Mystery car pix

andys120

Mr_Shiftright

Oh I've had my nose (and elbows) in many of those---it's a Jaguar--probably 4.2 from the E-Type?

Great, great engine, but everything attached to it questionable. :P

texases

"Great, great engine, but everything attached to it questionable"

So THAT'S why folks yank it out for a SBC...what a bunch of maroons!

Mr_Shiftright

Exactly right--take the single best part out of a Jaguar and chuck it---makes a whole lotta sense, yeah?

Maybe somebody should mention more often that that Jaguar engine was in production for about 40 years? Equal to stovebolt six.

Chevy SB is a great engine, too, but has none of the smoothness or proper sound of the Jaguar, and often ends up stressing most of the other Jaguar parts (except the diff, which is pretty strong), to say nothing of the vibrations in the driveline and possible frame damage from the torque.

You end up with a bad Jaguar and a bad Chevy.

texases

The Jag 6 is at the top of my list of 'best looking engines' - I'd put one in the living room, but the wife might not appreciate it....

Mr_Shiftright

What you gotta do is start off asking for more than you want---say, a 12 cylinder Jag engine---then pretend to compromise---see if you can bargain down to the 6, and if not, fall back on an Alfa Romeo ohc 4 or a Lancia V-4.

andys120

Yup, it's a Jaguar DOHC six but not the 4.2, it's a 3.8 litre from a '61-'64 E-Type S1.

Mr_Shiftright

I should have looked for that bypass pipe that goes over the valve covers, or the alternator shield, etc. It's been a long time.

andys120

lemko

Cunningham C-3? Not sure of the year. Guess about a 1953.

Kirstie_H

andys120

Looks like either a late Jaguar Mk.II Saloon or a Jag 420 ca. mid 60s.

Mr_Shiftright

No that looks like the 3.8 "S", sort of a mutt to some Jaguar enthusiasts with a MkII-like front end but the back end of a Mark X. What that looks like in real life is two different cars welded together---which you can't really see in that photo.

Not one of my favorite cars and worth a *lot* less than the MkII 3.8.

Kirstie_H

It is, indeed, a 3.8 s from South Africa, 1966. It's a weird-looking one to me.

Now that you mention value, what's it worth(ish)? Comes with replacement bumper, grill, and a fender, and interior leather is new. Just curious... a friend of mine is selling it after his father passed away.

Mr_Shiftright

So it's a right hand drive car? Is it an automatic? (both of those are big deducts).

They aren't terribly valuable: Look HERE:

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/jaguar/3.8s/1385541.html

I've seen them from $1000 for a solid, complete, very restorable non-running car to $12,000 for a real beauty.

I would guess that car is worth a few thousand dollars as it is. Of course, one must check these cars for rust as they are serious serious rusters in the frame area, under the engine.

magnette

Behind the Cunningham, and the XK120, is a Rolls Royce Silver Wraith, which I think is a one-off by Inskip, as the side details are identical in a picture I have found (in a book) of it although the colour in the black and white picture I have must have been different some years ago as it was a two-tone paint job. Apparently this car was at the 1949 New York show. It was owned for years by a chap in Minnesota, and is apparently chassis number WZB36 - assuming no other replicas were made by Inskip later.

texases

Thanks for making me go back and look for that Rolls - very distinctive!

And might that be an A-M DB-? behind it?

fintail

Looks like an early Bentley Continental behind the flamboyant Rolls, to me.

And way in the background, maybe a Bugatti

magnette

I'm with you on the Bentley and the Bugatti - no idea what model that would be and out of our period, and not big enough for a Royale, so maybe something in the mid size - perhaps a model 30 or a 49 series.

Kirstie_H

Definitely right-hand drive, not sure about transmission.

Interesting - I know there's a lot of variability in condition and pricing on these old cars. The friend didn't ask, so I'm not going to stick in my 2 cents re: pricing, but my first thought when I saw his asking price was "too high." I wouldn't doubt there's some rust. It's been living in Kansas for quite awhile.

Mr_Shiftright

Well if he's asking too high a price, the phone just won't ring---buyers these days are quite savvy about values on old cars---very few rubes out there anymore.

andys120

robr2

2013 Toyota Park Ave - ehm - Avalon.

stickguy

vastly better than a Camry looks-wise

tjc78

Looks like a newer Sonata. I was checking it out earlier, looks to be a winner. The current Avalon hasn't really changed since 05.

fintail

No view of that oh so pretty front end? :shades:

lemmer

qbrozen

The Money Pit. :P

tjc78

Yes and in the movie the woman driving it, said it was a Lincoln. What year/model I don't know.

fintail

Yep, The Money Pit - classic. I think the Lincoln is roughly a 1928-29 model.

lemmer

Yes, Money Pit. I have no idea about the car. I like it though.

Not sure the movie is a classic either. But I did just watch it again.

fintail

I remember it in the movie - it's definitely a Lincoln (and Maureen Stapleton refers to it as such). I like it in that condition, with a huge layer of patina.

The movie also features a brief scene in a MB showroom ca. 1985 - the glory years.

I wish we had some of the laugh and quote worthy movies today that we had in the 80s.

ateixeira

Nissan NV, right?

Good luck selling that. They managed to squeeze in the ugly from vans and trucks at the same time. Impressive!

stever

You got it mon. :-)

Welcome back. No exotic car pics?

ateixeira

I saw a Skyline, but it wasn't even a GT-R....

andys120

Mr_Shiftright

to anyone who can identify this vehicle!!

(I'm lying actually about the money)

but you might get a Shiftright Gold Star !



HINT: It is American, it was produced in the hundreds.

Significance? Some historicans call it "The First American SUV"

jwilliams2

That's a Powell Sport Wagon....probably 1955 or 56, usually built on early 40's Plymouth chassis scrounged from junkyards, then rebuilt with this body. Kind of a novel idea, but they just couldn't find enough junkers to use.

Mr_Shiftright

"...pay to the order of jwilliams, one mill....." Oh, there you are

That's right. They built over 300 of these. Remember what else this company made, in even larger numbers?

(I just saw 3 for sale on craigslist).

kyfdx

Is the "Powell", in reference to Powell Crosley?

If so, then I say radios and refrigerators...

Mr_Shiftright

Mr Powell might have had an association with Crosley in the 1920s, but no, the Powell Brothers are better known for something else.

berri

I'll take some guesses. 60 Olds, 61 or 62 Tempest, 57 Chevy, mid 60's Studebaker, 58 Chevy and a 58-60 Lincoln. That's as best as I can define them.

jwilliams2

They made motor scooters and trail bikes, not sure what else.

andys120

At imbd.com they think the Stude is a '62, don't ask me how they can tell but it's definitely a Lark IMO. The car coming down the street is a '58 Chevrolet and I think you're correct about the Lincoln behind it.

It's odd to see so many cars representing a small span of only six years. You'd think there'd be more iron from the early 50s. Note the lack of either imports or pickup trucks.

That stretch or Route 7 in Bennington VT looks much the same today.

Mr_Shiftright

Good, good. That was one of their major products...but they also made one other vehicle---over 1,000 of them.

jwilliams2

Pick up truck....email me for an address to send the million to... :P

Mr_Shiftright

Hey I did half the work here....

Yes, the Powell pick up. Not the most handsome vehicle but really, no uglier than an International of the day.

stickguy

wgrafer

I can narrow down the Lincoln behind the '58 Chevy as a 1959.

andys120

How'd you figure that? I looked at it with a magnifying glass and couldn't tell.