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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    That'd be my guess, the bumpers hadn't reached 'battering ram' status in '73.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited April 2018

    Red dashboard? Obviously the car has undergone a color change. Price is bonkers, about double market, so good luck with that. The one to have from that era would be the Rambler Rebel Wagon with the V-8.

    This is a 1959. I didn't make it a mystery car because obviously there's no mystery about it:


    Yep the ad says it was repainted from Salmon/ivory to yellow/ivory which I think is an improvement but then yeah, that dash color is whack.

    Twice market! Y'know at $13K I could definitely want that.

    The mystery about the Rebel wagon would have been MY, I couldn't tell. What's market for that (me like 50s-60s wagons)?

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited April 2018
    Fairly uncommon car but I'd guess for a nice clean driver or "local show" car, perhaps $16K--$18K. The V8s will bring more than that mousy one.

    More likely than not, those cute Pinanfarina cars are hot-rodded.
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Ah well - at least it was a Nash....
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    The deer are admiring a Toyota 2000 GT - about 1966 I think - they made a couple of roadsters too by just cutting off the roof for the James Bond film You Only Live Twice.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    magnette said:

    The deer are admiring a Toyota 2000 GT - about 1966 I think - they made a couple of roadsters too by just cutting off the roof for the James Bond film You Only Live Twice.

    Yup, it's obviously a staged photo for a magazine article. I don't think those are deer, perhaps vicunas or alpacas.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    Look more like small deer
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Small town parade, early 1950s, what year most likely?




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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    I see a 1952 Mercury and 2 or 3 '52 Fords. So I'd go for 1952.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    Oldest car I can positively ID is a 39 Ford at lower left, with window visors. There's another old car across the street, in front of the building with banners on it, a guy leaning on the car, that appears to be a couple years older.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    The Nash almost dead center in the picture is the one I find interesting. Is that a '51 Airflyte?

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    edited April 2018
    I spot a Kaiser Frazer sign on the right side about 5 buildings down.


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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    I see a 54 Ford in the lower left.
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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,598
    texases said:

    Look more like small deer

    You know, I've never been down under, but from the size of the back feet relative to the front I am betting on wallabies (they look too small to be kangaroos)

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    bhill2 said:

    texases said:

    Look more like small deer

    You know, I've never been down under, but from the size of the back feet relative to the front I am betting on wallabies (they look too small to be kangaroos)
    Wallabies? Like this?

    Seriously in the Toyota pic, those don't look like deer to you?
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,952
    I'm going to back him up, and say that until I looked more closely, my first instinct was kangaroo, for the animal in front right. Obviously, that's not it.. it was just the angle.

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    kyfdx said:

    I'm going to back him up, and say that until I looked more closely, my first instinct was kangaroo, for the animal in front right. Obviously, that's not it.. it was just the angle.

    LOL! That picture is like a Rorschach test! Everybody has a favorite story about their psych professor in college. My favorite day in class was when we were all shown the same ink blot graphic on a projector screen (remember projectors?). One by one, he made us tell what we saw-the first impression, at first sight.

    After hearing enough, he held up one hand and looked over the "contestants" and pointed out a girl and told her, "you must see me after class." She took the bait and asked what was wrong. "Nothing I just really want to see you after class!" Good times.


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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    bhill2 said:

    texases said:

    Look more like small deer

    You know, I've never been down under, but from the size of the back feet relative to the front I am betting on wallabies (they look too small to be kangaroos)
    Honestly, my first thought on the animal nearest the camera was kangaroo but then I realized it was just the angle. These could be deer, perhaps a species of small deer native to Japan but they are furrier and smaller than the eastern white tail deer I see semi-regularly.


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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    I see a 1952 Mercury and 2 or 3 '52 Fords. So I'd go for 1952.

    The Merc on the far left has the chromed taillights shaped like clothing irons unique to 1953. The white Ford behind the stake-side truck is also likely a '53 and so is the MoPar next to the dark Ford in the front row. Indications are this was taken in 1953.

