalcommutersocalcommuter Member Posts: 11
    The MSRP is $37695.  Typically when I ask for driveoff figures, they're under a grand.  How would this be different from a down payment? Thanks for all your help!
  • autoqueryautoquery Member Posts: 4
    edited December 2016
    Need help decoding this 39 month 10k miles/year EX v6 AWD premium+advanced touring packages, quote: $2000 down and $329/monthx39. MSRP slightly over $39700. Selling price around $36600.
    I have negotiated nothing yet. This was the opening quote. NJ tax included in price quoted. Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115
    autoquery said:

    Need help decoding this 39 month 10k miles/year EX v6 AWD premium+advanced touring packages, quote: $2000 down and $329/monthx39. MSRP slightly over $39700. Selling price around $36600.
    I have negotiated nothing yet. This was the opening quote. NJ tax included in price quoted. Thank you.

    The national numbers are .00131 and 60%, with $2500 lease cash. We don't have the specific tri-state numbers from Kia, this month.

    With your prices, I get $407/mo before tax.

    Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap cost is, as well as the MF and residual they are using to get their quoted payment.

    $80/mo is over $3000 difference

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  • autoqueryautoquery Member Posts: 4
    Residual 60%
    money factor .00113
    adjusted cap cost $32,300
    Revising the selling price included in my previous post to $33800.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115
    autoquery said:

    Residual 60%
    money factor .00113
    adjusted cap cost $32,300
    Revising the selling price included in my previous post to $33800.

    You are getting almost $6000 off sticker? That's an amazing discount.

    With your updated numbers, I now get a payment of $281/mo before tax.

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  • autoqueryautoquery Member Posts: 4
    These numbers are unchanged. How do I interpret the $281 you are getting and the $329 I am being quoted?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115
    autoquery said:

    These numbers are unchanged. How do I interpret the $281 you are getting and the $329 I am being quoted?

    The only variables in a lease calculation are the adjusted cap cost (selling price plus fees and taxes you are not paying out of pocket), and the MF.

    The math is the math.

    Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer.

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  • socalcommutersocalcommuter Member Posts: 11
    Ok new quote this time. It would be a 1.5 hr drive each way so I need to know soon if it's worth taking. I'm trying to get them to $350 including tax and am willing to walk away.

    2017 Sorento SX (Tech Package) - 39 months/10k miles
    MSRP - $41,845
    Discount - $4182
    Rebate savings - $3000
    Net Cap after savings/rebate - $35,458 (Lojack added for $795)

    Base Payment - $340 (39 payments of $371.16 including 9% tax)

    Driveoff Due on Delivery $1711.11 = Doc Prep Fee ($80) + License/Title ($379) + Tire/Battery/VTR ($8.75) + Acquisition ($595) + Tax on Collected Items ($277.20) + 1st payment ($371.16)

    What's the verdict?
  • socalcommutersocalcommuter Member Posts: 11
    Whoops I forgot to add. Rate of .00071 and residual 57% with residual amount of $23851.56. Thanks in advance!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,756

    Whoops I forgot to add. Rate of .00071 and residual 57% with residual amount of $23851.56. Thanks in advance!

    I get the same number. Why would you need lojack for $795? Drop that and save $20/mo.

    The price looks good.

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  • socalcommutersocalcommuter Member Posts: 11
    She made a big deal about the LoJack being pre-installed.  Is that something the dealer can remove?  Also, I'm pushing for $340 including tax.  I read online that including the acquisition fee in the driveoff reduces the monthly number but the discount right now is pretty solid right?

    Nobody in a 50 mile radius is coming close...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,756

    She made a big deal about the LoJack being pre-installed.  Is that something the dealer can remove?  Also, I'm pushing for $340 including tax.  I read online that including the acquisition fee in the driveoff reduces the monthly number but the discount right now is pretty solid right?

    Nobody in a 50 mile radius is coming close...

