2017 BMW 4-Series Lease Deals and Prices

hardrock12

kyfdx said:

hardrock12 said:

I have 2 options here and need you guys' help please. TIA

2017 440i 36/10k, 0.00151/61%

Msrp: 59,340
Rebates : 3000 + 500 (corp fleet)
Doc fees: 250
Destination: 925
Tax rate 7%
I am targeting

Sorry... can't help with pricing.
We suggest 7% off, then subtract the rebates.
Good for you, if you can do better.

Thanks .. I just want to make sure I am not sounding ridiculous with my ask. is this a good time to get 2017s? or you recommend waiting?

Michaell

hardrock12 said:

kyfdx said:

hardrock12 said:

I have 2 options here and need you guys' help please. TIA

2017 440i 36/10k, 0.00151/61%

Msrp: 59,340
Rebates : 3000 + 500 (corp fleet)
Doc fees: 250
Destination: 925
Tax rate 7%
I am targeting

Sorry... can't help with pricing.
We suggest 7% off, then subtract the rebates.
Good for you, if you can do better.

Thanks .. I just want to make sure I am not sounding ridiculous with my ask. is this a good time to get 2017s? or you recommend waiting?

The longer you wait, the more you risk not getting the color / options / equipment you want. Inventory is shrinking every day.

hardrock12

whats 20k/24 and 24k/24 mf/rv values for 430i xdrive in ohio?

kyfdx

hardrock12 said:

whats 20k/24 and 24k/24 mf/rv values for 430i xdrive in ohio?

.00151 MF and 67%/66% residual

cococo

What's the MF and residual value for 10k/36 for 430i and 440i xdrive? Any incentives at this moment? Can I still put down 7 MSD to cut down MF by 0.00007 for each MSD? Thank you!

kyfdx

cococo said:

What's the MF and residual value for 10k/36 for 430i and 440i xdrive? Any incentives at this moment? Can I still put down 7 MSD to cut down MF by 0.00007 for each MSD? Thank you!

.00151 MF and 61% residual for either model.
BMW no longer has an MSD program.

bimmmer1

Hi can you provide MF and RV for 2017 BMW 430i xdrive Gran Coupe in Oregon for 36/10 for August? Also, what's the number for 2018 version?

Thanks!

kyfdx

bimmmer1 said:

Hi can you provide MF and RV for 2017 BMW 430i xdrive Gran Coupe in Oregon for 36/10 for August? Also, what's the number for 2018 version?

Thanks!

.00151 MF and 61% residual

ctk494949

Hello, can I get the MF and RV for a 2017 BMW 440i Coupe, in Miami, FL for 36/12 and 36/10...Thanks!!

kyfdx

ctk494949 said:

Hello, can I get the MF and RV for a 2017 BMW 440i Coupe, in Miami, FL for 36/12 and 36/10...Thanks!!

.00151 MF and 60%/61% residual

dk28862886

Hello, can I please have the MF and RV for 2017 430i and 440i convertibles? Going to negotiate a lease today and this would help. Thanks so much.

dk28862886

BTW, looking at 12K miles per year. 36 months lease. Thanks.

kyfdx

dk28862886 said:

Hello, can I please have the MF and RV for 2017 430i and 440i convertibles? Going to negotiate a lease today and this would help. Thanks so much.

.00151 MF and 60% residual for 36/12. Either model

types04

Hello,

could you let me know the mf/ residual for a 2017 440 awd, 3 year 15k mile a year lease. 

Thanks so much!
nick

Michaell

types04 said:

Hello,

could you let me know the mf/ residual for a 2017 440 awd, 3 year 15k mile a year lease. 

Thanks so much!
nick

.00151 and 58%

fierros2001

I'm currently working on this deal in Florida (6% tax)
let me know what you think

2017 430i coupe (Demo) with 4500 mi
MF 0.00151 / RESIDUAL 58.74% (I couldn't get the full 60% since they had to adjust it for the miles on it)

fierros2001

$44,245 MSRP

Michaell

fierros2001 said:

$44,245 MSRP

fierros2001 said:

I'm currently working on this deal in Florida (6% tax)
let me know what you think

2017 430i coupe (Demo) with 4500 mi
MF 0.00151 / RESIDUAL 58.74% (I couldn't get the full 60% since they had to adjust it for the miles on it)

I agree with the numbers on the worksheet.