    I think the oldest car would be the tall sedan parked next to the '50-'52 Bruick in front of the building on left. Lots of 30s 40s iron in this picture.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    Another oldie is the car directly to the left of the Nash in the middle. Looks like a mid range GM product from around 1937, possibly an Olds.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    kyfdx said:

    I'm going to back him up, and say that until I looked more closely, my first instinct was kangaroo, for the animal in front right. Obviously, that's not it.. it was just the angle.

    How did I end up in the "Mystery Mammal" topic? :p
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    andys120 said:


    I see a 1952 Mercury and 2 or 3 '52 Fords. So I'd go for 1952.

    The Merc on the far left has the chromed taillights shaped like clothing irons unique to 1953. The white Ford behind the stake-side truck is also likely a '53 and so is the MoPar next to the dark Ford in the front row. Indications are this was taken in 1953.

    I think the oldest car would be the tall sedan parked next to the '50-'52 Bruick in front of the building on left. Lots of 30s 40s iron in this picture.
    I do see a 54 Ford in the lower left corner, next to a 40(?) Ford. The picture may have been taken in 53 after the 54's came out.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    tmart said:

    andys120 said:


    I see a 1952 Mercury and 2 or 3 '52 Fords. So I'd go for 1952.

    The Merc on the far left has the chromed taillights shaped like clothing irons unique to 1953. The white Ford behind the stake-side truck is also likely a '53 and so is the MoPar next to the dark Ford in the front row. Indications are this was taken in 1953.

    I think the oldest car would be the tall sedan parked next to the '50-'52 Bruick in front of the building on left. Lots of 30s 40s iron in this picture.
    I do see a 54 Ford in the lower left corner, next to a 40(?) Ford. The picture may have been taken in 53 after the 54's came out.
    You're talking about the Ford facing the camera in the left lower corner. Yes the horizontal grille bar shows slots as seen on the '54 Fords but not on the '53s but it's seen on '52 Fords as well>




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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited April 2018
    tmart said:

    andys120 said:


    I see a 1952 Mercury and 2 or 3 '52 Fords. So I'd go for 1952.

    The Merc on the far left has the chromed taillights shaped like clothing irons unique to 1953. The white Ford behind the stake-side truck is also likely a '53 and so is the MoPar next to the dark Ford in the front row. Indications are this was taken in 1953.

    I think the oldest car would be the tall sedan parked next to the '50-'52 Bruick in front of the building on left. Lots of 30s 40s iron in this picture.
    I do see a 54 Ford in the lower left corner, next to a 40(?) Ford. The picture may have been taken in 53 after the 54's came out.
    The 1952 Fords had a parking light with a 3-prong star, like a mini Mercedes emblem of today. The Ford in the lower left shows that 3-prong parking lamp as does the very plain Ford in the lower right corner of the picture.
    So I called them both 1952 models.

    Is there an identifier on the car sideways in the picture below the staked-sided truck that shows it's a 1953? Both 52 and 53 have the bulges on the angled side trim in front of the rear wheel.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    The Mercury has a crossbar on the trunk ornament. That makes it a '53. The 52 and 53 have the same taillights from what I can find on the net.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Is there an identifier on the car sideways in the picture below the staked-sided truck that shows it's a 1953? Both 52 and 53 have the bulges on the angled side trim in front of the rear wheel.

    Darned good question and now that I look I see that the white car must be a '52 because it doesn't have the sidespear on the rear fender clearly visible on '53s>


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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,598

    kyfdx said:

    I'm going to back him up, and say that until I looked more closely, my first instinct was kangaroo, for the animal in front right. Obviously, that's not it.. it was just the angle.

