Hyundai Azera 2006

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  • plwilliamsplwilliams Member Posts: 96
    "You have got to take that front license plate off the Azera!"

    Wish I could, but the local police will pull you over without a front plate.
  • tibtuscanitibtuscani Member Posts: 46
    well where going to get 18's which means we have to buy new tires so we are going to ride out hte 17's first then when it comes to change tires, we will buy new rims.
    thanks they look nice
  • ratledgeratledge Member Posts: 233
    "Wish I could, but the local police will pull you over without a front plate"

    You can't be serious! There is a law that you have to have the darned thing even if your state doesn't have tags on the front? Dang - that's just plain stupid... South Carolina used to have them until about 10 years ago, but you can't find a vehicle with one installed any more.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    From his profile, it looks plwilliams lives in Utah. Virginia also requires front plates.
  • jnd17jnd17 Member Posts: 62
    So does Massachusetts!
  • sundevilssundevils Member Posts: 100
    So does California, but do you think that means I'm going to use a front plate? Heck no! I've never had a front plate on any car I have owned.

    You can't tint the front windows in California, either. Did that stop me? Heck no!
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    I too have the "steel gray," here in Maryland, though I have about 3800 miles on my baby so far!!
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    While not all vehicle code infractions are consistently enforced, be assured that if you're stopped for anything, illegally tinted windows and driving without the front plate will be dutifully noted on the citation and their fines duly added to that of the infraction that caught the attention of the arresting officer. Drive safely.
  • tibtuscanitibtuscani Member Posts: 46
    Hey plwilliams, your car is nice do you ever get people asking youa bout your car? and why are you selling it did you get a lemon? lol
    to the rest of you AZERA doesn't have the most original design does it still question the people and make the Azera a headturner if so give a situation where it did happen? and what color azera do you drive also
  • plwilliamsplwilliams Member Posts: 96
    Sorry if there was a misunderstanding, but I AM NOT SELLING MY AZERA :D:D

    I often have people ask about it. If I were to get rid of the "H" on the grille and trunk, I doubt that anyone would even know what it is. Which by the way I would love to do ;) .

    I love driving something that you don't see every mile or so. In fact, since picking ours up in April, I haven't seen another one on the road. Of course, I don't live in a big city, but I've been down to Las Vegas, LA, and up to Salt Lake, and still no other sightings.
  • ratledgeratledge Member Posts: 233
    Dang - that's got to be a bounce-point for radar, I guess. Nothing else makes sense, really...
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    You can change the subject line when you reply to someone. That particular subject line has been going on for a while and no one (whose post is still up :blush: ) is trying to sell his car.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    No, I think it has to do with being able to identify the vehicle whether you see it coming or going. I know you wouldn't need to identify a vehicle approaching you very often, but it could happen. To my knowledge, Virginia has always required front plates - way before plastic bumpers if that's what you're thinking.
  • plwilliamsplwilliams Member Posts: 96
    Sorry Pat, my BAD :blush::blush:
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Heh, no, not bad, just a suggestion for future reference. :)
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Instead of riding out the 17's that come with the car, get the 18's with a good summer tire or all season and run the 18's from spring to fall and then change to the factory wheels in the winter.

    I'm going to be putting some 20" rims and tires on and I'll be doing that very thing. I live in the DC area and winters are harsh. One advantage to having two sets is you won't be buying tires as often.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Azeradave, you're in MD, too, huh? Well...I've got one of the black ones you might run across. The steel gray was my 3rd option behind the white and the color that won out in a side by side comparison...black. At first I thought I wanted the black interior, but I didn't like how the lighter colored "wood" trim looked on the black (not to mention black shows all the lint and dirt on the floor too). So I opted for the tan interior. I've got just over 16K miles on mine and only issues I really have is the sunroof not seating flush when it's closed and the one side of the car sitting a bit higher than the other. Both issues will be looked at next week.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Most recent questioning of my Azera was at my buddy's stepfather's house. He saw us off and asked how I liked my Acura. I laughed and wanted to know what was so funny. Well, I was standing at the back with the trunk open so I closed it and pointed at the "H" and said, "It's a Hyundai!" He stood there scratching his head for a minute, raised his eyebrows and said,"Damn...they've come a long, long way...very nice!"