Why put up $1995 of your own cash? That money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

fierros2001

agreed - just wanted your opinion on the deal

kyfdx

fierros2001 said:

agreed - just wanted your opinion on the deal

It's not a bad deal. If you amortize the upfront, it's $427/mo, with just first payment due at signing.

My offer would be:
$37070 selling price ($930 less than their offer)
$925 acq.fee
$699 doc fee (shewwwww)
$498.50 rolled fees ($180 cap red tax on rebate + $318.50 license fees)
- $3000 rebate

$36192.50 adjusted CAP

$283.42 depreciation
$93.89 rent charge
$22.64 tax
$399.95 payment
$399.95 due at signing.

I probably wouldn't let it get away for $427/mo, with $427 due at signing, but I'd shoot for better.

They really shouldn't roll the first payment into the CAP cost, then use your whole amount upfront as CAP cost reduction.... .that causes the first payment to be taxed twice. Also, I might pay the license fees upfront, as well, so those don't get taxed.

But, $399.95 with $399.95 due at signing is pretty.. lol

fierros2001

I already made them an offer of $37,000 and they did not accept it... they will not go below $38,000
they told me they would rather sell it at auction...lol

so... that being said... if I still wanted to drive off with only the first payment
(taxes on the rolled fees are only about $30 for the life of the lease, which is less than a buck a month and I don't have to front all the fees)

$38000 selling price
$925 acq. fee
$699 doc fee
$498.50 rolled fees ($180 cap red tax on rebate + $318.50 license fees)
- $3000 rebate

$37122.50 adjusted CAP

payment is $429 - right?

let me know - I don't want it to go away

kyfdx

fierros2001 said:

I already made them an offer of $37,000 and they did not accept it... they will not go below $38,000
they told me they would rather sell it at auction...lol

so... that being said... if I still wanted to drive off with only the first payment
(taxes on the rolled fees are only about $30 for the life of the lease, which is less than a buck a month and I don't have to front all the fees)

$38000 selling price
$925 acq. fee
$699 doc fee
$498.50 rolled fees ($180 cap red tax on rebate + $318.50 license fees)
- $3000 rebate

$37122.50 adjusted CAP

payment is $429 - right?

let me know - I don't want it to go away

Yup... $429/mo. with $429 due at signing.

fierros2001

got it down a bit more... and closed the deal...
monthly payment down to $418 / mo


Thank you guys!!!

kyfdx

fierros2001 said:

got it down a bit more... and closed the deal...
monthly payment down to $418 / mo


Thank you guys!!!

Congrats!

anh3

2017 440i, MRSP $61930, DEMO car with 4500 miles. Haven't asked for the details but quoted
$650/mo., tax (7.25%) and fees included.
36 mos, 15k, $1045 due at signing

Michaell

anh3 said:

2017 440i, MRSP $61930, DEMO car with 4500 miles. Haven't asked for the details but quoted
$650/mo., tax (7.25%) and fees included.
36 mos, 15k, $1045 due at signing

What is the selling price?

.00151 and 58%, less .25/mile for the demo miles.

anh3

2017 440i, MSRP $62580, didn't ask for selling price or MF, quoted $650 (7.25% tax and fees included). 36 mos, 15k, $0 down, $0 out of pocket. Current lease have 5 payments left, dealer take 2, BMW pays last 3; on the fence b/c I'm at 31k/45k miles allowance on my current lease... thoughts?!

Michaell

anh3 said:

2017 440i, MSRP $62580, didn't ask for selling price or MF, quoted $650 (7.25% tax and fees included). 36 mos, 15k, $0 down, $0 out of pocket. Current lease have 5 payments left, dealer take 2, BMW pays last 3; on the fence b/c I'm at 31k/45k miles allowance on my current lease... thoughts?!

