Spotted in the paper just now - an ’81 X-11 Citation:
"Mr. Spiegel is fond of his car’s 4-speed manual transmission. “I wouldn’t have bought one with the automatic,” he said. “It’s pretty quick with the 4-speed. It’s very light, about 2,700 pounds.”
His favorite aspect is the car’s styling.
“I like the boxy look, especially the front end,” he said. “It’s totally different from early 1970s cars and totally different than the later 1980s."
I like the "It's very light, about 2700 pounds". Even my Magnette isn't more than 2300 pounds, and all my other cars, ever, have been under 2240 (I think that is a ton although I am rusty with non metric stuff). We have smaller cars over here, for sure.
Had to look it up but 2240 is a long ton to us. Well, a long ton to you, I don't know if it is used much here, if at all. Maybe in some industries - wiki says that's how they measure aviation fuel.
Our ton is 2,000 pounds. A short ton in other words, but we don't say that in normal conversation - we just say ton. Pronounced tonne, lol.
My draped item could be going to the boat show, but it's a towing rig under the cloth, not a speedboat. The new Colorado will be reviled at the LA Auto Show next week.
(Well, when the drapery is lifted, it'll only be reviled by half the crowd over in the State of the US Auto Market discussion. )
hey, we had a Korvettes near me growing up in NY. Long since gone.
I will take the IH Travelall in the middle. early 60's someplace. Back when SUVs stuck out as novelties (and were taller than everything else on the road!)
I remember EJ Korvettes having great stereo and record departments with very good prices. I can't get my view to widen, but I think it's a 63 Ford across from the 55 Chevy. The car next to the 55 Chevy might be some kind of large Dodge?
'"E" is for Eugene, my first name, and "J" stands for Joe Swillenberg, my associate and my pal. As for "Korvette," it was originally meant to be spelled with a "C" after the Canadian marine sub-destroyer, simply because I thought the name had a euphonious ring. When it came time to register the name, we found it was illegal to use a naval class identity, so we had to change the spelling to "K."
( He was a WW II vet, though. and Jewish--Eugene Ferkauf).
That's interesting. I worked at a Korvette's while a teenager. I remember hearing it stood for Eleven Jewish Korean War Veterans. I just figured that was a bunch of bunk. But it looks like there may have been a bit of basis behind it now.
I think that's a '63 Valiant, which would have had the lower, horizontal taillights. '64 and '65 models had the vertical taillight lenses.
My maternal grandmother lived in West Islip, L.I., NY and I can remember walking from her house to Korvette's for something to do in the summer when we'd go visit her.
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...and after the Citation the J-Body Cavalier/Sunbird/Cimarron/Firenza/J2000 was born. GM sold millions of them, even with the crappy brakes.
I had a 1987 Cavalier Z-24 w/ 5 speed manual. It was red with the hood scoops, lower body fairing and had the 2.8 liter V6 Multi Point F/I engine. (The 86 Z-24 had TBI (Toilet Bowl F/I and was no where near as good as the MFI).
I was 19 when I got it. I loved it. If I would have had some sense I should have rolled it into my folks garage after I was done with it, and kept it.
Just subtract 10 years and make it a Ford Mustang Cobra II with a 302 V-8, and a tiny 2-bbl carb...
I loved my car, too... but, I'm glad I dumped it for $1500 at just five years old and 48K miles... This 18-yr old had just plain worn that piece of crap out... ;-)
I don't think it's a Ford - Ford had headlights integrated into the fenders for 37 onward. The little accent line on the side of the hood going into the door is a giveaway. That combined with what looks like a hood vents with strong horizontal details makes me think 1938 Chevy.
I'm going with Fin. When I was a little kid one of our neighbors had a second car which was a dark green 2 door Chevy of that era. This pix reminds me of it for some reason.
You are really moving onto difficult stuff. Chinese cars are not my bag, but are weird enough to keep these pages going for years.
I know that the odd bonnet ornament is the emblem of Red Flag of China (Hongqi) which did limousines for the Chinese elite. When you see images of senior military leaders reviewing troops, they often have their upper body thrust through a large sunroof opening. If you search for Nixon's trip to China, I think they feature as the bulletproof car in which Nixon rode with Mao.
