Mystery car pix

andys120

My apologies Shifty, apparently the Giulia SS had the same body as the earlier Giulietta dating back to 1956
In my defense, dat'sa pretty far out bodywork for '56.

Not to mention the confusing nomenclature employed by Alfa at the time: Giulias, Giuliettas, Sprint, Sprint Veloce, Sprint Speciale :confuse: :confuse:

andys120

Mr_Shiftright

They used to have a Giulietta Sprint Normale and a Giulietta Sprint Veloce (also a Spider) and if people "faked" the Veloce by putting a Veloce engine in a Normale they would call them "Abnormales"

andys120

Well that certainly helps keep it straight. :sick:

imidazol97

Chevy II 1967, very red.

andys120

It's a '66 Chevy II Nova/283.

andys120

subearu

That is what evolved in the current TL. That is the Vigor from Acura.

-Brian

kyfdx

Actually... We had that exact Vigor.. It is a GS model.. you can tell because the body side moldings are body color, rather than black..

They were made from '92-'94... Ours was a '94.. we leased it and the money factor was something like.. .00001 They were really trying to get rid of them....

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the MSRP of the Vigor GS in 1994? Standard moonroof, single CD, alloys, leather, power seats/windows/locks..etc..etc..

fintail

21K?

fiatowner

My family had a couple of XJ6s when this model was current, but only the 4.2 - which looked identical to the 2.8, except the rear badge - the V12 wasn't launched until 4 years later - hence 1972 registration in the example shown - but they had a really understated badge on the grille for the 12 - it was just a vertical strip with v12 on it, and on the back they had 5.3, instead of 4.2 etc. You knew when it pulled away though....
The leaping Jaguar was left off Jags here by this time because of pedestrian injury concerns, but it was sometimes fitted by owners, although I remember someone telling me that their Jag failed its MOT (annual vehicle test) for this, and they had to take it off. Usually, safety modifications were as a result of US legislation, ie MG rubber bumpers, so I am surprised that we seem to have got this aspect covered first.

fiatowner

They were smooth, but no leg room in the rear, until they extended the wheelbase by about an inch or so, which I think was around the same time as the 12 was launched - I think the XJ6 was sold as XJ6L with this for a while, but it became standard soon after.
Fastest I ever drove was in a 1970 4.2, when I did 120 on a motorway, which wouldn't sound much in Germany but is 50 over our speed limit here - my own cars have mostly been a lot tamer, otherwise my licence would have gone years ago....
Doesn't compare with an E type, though, for looks esp.the early coupe.

fiatowner

They are confusing - I always thought the SS had a longer tail, but they were so rare here I think I've only seen one or two. The tamer ones were a lot more common, though - and less expensive. I used to work with a chap who was using a 1967 Guilia Spider as everyday transport until recently, but they are mostly cosseted away in garages for weekend use - his would rust if there was a cloudy sky!.

boomchek

$29100: Acura Vigor, 1994 Road & Track buyer's Guide

navigator89

boomchek

That's a Camry from 1988 to about 1993.

andys120

Didn't GMC "invent" this recently?>>

kyfdx

Hey, good "guess"...

$29K... can you believe it? A new '06 TL is still under $34K...

We leased it for $331/mo. for 3yr/45K.. taxes included..

regards,
kyfdx

fiatowner

We are in the realms of a totally unfamiliar make with this one, from my point of view, as Acura isn't known here, and the domestic or Euro models we get/got instead differ as to specification. Always confuses me , anyway!

fiatowner

I know this is a Studebaker and I'm guessing 64/65, but I can't remember the model. I had a Matchbox toy of this one, complete with a sliding roof!

bumpy

$29K... can you believe it? A new '06 TL is still under $34K...

Keep in mind that was the period when the appreciating yen had Supra TTs going for close to $50k.

andys120

I know this is a Studebaker and I'm guessing 64/65, but I can't remember the model. I had a Matchbox toy of this one, complete with a sliding roof!

Yep, '65 Commander Wagonaire. I'd forgotten all about it til I stumbled on it surfing the web.

navigator89

stickguy

looks like a late Dodge Stealth. But, if you squint, it resembles the new Eclipse.

ateixeira

Rats, I knew both the Studebaker (my buddy lark6 would kill me if I didn't know that one) and the Stealth.