Without the selling price / cap cost, we can't really comment.

kyfdx

anh3 said:

2017 440i, MSRP $62580, didn't ask for selling price or MF, quoted $650 (7.25% tax and fees included). 36 mos, 15k, $0 down, $0 out of pocket. Current lease have 5 payments left, dealer take 2, BMW pays last 3; on the fence b/c I'm at 31k/45k miles allowance on my current lease... thoughts?!

Looks like you are at 31K miles after 31 months?
If your usage is likely to stay the same, go with 12K/yr, next time. That will save you $35/mo.+tax on the payment.

rastm

2017 BMW 440xi Convertible lease.  

MSRP 73170
selling price 66970
M Sport
Drivers Assistance Package + Plus
Lighting Package
Dynamic Handling
Cold weather package
Zero down
6% tax
$855 
12k for 36 month

thoughts?

kyfdx

rastm said:

2017 BMW 440xi Convertible lease.  

MSRP 73170
selling price 66970
M Sport
Drivers Assistance Package + Plus
Lighting Package
Dynamic Handling
Cold weather package
Zero down
6% tax
$855 
12k for 36 month

thoughts?

.00151 MF and 60% residual
I get $808/mo.+tax, using the selling price as adjusted CAP cost.
How much is due at signing?

rastm

$855 includes tax, nothing due at signing but first payment.

rastm

kyfdx said:

rastm said:

2017 BMW 440xi Convertible lease.  

MSRP 73170
selling price 66970
M Sport
Drivers Assistance Package + Plus
Lighting Package
Dynamic Handling
Cold weather package
Zero down
6% tax
$855 
12k for 36 month

thoughts?

.00151 MF and 60% residual
I get $808/mo.+tax, using the selling price as adjusted CAP cost.
How much is due at signing?

$855 includes tax, nothing due at signing but first payment.

Michaell

rastm said:

kyfdx said:

rastm said:

2017 BMW 440xi Convertible lease.  

MSRP 73170
selling price 66970
M Sport
Drivers Assistance Package + Plus
Lighting Package
Dynamic Handling
Cold weather package
Zero down
6% tax
$855 
12k for 36 month

thoughts?

.00151 MF and 60% residual
I get $808/mo.+tax, using the selling price as adjusted CAP cost.
How much is due at signing?

$855 includes tax, nothing due at signing but first payment.

I'm within a couple dollars of that quote; looks good for only first payment out of pocket.

ufaruqui

Could you please provide the September residual and MF for a 2017 440xi GC, 36k, 36mo. This is an executive demo.

Thanks,

Michaell

ufaruqui said:

Could you please provide the September residual and MF for a 2017 440xi GC, 36k, 36mo. This is an executive demo.

Thanks,

.00152 and 60%

ufaruqui

Michaell said:

ufaruqui said:

Could you please provide the September residual and MF for a 2017 440xi GC, 36k, 36mo. This is an executive demo.

Thanks,

.00152 and 60%

Thank you! The dealer is saying the residual % goes down if the car has over 5,000 miles. The car has 8,500. Here's my calculation:

MSRP $61,395
Residual (12k) 0.6
Base Residual $36,837
Mileage 8,500
Mileage Deduction $2,125
Residual $34,712

Michaell

ufaruqui said:

Michaell said:

ufaruqui said:

Could you please provide the September residual and MF for a 2017 440xi GC, 36k, 36mo. This is an executive demo.

Thanks,

.00152 and 60%

Thank you! The dealer is saying the residual % goes down if the car has over 5,000 miles. The car has 8,500. Here's my calculation:

MSRP $61,395
Residual (12k) 0.6
Base Residual $36,837
Mileage 8,500
Mileage Deduction $2,125
Residual $34,712

Yes, demo cars are subject to both a residual % reduction and a per mile deduction on the standard residual.

With 8500 miles, first subtract 6% from the posted residual (54%), then the $2125 mileage deduction.

Confirm the above with your dealer, but it will result in a much higher lease payment than on a car with 0 miles. The idea is that you should obtain a much bigger discount from sticker than a new car, else why lease a demo?

ufaruqui

Michaell said:

ufaruqui said:

Michaell said:

ufaruqui said:

Could you please provide the September residual and MF for a 2017 440xi GC, 36k, 36mo. This is an executive demo.

