Is it normal to negotiate on the MSRP of the vehicle? Rather I want to ask can we negotiate the MSRP value?
The MSRP is the sticker price; you can negotiate a selling price that is lower than that number. Read back through the last couple of pages of posts to see what others have been able to get.
Yes, you are correct, acq. fee is $595. On the worksheet, there is a Residual% of 59% and a Residual Adjusted % of 62% below that for a net Residual% of 62%. Can you help me understand that?
Yes, you are correct, acq. fee is $595. On the worksheet, there is a Residual% of 59% and a Residual Adjusted % of 62% below that for a net Residual% of 62%. Can you help me understand that?
The "standard" residual is for 15K; add 3% for 10K. That's the adjustment you see.
I used the calculator someone had posted a few pages back. The dealer is quoting me $515/mo on the lease. That's different than the calculator. Am I missing something?
I used the calculator someone had posted a few pages back. The dealer is quoting me $515/mo on the lease. That's different than the calculator. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for your help
Using your numbers, I get $495/mo before tax, so $515/mo seems about right.
Can't tell you why the calculator is giving you a different number - on-line calcs often make assumptions we know nothing about.
I used the calculator someone had posted a few pages back. The dealer is quoting me $515/mo on the lease. That's different than the calculator. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for your help
Using your numbers, I get $495/mo before tax, so $515/mo seems about right.
Can't tell you why the calculator is giving you a different number - on-line calcs often make assumptions we know nothing about.
Of course, it helps if I plug 39 months into the term, rather than 36. I now get the $464/mo plus tax that you show.
Confirm with the dealer what lease term they are using, and the adjusted cap cost they have.
2017 MDX FWD
$44,890 MSRP
$41,290 selling price
39mo lease/12k miles
I used the calculator someone had posted a few pages back. The dealer is quoting me $515/mo on the lease. That's different than the calculator. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for your help
Using your numbers, I get $495/mo before tax, so $515/mo seems about right.
Can't tell you why the calculator is giving you a different number - on-line calcs often make assumptions we know nothing about.
Of course, it helps if I plug 39 months into the term, rather than 36. I now get the $464/mo plus tax that you show.
Confirm with the dealer what lease term they are using, and the adjusted cap cost they have.
Thank you they are offering me 20,500 on a trade and payoff is $21,131. I've added the $631 difference to the "cost added to lease" line and I'm planning to put $2,000 down. Not sure how any of that plays into the calculations to get to their number
I used the calculator someone had posted a few pages back. The dealer is quoting me $515/mo on the lease. That's different than the calculator. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for your help
Using your numbers, I get $495/mo before tax, so $515/mo seems about right.
Can't tell you why the calculator is giving you a different number - on-line calcs often make assumptions we know nothing about.
Of course, it helps if I plug 39 months into the term, rather than 36. I now get the $464/mo plus tax that you show.
Confirm with the dealer what lease term they are using, and the adjusted cap cost they have.
Thank you they are offering me 20,500 on a trade and payoff is $21,131. I've added the $631 difference to the "cost added to lease" line and I'm planning to put $2,000 down. Not sure how any of that plays into the calculations to get to their number
That's why you need to clarify it with the dealer - if you can obtain a post a copy of their worksheet, we can review the numbers and maybe figure out why their payment is different.
Moderator, Here is the worksheet that was provided to me from the dealer. Obviously it seems like it's missing some important information. Please let me know what else I should ask. This is for a 2017 MDX Base FWD
Moderator, Here is the worksheet that was provided to me from the dealer. Obviously it seems like it's missing some important information. Please let me know what else I should ask. This is for a 2017 MDX Base FWD
.00136 MF and 59% residual for 39/12. Yeah.. missing a lot of info, regarding the lease. $449 for protection package. Is that floor mats? O/C $391: Any idea what that is? $631 negative equity?
Let's use the $2000 upfront to cover the negative equity, O/C and protection package, along with the first payment.
That leaves $41,885 for CAP cost (sale price + $595 acq.fee). That gives $488/mo.+tax. If your tax is around 6%, then that adds up.
Moderator, Here is the worksheet that was provided to me from the dealer. Obviously it seems like it's missing some important information. Please let me know what else I should ask. This is for a 2017 MDX Base FWD
.00136 MF and 59% residual for 39/12. Yeah.. missing a lot of info, regarding the lease. $449 for protection package. Is that floor mats? O/C $391: Any idea what that is? $631 negative equity?
Let's use the $2000 upfront to cover the negative equity, O/C and protection package, along with the first payment.
That leaves $41,885 for CAP cost (sale price + $595 acq.fee). That gives $488/mo.+tax. If your tax is around 6%, then that adds up.
