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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
$1250 bonus lease cash and $1500 dealer cash
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$1500 dealer cash + $1250 bonus lease cash
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They came back with $455 Tax in on a 36/12 with only 1st and tag at signing.
Using the 35,805 MSRP, the 48% Res, .00059 MF, and tax of 7% and the assumption of cap cost of $30,500... $455 seems extra high what am I or they missing?
Can i get the mf,rv and lease cash on a 2017 accord hybrid base, hybrid exl, and sport. 36/12 located in houston tx
2017 Accord Sport CVT Mod Steel Metallic
Both
36/12k
24/12k
$595 acquisition fee on all Honda leases
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.00059 MF on Sport
51%/49%/54% residual, respectively
$1500 dealer cash + $1250 lease cash on Sport
$1750 dealer cash + $1650/$2150 lease cash on base/EXL hybrid
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Ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Both
36/12k
24/12k
$1500 dealer cash and $1250 bonus lease cash
24/12 residuals - 60% (LX) or 61% (Sport SE)
36/12 residuals - 54% (LX) or 55% (Sport SE)
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I just got a new 2017 Accord Sports SE for 0 down 258$ per month.
How did I do?
the first deal we have been offered
MSRP 29,795
Discounts -4506
price after discount =25289
wheel locks splash guards +289
xylon protection +499
Price with extras=26077
Florida tax 1674
fee 1.50
doc fee 799
filing fee 99
Lemon law 2
agency fee 85
OOD 28743
36 months 12k
379 per month
500 down (first payment and I forget what)
Thanks!
2017 Accord Hybrid Base
MSRP $30,440
Gross Cap Cost $24852.27
Residual Value $14915.60
36 Months
15k Miles
$291.53 including tax. Sign and Drive
Houston TX
State and tax rate?
MSRP and selling price?
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$2750 total incentives
$799 doc fee? Ouch...
Xylon protection looks to be junk, as well.
And, Florida taxes the monthly payment, so ignore that number.
In fact, this looks like a purchase quote.
Have the dealer give you the adjusted cap cost, that is valid for a lease.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
EX - .00059 and 51%. $2750 total incentives
Hybrid - .00039 and 49%. $3400 total incentives
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NJ tax rate.
I wasn't sure about the selling price.. but its 258 per month with just monthly payment at sign tax and all is included in price.
NJ tax rate.
I wasn't sure about the selling price.. but its 258 per month with just monthly payment at sign tax and all is included in price.
If you put nothing up front and that includes tax, take it from a non SE leasee, that's a great deal.
Nice job - congrats and enjoy!
2017 Accord Sport CVT Mod Steel Metallic
Florida 33458
Honda EX L
Included in "agreed upon value " are the following add ones were wise care xzylon protection package for $499 and wheel locks + splash guards. $289
here is the paperwork
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So, the calculations are correct. But, they killed you on the "extras"
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Also, can I take their word for the numbers on the advertisement or will they try to increase the numbers?
Looking to lease sometime this or next week.
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I see a super discounted price BUT the lease number seem very high
MSRP- $35,805
Savings- $6,300
Vehicle Price- $29,505
Wheel Locks- $149 (scam price?)
Total Price- $29,654
Tax-$1,885
Tag/Reg- $549
Tire/Batt.- $8.50
Dealer Fee- $799
Total Cost- $32,895
Cash due at signing $455 - 35 mos left at $455
OR
$1000 at signing - $439
$1500 at signing - $424
What should be the real deal here, thanks for the advice.
Ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost, then we can run the numbers.
.00059 and 48%
$2750 of total incentives, so your true discount from sticker is $3550.
You may want to check the "Accord Prices Paid" thread to see if that is a good enough discount.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Honda Accord Hybrid base 2017 36/12K
MSRP: 30440
adjusted Cap: 23488.10
51% res / .00039 MF
Cap cost reduction - 2699
Tax - 1936.78
Document fee - 599
electronic filing fee - 129
Mud guard - 129
Due at signing: 5477.09 with monthly payment of 189.00
0 down - 359/month
1000 down - 349/month
2000 down - 339/month
Asked about the incentives and was told that everything was included. Attached the picture of the notes.