The bonnet emblem is obvious and often these cars also carry red flags on their front bumper.
They had some sort of tie up with Lincoln, either knocking off the limousine designs or maybe some sort of technology transfer deal. Very early, there was a limousine which looked like a Mercedes 600 Pullman long wheelbase, but with Toyota Crown design cues.
No idea what this model is or was inspired by. Bits scream Audi 100, but then I think 1980's Nissan (rear quarter and nose). It is unlikely to be wholly original
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I can't think of the model name, however. Do I get partial credit, professor?
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Sibling of the Chevy Citation, Pontiac Phoenix and Buick Skylark.
"Mr. Spiegel is fond of his car’s 4-speed manual transmission. “I wouldn’t have bought one with the automatic,” he said. “It’s pretty quick with the 4-speed. It’s very light, about 2,700 pounds.”
His favorite aspect is the car’s styling.
“I like the boxy look, especially the front end,” he said. “It’s totally different from early 1970s cars and totally different than the later 1980s."
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There's no accounting for taste is there.
That was the X-11's sibling the Olds Omega., Wasn't the Alero the real omega of Oldsmobile?:P
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Kind of silly but may as well put this up:
Our ton is 2,000 pounds. A short ton in other words, but we don't say that in normal conversation - we just say ton. Pronounced tonne, lol.
My draped item could be going to the boat show, but it's a towing rig under the cloth, not a speedboat. The new Colorado will be reviled at the LA Auto Show next week.
(Well, when the drapery is lifted, it'll only be reviled by half the crowd over in the State of the US Auto Market discussion.
I will take the IH Travelall in the middle. early 60's someplace. Back when SUVs stuck out as novelties (and were taller than everything else on the road!)
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There is a 61(?) Cadillac to the right side of the Dodge.
I think you're right, berri. Looks like a '60 Dodge to me.
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According to local lore where I grew up on Long Island "E.J. Korvette's" was an acronym for Eight Jewish Korean War Veterans.
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'"E" is for Eugene, my first name, and "J" stands for Joe Swillenberg, my associate and my pal. As for "Korvette," it was originally meant to be spelled with a "C" after the Canadian marine sub-destroyer, simply because I thought the name had a euphonious ring. When it came time to register the name, we found it was illegal to use a naval class identity, so we had to change the spelling to "K."
( He was a WW II vet, though. and Jewish--Eugene Ferkauf).
My maternal grandmother lived in West Islip, L.I., NY and I can remember walking from her house to Korvette's for something to do in the summer when we'd go visit her.
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I had a 1987 Cavalier Z-24 w/ 5 speed manual. It was red with the hood scoops, lower body fairing and had the 2.8 liter V6 Multi Point F/I engine. (The 86 Z-24 had TBI (Toilet Bowl F/I and was no where near as good as the MFI).
I was 19 when I got it. I loved it. If I would have had some sense I should have rolled it into my folks garage after I was done with it, and kept it.
Just subtract 10 years and make it a Ford Mustang Cobra II with a 302 V-8, and a tiny 2-bbl carb...
I loved my car, too... but, I'm glad I dumped it for $1500 at just five years old and 48K miles... This 18-yr old had just plain worn that piece of crap out... ;-)
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Now I see why these prewar cars are off-topic in here - they all look alike.
Note: these were popular as police cars in a country where (unlike the USA) police units were better looking than the average sedan.
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You are really moving onto difficult stuff. Chinese cars are not my bag, but are weird enough to keep these pages going for years.
I know that the odd bonnet ornament is the emblem of Red Flag of China (Hongqi) which did limousines for the Chinese elite. When you see images of senior military leaders reviewing troops, they often have their upper body thrust through a large sunroof opening. If you search for Nixon's trip to China, I think they feature as the bulletproof car in which Nixon rode with Mao.
The bonnet emblem is obvious and often these cars also carry red flags on their front bumper.
They had some sort of tie up with Lincoln, either knocking off the limousine designs or maybe some sort of technology transfer deal. Very early, there was a limousine which looked like a Mercedes 600 Pullman long wheelbase, but with Toyota Crown design cues.
No idea what this model is or was inspired by. Bits scream Audi 100, but then I think 1980's Nissan (rear quarter and nose). It is unlikely to be wholly original
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