    Before that, a guy at a local aftermarket shop came out to look at my subwoofer set up in the trunk and asked me which Lexus it was. Again, stepping back and seeing the "H", he shook his head and said,"Wow...I didn't know they had this one in the works...very nice."

    Always get folks looking at it at stop lights, at the gas station, the parking lots of malls and grocery stores. There almost isn't a place I go where someone isn't taking a good hard look at it.

    I've actually lost count of how many times I've been asked what kind of car it is (and that's without exaggeration). The color I have is black with the tan interior.

    cardomain site Take a peek and let me know what you think.
  • tibtuscanitibtuscani Member Posts: 46
    so when are you going to throw in a indash double din dvd/ navigation system in there? I think it would look nice... I personally like black interior better then tan interior.
  • azeradaveazeradave Member Posts: 42
    Good luck with those issues. I don't seem to have those problems. I did have a problem with the dealer agreeing to adjust the WOT issue (a recognized problem based on a TSB). They wanted to charge me $45! I said B.S.

    I did ask them to program a 4 digit code for the "Limp Home" feature...they ignored my request!! This dealer wanted to charge me $42 for an oil change, until I presented a voucher. This charge for an oil change...I feel is very high!

    Let me know about your oil change and Limp home coding experiences.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    I would like to install an extra cigar lighter socket on the vertical upright panel in the small area directly area behind the front ash tray. This would be to accomodate my IPOD plug in FM transmitter/charger. As I have installed the wood dash kit, I think the interior would look better without having to leave the ash tray door open.
    I have asked dealer, but no one seems to know what, if anything, is behind that upright console panel He guessed that there might be some computer brain or other relay.
    The dealership did not have a microfiche or other method of seeing this section of the dash or console.
  • richwoodsrichwoods Member Posts: 53
    So does California, but do you think that means I'm going to use a front plate? Heck no! I've never had a front plate on any car I have owned.

    You can't tint the front windows in California, either. Did that stop me? Heck no!
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    I like your attitude. :)
  • drdonrsdrdonrs Member Posts: 164
    :) My Azzy Limited is 4 weeks old. When I told the sales manager that I wanted the Limp Home Option programmed it was the first they had heard of it. I showed them the owners manual and when they called the service department their take on the option was that it was programmed in at the factory and they exhibited a real lack of knowledge about some of the features. I went to the service dept and the shop foreman, who had just came back from "school" had been looking at the TSB's a copy of which I had. We took the car into the service dept. and together we programmed the code in that I had chosen. It's done with a hand held scanner plugged into the cars computer socket under the dashboard. Takes all of 10 minutes. I was told I am the first Azera owner who even mentioned this option. They have not sold too many Azzy's. I also had them program in the lock/unlock option. There was no question of a charge because I had made it clear at the onset that I wanted to be treated as a "premier" customer in light of the fact that I purchased 2 cars within 6 months, the Azera and my Sonata LX. In addition I have already sent them 2 customers. I am on excellent terms with the Sales Manager and now have a good relationship with the shop foreman at the service dept. I learned a long time ago that you get further with a sugary approach rather than with an "acidic" attitude. By the way in addition to a free 1st oil service coupon for my Azzy the sales manager told me when I need my next oil service on the Sonata, it's free. I pop into the showroom on occasion just to keep up the relationship. Doesn't hurt and so far I've had an excellent experience with this dealership, sales and service.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Hi allmet33, nice pics. Would you consider uploading them to your CarSpace page also?
  • jjteejjtee Member Posts: 5
    Trying to decide between a 2007 Azera LTD Ultimate or Honda 2007 Accord,EXLV6. Any comparisons or experiences? Any one do biz with Arrow Hyundai in West Allis WI and if so how do u find their service. Thanks
    JJTEE
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    You need to drive both on interstates and through twisty, hilly terrain. They're miles apart in handling precision and ride comfort.
  • wamba2000wamba2000 Member Posts: 146
    Maybe I am being extra picky, but I'm not all that pleased with the ride/handling/noise level of the stock Michelin 17" tires that are standard on the Limited. Has anyone replaced them without going to a larger sized wheel? If so, please share your experiences.

