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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited November 2021
    This one must now be rare here



    Not sure what's happening with the rear wheel
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    The GTO on page 1293 is a 1970. Nice car, great color, too!

    You're correct, I owned a similar car that had been repainted an orangy red w black interior, 400CID/4speed (rare in convertible Goats that MY). Mine was in kinda rough shape .

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  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    I like the Ben-Hur wheel.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330
    That looks like an approx 1969 Toyota Crown station wagon.

    In Japan and possibly other markets, this was available as a pickup or ute style as well.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    Looks like a dually with the outer wheel removed. :D
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,772
    @xwesx,
    I thought the same thing. Maybe they attach another wheel to run something like a saw or a pump.
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    The Toyota was a 1969 2300 Crown Estate and it was different from hte contemporary saloon in Britain as that had a revised grille whereas this version was an earlier model. It was sold here rather than a grey import though pretty rare and probably extinct by now

    The person who took the picture commented below it that it was taken in 1980 something and that the wheel hubs on both sides appeared to be off a double wheeled axle - presumably it was patched up to keep an old banger running.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,471
    Old beater then, incredibly rare car today. The Crown of that era was actually sold in the USDM too, but I have no clear memory of ever having seen one in person.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    What's wrong with this picture?



    Hint: It doesn't look like what it's supposed to be.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    Well, it looks like a 2002 Impala. Beyond that, I don’t have a clue, unless it’s a perspective shot of a model, or has a non Chevy engine.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,465

    That an SS?

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,037

    Only thing I can think of is it is a police version with a street appearance package. 9C3 I believe is the GM lingo.

    Ford kept it simple with the Vic … they were SAPs.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330
    fintail said:

    Old beater then, incredibly rare car today. The Crown of that era was actually sold in the USDM too, but I have no clear memory of ever having seen one in person.

    I remember seeing a few up here. The one that seemed more rare then and now was the subsequent generation with the futuristic front end. I assume it was not well-received by buyers.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    tmart said:

    Well, it looks like a 2002 Impala. Beyond that, I don’t have a clue, unless it’s a perspective shot of a model, or has a non Chevy engine.

    Right it is a 2002 Impala but if it's an Impala why only four round tailights? Are they so ignorant at GM styling that they don't know four t/ls signify a lower line car?? I think they lost the plot around the mid 70s when they stopped using round tailights and went to rectangular ones. Now they use rectangulars that light up (4)round ones. I can't prove it but I'd bet they lost many sales from old timers because they didn't look like a "real" Impala.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330
    Oh... well, let me tell you a story.

    I think that generation of Impala debuted for the 2000 model year. When they first arrived at the nearest dealer, my car buddy and I happened to see some parked out front for the first time and stopped to take a look.

    A more unhappy design would be hard to do. I remember the cheap wheel covers, the crummy cloth seat upholstery, the black-eyed headlights, and especially those rear lights. We both had a similar comment about how an Impala was supposed to have 3 taillights if you were going to use individual round units. It was just a very disappointing effort, even for GM at the time which wasn't turning out compelling product.

    As we were walking around them, a sales guy came out to talk to us. An older fellow, and we told him we were just curious to see the new model. He asked what we thought of it, and either myself or my buddy said how disappointing it was. The sales guy nodded and said, "Yep. Look at this," pointing to the rear lights. "Shoulda called it a Biscayne."

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330
    Main Street small-town USA, unknown location, 1969 or thereabouts.


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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    58 Ford in front of the gold Barracuda.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,471
    If the weirdo model was sold in the USDM, it was briefly. Most I see of that style for sale on this side of the pond are in Canada, I have seen a few for sale in BC. There was a hardtop coupe in Kelowna or Kamloops that the owner was trying to sell for a batty number, and it would pop up on CL now and then. Kind of a guilty pleasure car.
    ab348 said:

    fintail said:

    Old beater then, incredibly rare car today. The Crown of that era was actually sold in the USDM too, but I have no clear memory of ever having seen one in person.

    I remember seeing a few up here. The one that seemed more rare then and now was the subsequent generation with the futuristic front end. I assume it was not well-received by buyers.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,471
    Travelall near the "keep right" sign, I see a 58 Ford in the rightmost lane, and 5 cars ahead of it, a Pinto.

    Designs aged quickly then too, maybe not as sharply as 1950-60, but still a rapid progression. Add the inconsistent rustproofing and durability of some period cars, and the time around 1970 being the probable zenith of working/middle class purchasing power, and I'd expect a lot of people could justify new cars for the sake of it.
    ab348 said:

    Main Street small-town USA, unknown location, 1969 or thereabouts.

