Mystery car pix

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,129
    With Half Dome in the background. Anyone can climb it, as long as there's no thunderstorms in the area:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    I see the source of the pic (Hemmings) has an even larger version of the pic. I am pretty sure I see a 65 Ford sedan (rear view), behind the Valiant/Dart that is in front of the E-Type.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    It is a good perspective of Shifty's comment on the huge difference between Detroit and foreign cars back then. That XKE 2+2 is simply dwarfed by the Detroit iron around it :D
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    So Fin, you are a fan of the 60 Ford wagon looks; how do you compare that to the full size 63 Ford wagon on the right of the pix? Can't help asking because I've always been a bit of a wagon fan.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    edited January 2017
    I like the 63 too - I like the rear end detail on big 63 Fords, and the wraparound side glass on that era of Ford wagons is a nice touch. I like the 60 mostly out of sentimental fondness, reminds me of my dad, and it was a fun car to tinker with. It is also an interesting design, somewhat resembling a super-sized Euro Ford, with unique gingerbread, bridging the gap between the 50s and 60s.

    There's actually a 60 Ford (or on off-chance, Edsel) wagon in that pic, at fat left near the trees, at about the middle of the lot. Easy to spot with its one year only roofline. There's also a fastback looking car that I think is a Volvo 544.

    Here's the larger pic

    berri said:

    So Fin, you are a fan of the 60 Ford wagon looks; how do you compare that to the full size 63 Ford wagon on the right of the pix? Can't help asking because I've always been a bit of a wagon fan.

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited January 2017
    fintail said:

    I see the source of the pic (Hemmings) has an even larger version of the pic. I am pretty sure I see a 65 Ford sedan (rear view), behind the Valiant/Dart that is in front of the E-Type.



    Good eye! I think you're right about the '65 Ford and I'm pretty sure there's nothing newer
    than '65, most of the cars are 62s and 63s. The Beetles both have the big rear window, I can't recall exactly when those came in but I think either '57 or '59, anyone remember?

    The shape of the roof and headlights sez Dodge Dart to me, I don't think it's a Valiant.

    I too was taken aback by how small the E-Type looks. I've driven them and they never struck me as really small but my benchmark sports cars were big Healeys and TRs.

    Yes every nationality's cars were different, French and Swedish cars featured terrific seats, Brit cars smelled of nice leather and had lots of gauges, Benzes had controls that were unlike any other car's.



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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    edited January 2017
    Beetle went from oval to rectangle rear window for MY 1958. I think the Beetle in the foreground, with its larger windows, is also one of the newest cars visible - I think the windows were enlarged for MY 1965,

    Fascinating pic. I spent some time examining it.

    Edit: looking at the pic more, I see another large window Beetle in the middle row in front of the white Caddy, and there's a 64-65 T-Bird to the left, just in front of the Caddy, too.
    andys120 said:



    Good eye! I think you're right about the '65 Ford and I'm pretty sure there's nothing newer
    than '65, most of the cars are 62s and 63s. The Beetles both have the big rear window, I can't recall exactly when those came in but I think either '57 or '59, anyone remember?

    The shape of the roof and headlights sez Dodge Dart to me, I don't think it's a Valiant.

    I too was taken aback by how small the E-Type looks. I've driven them and they never struck me as really small but my benchmark sports cars were big Healeys and TRs.

    Yes every nationality's cars were different, French and Swedish cars featured terrific seats, Brit cars smelled of nice leather and had lots of gauges, Benzes had controls that were unlike any other car's.



  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited January 2017
    When you're done rock-climbing, try this one. I warn you, this is something of a shifty-shiftright trick. It's a regular production car, nothing that sneaky. Bonus points for the model name.


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I think it's a DeSoto ca.1949, perhaps a "Suburban".

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    1950 Plymouth Suburban.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Nope, it's not a Plymouth and but it is 1950 and part of its name is "Suburban"--but it had another name to distinguish it from the Plymouth Suburban.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Hmmm.
    How about a '50 Dodge Kingsway Suburban?
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Ahaa!
    Found the badge on the skirt.
    10 more chips on the Dodge Kingsway.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,422
    1975 Pontiac Can Am

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,202
    Not a bad look, considering the era.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478
    I generally don't like large cars, but I always loved that can am.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,690
    edited January 2017
    andys120 said:


    Find the newest...oldest

    OMG. So much to love in that picture. Various trim levels within US brands...

    next to E Type, Fairlane Club Sedan, 1957. Haven't seen one of those in decades
    at car shows.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited January 2017

    Hmmm.
    How about a '50 Dodge Kingsway Suburban?