    I'm not sure that I am willing to pay out to replace them without having them worn out, but just wondered what others think about this topic?
  • vegasladyvegaslady Member Posts: 10
    I'm very confused about the two cars. I really like the 350 and I'm wondering about the gas mileage and dependability of either of them. Anybody had both and have an opinion?
    By the way, Hello to ray_h1. Seems you are from San Bernardino, I grew up there and left in 2001 when I retired from the County. Have the mountains grown back yet?
  • jjteejjtee Member Posts: 5
    Hi Ray:
    Thanks for the reply, which one is your winner. Let me know please.
    JJTEE
  • lovemykids97lovemykids97 Member Posts: 4
    We went to Arrow Hyundai with the intent of looking strongly at the Azera. I loved it, and my wife loved the Entourage more as it's more practical for our family needs right now. We have had some small warranty issues. While the service dept. hasn't always had the answer, they have taken care of things well in the end. My wife was provided a rental at no cost during all warranty work.
  • tibtuscanitibtuscani Member Posts: 46
    well what kind of price was arrow hyundai giving you, i'll tell you if they are ripping you off for the azera limited with the ultimate package
  • lovemykids97lovemykids97 Member Posts: 4
    This was 2-3 months ago. Ultimate package - fully loaded with floor mats and all options was $26,200 cash plus tax, title etc. after the $1,000 rebate. How does that rate in the Milwaukee area?
  • jim101jim101 Member Posts: 252
    The local KIA dealer been doing my oil changes.
    Reason, eliminates about 20 miles of extra driving to the local Azera dealer.
    Benefit, less crowded, more friendly, better price (lower), other customers ask about the Azera, like they've never seen one.
    Something to think about if your local Azera dealer is less than you expect. KIA cannot do warranty work but can do the oil changes.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Anybody can do the oil changes on your Azera. The only thing I would question is the lower price to make sure they are using the synthetic oil that's supposed to be used. I avoid all the problems of crowds, lines, price or service by changing my own oil at home. 20 minutes and I'm on my way!!!
  • 54gradsteds54gradsteds Member Posts: 102
    allmet33, I noticed your reference to synthetic oil. The car doesn't COME with synthetic oil, as I believe the tone of your message suggests. Can you, or someone monitoring this forum, give the pros-cons of synthetic vs ordinary oil? And, can one wait until time for the first oil change to go the synthetic route? Thanks..Phil (I just have 550 miles on my car so far)
  • jlindhjlindh Member Posts: 282
    Check messages #2062 and #2070, this forum.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    )) "By the way, Hello to ray_h1. Seems you are from San Bernardino, I grew up there and left in 2001 when I retired from the County. Have the mountains grown back yet?" ((

    Well, howdy, former "Berdoo" resident! :D I attended Pacific High from 1960-1963. I haven't been up in the San Bernardino mountains in over four years, so I don't know their current condition subsequent to the latest fires. I doubt there's been any substantial regrowth since this summer's heat's been brutal for this valley and surrounding mountains.

    As to Azera reliability, its engine is a brand new design - there's just not enough accumulated miles on those in service to know, yet. But, if Hyundai's past engines are a clue, I'd guess they have another winner. (I own a nearly four year old Sonata with the 2.7L V6. So far, not so much as a hickup.)
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    I recently drove from MD to FL and used cruise control most of the way. I didn't have any problems with speeding up or slowing down. Only time there's any change with the engine is if you're going up or down a hill.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Thanks Pat, actually...I'm getting ready to put the new wheels on within the next couple of weeks and maybe get the windows tinted as well. Then I plan on taking new pics of everything. I'll post those on the Car Space page.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    )) "...which one is your winner. Let me know please." ((

    Sorry, where your money is concerned, your opinion is the only one that counts. Drive 'em both. ;)
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    )) "Can you, or someone monitoring this forum, give the pros-cons of synthetic vs ordinary oil? And, can one wait until time for the first oil change to go the synthetic route?" ((

    Pros:
    Better resistance to developing varnish and sludge.