Thanks,

.00152 and 60%

Thank you! The dealer is saying the residual % goes down if the car has over 5,000 miles. The car has 8,500. Here's my calculation:

MSRP $61,395
Residual (12k) 0.6
Base Residual $36,837
Mileage 8,500
Mileage Deduction $2,125
Residual $34,712

Yes, demo cars are subject to both a residual % reduction and a per mile deduction on the standard residual.

With 8500 miles, first subtract 6% from the posted residual (54%), then the $2125 mileage deduction.

Confirm the above with your dealer, but it will result in a much higher lease payment than on a car with 0 miles. The idea is that you should obtain a much bigger discount from sticker than a new car, else why lease a demo?

Thank you. What is the threshold for the additional 6% reduction? Should I target exec demo vehicles with <5000 Miles?

Michaell

ufaruqui said:

Michaell said:

ufaruqui said:

Michaell said:

ufaruqui said:

Could you please provide the September residual and MF for a 2017 440xi GC, 36k, 36mo. This is an executive demo.

Thanks,

.00152 and 60%

Thank you! The dealer is saying the residual % goes down if the car has over 5,000 miles. The car has 8,500. Here's my calculation:

MSRP $61,395
Residual (12k) 0.6
Base Residual $36,837
Mileage 8,500
Mileage Deduction $2,125
Residual $34,712

Yes, demo cars are subject to both a residual % reduction and a per mile deduction on the standard residual.

With 8500 miles, first subtract 6% from the posted residual (54%), then the $2125 mileage deduction.

Confirm the above with your dealer, but it will result in a much higher lease payment than on a car with 0 miles. The idea is that you should obtain a much bigger discount from sticker than a new car, else why lease a demo?

Thank you. What is the threshold for the additional 6% reduction? Should I target exec demo vehicles with <5000 Miles?</p>

0-4999 .25 per mile
5000-7499 subtract 4% and .25 per mile
7500-9999 subtract 6% and .25 per mile

hummus

Would like to get feedback on this deal:
2017: 440i convertible
msrp: 65000
sell price: 58600
MF: .00162
36 mo/45 k
1620 total drive off
735 monthly total with tax (cali)

Michaell

hummus said:

Would like to get feedback on this deal:
2017: 440i convertible
msrp: 65000
sell price: 58600
MF: .00162
36 mo/45 k
1620 total drive off
735 monthly total with tax (cali)

MF is marked up slightly, base is .00152

With your prices, I get $737/mo before tax with inflated MF; $727/mo with base MF

hummus

Thank you Michaell. They are also including the 3k lease credit on top of those numbers. From reading the thread seems like I should be able to under 700 for payments with tax.

Michaell

hummus said:

Thank you Michaell. They are also including the 3k lease credit on top of those numbers. From reading the thread seems like I should be able to under 700 for payments with tax.

Target 7% off sticker, maybe more, before applying the incentives

kalien34

What's the MF and RV for 2017 440i xDrive GC? I came across this BMW company car with 18,000 miles on it, quoted at 43,942 (MSRP 58,095). I wonder what's the lowest monthly payment I could get with a 36/10k term with zero down? (location Chicago IL). Or I should not even consider it given the higher mileage? Thanks.

Michaell

kalien34 said:

What's the MF and RV for 2017 440i xDrive GC? I came across this BMW company car with 18,000 miles on it, quoted at 43,942 (MSRP 58,095). I wonder what's the lowest monthly payment I could get with a 36/10k term with zero down? (location Chicago IL). Or I should not even consider it given the higher mileage? Thanks.

If it's been titled, it would go through the CPO lease program, which I have no information about.

If it's new, you wouldn't want to lease it with that many miles on it....

kalien34

Michaell said:

kalien34 said:

What's the MF and RV for 2017 440i xDrive GC? I came across this BMW company car with 18,000 miles on it, quoted at 43,942 (MSRP 58,095). I wonder what's the lowest monthly payment I could get with a 36/10k term with zero down? (location Chicago IL). Or I should not even consider it given the higher mileage? Thanks.

If it's been titled, it would go through the CPO lease program, which I have no information about.

If it's new, you wouldn't want to lease it with that many miles on it....