The O/C is prepayment for oil changes that I'm told will be added back to my discount. The protection plan covers window tint, door edge guards and nitrogen in tires.
Got MDX with SH-AWD Tech and Entertainment packages with OTD of $49,595 (including acquisition fee of $595) with $575/month payment on $0 down payment.
Got MDX with SH-AWD Tech and Entertainment packages with OTD of $49,595 (including acquisition fee of $595) with $575/month payment on $0 down payment.
The dealer has offered to pay my last three payments on my trade @ $400/mo.
Good deal???
$44,890.00 MSRP
$41,500.00 Selling Price $1,245.00 NC Sales Tax $75.00 New License Fee $42,820.00 Total
39 Month Lease $2,000.00 Due at Lease Signing $480.30 Per Month for 38 Months thereafter 12,000 Miles per year $27,382.90 Option to purchase at lease end 000136 Money factor Includes North Carolina taxes and fees
The dealer has offered to pay my last three payments on my trade @ $400/mo.
Good deal???
$44,890.00 MSRP
$41,500.00 Selling Price $1,245.00 NC Sales Tax $75.00 New License Fee $42,820.00 Total
39 Month Lease $2,000.00 Due at Lease Signing $480.30 Per Month for 38 Months thereafter 12,000 Miles per year $27,382.90 Option to purchase at lease end 000136 Money factor Includes North Carolina taxes and fees
I've been aggressively seeking internet quotes this week on a 2017 MDX with SH-AWD and Tech at $51,300. I've asked for 36mo, 10K mi, and $0 drive off. The very best monthly payment I've received at these terms is $615 including CA tax. The dealer won't budge any lower. Is this a good deal? Think I can do better?
I've been aggressively seeking internet quotes this week on a 2017 MDX with SH-AWD and Tech at $51,300. I've asked for 36mo, 10K mi, and $0 drive off. The very best monthly payment I've received at these terms is $615 including CA tax. The dealer won't budge any lower. Is this a good deal? Think I can do better?
Need a selling price and/or CAP cost to calculate a lease payment.
Are dealer accessories such as Wheel Locks($110), Tinting($250), Skyline($965), Luxury Package($500) should be added to MSRP or Capitalized Cost?
Not sure what "Skyline" is, but no, most dealer accessories do not get added to the MSRP, so they aren't residualized. That means you are paying full price for the accessories, even though they only benefit you for the lease term.
Are dealer accessories such as Wheel Locks($110), Tinting($250), Skyline($965), Luxury Package($500) should be added to MSRP or Capitalized Cost?
Not sure what "Skyline" is, but no, most dealer accessories do not get added to the MSRP, so they aren't residualized. That means you are paying full price for the accessories, even though they only benefit you for the lease term.
Autocorrection I guess. I meant Skylink. Thanks for the response.
Can you please take a look at this deal. 2017 MDX with Tech, FWD, white Exterior with Expresso interior
MSRP-49,300 Adjust Cap Cost: 45280 (including protection plan worth $989) MF:0.00136, Residual 57% 39/15 term. State: Texas.
Dealer quoted $638/month. with $900 down which includes first payment.
Is $638/month is right number?
Thanks.
I get $540/mo with those numbers.
Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer - Texas assesses sales tax against the entire selling price and it looks like you are rolling that into the payment.
Can you please take a look at this deal. 2017 MDX with Tech, FWD, white Exterior with Expresso interior
MSRP-49,300 Adjust Cap Cost: 45280 (including protection plan worth $989) MF:0.00136, Residual 57% 39/15 term. State: Texas.
Dealer quoted $638/month. with $900 down which includes first payment.
Is $638/month is right number?
Thanks.
I get $540/mo with those numbers.
Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer - Texas assesses sales tax against the entire selling price and it looks like you are rolling that into the payment.
Ok, now I get $646/mo, much closer to your quote of $638.
If you're comfortable with the selling price, you are good to go.
Not a mod, but i got a quote from a dealer: MF is 0.00105 with same residuals for January. This is NY/NJ. And it is now a 36 month lease. He said they aren't doing 39 month leases. Take it FWIW.
MSRP $46,890 Sale price $42,905 Money Factor .00101 Residual Value .61% for 12k per year
Thoughts on this deal? Would appreciate feedback. Thanks all.
We don't have the January program to verify the lease variables, but given your numbers, the CAP cost has to be about $2500 higher than the selling price.
If tax, acq.fee, DMV/dealer fees all add up to $2500, then it looks good.