    Slightly better fuel economy.

    Potentially longer oil change intervals.

    Maybe reduced wear rates This one's debatable judging by increased wear metals in used oil analyses posted over at BobIsTheOilGuy of Mobil 1 vs. conventional oil in the same engine - in some instances (There may be other undefined factors at work.).

    Cons:
    Twice as expensive at retail - though that would be ameliorated by weekly sale pricing and/or rebates, and longer oil change intervals. (see below)

    Hyundai refuses to accept longer oil change intervals than its listed 6 mo./7,500 miles in normal service or 3 mo./3,000 miles in severe service regardless which type of motor oil is used. (which is one reason I don't see the point of routinely using a full-synthetic - the engine's mechanical innards are Hyundai's problem for the first 10 yrs./100,000 miles as long as the car owner can present evidence of time/mileage and service severity appropriate oil changes regardless of the type of oil used - unless Hyundai states in the Azera owner's manuals that the use of full synthetic motor oil is required)

    In answer to the second part of your question, full synthetic motor oils are physically and chemically compatible with conventional motor oils. (in other words, mixing what's left of one after draining it with a refill of the other won't result in an insoluble glop in the crankcase or an explosion...) You can make the switch at any time. Some (not myself) advocate waiting until a new engine is fully run-in before making a switch to synthetic motor oil.

    Over a decade ago, Consumer Reports investigated the debate over synthetic vs. conventional oils by paying for engine overhauls in a fleet of New York city taxi cabs. The just rebuilt engines were then randomly assigned conventional and synthetic oils and maintained on them. Half of each were then run at 3,000 mile oil change intervals, and the other halves of each were run at 6,000 mile oil change intervals. (Keep in mind that the conventional motor oils of a decade ago were not even close to the protection capability of current conventional motor oils.) In all cases, oil samples were drawn and chemically analyzed at 2,500 and 5,000 miles as well as after a drain and refill. At the end of the year or two (forget which) the engines were torn down and all clearances of each engine were measured and compared against those established at the previous rebuilds. The grossly summarized results showed the engines fed the conventional motor oils of the time, in grueling taxi service under severe seasonal service no less, showed no more extrapolated wear on average than engines run on synthetic oils out to about 5,000 miles. Given the much improved conventional oils currently produced, 5,000 miles would be a cakewalk with a good bit of room to spare. 7,500 miles would be pushing them, though. CR's final recommendation was to the effect if an owner changed oil every 5,000 miles, didn't reside in an extremely hot or cold climate, and/or didn't tow or drive in competitive events, synthetics don't bring anything to the table that justified their higher cost.
  • 54gradsteds54gradsteds Member Posts: 102
    Thanks for your timely inputs, jlindh and ray_h1. I suppose if I had RTFM I might have known without asking that the car came from the factory WITH synthetic 5W-20!

    And now, decisions, decisions.....Phil
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    It's funny that you mention being charged for the programming of certain functions on the car. I had gone to one dealer who said they would charge me $50 to program the lock/unlock feature on my 'Zera. However, speaking with a Hyundai Corp. Rep., he stated that all programming that customers want/need done (locks, limp home, etc...) is done free of charge.

    I bring this up to say that anyone coming across a dealer trying to stick you with a bill for something that SHOULD be done free of charge...contest it and contact Hyundai USA's customer service line.

