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Lexus ES 350



  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    Of course. It is just a rendering, not a photo of a real car.
    I'm sure the real car will not be that ugly.
  • bluesman3bluesman3 Posts: 202
    Unfortunately it is a digital representation. This was straight from Mag-X in Japan and I understand they're usually spot on when it comes to future models. This certainly has the L-finesse lines we're seeing on the IS and GS.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    I have doubts that is a real car and even if it is, there are many Japanese-market cars roughly the size of an ES that it could be. It could easily be an image of some other car (assuming it is anything other than a total fake).
  • bluesman3bluesman3 Posts: 202
    It's not a fake, there is a caption at the bottom in Japanese that discusses production dates and design of the ES. This may not be the final form but it's probably very close.

    I don't know why I'm defending this photo, or why few believe it's authenticity......

    BTW, the color codes for the 2007 ES were posted on another site, which I can't link or mention since the Edmunds Net Nazis will slap my wrists.

    Snaps to Marshallp7 for posting this info.

    The 2007 ES350 will be realeased in March, the color choices are:
    062-Crystal White (same color as on 05-06)
    1G0-Black Pearl (on 06 IS and 06 SC)
    1G1-Tungsten Pearl (on 06 IS)
    202-Black Onyx (same as on 05-06)
    3R5-Royal Ruby Metallic (Hmmmmmm, maybe a Maroon/Burgandy)
    3R4-Moon Shell Mica (probably like Alabaster os Glacier Frost)
    4T0-Amber Pearl (probably a brown)
    4T1-Golden A;mond Metallic (probably a gold)
    8P8-Blue Onyx Pearl (same as on 05-06)
    778-Aquamarine Pearl (Probaly a green)

    The interior choices are
    Light Gray

    All three interiors will have the Red Walnut (NO MORE ORANGE WOOD)
  • most people dont believe that photo *cough* becasue it doesnt really match the spy shots of the '07 Camry. Also those rear lights look to be on a Lexus...even with LF style.

    PS: that picture is deffinately from microsoft paint
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    That is definately not the 2007 Lexus ES. The rear doesn't flow with the new design direction of Lexus products. The rear looks nothing like the 2006 IS or 2006 GS. That and I don't think anyone can design a rear end that ugly!
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    that led me to believe it was a photoshop was that the backend was too wild for a car that's marketed towards Affluent Baby Boomers trading in Toyota Camrys...
  • jmnycjmnyc Posts: 6
    I'm not sure, but isn't the whole point that lexus cars WON'T look anything like their toyota counterparts? Besides, just because the car shares basic platform with the camry, don't you think Lexus is going to have to make it so dramatically different from the camry so it will sell in japan as a lexus model? It seems like people are forgetting this simple point.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    the car in the picture looks too wild to be a Lexus ES. The ES has always been a conservatively styled car that's designed to appeal to the masses of affluent baby boomers.
  • jmnycjmnyc Posts: 6
    They're overstyling the tail lights like they overstyled the headlights of the current model.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    THe 2007 ES will get styling features from the new Lexus GS and upcoming IS. We should see very similar tailights, grille, as well as trunklid treatments. The picture posted earlier looks nothing like either the GS or IS. Lexus has made in abundantly clear there will be a STRONG family resemblance in future models, that started with the GS then the IS, next is the ES.
  • bluesman3bluesman3 Posts: 202
    OK, you guys may have seen these images but I'll post them anyway. I don't believe the one that says it's the new LS 420, I think it's too small, it looks more like the size of an ES. A lexus salesperson on another website said that the new ES would be completely changed except for the head lights. This one has the styling of the IS and GS that maxhonda99 spoke of, just imagine ES headlights.
    The IS as shown came out before the new IS debut, which lends some credence to this image. (if somebody posts that he doesn't believe this is the IS I give's close to the final form OK)

    The other one is a drawing of a potentially new LS 500 and that one I can see for it's size and atributes.

    Feel free to comment, obfuscate or otherwise postulate on these as before.
  • I think that first pic could be the is gt model ;)
  • bluesman3bluesman3 Posts: 202
    Edmunds has some photos up now of what they claim to be the new ES. Several of us on another unamed forum have concluded that these photos are only another 07' Camry under testing and not the 07' ES. leftsidenav..2.Lexus*#

    The shape of the car however will be the same. Compare the shape of the windows and the roof line to the first picture I posted, the one that everyone said was a fake.....Pay close attention to the rear door window and the back glass.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    they do look alike.

    Guess we'll never know if its the real thing until Lexus puts out a press release.
  • bluesman3bluesman3 Posts: 202
    The doors are the same shape too.......
  • dc661dc661 Posts: 71
    new camry will use smaller 3.3L version of the avalon engine according to automotive news
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    What would be the hp on the new engine? I always thought the Lexus ES is under-powered. :cry:
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836
    I am guessing somewhere between 260 and 280 Hp. Should be more than enough. I don't think Lexus is going to tune this engine to produce 300+ HP like the new IS350.
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    The ES is a cruiser. 300+ horsepower would be overkill. It will probably have 280 like in the Avalon.

    If the Camry will use a 3.3L based off of the 3.5 in the Avalon, I wouldn't be surprised to see the ES have the full-blown 3.5L.
  • bluesman3bluesman3 Posts: 202
    Ah, but you're forgetting the new sporty direction of Lexus. Remember, they're going after BMW........ ;)
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    No they are not going after BMW with the ES. The IS and maybe the GS is more in that direction. The ES is for people who want something much more plush, smooth and quiet than a BMW. Not to do stop-light drag races or slalom courses.
  • bluesman3bluesman3 Posts: 202
    They're going after BMW........The whole line up.

    "Lexus will replace every sedan in its lineup by fall 2006 as it battles to close the gap in car sales with BMW and Mercedes."

    "Denny Clements, general manager of Lexus Division, says the time is right for Toyota's premium brand to win over BMW loyalists disaffected by that brand's move toward polarizing design and complicated electronic controls."

    "The current Lexus sedans are aging. Meanwhile, the competition has pounced with a series of new cars, including the BMW 5 and 6 series, Mercedes E class, Infiniti G35, Jaguar XJ and Acura TL."

    I can't name the source cause' sensorship is alive around here.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    They are trying to "close the gap in car sales," not try make every car like a BMW. Some people choose Lexus over BMW because Lexus has the driving feel, interior amenities and ride they prefer.

    It says BMW and Mercedes anyway. Mercedes is usually more sedate.
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    I agree, but I think they are all going after each other, BMW, Lexus, MB, Acura, Audi, Infiniti etc. :P
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    They are, and Caddy is chasing its own tail :P
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    isn't chasing much of anything.
    Maybe those buyers who are excited at getting a Town Car at the Employee price.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    I saw a Lincoln LS with MSRP stickered at $27K.
    Cheap, but it looked no nicer than what you would get if you spent $27K on a loaded Camry V6.
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    The Camry, and certainly the ES, are far superior cars in many respects, expecially reliability.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I would also think that my Infiniti I35 (which was bought at far less than $27K) is a superior car to the Lincoln LS.

    Maybe not far superior, but at least I think its a better value.

    Anyways, back to the ES.
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