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I was looking for the MF/Res for a 17 MDX AWD w/ Tech package in PA 19008
10k/36m
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2017 MDX AWD Tech
MSRP:$51,300
Lease Price with all the incentives/rebates:$45,463
Cap Cost is $45,262.14
Downpayment: $2,000 Drive off
Monthly payment of $531 for 39 months lease term with 12k mi/year
Does this look good?
.00136 MF and 59% residual
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MSRP: $46,890
Sales Price: $42,000
Acq. Fee $495
Dealer Doc Fee $589
10k/39mos.
$0 down $456/mo. including 6% sales tax $483/mo.
Any help/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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$44,890 MSRP
$41,290 selling price
39mo lease/12k miles
I used the calculator someone had posted a few pages back. The dealer is quoting me $515/mo on the lease. That's different than the calculator. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for your help
Can't tell you why the calculator is giving you a different number - on-line calcs often make assumptions we know nothing about.
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they are offering me 20,500 on a trade and payoff is $21,131. I've added the $631 difference to the "cost added to lease" line and I'm planning to put $2,000 down.
Not sure how any of that plays into the calculations to get to their number
they are offering me 20,500 on a trade and payoff is $21,131. I've added the $631 difference to the "cost added to lease" line and I'm planning to put $2,000 down.
Not sure how any of that plays into the calculations to get to their number
That's why you need to clarify it with the dealer - if you can obtain a post a copy of their worksheet, we can review the numbers and maybe figure out why their payment is different.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2017 MDX AWD Tech
MSRP:$51,300
Lease Price with all the incentives/rebates:$45,463
Cap Cost is $45,262.14
Downpayment: $2,000 Drive off
Monthly payment of $531(including tax) for 39 months lease term with 12k mi/year
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Here is the worksheet that was provided to me from the dealer. Obviously it seems like it's missing some important information. Please let me know what else I should ask.
This is for a 2017 MDX Base FWD
Yeah.. missing a lot of info, regarding the lease.
$449 for protection package. Is that floor mats?
O/C $391: Any idea what that is?
$631 negative equity?
Let's use the $2000 upfront to cover the negative equity, O/C and protection package, along with the first payment.
That leaves $41,885 for CAP cost (sale price + $595 acq.fee).
That gives $488/mo.+tax. If your tax is around 6%, then that adds up.
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2017 MDX BASE AWD
MSRP: $46,890
Sales Price: $42,400 (including $589 Dealer Doc Fee)
Acq. Fee $595
Dealer Doc Fee $589 (included in Sales Price)
10k/39mos. Total Mileage Allowed 32,500
$532.32 at inception which included first month payment, $50 title, tags, misc.
$456/mo. including 6% sales tax $483/mo.
Exceptional dealer experience, would be happy to PM info to anyone interested.
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Can I please get the 2017 mdx awd tech money factor and residual for 3 yr 10K miles and 2 yr 10k miles.
Thanks
The dealer has offered to pay my last three payments on my trade @ $400/mo.
Good deal???
$44,890.00 MSRP
$41,500.00 Selling Price
$1,245.00 NC Sales Tax
$75.00 New License Fee
$42,820.00 Total
39 Month Lease
$2,000.00 Due at Lease Signing
$480.30 Per Month for 38 Months thereafter
12,000 Miles per year
$27,382.90 Option to purchase at lease end
000136 Money factor
Includes North Carolina taxes and fees
Your quote looks solid.
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Autocorrection I guess. I meant Skylink. Thanks for the response.
2017 MDX with Tech, FWD, white Exterior with Expresso interior
MSRP-49,300
Adjust Cap Cost: 45280 (including protection plan worth $989)
MF:0.00136, Residual 57%
39/15 term.
State: Texas.
Dealer quoted $638/month. with $900 down which includes first payment.
Is $638/month is right number?
Thanks.
Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer - Texas assesses sales tax against the entire selling price and it looks like you are rolling that into the payment.
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Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer - Texas assesses sales tax against the entire selling price and it looks like you are rolling that into the payment.
Ok, now I get $646/mo, much closer to your quote of $638.
If you're comfortable with the selling price, you are good to go.
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Numbers expire end of day tomorrow; new numbers should be available later this week.
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January numbers (and/or rebates) for MDX AWD w/TECH
NYC
10/12K for 36 or 39mo?
Any update on new numbers? Thanks.
thanks in advance for any help.
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36 months
12k per year
$542.74 Including NJ TAX
First payment only due at signing $542.74
MSRP $46,890
Sale price $42,905
Money Factor .00101
Residual Value .61% for 12k per year
Thoughts on this deal? Would appreciate feedback. Thanks all.
If tax, acq.fee, DMV/dealer fees all add up to $2500, then it looks good.
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