    Also, you would be surprised at how much of a difference going to another dealership's service department can make (in some cases). I've got a Hyundai dealer in my back yard (5 mins away) that I avoid at all costs because of a bad reputation and when you show up, they treat you like you're an interruption rather than the reason they need to be there to begin with. So far, I've come across two dealerships in my area that treat you like you've bought a Benz and that is one aspect that makes a world of difference in the ownship of a vehicle.

    It's sad that some of those people figure Hyundai not to be a premier brand, so they don't have to offer premier service.
  • wa40wa40 Member Posts: 11
    I was at Arrow on Sunday and they had a Hyundai Limited with the Ultimate package for $25,760 to the best of my recolection. This included the rebates of $1500-$500. Was looking at the Avalon till I saw a friend of mine with his new Azera. He has two BMW's and traded one in on the recomendation of his brother who lives in Florida. Saw him today at the golf course and says he loves it. Will see what the new rebate is and if I decide to buy I can't make up my mind on the color. I sure like the Black and the Bright Silver. Am also unsure about the service at the dealership and hope someone makes a post if they have had service done there.
  • lovemykids97lovemykids97 Member Posts: 4
    From the warranty things we've had with our Entourage, we've been satisfied. Having owned higher end (reputation wise) vehicle brands in the past, (BMW, Cadi., Saab) it is apparent that the service represenatives are more used to lower end vehicles. Everyone has to get in to servicing the higher end vehicles sooner or later. Have you heard bad things about their service? I think boucher hyundai in waukesha would love to make a dent in the sales arrow makes.
  • 54gradsteds54gradsteds Member Posts: 102
    allmet33's message #3426 has prompted me to ask the following: Which dealer(s) in the Washington D.C. area are considered to have really good service departments, and, just as importantly, which ones, based on actual experience, should be treated as Typhoid Mary? For the really lousy ones, if any, please be as specific as you can. Thanks...Phil
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    According to my local dealer, the car comes with semi synyhetic oil from factory
    Having used synthetic oil for many years, mostly on boats with large diesel engines, I can attest that the synthetic oil proved a substantial improvement in the engines performance. I had used oil tested on a regular basis and the synyhetic cut wear on critical engine metals. Fuel consumption dninitely increased, which as a bonus also justified the additional expense.
    I would go for the full synthetic oil.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Funny you should ask. I live in the DC area and the ones that I've been to in the area that offer great service are Alexandria Hyundai, Fairfax Hyundai, Ken Dixon Hyundai & Laurel Hyundai. As far as ones that don't seem to get "customer service", Pohanka Hyundai & College Park Hyundai.

    Haven't heard anything about Manassass Hyundai, Leesburg Hyundai or Fitzgerald Lake Forest Auto Mall.

    Hope this helps!

    Personally, the crew at Alexandria is ver personable, professional and expeditious about getting your car back to you. They also try to accomodate your schedule as much as possible. Ken Dixon is also showing to be great in these areas as well. I've heard great things about Fairfax Hyundai, but never been up there. I've visited Pohanka on a few occassions to check them out. They seem to be all about getting your money and once they have it...you become an afterthought. I stayed away from them based on past reputation and tried to give em a chance and they didn't change my opinion of them at all.
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Maybe because of your location they might send them with the synthetic blend, but all the dealers up in the MD/DC area will tell you that the Azeras and Sonatas come from the factory with a full synthetic. Regardless if it was or wasn't...that's what's in my car now...Castrol Syntec 5W-20 and I haven't looked back!
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
    Anyone with the issue of their 'Zera "leaning" to one side ever get any feedback from a service dept.? I only ask because I dropped mine off last night for them to take a look at it. I measured a 1" drop on the driver's side at the rear wheel. The front seems to be fine, but it's a noticeable difference in back. On the passenger side, you can slide your hand between the top of the tire and the edge of the fender with no problem, on the driver's side...you have to angle your hand upwards and even then you end up scraping it on the fender edge.

    Also, anyone have an issue with the sunroof not seating properly when it's closed?

    Hopefully, I'll be hearing back from them before lunch to find out what they're going to be doing.
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