  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    Something I liked about those Impalas of the early 2000s was that they were made with a cable connection going from the accelerator pedal to the butterfly. I liked that responsive acceleration much better than the later Impala's fly by wire.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,772
    edited November 2021
    I had a loaner 200x Impala for 3 weeks. Seat had no lower back support and it had strange handling.
    There was one corner on the interstate where I had to make a noticeable mid corner correction.
    Never had to do that in any other cars. I tried changing speeds and lanes, but made no difference.
    Swapped it for a Saab 9-5, which was much better.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,465
    my FIL had one of that generation Impala. A relatively base model I think. I took it once to drive some people to the airport. I hated it. just not comfortable, and drove lousy. And of course pretty big.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,465
    Light blue falcon front and center.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Bonus point for the location on this one....

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited November 2021
    Interesing pic, the car is the Komb (wagon) version of the Borgward Isabella (c. late 50s.early 60s). Here it is from the front>




    My WAG for location: Gibraltar!

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Yes - it was registered in Gibraltar...

    At one time GB meant cars registered in UK, but there are a few odd islands - and Gibraltar -which have a three letter code

    Gibraltar is not part of the UK legally but its also not allowed to be a separate state - this goes back to the treaty when Spain lost it in the 1700s

    For the Channel Islands just off the west coast of Normandy, they are not part of the UK but are directly subject to the Crown - they have their own parliaments and each of the islands has a separate code - GBJ is Jersey GBG is Guernsey and there is a third one - GBA for Alderney but I've never seen one of those.
    In the Irish Sea there is the Isle of Man - GBM - which also has its own parliament.

    Until the sixties Malta also had a code - GBY but got its own code - M - when it got full independence - it's a republic now.

    Since February 2021 UK cars are now required to have a sticker showing UK instead of GB - this is mainly because the situation in Northern Ireland is complex for many reasons and as that is part of the UK there are pressures in some communities not to have GB - and the other communities there are similarly keen to have UK shown for their preference.

    For a number of years British cars had a blue band on the left side of the plate showing the EU circle of stars and the letters GB but now new cars get the same blue band but instead they will show a British flag and the letters UK

    This was agreed at the time of Brexit negotiations and the whole issue of customs access from the EU to Northern Ireland has become complex - and even more so from continental EU nations across to the Republic of Ireland which is of course a full member of the EU - it also means that for the first time the UK now has a full land border with the EU - which is pretty much open apart from some checks on agricultural products.

    (there is of course a land border below the English Channel but that is in the tunnel -and not exactly something you can walk across...)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Gibraltar was really a guess, based on a thought of what GBX could possibly mean.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,010
    andys120 said:


    Lancia?

    Looks too long for a Beta

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,465
    I thought it was an Alfa. Version of the Alfasud?

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330
    The crew is slow off the mark this morning. That's an '80s Alfa Romeo GTV6. Here's a Harry's Garage review:

    https://youtu.be/I9yhdKeUbwQ

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    Made famous in the Bond classic Octopussy.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    ab348 said:

    The crew is slow off the mark this morning. That's an '80s Alfa Romeo GTV6. Here's a Harry's Garage review:

    https://youtu.be/I9yhdKeUbwQ

    What he said.


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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited November 2021

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,772
    Can you believe they were able to arrest the suspect in a convenience store robbery by identifying the get away car?

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,599
    andys120 said:


    75-76 Olds Omega

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Close it's a '77 Olds F-85 Omega

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330
    Curious, that. I do see the F-85 badge on the fender bottom. But it also has bright side window moldings. The F-85 model was a strippo special and the brochure specifically notes that it did not have those moldings. Curious.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,599
    I didn't know the F-85 name had been resurrected. The base Omega wasn't fancy, so the F-85 must be really basic. Another way Olds diluted its desirability.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,471
    Dick's, a Seattle institution, Capital Hill - this location is relatively the same today, but the surroundings have changed a bit.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    Kind of looks like you got those pics from some proto-google maps!
  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 825
    1953 Oldsmobile.
    1956 Oldsmobile.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,465
    Looks like early toilet seat trunk lid valiant next to the Canada Dry panel van

    Is the roadster an MGA?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,010
    stickguy said:

    Looks like early toilet seat trunk lid valiant next to the Canada Dry panel van

    Is the roadster an MGA?

    With the cutaway door, I'll guess it's a Triumph, not an MG

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,471
    I see MGA in that roadster, too.

    Modern day Google street view:


  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    PT Cruiser, Fiât 600.
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,599
    fintail said:

    I see MGA in that roadster, too.

    Modern day Google street view:


    Drat, no more 19c burgers.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    yeah, what's up with that?! Hahah

    It's impressive that they have managed to keep so much history on the site in that area.
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,684
    edited November 2021
    I like seeing the modern day location pictures.

    I recall going to McDonalds in downtown Muncie, Indiana, for a 25 cent hamburger as a break from college studying.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,772
    Hasn't completely dried out from the original pics either. :D
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