    Bingo! Gold Star for lostwrench. I believe the Dodge Kingsway Suburban was a Canadian manufacture.

    Cheating is allowed in this case B) It's the reward for sharp eyes.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Nope, 1977 I think was the only year for the Can Am.

    I'm generally not fond of cars that can't do what they look like they can do, but in this case, the car is pretty rare so it deserves a spot on the curiosity shelf if nothing else.

    Some units had the Olds 403 motor installed, for smog reasons.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited January 2017

    Nope, 1977 I think was the only year for the Can Am.

    I'm generally not fond of cars that can't do what they look like they can do, but in this case, the car is pretty rare so it deserves a spot on the curiosity shelf if nothing else.

    Some units had the Olds 403 motor installed, for smog reasons.

    Yup, that's a '77 Pontiac Can-Am (didn't realize that was the only MY).
    The "6.6 Liters " denoted on the hood scoop is 403 CID American but it's curious that it reads
    T/A 6.6, T/A being short for Trans Am (why is that on a Can Am scoop?).

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited January 2017
    You got the 6.6L in 49 states and the 403 Olds in California. There may have been some other "high altitude" deliveries using the 403---not clear on that one.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    59 Mercury convertible, perhaps a Park Lane.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    berri said:

    59 Mercury convertible, perhaps a Park Lane.

    Bingo! Yeah, berri, it's a 1959 Mercury Park Lane. I'd forgotten there was ever a PL 'vert.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Well, the date is easy.

    The Jeep and W123 are probably still on the road somewhere.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,056
    edited January 2017
    I think it's funny that the picture shows GM badge engineering at its finest. Pretty sure the one behind the Jeep is a Malibu and on my phone can't tell if the one in front it the Buick or Olds variant.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478
    I think it is a Buick. And behind the Malibu, an Andre mobile 5th ave.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I agree that the blue car is a Buick Skylark, but can never tell which year on most of those X cars.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    tjc78 said:

    I think it's funny that the picture shows GM badge engineering at its finest. Pretty sure the one behind the Jeep is a Malibu and on my phone can't tell if the one in front it the Buick or Olds variant.

    I don't think that Skylark was a badge-engineered version of the RWD Malibu. The Skylark was based on the FWD Chevy Citation (X-body). The Buick versions of the Malibu were the Century and the Regal (which was the last RWD my Dad owned).

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,690
    In reality the Buick Skylark was a good improvement over the Citation. It had a much nicer interior. We had one that my wife had bought, 1981 I think. No problems. Traded on a Century.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,056
    My mistake on the Buick. I really thought it was the RWD clone of the Malibu. Looking closer you are correct. Man they are similar.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Cute little art deco Studebaker truck, just postwar, I will say 1947 for fun.


  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited January 2017
    A fine guess Mr. Fin, just one year off. It's a '46 and a rare bird.

    Try this one:


  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,129
    1950 Diamond T?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Diamond T. Prewar design, but must be around 1946. Handsome design and no doubt sought after today.



    Try this one


  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,129
    edited January 2017
    My mistake, trusted a link.

    BJ lists that Diamond T as a 1938...
    http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1938-DIAMOND-T-201-PICKUP-80933
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited January 2017
    You know, I'm thinking my link mis-dated the truck...if it was a '46 it would have a kind of metal-spoked wheel I think. I generally wouldn't post pre-war vehicles in this topic, but I'm going to rule it pre-war for now.

    In any event very attractive truck in a "trucky" kind of way.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    100K, sounds right for the time
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, pre-war, painstaking nut and bolt restoration of an incredibly rare truck---someone really wanted it, and they WILL have the only one at the concours, that's for sure.

    Kind of a piece of American history there.

    why, that must make THIS ONE worth at least $35,000 then!




  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Every July the Walcott, Iowa I-80 truck stop has a big truck-a-rama or some such. It includes a big display of antique trucks. It is really kind of interesting if you in that area the week it runs. Otherwise it does have a small old truck museum behind it. The truck stop itself is pretty massive and actually kind of interesting too.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    That Diamond T pickup has a roofline that reminds me of the of, Hudson pickups.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Tatra 613. Although the Czechs were unceremoniously thrown to the Soviet wolves, they still tried to make unique products.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Legend has it that that part of the world was carved up on the back of a napkin at Yalta.

    Skoda is owned by VW now, right?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    And from there was born the idea of "western betrayal". If anything, it proves there is something to the human spirit.

    Yes, Skoda is VW now. Often sharper styling than VW, for a lower price.

    Legend has it that that part of the world was carved up on the back of a napkin at Yalta.

    Skoda is owned by VW now, right?

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    NSU TT/Prinz 1000TT/et al, someone liked the Corvair.


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