    I've heard that line about lojack about a dozen times. Tell them you won't pay for it, and see what happens.

    Moving the acquisition fee into the CAP cost is going to raise the monthly payment a corresponding amount.

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  • socalcommutersocalcommuter Member Posts: 11
    Ok thanks!  If I can get them to $340, I'll pull the trigger.  
  • autoqueryautoquery Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2017
    Got upgraded to an SX V6 AWD(began negotiations for an EX v6 awd with adv touring pack). w/o the advanced package(so no autonomous braking etc) but with merlot leather, wheel locks, remote start key fobs, carpets etc. getting to an MSRP of $41775. $334 x 39 months plus $2000 down payment. All taxes/fees/gap ins included. Adj cap cost $37200(rounding off - typing from memory). Residual~ $24200. NJ taxes. Your thoughts?

    Edit - wasn't given a MF by the dealership but an online calculator threw up .0005.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115
    autoquery said:

    Got upgraded to an SX V6 AWD(began negotiations for an EX v6 awd with adv touring pack). w/o the advanced package(so no autonomous braking etc) but with merlot leather, wheel locks, remote start key fobs, carpets etc. getting to an MSRP of $41775. $334 x 39 months plus $2000 down payment. All taxes/fees/gap ins included. Adj cap cost $37200(rounding off - typing from memory). Residual~ $24200. NJ taxes. Your thoughts?

    Edit - wasn't given a MF by the dealership but an online calculator threw up .0005.

    .00091 and 57%, assuming 12K allowance. $2500 lease cash.

    Using your prices, I get $399/mo. Taking the $2K off the adjusted cap cost takes the payment to $346/mo, so much closer to your quote.

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  • mkieffer76mkieffer76 Member Posts: 24
    Looking to lease a Sorento EX AWD with Touring Package
    MSRP $39,495
    I am in NYS and was quoted $439 with $439 down
    Would like to get the payment closer to if not under $400
    Anyone know MF and Residuals and also if this is a good deal to start
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115

    Looking to lease a Sorento EX AWD with Touring Package
    MSRP $39,495
    I am in NYS and was quoted $439 with $439 down
    Would like to get the payment closer to if not under $400
    Anyone know MF and Residuals and also if this is a good deal to start

    What lease term? How many miles per year?

    What's the adjusted cap cost, if you are rolling in the taxes and fees into the lease?

    $39/mo is about $1400 over a 36 month lease; that's what you'd have to reduce the cap cost by to hit your target payment.

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  • mkieffer76mkieffer76 Member Posts: 24
    39 months and 12,000 miles per year

    Not sure about adjusted cap cost but everything getting rolled into the lease just first payment down.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,756

    39 months and 12,000 miles per year

    Not sure about adjusted cap cost but everything getting rolled into the lease just first payment down.

    2.0 Turbo: .00128 MF and 59% residual
    3.3 V-6: .00131 MF and 59% residual

    $2500 lease cash

    Read back a few pages. Plenty of other member's examples of what they paid.

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  • johnthomjohnthom Member Posts: 68
    Do you have the money factor and residual/lease cash for the 2017 Kia Sorento sxl awd..?
  • johnthomjohnthom Member Posts: 68
    24 months 10 or 12K miles regarding my previous post 2017 sxl awd..thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,115
    johnthom said:

    Do you have the money factor and residual/lease cash for the 2017 Kia Sorento sxl awd..?

    johnthom said:

    24 months 10 or 12K miles regarding my previous post 2017 sxl awd..thanks

    No 10K allowance on 24 month leases; 24/12 numbers are .00056 and 59%. $6000 lease cash.

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  • dimka8dimka8 Member Posts: 23
    Hello, Michaell

    Do you have MF and RV for NJ 2017 Kia

    LX AWD 4-cyl, Convenience+Essential Premium+3rd row
    LX V6
    EX V6 AWD
    SXL

    36/15k
    24/15k

    Any lease cash?
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