Numbers came out a lot higher than I had expected. How does it look?
Negotiated Selling price: $20,6xx
Effective sales tax: $454 (apparently the dealer figured out a way to charge 1.5% instead of 6.25%)
monthly lease payment: $235
Down payment: first month's payment of $235
No trades involved, just a straight lease deal. Let me know how I did. Thanks in advance.
There are times when dealers can offer tax rebates to lower the effective rate for a lease. Not often does it happen with a mainstream brand.
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But, no way would I put down $5K or more on a lease - skip the cap reduction, and roll the tax and doc fee into the payment. If the car is stolen or totaled early in the lease, that money would be lost.
Only out of pocket should be the first payment and registration / DMV costs.
If I use $28,723 as the cap cost (your cap cost plus the cap reduction, tax and doc fee), I get $384/mo.
FYI, there are $3400 of lease incentives on the base hybrid, this month. Negotiate your best price, then subtract out the incentives.
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The cap cost offered by the dealer today ($28723) includes tax, acquisition & doc fee, and cap cost reduction (but does not include the $3400 incentive), and this number is negotiable. After reducing the number, then I can apply the $3400 to find my net cap cost.
Let's say the one of the dealer I visit tomorrow offers me cap cost of 28000, and I managed to negotiate it down to $27000. After applying the incentive ($3400), the adjusted/net cap will be $23600. Since residual is $14915 ($30440 X .49), I will be paying $8685(23600-14915) over 36 months, which will be 241.25/month with 0 down, tax, and fees rolled over to payments.
How does that look?
So many people would be lost without this forum. Always appreciate all the values I get from the moderators (thumbs-up).
You then need to calculate the 'rent charge' (aka, interest) as well.
Use this link to help you build a lease calculator, where you can plug in the numbers.
https://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html
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An issue you will run into is that when you request quotes from a dealer, they will almost always already have baked in whatever incentives they are willing to pass on and any other incentives you may qualify for. They sometimes even use incentives you may not qualify for and then "explain" to you they have to change their numbers because you aren't able to receive that incentive.
The system that works for me is to settle on the exact vehicle and options I want. I request quotes from multiple dealers for an out the door payment incl tax and all fees with zero due at signing (don't use the term "down payment"). Some folks subscribe to negotiating the sale price first and that's ok. But if you know the vehicle's money factor and residual for the lease terms you are seeking, it will take a specific selling price to get to the payment you are shooting for. I leased my current Accord Sport using this system and the sale price ended up at almost $4k below invoice. If you do want to apply any money up front, the payment will be reduced by about $28 a month for each $1k paid at signing (but pay as little up front as possible).
Just remember to send the exact same email to as many dealers as possible and YOU stay in control of the numbers - don't let them control the process.
Good luck!
2017 Accord Sport CVT Mod Steel Metallic
$2750 in total lease incentives
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Looking at 2017 Accord LX sedan, CVT for a 36/12 in northern VA
From your posts I already know MF is .00059 and residual is 54%
And there's $1500 dealer cash and $1250 lease cash
1. Trying to figure out target price to negotiate now. Edmunds TMV for my area shows $20,548 (inc destination), much lower than invoice of $22,070 (inc destination)
Is the Edmunds TMV already factoring in the dealer cash or can I legitimately aim for the TMV price of $20,548- $2750 (combined dealer and lease cash)?
2. I am aiming for no down payment and paying nothing at signing.
Is it possible to have everything (taxes, fees, and even $595 acquisition fee) rolled up into the monthly payments?
And is there a disadvantage to doing this, i.e. would I be paying more to spread out the taxes and fees over the course of the lease vs. paying the taxes and fees upfront?
VA is a state that charges tax on the entire car price in a lease, if it makes a difference.
Thank you so much!