    How did I end up in the "Mystery Mammal" topic? :p
    Either we are very good at free-associating or are very bad at staying focussed. It wasn't for nothing, however. I for one learned that my inability to judge angles may explain why I never took good photos.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    andys120 said:

    Is there an identifier on the car sideways in the picture below the staked-sided truck that shows it's a 1953? Both 52 and 53 have the bulges on the angled side trim in front of the rear wheel.

    Darned good question and now that I look I see that the white car must be a '52 because it doesn't have the sidespear on the rear fender clearly visible on '53s>


    The Mainline trim line didn't have the side spear, IIRC, but the Crestline and Customline did.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,388
    VW squareback. Was that called the type 3? No clue on year. Later 60s someplace. 67?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,495
    edited April 2018
    stickguy said:

    VW squareback. Was that called the type 3? No clue on year. Later 60s someplace. 67?

    I think that is a Type 3.

    My folks owned a '67. Bought new. Beige. Took a family vacation in it in the summer of 1971. Southern California to Upstate New York to see the grandparents. The back seat got folded down and I rode with the luggage. My sister (4 at the time), was on my mom's lap.

    I still remember the license plate number of that car - VVG 784

    Sadly, it suffered a catastrophic engine failure in the summer of 1973 and we bought the Toyota Corona.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,388
    edited April 2018
    Ford tàunus?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Michaell said:

    stickguy said:

    VW squareback. Was that called the type 3? No clue on year. Later 60s someplace. 67?

    I think that is a Type 3.

    My folks owned a '67. Bought new. Beige. Took a family vacation in it in the summer of 1971. Southern California to Upstate New York to see the grandparents. The back seat got folded down and I rode with the luggage. My sister (4 at the time), was on my mom's lap.

    I still remember the license plate number of that car - VVG 784

    Sadly, it suffered a catastrophic engine failure in the summer of 1973 and we bought the Toyota Corona.
    Yup, that is a 1972 Volkswagen Type 3 sold in the US as a VW "Squareback".

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    stickguy said:

    Ford tàunus?

    No but you're definitely sniffing in the right direction. That was a good guess.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    Ford Consul Capri, I see it as a Europeanized Starliner. Export model on period Dutch plates.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Bingo---a 1963 Ford Capri, yes.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670


    My first though was (British) Ford Consul Capri ca. 1962 but then I noticed the LHD. The German Ford equivalent (I couldn't find one)?

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    My father actually bought that car's cousin new in 1962. I have only a vague memory of it as he did not keep it long. His was turquoise and white but the bodystyle was like this:




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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    wow. someone did a nice job with the coupe, then they farmed out the sedan version to a high school shop teacher. Or Homer Simpson.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    qbrozen said:

    wow. someone did a nice job with the coupe, then they farmed out the sedan version to a high school shop teacher. Or Homer Simpson.

    It thought the opposite neither is great looking but the Capri coupe is a badly rendered shrunken 1960 US Ford Starliner>




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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    I like the greenhouse on the shrunken version. Kind of reminds me a bit of a DB4.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    Coupe or sedan, nothing can redeem that front end. Reminds me of Alfred E. Newman.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    There's a huge dose of 60 Ford in the Consul/Capri of 1961-63:

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    I don't mind the hardtop - the others are a little odd due to the reverse C-pillar, which is always difficult to get right. An actual 60 Ford would have been inconvenient in much of the UK, to say the least - just too wide.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    fintail said:

    There's a huge dose of 60 Ford in the Consul/Capri of 1961-63:

    An actual 60 Ford would have been inconvenient in much of the UK, to say the least - just too wide.

    Race driver Jim Clark had a 1967 Galaxie 7 Litre IIRC.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    ab348 said:
    Coupe or sedan, nothing can redeem that front end. Reminds me of Alfred E. Newman.
    Yeah, its a bit rough. Single headlights would be a massive improvement.

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    edited April 2018
    1966 Ford Fairlane.

    I was at the NY Auto Show last week and would have gladly taken home any of the Maseratis.
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