The Stealth looks like a base model. I think the DOHC engine had 222hp, the turbo made 300 and later 320hp. It had AWD too, but they were pretty heavy and expensive, too.

The whole segment crashed (RX7, Supra, 300ZX), but the 3000GT (its clone) was the last one standing when all was said and done.

-juice

lemmer

I think only the Mitsu got the 222hp base engine, with the Stealth getting something like 161.

It defies logic that the worst of the segment was the last standing. I guess having cheaper base models helped. It was a stretched FWD Eclipse platform.

bumpy

It was a stretched FWD Eclipse platform.

The Stealth/3000GT? You're thinking of the Dodge Avenger.

ateixeira

I think that model was the successor to the Starion/Conquest from the 80s. Though I'm sure the platforms shared things in common.

-juice

lemmer

from Consumer Guide Used Cars:

Dodge dove directly into the high-performance field with its own version of the new Japanese 2+2 sport coupe. Called 3000GT in Mitsubishi form, the platform was based on that used by the Mitsubishi Eclipse/Eagle Talon coupes. All shared the same wheelbase, but the assertive Stealth and 3000GT bodies measured 10 inches longer overall and six inches wider.

ateixeira

That's a huge stretch. They must've stretched the chassis as well (wheelbase and track).

At some point it's like the Pilot vs. Accord, the former being so much beefier that it's only loosely based on that platform, and not really sharing a chassis.

-juice

andys120

fintail

Looks like a 62 Chevy I'll guess Biscayne (maybe BelAir), looks like a 409 sleeper car

andys120

Looks like a 62 Chevy I'll guess Biscayne (maybe BelAir), looks like a 409 sleeper car

"She's real fine my 409!" It's a Biscayne and a good example of what the fast car guys bought when they bought American Iron in '62:n o fancy trim, HT, buckets, air or anything else that added weight.

It was still a couple of years till the smaller intermediates came w big motors.

Mr_Shiftright

There's nothing new under the automotive sun. Most of our "inventions" can be traced to WAYYYYY back in automotive history----but they just didn't have the technology to make their inventions practical (e.g., fuel injection in 1901), retractable hardtops (1937), etc. etc.

Stealth/3000GT -- very very interesting and attactive cars but rather porky to say the least, and the interior designer should have been taken out and shot, no really.

andys120

ateixeira

Chrysler LeBaron clone, I think it was called the Dodge Lancer?

Probably '88 or so.

-juice

lemmer

Shelby Lancer

I edited this. At first I threw in all of the period Dodge and Chrysler names, so I only get partial credit.

boomchek

That looks like the Shelby version of Dodge Lancer, 1989 model. Twin Turbo 174HP 4 cyl engine, stiffer suspension, different wheels and tires. I imagine it must have been a decent pocket rocket at the time. Looks good too even today IMO.

au94

of all the K car variants, this would be my favorite.

I agree with Boomchek, still looks good today. With a little styling freshening, updating (safety equip)and MB influence, could be a nice ride if it was released today.

ateixeira

Is that a Maserati Quattroporte?

-juice

boomchek

Nope, not even close but good try.

au94

Aston Martin Lagonda. Ugly as sin if you ask me.

boomchek

It is a Lagonda. IMO it looked good back then but aged very quickly. Here's another pic from the front:


Car had problems with electronics when it came out and cost more than originally predicted. Only 645 were built between 1976 and 1990.

au94

yes, from what I have read the later versions cleared up some of the electrical demons. did not realize that few were made. wonder if they are worth anything today? seems like there was a discussion about this on another board a few weeks ago...

ateixeira

Hard to believe that came between the DB5 and the Vantage chronologically, even if it's not the same model.

-juice

boomchek

andys120

Rolls Royce Camargue

boomchek

Correct. Only 534 were made between 1975 and 1986. Not the prettiest of the RRs but it's looks are growing on me. Give it another 20 years and I'll like it. :P

How about this classic:

lemmer

Toyota 2000 GT

boomchek

Yup, love the lines on that car. I think Toyota was thinking about resurrectin g the name or the car.