I am told it's never been titled. What's the exact reason that I wouldn't want to lease it? Is it because of the lowered RV%? With the current info what monthly payment amount would you get?

Michaell

kalien34 said:

Michaell said:

kalien34 said:

What's the MF and RV for 2017 440i xDrive GC? I came across this BMW company car with 18,000 miles on it, quoted at 43,942 (MSRP 58,095). I wonder what's the lowest monthly payment I could get with a 36/10k term with zero down? (location Chicago IL). Or I should not even consider it given the higher mileage? Thanks.

If it's been titled, it would go through the CPO lease program, which I have no information about.

If it's new, you wouldn't want to lease it with that many miles on it....

I am told it's never been titled. What's the exact reason that I wouldn't want to lease it? Is it because of the lowered RV%? With the current info what monthly payment amount would you get?

The adjusted RV will absolutely kill you - 6% lower than standard, plus .25/mile.

But, let's do the math ....

.00152 and 58%

Less 6% and $4500

$527/mo plus tax

You live in the city of Chicago? If so, your total tax rate between the city and state is something like 17% - total is roughly $617/mo

You could probably lease one with close to 0 miles on it for not much more, frankly.

Has the dealer given you any idea how the warranty would work?

kalien34

Michaell said:

kalien34 said:

Michaell said:

kalien34 said:

What's the MF and RV for 2017 440i xDrive GC? I came across this BMW company car with 18,000 miles on it, quoted at 43,942 (MSRP 58,095). I wonder what's the lowest monthly payment I could get with a 36/10k term with zero down? (location Chicago IL). Or I should not even consider it given the higher mileage? Thanks.

If it's been titled, it would go through the CPO lease program, which I have no information about.

If it's new, you wouldn't want to lease it with that many miles on it....

I am told it's never been titled. What's the exact reason that I wouldn't want to lease it? Is it because of the lowered RV%? With the current info what monthly payment amount would you get?

The adjusted RV will absolutely kill you - 6% lower than standard, plus .25/mile.

But, let's do the math ....

.00152 and 58%

Less 6% and $4500

$527/mo plus tax

You live in the city of Chicago? If so, your total tax rate between the city and state is something like 17% - total is roughly $617/mo

You could probably lease one with close to 0 miles on it for not much more, frankly.

Has the dealer given you any idea how the warranty would work?

They basically told me I'd have full coverage of the warranty till January 2021 or 50k miles, and since it has never been privately titled I have the full maintenance included.

I am completely new to leasing a car so not sure what they told me make sense or not. They just told me they will have a way to get me a lease on this vehicle so will wait to see what number they come back with.

Michaell

kalien34 said:

Michaell said:

kalien34 said:

Michaell said:

kalien34 said:

What's the MF and RV for 2017 440i xDrive GC? I came across this BMW company car with 18,000 miles on it, quoted at 43,942 (MSRP 58,095). I wonder what's the lowest monthly payment I could get with a 36/10k term with zero down? (location Chicago IL). Or I should not even consider it given the higher mileage? Thanks.

If it's been titled, it would go through the CPO lease program, which I have no information about.

If it's new, you wouldn't want to lease it with that many miles on it....

I am told it's never been titled. What's the exact reason that I wouldn't want to lease it? Is it because of the lowered RV%? With the current info what monthly payment amount would you get?

The adjusted RV will absolutely kill you - 6% lower than standard, plus .25/mile.

But, let's do the math ....

.00152 and 58%

Less 6% and $4500

$527/mo plus tax

You live in the city of Chicago? If so, your total tax rate between the city and state is something like 17% - total is roughly $617/mo

You could probably lease one with close to 0 miles on it for not much more, frankly.

Has the dealer given you any idea how the warranty would work?

They basically told me I'd have full coverage of the warranty till January 2021 or 50k miles, and since it has never been privately titled I have the full maintenance included.

I am completely new to leasing a car so not sure what they told me make sense or not. They just told me they will have a way to get me a lease on this vehicle so will wait to see what number they come back with.

I'm not sure I'd do something this complicated your first time out. And, with 18,000 miles on the car, you'd only have 32,000 miles of coverage. Though, I suppose you only plan to put 30,000 miles on the car in the lease term.